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nutmegoreo wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »Chilli7777 wrote: »Any type of soda, sugar free or otherwise, expands the tummy and will make you feel hungry. Diet coke is so full of chemicals. It wont hinder your weight loss if you dont eat extra food, but it is bad for youe overall health in so many othet ways. Personally I dont touch it.
The what now? How does that happen?
I felt hungry when I started drinking Diet Dr Pepper this evening. But that was probably because I started drinking it before dinner was ready.
Diet Dr Pepper is evil and I'm blaming you for the bottle of it sitting in my fridge.
I forgot...tonight is Diet Dr Pepper Cherry. So now you have to change.
Mmmmm I luvs me some cherry0 -
nutmegoreo wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »Chilli7777 wrote: »Any type of soda, I sugar free or otherwise, expands the tummy and will make you feel hungry. Diet coke is so full of chemicals. It wont hinder your weight loss if you dont eat extra food, but it is bad for youe overall health in so many othet ways. Personally I dont touch it.
The what now? How does that happen?
I felt hungry when I started drinking Diet Dr Pepper this evening. But that was probably because I started drinking it before dinner was ready.
Diet Dr Pepper is evil and I'm blaming you for the bottle of it sitting in my fridge.
I forgot...tonight is Diet Dr Pepper Cherry. So now you have to change.
I was trying to find some Diet Cherry Cola, but alas, we seem to be lacking in the options up here in the frozen north.nutmegoreo wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »Chilli7777 wrote: »Any type of soda, sugar free or otherwise, expands the tummy and will make you feel hungry. Diet coke is so full of chemicals. It wont hinder your weight loss if you dont eat extra food, but it is bad for youe overall health in so many othet ways. Personally I dont touch it.
The what now? How does that happen?
I felt hungry when I started drinking Diet Dr Pepper this evening. But that was probably because I started drinking it before dinner was ready.
Diet Dr Pepper is evil and I'm blaming you for the bottle of it sitting in my fridge.
Diet Dr Pepper is awesomeness though
Which is exactly why it's evil. :grumble:
Lol it lures you in with its yumminess and then BOOM!!! you're hooked for life, ending up on the corner in a cardboard box begging for change to buy a liter....at least that's what I've heard
Meh, I already do those things for chocolate, I could raise my prices enough to cover Diet Dr Pepper.3 -
nutmegoreo wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »Chilli7777 wrote: »Any type of soda, I sugar free or otherwise, expands the tummy and will make you feel hungry. Diet coke is so full of chemicals. It wont hinder your weight loss if you dont eat extra food, but it is bad for youe overall health in so many othet ways. Personally I dont touch it.
The what now? How does that happen?
I felt hungry when I started drinking Diet Dr Pepper this evening. But that was probably because I started drinking it before dinner was ready.
Diet Dr Pepper is evil and I'm blaming you for the bottle of it sitting in my fridge.
I forgot...tonight is Diet Dr Pepper Cherry. So now you have to change.
I was trying to find some Diet Cherry Cola, but alas, we seem to be lacking in the options up here in the frozen north.nutmegoreo wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »Chilli7777 wrote: »Any type of soda, sugar free or otherwise, expands the tummy and will make you feel hungry. Diet coke is so full of chemicals. It wont hinder your weight loss if you dont eat extra food, but it is bad for youe overall health in so many othet ways. Personally I dont touch it.
The what now? How does that happen?
I felt hungry when I started drinking Diet Dr Pepper this evening. But that was probably because I started drinking it before dinner was ready.
Diet Dr Pepper is evil and I'm blaming you for the bottle of it sitting in my fridge.
Diet Dr Pepper is awesomeness though
Which is exactly why it's evil. :grumble:
Lol it lures you in with its yumminess and then BOOM!!! you're hooked for life, ending up on the corner in a cardboard box begging for change to buy a liter....at least that's what I've heard
Meh, I already do those things for chocolate, I could raise my prices enough to cover Diet Dr Pepper.
Lmao you could. ...or set up a Go Fund Me for your soda habit
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Its not the diet soda thats the issue, it's the rest of the items (calories) that make the difference. I suspect anyone getting "hungry" from diet soda may be suffering from suggestibility, but that's just a guess.
I dont prefer the taste of anything with aspartame (aftertaste-yuck!) but I often like the ones with the sucralose (the new aspartame free diet pepsi is actually not bad!) and I use a stevia based packet in various stuff at home.
However, I am convinced that Diet Dr Pepper is indeed the debil.
eta: because DDP is really, really nasty ...1 -
ConnieT1030 wrote: »Its not the diet soda thats the issue, it's the rest of the items (calories) that make the difference. I suspect anyone getting "hungry" from diet soda may be suffering from suggestibility, but that's just a guess.
I dont prefer the taste of anything with aspartame (aftertaste-yuck!) but I often like the ones with the sucralose (the new aspartame free diet pepsi is actually not bad!) and I use a stevia based packet in various stuff at home.
However, I am convinced that Diet Dr Pepper is indeed the debil.
eta: because DDP is really, really nasty ...
no...never is it really really nasty....but...more for me 1 -
nutmegoreo wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »Chilli7777 wrote: »Any type of soda, I sugar free or otherwise, expands the tummy and will make you feel hungry. Diet coke is so full of chemicals. It wont hinder your weight loss if you dont eat extra food, but it is bad for youe overall health in so many othet ways. Personally I dont touch it.
The what now? How does that happen?
I felt hungry when I started drinking Diet Dr Pepper this evening. But that was probably because I started drinking it before dinner was ready.
Diet Dr Pepper is evil and I'm blaming you for the bottle of it sitting in my fridge.
I forgot...tonight is Diet Dr Pepper Cherry. So now you have to change.
I was trying to find some Diet Cherry Cola, but alas, we seem to be lacking in the options up here in the frozen north.nutmegoreo wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »Chilli7777 wrote: »Any type of soda, sugar free or otherwise, expands the tummy and will make you feel hungry. Diet coke is so full of chemicals. It wont hinder your weight loss if you dont eat extra food, but it is bad for youe overall health in so many othet ways. Personally I dont touch it.
The what now? How does that happen?
I felt hungry when I started drinking Diet Dr Pepper this evening. But that was probably because I started drinking it before dinner was ready.
Diet Dr Pepper is evil and I'm blaming you for the bottle of it sitting in my fridge.
Diet Dr Pepper is awesomeness though
Which is exactly why it's evil. :grumble:
Lol it lures you in with its yumminess and then BOOM!!! you're hooked for life, ending up on the corner in a cardboard box begging for change to buy a liter....at least that's what I've heard
Meh, I already do those things for chocolate, I could raise my prices enough to cover Diet Dr Pepper.
More proof that Canada isn't a real place 5 -
nutmegoreo wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »Chilli7777 wrote: »Any type of soda, I sugar free or otherwise, expands the tummy and will make you feel hungry. Diet coke is so full of chemicals. It wont hinder your weight loss if you dont eat extra food, but it is bad for youe overall health in so many othet ways. Personally I dont touch it.
The what now? How does that happen?
I felt hungry when I started drinking Diet Dr Pepper this evening. But that was probably because I started drinking it before dinner was ready.
Diet Dr Pepper is evil and I'm blaming you for the bottle of it sitting in my fridge.
I forgot...tonight is Diet Dr Pepper Cherry. So now you have to change.
I was trying to find some Diet Cherry Cola, but alas, we seem to be lacking in the options up here in the frozen north.nutmegoreo wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »Chilli7777 wrote: »Any type of soda, sugar free or otherwise, expands the tummy and will make you feel hungry. Diet coke is so full of chemicals. It wont hinder your weight loss if you dont eat extra food, but it is bad for youe overall health in so many othet ways. Personally I dont touch it.
The what now? How does that happen?
I felt hungry when I started drinking Diet Dr Pepper this evening. But that was probably because I started drinking it before dinner was ready.
Diet Dr Pepper is evil and I'm blaming you for the bottle of it sitting in my fridge.
Diet Dr Pepper is awesomeness though
Which is exactly why it's evil. :grumble:
Lol it lures you in with its yumminess and then BOOM!!! you're hooked for life, ending up on the corner in a cardboard box begging for change to buy a liter....at least that's what I've heard
Meh, I already do those things for chocolate, I could raise my prices enough to cover Diet Dr Pepper.
More proof that Canada isn't a real place
Feels pretty real when I see how much is taken for taxes...nutmegoreo wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »Chilli7777 wrote: »Any type of soda, I sugar free or otherwise, expands the tummy and will make you feel hungry. Diet coke is so full of chemicals. It wont hinder your weight loss if you dont eat extra food, but it is bad for youe overall health in so many othet ways. Personally I dont touch it.
The what now? How does that happen?
I felt hungry when I started drinking Diet Dr Pepper this evening. But that was probably because I started drinking it before dinner was ready.
Diet Dr Pepper is evil and I'm blaming you for the bottle of it sitting in my fridge.
I forgot...tonight is Diet Dr Pepper Cherry. So now you have to change.
I was trying to find some Diet Cherry Cola, but alas, we seem to be lacking in the options up here in the frozen north.nutmegoreo wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »Chilli7777 wrote: »Any type of soda, sugar free or otherwise, expands the tummy and will make you feel hungry. Diet coke is so full of chemicals. It wont hinder your weight loss if you dont eat extra food, but it is bad for youe overall health in so many othet ways. Personally I dont touch it.
The what now? How does that happen?
I felt hungry when I started drinking Diet Dr Pepper this evening. But that was probably because I started drinking it before dinner was ready.
Diet Dr Pepper is evil and I'm blaming you for the bottle of it sitting in my fridge.
Diet Dr Pepper is awesomeness though
Which is exactly why it's evil. :grumble:
Lol it lures you in with its yumminess and then BOOM!!! you're hooked for life, ending up on the corner in a cardboard box begging for change to buy a liter....at least that's what I've heard
Meh, I already do those things for chocolate, I could raise my prices enough to cover Diet Dr Pepper.
Lmao you could. ...or set up a Go Fund Me for your soda habit
That seems like internet begging. At least this way I'm doing a goods for services and can feel productive. :laugh:1 -
Frank Gallagher would be SO proud....nutmegoreo wrote: »
That seems like internet begging. At least this way I'm doing a goods for services and can feel productive. :laugh:
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diannethegeek wrote: »Chilli7777 wrote: »Any type of soda, sugar free or otherwise, expands the tummy and will make you feel hungry. Diet coke is so full of chemicals. It wont hinder your weight loss if you dont eat extra food, but it is bad for youe overall health in so many othet ways. Personally I dont touch it.
Ask me how I know you haven't read the rest of the thread.
SNORT!5 -
I feel like this argument follows me everywhere I go.
Poor, abused chemistry. Misquoted and misreferenced, fear-mongered chemistry.
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cerise_noir wrote: »
Frank Gallagher would be SO proud....nutmegoreo wrote: »
That seems like internet begging. At least this way I'm doing a goods for services and can feel productive. :laugh:
That's not Frank, this is Frank:
Flipping Americans, coming over here, stealing our amazingly awesome dramas... (well, when I say 'here', I don't mean 'here', because I'm now in Australia, but 'here', the UK)
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Do you or someone you know have a young baby....Would you give them DIET COKE??.... WHY NOT?!
Do you see animals in nature drinking Diet Coke?..... WHY NOT?!
If you have a dog and/or cat, would you give them Diet Coke?.... WHY NOT?!
This is the silliest logic fail I have ever seen.
I would not give a very young baby anything except milk (and maybe boiled water in hot weather) - and specific milk (human breast milk or specific infant formula) at that.
Does that mean adults should consume nothing but human milk or infant formulas??
I dont see animals in nature eating tinned dog food or packet dog food either - does this make it bad to feed such to domesticated pets??
No I wouldnt give my dog diet coke - but I wouldnt give her any drink except water and especially not milk (dogs being lactose intolerant)
Having said that, my husband does give her a small amount of his left over tea - shock horror
sweetened with equal. 4 -
^My dog used to love tea. My parents couldn't leave their cups at her height or she'd stick her snout in the cup and start drinking. Come to think of it, she loved my father's best, and his was always sweetened with at least three teaspoons of sugar.1
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My husband can drink diet soda no problem...He only drinks them in moderation (like when we are out at a restaurant). At home we typically only drink water.
I, however, can't have anything with aspartame in it. A few years ago, I was drinking diet green tea. I hated plain water, and it had zero calories. After months of drinking it, I started experiencing vision problems, numbness in my legs (started walking with a limp), and debilitating migraines. My doctor thought I had M.S. Thousands of dollars in medical tests later, we figured out it was aspartame poisoning. Some people just don't do well with it...I'm one of them.
I was excited when pepsi took aspartame out, just to experience soda again. However, I can't handle the carbonation, and end up feeling bloated after drinking it. LOL, I'll just stay away from it, but I don't begrudge anyone that can handle it
I am quite interested in how you figured out it was something that doesn't exist and thus doesn't have a test for finding it.1 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »For example, if someone says the FDA reports 98 known side effects of aspartame, it should be trivially easy to point to the FDA listing them and identifying them in an official source, no?
Since I know exactly where this claim comes from and it proves how ron didn't actually even research his own sources and is just repeating something he heard somewhere, let me enlighten you.
Here: http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/dailys/03/jan03/012203/02p-0317_emc-000199.txt
This is what the FDA calls a docket. What is a docket you may ask?
"The system allows consumers to access FDA's administrative proceedings and rule-making documents more readily, including Federal Registers, Petitions, supporting documents and comments."
and "By law, anyone can participate in the rule-making process by commenting in writing on rules FDA proposes. FDA routinely allows plenty of time for public input and carefully considers these comments when it draws up a final rule."
The link above is a docket comment sent TO the FDA by a certain Mark Gold of the Aspartame Toxicity Information Center, which appears to consist of Mark Gold, Mark Gold, Mark Gold and Mark Gold. A google search of the Center shows you exactly what kind of people use that as their source.15 -
stevencloser wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »For example, if someone says the FDA reports 98 known side effects of aspartame, it should be trivially easy to point to the FDA listing them and identifying them in an official source, no?
Since I know exactly where this claim comes from and it proves how ron didn't actually even research his own sources and is just repeating something he heard somewhere, let me enlighten you.
Here: http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/dailys/03/jan03/012203/02p-0317_emc-000199.txt
This is what the FDA calls a docket. What is a docket you may ask?
"The system allows consumers to access FDA's administrative proceedings and rule-making documents more readily, including Federal Registers, Petitions, supporting documents and comments."
and "By law, anyone can participate in the rule-making process by commenting in writing on rules FDA proposes. FDA routinely allows plenty of time for public input and carefully considers these comments when it draws up a final rule."
The link above is a docket comment sent TO the FDA by a certain Mark Gold of the Aspartame Toxicity Information Center, which appears to consist of Mark Gold, Mark Gold, Mark Gold and Mark Gold. A google search of the Center shows you exactly what kind of people use that as their source.
Because.......I have a life to live and very rapidly did a search and when I saw fda.gov grabbed the link. I didn't have time to read it. I saw your comment later and started a post that apologized for the mis-grabbed link but got distracted by kids and didn't end up posting until I saw this this morning. So no, not intentionally grabbed. Just not enough time to stop and read that it was a docket. I didn't catch that until later. My apologies. I will take more time to read before posting in the future and I just won't post when I'm in a hurry. Some people must live on these boards. I don't have time. It is partly why I hesitate to get into protracted arguments - sometimes I just don't have time to go back and comment on things that have been said and end up having to let it go in favor of getting work done. It grates me leaving things unfinished. That said, I have no issue with what the docket says (although not a source that should be said the fda endorsed as I posted previously). I know plenty of people that have exhibited side effects of aspartame so I have no issue with his list.
And right now, I can either choose to get my workout in or sit here and argue with people and lose my workout time. I'd rather workout. It burns more calories.
Y'all have a nice day.
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Not busy here! LOL3
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ronjsteele1 wrote: »
I am firmly in the camp that aspartame is not safe. I don't care if others want to fill their bodies with it. So be it. But I do not believe it is safe and I do not believe AT ALL that this issue is settled in the health community. Having read plenty on how aspartame got approved by the FDA was just the beginning (besides my own experience). The FDA lists 92 side effects of aspartame. No thank you. To each his own. People can drink away all they want. My issue is the attacks on people that are putting out another view point. I do not bow at the feet of "studies" because a huge majority of them are backgrounded by the industry themselves. I believe nothing coming out of the FDA. They are completely corrupt as far as I'm concerned.
Just wanting to point out the irony of you stating that one of the reasons you avoid aspartame is because the FDA lists 92 side effects. Then in the next breath you say you believe nothing that the FDA says because they are completely corrupt.
You can't suck and blow at the same time.
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stevencloser wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »For example, if someone says the FDA reports 98 known side effects of aspartame, it should be trivially easy to point to the FDA listing them and identifying them in an official source, no?
Since I know exactly where this claim comes from and it proves how ron didn't actually even research his own sources and is just repeating something he heard somewhere, let me enlighten you.
Here: http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/dailys/03/jan03/012203/02p-0317_emc-000199.txt
This is what the FDA calls a docket. What is a docket you may ask?
"The system allows consumers to access FDA's administrative proceedings and rule-making documents more readily, including Federal Registers, Petitions, supporting documents and comments."
and "By law, anyone can participate in the rule-making process by commenting in writing on rules FDA proposes. FDA routinely allows plenty of time for public input and carefully considers these comments when it draws up a final rule."
The link above is a docket comment sent TO the FDA by a certain Mark Gold of the Aspartame Toxicity Information Center, which appears to consist of Mark Gold, Mark Gold, Mark Gold and Mark Gold. A google search of the Center shows you exactly what kind of people use that as their source.
After the claim of 92 side effects of aspartame was posted yesterday, I Googled it and found that ridiculousness. I also found this gem, which claims that if a pregnant woman eats a cookie made with aspartame, it will kill her baby:
http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/dockets/02p0317/02P-0317_emc-000399.txt
There's some crazy *babysloth* out there.
A general request: please vet your sources before posting them. If you "don't have time" to thoroughly read and understand what it is you're referencing, don't reference it or assume it's factual. It's that simple.7 -
snickerscharlie wrote: »ronjsteele1 wrote: »
I am firmly in the camp that aspartame is not safe. I don't care if others want to fill their bodies with it. So be it. But I do not believe it is safe and I do not believe AT ALL that this issue is settled in the health community. Having read plenty on how aspartame got approved by the FDA was just the beginning (besides my own experience). The FDA lists 92 side effects of aspartame. No thank you. To each his own. People can drink away all they want. My issue is the attacks on people that are putting out another view point. I do not bow at the feet of "studies" because a huge majority of them are backgrounded by the industry themselves. I believe nothing coming out of the FDA. They are completely corrupt as far as I'm concerned.
Just wanting to point out the irony of you stating that one of the reasons you avoid aspartame is because the FDA lists 92 side effects. Then in the next breath you say you believe nothing that the FDA says because they are completely corrupt.
You can't suck and blow at the same time.
Wait!!! I can suck and blow at the same time 5
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