JJ SMITH 10 DAY GREEN SMOOTHIE CLEANSE
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Tacklewasher wrote: »
But never cleanse free.cerise_noir wrote: »And yet, mfp is......free.
And the New Year is coming.
Yeah, I'm looking forward to that. Have not been here that long so I can only imagine what it must be like. Might have to take a bit of a break so my head doesn't explode.
I usually leave the boards around February because of the mass redundancy of crash diet, juicing, and the start of the "I need to lose 50 pounds by June because I bought a wedding dress two sizes too small" threads. I come back just in time for the "how to manage the holidays" threads.
I suspect half of those posts are shills but I'm just an experienced cynic whose seen this all before so don't mind me.
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tammys_130 wrote: »Funny because I thought forums were for sharing of information.
Yes, it's called "sharing" meaning you can speak and others can disagree and that's called a "debate", "sharing", "exchange" or whatever else, but the minute you start attacking everyone else you have declared that you are closed minded and won't be swayed. Either way most of us are just ignoring you. Also, if you decide to attack everyone else as closed minded etc don't get excited when people play back at you and then claim you are being attacked. Provocative behavior tends to provoke.6 -
crzycatlady1 wrote: »CattOfTheGarage wrote: »tammys_130 wrote: »Funny because I thought forums were for sharing of information... It is my personal experience only and solely my opinions.
So you shared some information and some opinions. Others, in return, shared some information and gave their opinions. The majority of opinions disagreed with yours, and the information presented a lot of very good reasons to why the information you shared was incorrect.
I don't see the problem. This seems like a productive conversation to me. What sort of response would you have found acceptable? Nothing short of unquestioning agreement? That's not information sharing and it's not supportive. If I posted incorrect information, I would want to be told - and if I posted opinions, I would expect others to respond honestly with their own, not lie about their real opinion in order to flatter me. Disagreement is not attack.
Tammy has left the building
I was curious to know if she was one of Smith's 'GSC Leaders', but ah well, hope she does have continued success in what she does. And if she doesn't-she knows where to find us know it alls 
She's an obvious shill or true believer, but it's so hard to tell the difference between them.2 -
vetsnatural wrote: »I am currently on day 7 of the JJ Smith 10 day cleanse I can say that it has gotten me out of my Sugar/bread/meat cravings and I feel good. I am doing the full cleanse for 10 days then going to do the modified cleanse which is two smoothies and snacks and 1 clean meal. I think I have gotten control of my eating habits and I am ready to continue this lifestyle change of eating cleaner and staying away from foods that are unhealthy or at least being able to control my eating habits. I also plan on staying with a paleo with minimal dairy low carb clean eating lifestyle. Am I trying to do to much too soon?
I think I understand what you mean when you say "cleanse" your not saying detoxing, the "cleanse" is more "mindful" and it is keeping you away from the foods you crave, its a healthier option that will assist in breaking of a habit of unhealthy food. I say good for you. You know yourself better than anyone and what will work for you. Good luck, I too am trying down thirty something lbs now. Still have a way to go.0 -
vetsnatural wrote: »I am currently on day 7 of the JJ Smith 10 day cleanse I can say that it has gotten me out of my Sugar/bread/meat cravings and I feel good. I am doing the full cleanse for 10 days then going to do the modified cleanse which is two smoothies and snacks and 1 clean meal. I think I have gotten control of my eating habits and I am ready to continue this lifestyle change of eating cleaner and staying away from foods that are unhealthy or at least being able to control my eating habits. I also plan on staying with a paleo with minimal dairy low carb clean eating lifestyle. Am I trying to do to much too soon?
I think I understand what you mean when you say "cleanse" your not saying detoxing, the "cleanse" is more "mindful" and it is keeping you away from the foods you crave, its a healthier option that will assist in breaking of a habit of unhealthy food. I say good for you. You know yourself better than anyone and what will work for you. Good luck, I too am trying down thirty something lbs now. Still have a way to go.
The best way to be "mindful" in a meaningful and long-term way is to really get to know your nutritional needs and your habits that have caused you to become overweight and then seek to correct them. These cleanse/detox/fat melt or whatever other buzzword that gets slapped on them do not address the underlying issues that you mention so really don't perform any useful function if that's what you are after.
I wish you success on your weight loss, but more than that I wish you success in finding out what it is you need to in order to maintain that weight loss once you get there. Good luck.5 -
vetsnatural wrote: »I am currently on day 7 of the JJ Smith 10 day cleanse I can say that it has gotten me out of my Sugar/bread/meat cravings and I feel good. I am doing the full cleanse for 10 days then going to do the modified cleanse which is two smoothies and snacks and 1 clean meal. I think I have gotten control of my eating habits and I am ready to continue this lifestyle change of eating cleaner and staying away from foods that are unhealthy or at least being able to control my eating habits. I also plan on staying with a paleo with minimal dairy low carb clean eating lifestyle. Am I trying to do to much too soon?
I think I understand what you mean when you say "cleanse" your not saying detoxing, the "cleanse" is more "mindful" and it is keeping you away from the foods you crave, its a healthier option that will assist in breaking of a habit of unhealthy food. I say good for you. You know yourself better than anyone and what will work for you. Good luck, I too am trying down thirty something lbs now. Still have a way to go.
See, I choose not to demonize food - good, bad, healthy, unhealthy. Food is just food. If I stay within my caloric allotment and meet my macros each day, what I ate to achieve that is of little significance. If I choose to occasionally blow the bank on a pizza or a burger and fries, all it means is that I'll have to scale back in other areas that day.
For me, thinking of any food as bad or forbidden is a sure-fire way to make me want it all the more. So I include treats in my plan every day, which helps me adhere to my goals without cravings or binging.
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vetsnatural wrote: »I am currently on day 7 of the JJ Smith 10 day cleanse I can say that it has gotten me out of my Sugar/bread/meat cravings and I feel good. I am doing the full cleanse for 10 days then going to do the modified cleanse which is two smoothies and snacks and 1 clean meal. I think I have gotten control of my eating habits and I am ready to continue this lifestyle change of eating cleaner and staying away from foods that are unhealthy or at least being able to control my eating habits. I also plan on staying with a paleo with minimal dairy low carb clean eating lifestyle. Am I trying to do to much too soon?
I think I understand what you mean when you say "cleanse" your not saying detoxing, the "cleanse" is more "mindful" and it is keeping you away from the foods you crave, its a healthier option that will assist in breaking of a habit of unhealthy food. I say good for you. You know yourself better than anyone and what will work for you. Good luck, I too am trying down thirty something lbs now. Still have a way to go.
There is no unhealthy food, only unhealthy diets and unhealthy eating habits...6 -
Carlos_421 wrote: »tammys_130 wrote: »Not even worth my responses either. Bunch of closed minded know it alls who apparently must have degrees in nutrition themselves or be dietitians, etc... Guess one is not allowed to express their opinion or personal experiences on here without being critiqued by strong minded individuals who can't at least have replies that are not sarcastic or judgmental.
Have a great day and I wish for positive vibes to come your way. How you treat others is a reflection of you and will be your kharma. Thank you all for making me feel so horrible about posting on here.
I don't believe in karma....
...or detox smoothies.
The concept of karma has really been twisted into something vengeful, which ironically would bring bad karma to the person wishing bad karma on the person who wronged them. I'll leave it at that, because I could angry rant about it for a while. Plus it's an unneeded tangent that would add nothing to the topic at hand.5 -
nutmegoreo wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »tammys_130 wrote: »Not even worth my responses either. Bunch of closed minded know it alls who apparently must have degrees in nutrition themselves or be dietitians, etc... Guess one is not allowed to express their opinion or personal experiences on here without being critiqued by strong minded individuals who can't at least have replies that are not sarcastic or judgmental.
Have a great day and I wish for positive vibes to come your way. How you treat others is a reflection of you and will be your kharma. Thank you all for making me feel so horrible about posting on here.
I don't believe in karma....
...or detox smoothies.
The concept of karma has really been twisted into something vengeful, which ironically would bring bad karma to the person wishing bad karma on the person who wronged them. I'll leave it at that, because I could angry rant about it for a while. Plus it's an unneeded tangent that would add nothing to the topic at hand.
And would only bring bad karma back to you. Ain't nobody got time fo' dat! 2 -
nutmegoreo wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »tammys_130 wrote: »Not even worth my responses either. Bunch of closed minded know it alls who apparently must have degrees in nutrition themselves or be dietitians, etc... Guess one is not allowed to express their opinion or personal experiences on here without being critiqued by strong minded individuals who can't at least have replies that are not sarcastic or judgmental.
Have a great day and I wish for positive vibes to come your way. How you treat others is a reflection of you and will be your kharma. Thank you all for making me feel so horrible about posting on here.
I don't believe in karma....
...or detox smoothies.
The concept of karma has really been twisted into something vengeful, which ironically would bring bad karma to the person wishing bad karma on the person who wronged them. I'll leave it at that, because I could angry rant about it for a while. Plus it's an unneeded tangent that would add nothing to the topic at hand.
Whew, that was close!3 -
snickerscharlie wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »tammys_130 wrote: »Not even worth my responses either. Bunch of closed minded know it alls who apparently must have degrees in nutrition themselves or be dietitians, etc... Guess one is not allowed to express their opinion or personal experiences on here without being critiqued by strong minded individuals who can't at least have replies that are not sarcastic or judgmental.
Have a great day and I wish for positive vibes to come your way. How you treat others is a reflection of you and will be your kharma. Thank you all for making me feel so horrible about posting on here.
I don't believe in karma....
...or detox smoothies.
The concept of karma has really been twisted into something vengeful, which ironically would bring bad karma to the person wishing bad karma on the person who wronged them. I'll leave it at that, because I could angry rant about it for a while. Plus it's an unneeded tangent that would add nothing to the topic at hand.
And would only bring bad karma back to you. Ain't nobody got time fo' dat!
Right?!?1 -
tammys_130 wrote: »
Just my opinion but think some of you are being a bit too critical. Just because something isn't for you doesn't mean it isn't great for someone else. I came across JJ Smiths book when searching for Green Smoothie recipes, as I wanted to incorporate more of these into my diet. I very loosely followed the plan along with high protein meals as well as shakes (since I drink protein shakes after workouts). She doesn't say you have to strictly do the cleanse and gives information how to modify. The author is a certified nutritionist and explains in great detail the importance of greens in your diet as well as the elimination of foods out of your system. This book is about a lifestyle change, which is key to any success to weight loss and good health.
You do realize that becoming a "certified nutritionist" is like getting a mail-order university degree from "prestigious non-accredited" universities. There are a billion scammers out there running on-line certifications that are completely meaningless. If the author were a Registered Dietician they would enjoy some credibility (but even then there are RDs that promote pseudoscience like cleanses and detoxes)6 -
nutmegoreo wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »tammys_130 wrote: »Not even worth my responses either. Bunch of closed minded know it alls who apparently must have degrees in nutrition themselves or be dietitians, etc... Guess one is not allowed to express their opinion or personal experiences on here without being critiqued by strong minded individuals who can't at least have replies that are not sarcastic or judgmental.
Have a great day and I wish for positive vibes to come your way. How you treat others is a reflection of you and will be your kharma. Thank you all for making me feel so horrible about posting on here.
I don't believe in karma....
...or detox smoothies.
The concept of karma has really been twisted into something vengeful, which ironically would bring bad karma to the person wishing bad karma on the person who wronged them. I'll leave it at that, because I could angry rant about it for a while. Plus it's an unneeded tangent that would add nothing to the topic at hand.
Whew, that was close!
I know! Crisis narrowly averted.1 -
I have learned so much from reading these types of threads. I was one who bought into starvation mode and cleaning toxins out of your body. But after I read some of the responses, albeit some were sarcastic, when you think about it, it's common sense. For example, toxins that's why you have a liver and kidney. When I thought about it I was like "Hmm yeah that's true!!" LOL
So thank you guys because it saved me from a lot of unnecessary whohah!7 -
vetsnatural wrote: »I am currently on day 7 of the JJ Smith 10 day cleanse I can say that it has gotten me out of my Sugar/bread/meat cravings and I feel good. I am doing the full cleanse for 10 days then going to do the modified cleanse which is two smoothies and snacks and 1 clean meal. I think I have gotten control of my eating habits and I am ready to continue this lifestyle change of eating cleaner and staying away from foods that are unhealthy or at least being able to control my eating habits. I also plan on staying with a paleo with minimal dairy low carb clean eating lifestyle. Am I trying to do to much too soon?
I think I understand what you mean when you say "cleanse" your not saying detoxing, the "cleanse" is more "mindful" and it is keeping you away from the foods you crave, its a healthier option that will assist in breaking of a habit of unhealthy food. I say good for you. You know yourself better than anyone and what will work for you. Good luck, I too am trying down thirty something lbs now. Still have a way to go.
"Cleanse" means to make clean or to remove as if by cleaning. Are you suggesting that OP did not mean what he said, but that he instead meant to use a different word (such as mindful, which does not mean the same thing as "cleanse" at all)?
I am a fan of mindful eating, as well as mindfulness in some other contexts, but don't see what it has to do with "cleansing" or green smoothie diet plans, and another poster helpfully provided information from the book in question and, sadly, it does seem to be about "cleansing" and "detox," not mindful eating.
As for breaking a habit of eating unhealthy food, you mean eating a healthy diet? That involves more than eating some green smoothies and generally is not going to mean a diet based on green smoothies (although I am a fan of smoothies as noted above).1 -
BrianSharpe wrote: »tammys_130 wrote: »
Just my opinion but think some of you are being a bit too critical. Just because something isn't for you doesn't mean it isn't great for someone else. I came across JJ Smiths book when searching for Green Smoothie recipes, as I wanted to incorporate more of these into my diet. I very loosely followed the plan along with high protein meals as well as shakes (since I drink protein shakes after workouts). She doesn't say you have to strictly do the cleanse and gives information how to modify. The author is a certified nutritionist and explains in great detail the importance of greens in your diet as well as the elimination of foods out of your system. This book is about a lifestyle change, which is key to any success to weight loss and good health.
You do realize that becoming a "certified nutritionist" is like getting a mail-order university degree from "prestigious non-accredited" universities. There are a billion scammers out there running on-line certifications that are completely meaningless. If the author were a Registered Dietician they would enjoy some credibility (but even then there are RDs that promote pseudoscience like cleanses and detoxes)
I was talking to a trainer at my gym and she said she was going to school to take nutrition and I commented on how it was a tough course with biology, biochem, organic chem, etc and she said that she was talking a one year cert in "holistic nutrition", whatever that means, and that it didn't have "those" courses but it was hard because you had to do "a bunch of cases".
I had to turn my head but I'm sure she heard my eyes roll.
ETA: for comparison here is the nutrition and dietetics course from my alma mater that qualifies for an RD certification http://www.westerncalendar.uwo.ca/2015/pg1479.html
I also found the place where she is getting her training and it's full of conspiracy theories. Worse than I thought.
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I have learned so much from reading these types of threads. I was one who bought into starvation mode and cleaning toxins out of your body. But after I read some of the responses, albeit some were sarcastic, when you think about it, it's common sense. For example, toxins that's why you have a liver and kidney. When I thought about it I was like "Hmm yeah that's true!!" LOL
So thank you guys because it saved me from a lot of unnecessary whohah!
Hopefully it saved you both time and money as well as frustration! 2 -
tammys_130 wrote: »I continue to be amazed by your comments even after the moderators post. I don't appreciate being attacked like I personally wrote the book. If any of you actually took the time to read my posts you would see that I did NOT do a cleanse and don't promote cleansing or juicing or fads, etc... For the 4th time, I utilized information from her book to incorporate more greens (in the form of smoothies) in my diet as well as learning about ways to remove food/waste from my body. I consult with my doctor and a nutritionist and both were supportive of my dietary changes, including the smoothies. So stop insinuating things I never said (like I did a cleanse or drink a green smoothie just to release toxins, etc...) and take the time to stop being so critical and read what I actually write. I used the book as a tool, not a sole tool but one of many. You act like your opinions are the only ones that matter.
If your goal is to discourage people from expressing themselves on this forum then you have succeeded in doing so with me. It's not simply a person being sensitive but a matter of respect. Now I am left with a very negative feeling about this app and definitely do not like the so called "community" atmosphere some of you create. I may look to another app to track my food and fitness in because the atmosphere here is too disrespectful and critical.
I really wish some of you would consider there is an actual person behind every post. It truly is sad people treat others this way as if they are right about everything and don't even bother to read what I had said to be a personal experience.
I'm completely done with wasting my time on responding anymore. Some of you have nothing better to do than say thing I didn't say, assume things I didn't do and drill me like I authored the book. So please get off my case and find something better to do with your time. You have done enough damage to me.
A few of the posters have been rude with you, and that's not called for.
BUT.
You are being too defensive; take a step back, breathe, and think about why you're here. You don't have to agree with everyone, and they don't have to agree with you. If something works for you, keep doing it. If you find it's not working anymore, adjust.
And lastly:
No one wants to damage you!!! We're all here for similar reasons, and almost all the members will try their best to help you to be successful. Please don't give up! xo1 -
Wheelhouse15 wrote: »I have learned so much from reading these types of threads. I was one who bought into starvation mode and cleaning toxins out of your body. But after I read some of the responses, albeit some were sarcastic, when you think about it, it's common sense. For example, toxins that's why you have a liver and kidney. When I thought about it I was like "Hmm yeah that's true!!" LOL
So thank you guys because it saved me from a lot of unnecessary whohah!
Hopefully it saved you both time and money as well as frustration!
Yes it did!0
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