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ronjsteele1 wrote: »ronjsteele1 wrote: »paperpudding wrote: »ronjsteele1 wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »For some people it does cause cravings, for other it doesn't. You just have to go by how diet soda effects you personally.
I'm one of those people that is/was greatly affected by artificial sweeteners. It did affect my cravings, I did gain a tremendous amount of weight drinking them (b/c it affects cravings which affected my appetite). And to top it off, the AS gave me a severe case of pancreatitis while pregnant (not a good thing!). Needless to say, I abruptly stopped my 6-8 can a day diet coke habit 15+ years ago and can't touch artificial sweeteners (they still affect me). That said, I still like a fizzy drink once in awhile so I drink Blue Sky Root Beer sweetened with stevia. Neither stevia nor xylitol seem to affect me. But I don't drink it often. Maybe one a week. I'm a water girl mostly. Because of my experience (and plenty of reading), I am firmly in the corner of the stuff is crap and no one should touch it. But like Christine said, not everyone is affected the way I was.
After such experiences I understand why you are in the camp of YOU shouldnt drink it ( although you could of experimented with drinking less than 8 cans a day - you know, context, dosage) but I dont understand why you are in the camp of " no-one should touch it" - given, as you said yourself, it doesnt affect everyone the way it affected you.
That is like someone saying I have an anaphylactic reaction to peanuts so I am in the camp of they are bad for ME - nobody would dispute that.
But most people dont go on to say therefore nobody should touch them.
Oh, no kidding. The issue was, I literally craved Diet Coke so I drank it like water. Any sort of diet soda would satisfy the need but I preferred Diet Coke. That's where I do think that aspartame does have addictive possibilities because there's nothing else in it that would indicate that kind of pull.
I can too understand why you choose not to drink diet soda, but saying Aspartame has addictive possibilities implies that it's possibly a drug. However, one will most likely never steal to get a hit of Aspartame, or go into a recovery program and say, "I'm an addict and I've been clean of Aspartame for ten days."
There is nothing at all wrong with Aspartame, just as there is nothing wrong with diet coke, but it's all about what is right or wrong for the individual. Obviously, for you, Aspartame and diet coke are not the best choices because they do make you hungrier.
I like Aspartame and diet coke, but I use neither because (1) Aspartame exacerbates my IBS and (2) diet coke, and any carbonated drinks, exacerbates my acid reflux.
I am firmly in the camp that aspartame is not safe. I don't care if others want to fill their bodies with it. So be it. But I do not believe it is safe and I do not believe AT ALL that this issue is settled in the health community. Having read plenty on how aspartame got approved by the FDA was just the beginning (besides my own experience). The FDA lists 92 side effects of aspartame. No thank you. To each his own. People can drink away all they want. My issue is the attacks on people that are putting out another view point. I do not bow at the feet of "studies" because a huge majority of them are backgrounded by the industry themselves. I believe nothing coming out of the FDA. They are completely corrupt as far as I'm concerned.
That said, I do not go around telling people they CAN'T drink it. But I have no issue with others posting the reasons why they believe it's bad for someone either. People on this forum can't seem to allow both sides of an issue to be laid out and for others to read and decide for themselves what to believe. There are those here that like to think they have science on their side. I'll try not to laugh the day the health community comes out and says they screwed up and this stuff is crap for people and oh, yes, aspartame is not only addictive but it does cause one to gain weight and have issues with their blood sugar, etc. etc . etc. And if they never do, then I will happily say I was wrong. But until then, I continue to stand on the side of "it's crap and not good for anyone." The FDA is notorious for backtracking on things they once approved for human consumption. I see aspartame as one of those things that is eventually going to come home to roost on the FDA's doorstep.
Be well......
A few years ago I was overweight and a pre-diabetic. I started drinking diet soda during my weight loss phase. Fast forward several years, to last month-
Blood work panel/health screening, completed October, 2016:
38 years old-female
5'6"
current BMI 21.1
-total cholesterol: 143
-cholesterol/HDL Ratio: 2.6 (anything under 5 is optimal)
-HDL: 55
-LDL: 84
-glucose: 95 (ie no longer a pre-diabetic)
-blood pressure: 102/74
-waist circumference: 25
I continue to drink diet soda every single day.10 -
ronjsteele1 wrote: »ronjsteele1 wrote: »paperpudding wrote: »ronjsteele1 wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »For some people it does cause cravings, for other it doesn't. You just have to go by how diet soda effects you personally.
I'm one of those people that is/was greatly affected by artificial sweeteners. It did affect my cravings, I did gain a tremendous amount of weight drinking them (b/c it affects cravings which affected my appetite). And to top it off, the AS gave me a severe case of pancreatitis while pregnant (not a good thing!). Needless to say, I abruptly stopped my 6-8 can a day diet coke habit 15+ years ago and can't touch artificial sweeteners (they still affect me). That said, I still like a fizzy drink once in awhile so I drink Blue Sky Root Beer sweetened with stevia. Neither stevia nor xylitol seem to affect me. But I don't drink it often. Maybe one a week. I'm a water girl mostly. Because of my experience (and plenty of reading), I am firmly in the corner of the stuff is crap and no one should touch it. But like Christine said, not everyone is affected the way I was.
After such experiences I understand why you are in the camp of YOU shouldnt drink it ( although you could of experimented with drinking less than 8 cans a day - you know, context, dosage) but I dont understand why you are in the camp of " no-one should touch it" - given, as you said yourself, it doesnt affect everyone the way it affected you.
That is like someone saying I have an anaphylactic reaction to peanuts so I am in the camp of they are bad for ME - nobody would dispute that.
But most people dont go on to say therefore nobody should touch them.
Oh, no kidding. The issue was, I literally craved Diet Coke so I drank it like water. Any sort of diet soda would satisfy the need but I preferred Diet Coke. That's where I do think that aspartame does have addictive possibilities because there's nothing else in it that would indicate that kind of pull.
I can too understand why you choose not to drink diet soda, but saying Aspartame has addictive possibilities implies that it's possibly a drug. However, one will most likely never steal to get a hit of Aspartame, or go into a recovery program and say, "I'm an addict and I've been clean of Aspartame for ten days."
There is nothing at all wrong with Aspartame, just as there is nothing wrong with diet coke, but it's all about what is right or wrong for the individual. Obviously, for you, Aspartame and diet coke are not the best choices because they do make you hungrier.
I like Aspartame and diet coke, but I use neither because (1) Aspartame exacerbates my IBS and (2) diet coke, and any carbonated drinks, exacerbates my acid reflux.
I am firmly in the camp that aspartame is not safe. I don't care if others want to fill their bodies with it. So be it. But I do not believe it is safe and I do not believe AT ALL that this issue is settled in the health community. Having read plenty on how aspartame got approved by the FDA was just the beginning (besides my own experience). The FDA lists 92 side effects of aspartame. No thank you. To each his own. People can drink away all they want. My issue is the attacks on people that are putting out another view point. I do not bow at the feet of "studies" because a huge majority of them are backgrounded by the industry themselves. I believe nothing coming out of the FDA. They are completely corrupt as far as I'm concerned.
That said, I do not go around telling people they CAN'T drink it. But I have no issue with others posting the reasons why they believe it's bad for someone either. People on this forum can't seem to allow both sides of an issue to be laid out and for others to read and decide for themselves what to believe. There are those here that like to think they have science on their side. I'll try not to laugh the day the health community comes out and says they screwed up and this stuff is crap for people and oh, yes, aspartame is not only addictive but it does cause one to gain weight and have issues with their blood sugar, etc. etc . etc. And if they never do, then I will happily say I was wrong. But until then, I continue to stand on the side of "it's crap and not good for anyone." The FDA is notorious for backtracking on things they once approved for human consumption. I see aspartame as one of those things that is eventually going to come home to roost on the FDA's doorstep.
Be well......
Aspartame is by FAR the single most studied food ingredient in existence. We know what it is chemically, we know what happens to it in your body, we know all the things it immediately breaks apart into once it hits your digestive tract are found in concentration thousands of times higher in other everyday foods than you'd ever be able to ingest in diet soda.
You are wrong, your side is wrong, there is literally nothing reputable that agrees with you.
And just to show you how wrong you are, even your line about the FDA listing 92 side effects is wrong, which you'd be able to know if you'd take 5 minutes to look it up.11 -
In honor of this thread, I went to the store today and bought three bottles of diet soda.
Bottoms up!
I often have a glass when I'm feeling like I want a little something but know I'm not really hungry. It really has helped my dieting efforts in that way.9 -
@amandapleighse92 @August_1958 Those links aren't taken seriously because there's not a shred of scientific evidence in them.amandapleighse92 wrote: »Calliope610 wrote: »August_1958 wrote: »University of Texas Health Center and the Harvard Medical School says diet sodas ARE in fact bad for you. Read the study here...
https://bionews-tx.com/news/2013/05/23/ut-health-science-center-study-reveals-how-diet-soda-contributes-to-obesity-poor-health/
I personally do not and never have consumed any diet drink in my life, so I cannot state my own personal opinion whether it helps or hinders a weight loss regime. I have had several bad reactions to desserts that were made with artificial sweeteners, which is why I have elected to stay clear of all artificial sweeteners. Let me add, I do not drink regular soda either. Let your preference and conscious lead you to your decision. If you LOVE Diet Coke and it helps you lose weight, the choice is yours!
Please provide links to the actual studies. That article was not a study, merely a layman's synopsis.
^Agreed.
Come on, guys...it's like playing Frisbee by yourself.6 -
cerise_noir wrote: »@amandapleighse92 @August_1958 Those links aren't taken seriously because there's not a shred of scientific evidence in them.amandapleighse92 wrote: »Calliope610 wrote: »August_1958 wrote: »University of Texas Health Center and the Harvard Medical School says diet sodas ARE in fact bad for you. Read the study here...
https://bionews-tx.com/news/2013/05/23/ut-health-science-center-study-reveals-how-diet-soda-contributes-to-obesity-poor-health/
I personally do not and never have consumed any diet drink in my life, so I cannot state my own personal opinion whether it helps or hinders a weight loss regime. I have had several bad reactions to desserts that were made with artificial sweeteners, which is why I have elected to stay clear of all artificial sweeteners. Let me add, I do not drink regular soda either. Let your preference and conscious lead you to your decision. If you LOVE Diet Coke and it helps you lose weight, the choice is yours!
Please provide links to the actual studies. That article was not a study, merely a layman's synopsis.
^Agreed.
Come on, guys...it's like playing Frisbee by yourself.
Wouldn't that be good for calorie burn, though?
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The links to the studies where the think say diet soda makes you gain weight will all show the same thing: epidemiological studies with correlative links, not causative links.
How many people have seen folks at McDonalds order tons of fast food along with a diet soda?
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snickerscharlie wrote: »cerise_noir wrote: »@amandapleighse92 @August_1958 Those links aren't taken seriously because there's not a shred of scientific evidence in them.amandapleighse92 wrote: »Calliope610 wrote: »August_1958 wrote: »University of Texas Health Center and the Harvard Medical School says diet sodas ARE in fact bad for you. Read the study here...
https://bionews-tx.com/news/2013/05/23/ut-health-science-center-study-reveals-how-diet-soda-contributes-to-obesity-poor-health/
I personally do not and never have consumed any diet drink in my life, so I cannot state my own personal opinion whether it helps or hinders a weight loss regime. I have had several bad reactions to desserts that were made with artificial sweeteners, which is why I have elected to stay clear of all artificial sweeteners. Let me add, I do not drink regular soda either. Let your preference and conscious lead you to your decision. If you LOVE Diet Coke and it helps you lose weight, the choice is yours!
Please provide links to the actual studies. That article was not a study, merely a layman's synopsis.
^Agreed.
Come on, guys...it's like playing Frisbee by yourself.
Wouldn't that be good for calorie burn, though?
I guess it would.
Then we can all have a nice tall glass of cold diet....
Oh. Wait. It's the new Devil now. We'll leave this one to Sam and Dean.4 -
snickerscharlie wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »Calliope610 wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »tomdomurat wrote: »Do you or someone you know have a young baby....Would you give them DIET COKE??.... WHY NOT?!
Do you see animals in nature drinking Diet Coke?..... WHY NOT?!
If you have a dog and/or cat, would you give them Diet Coke?.... WHY NOT?!
These are "chemical" ingredients of Diet Coke:
Carbonated water, caramel color, aspartame, phosphoric acid, potassium benzoate (to protect taste), natural flavors, citric acid, caffeine.
Aspartame:
What appears to happen is that when a person eats something artificially sweetened, your body knows the difference. It knows there are no calories to deal with, so leptin is not released to trigger satiety.
And when leptin is not released, ghrelin continues to be released, causing us to eat more.
This leads to weight gain instead of loss.
Caramel Color:
Caramel coloring uses a combination of sulfites and ammonium.
This concentrated dark brown mixture of chemicals does not occur in nature.
Phosphoric Acid:
Phosphoric acid in its pure form is a colorless, odorless crystal extracted from rocks with sulfuric acid or by burning off elemental phosphorus and adding water to the byproduct.
It’s a corrosive acid and can form toxic fumes when it comes into contact with alcohols, ketones and other organic compounds.
It’s used in fertilizers, livestock feed, soaps, polishes, dyes, polishing metals and in many other nonfood products.
It’s added to soft drinks to provide a sharper, tangy taste and to help slow the growth of molds and bacteria in sugary formulas.
Potassium Benzoate:
Potassium benzoate is a chemical preservative that is commonly added to some foods and drinks, but most notably soft drinks.
It is an effective preservative because it blocks the growth of some bacteria, yeast and mold.
Caffeine:
Linked to many side affects such as Insomnia, Nervousness, Restlessness, Irritability, Stomach upsets, Fast heartbeat, Muscle tremors.
This is a joke, right? This has to be a joke. Those first three lines..... I can't even. Is this the logic we are supposed to use? So the only things we are allowed to eat or drink are the things we feed babies, domesticated animals, and that wild animals would have access to and choose for themselves? That's really going to limit my dinner menu... Dry Dog food? Nope. Baby can't chew it. Pureed baby food? Nope - the deer can't open the Gerber jar with their hooves. Well crap.
My dog eats cat crap? So following @tomdomurat's logic, do I have to feed my kids cat crap?
Mine does too!!!! So disgusting. Well, I hope my kids are ready for what's on the menu for tonight!
Let them eat cake.
Kitty litter cake, that is!
Here's the recipe:
http://www.kristianhoffman.com/kitty-litter.htm
I love that it was made clear that you should use a NEW litter box, and a NEW litter scoop :laugh:10 -
I have enjoyed either a Coke Zero, Diet Coke or Diet Dr. Pepper regularly throughout my entire weight loss journey. I have lost 100 pounds. They actually help curb my appetite.5
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nutmegoreo wrote: »snickerscharlie wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »Calliope610 wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »tomdomurat wrote: »Do you or someone you know have a young baby....Would you give them DIET COKE??.... WHY NOT?!
Do you see animals in nature drinking Diet Coke?..... WHY NOT?!
If you have a dog and/or cat, would you give them Diet Coke?.... WHY NOT?!
These are "chemical" ingredients of Diet Coke:
Carbonated water, caramel color, aspartame, phosphoric acid, potassium benzoate (to protect taste), natural flavors, citric acid, caffeine.
Aspartame:
What appears to happen is that when a person eats something artificially sweetened, your body knows the difference. It knows there are no calories to deal with, so leptin is not released to trigger satiety.
And when leptin is not released, ghrelin continues to be released, causing us to eat more.
This leads to weight gain instead of loss.
Caramel Color:
Caramel coloring uses a combination of sulfites and ammonium.
This concentrated dark brown mixture of chemicals does not occur in nature.
Phosphoric Acid:
Phosphoric acid in its pure form is a colorless, odorless crystal extracted from rocks with sulfuric acid or by burning off elemental phosphorus and adding water to the byproduct.
It’s a corrosive acid and can form toxic fumes when it comes into contact with alcohols, ketones and other organic compounds.
It’s used in fertilizers, livestock feed, soaps, polishes, dyes, polishing metals and in many other nonfood products.
It’s added to soft drinks to provide a sharper, tangy taste and to help slow the growth of molds and bacteria in sugary formulas.
Potassium Benzoate:
Potassium benzoate is a chemical preservative that is commonly added to some foods and drinks, but most notably soft drinks.
It is an effective preservative because it blocks the growth of some bacteria, yeast and mold.
Caffeine:
Linked to many side affects such as Insomnia, Nervousness, Restlessness, Irritability, Stomach upsets, Fast heartbeat, Muscle tremors.
This is a joke, right? This has to be a joke. Those first three lines..... I can't even. Is this the logic we are supposed to use? So the only things we are allowed to eat or drink are the things we feed babies, domesticated animals, and that wild animals would have access to and choose for themselves? That's really going to limit my dinner menu... Dry Dog food? Nope. Baby can't chew it. Pureed baby food? Nope - the deer can't open the Gerber jar with their hooves. Well crap.
My dog eats cat crap? So following @tomdomurat's logic, do I have to feed my kids cat crap?
Mine does too!!!! So disgusting. Well, I hope my kids are ready for what's on the menu for tonight!
Let them eat cake.
Kitty litter cake, that is!
Here's the recipe:
http://www.kristianhoffman.com/kitty-litter.htm
I love that it was made clear that you should use a NEW little box, and a NEW litter scoop :laugh:
It's waaay too realistic looking. Especially the 'poop' hanging off the edge of the tray. The person who made it has obviously met my cat. Though to be perfectly accurate, there would also be fake litter sprayed around the tray as well as in it.9 -
BruinsGal_91 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »snickerscharlie wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »Calliope610 wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »tomdomurat wrote: »Do you or someone you know have a young baby....Would you give them DIET COKE??.... WHY NOT?!
Do you see animals in nature drinking Diet Coke?..... WHY NOT?!
If you have a dog and/or cat, would you give them Diet Coke?.... WHY NOT?!
These are "chemical" ingredients of Diet Coke:
Carbonated water, caramel color, aspartame, phosphoric acid, potassium benzoate (to protect taste), natural flavors, citric acid, caffeine.
Aspartame:
What appears to happen is that when a person eats something artificially sweetened, your body knows the difference. It knows there are no calories to deal with, so leptin is not released to trigger satiety.
And when leptin is not released, ghrelin continues to be released, causing us to eat more.
This leads to weight gain instead of loss.
Caramel Color:
Caramel coloring uses a combination of sulfites and ammonium.
This concentrated dark brown mixture of chemicals does not occur in nature.
Phosphoric Acid:
Phosphoric acid in its pure form is a colorless, odorless crystal extracted from rocks with sulfuric acid or by burning off elemental phosphorus and adding water to the byproduct.
It’s a corrosive acid and can form toxic fumes when it comes into contact with alcohols, ketones and other organic compounds.
It’s used in fertilizers, livestock feed, soaps, polishes, dyes, polishing metals and in many other nonfood products.
It’s added to soft drinks to provide a sharper, tangy taste and to help slow the growth of molds and bacteria in sugary formulas.
Potassium Benzoate:
Potassium benzoate is a chemical preservative that is commonly added to some foods and drinks, but most notably soft drinks.
It is an effective preservative because it blocks the growth of some bacteria, yeast and mold.
Caffeine:
Linked to many side affects such as Insomnia, Nervousness, Restlessness, Irritability, Stomach upsets, Fast heartbeat, Muscle tremors.
This is a joke, right? This has to be a joke. Those first three lines..... I can't even. Is this the logic we are supposed to use? So the only things we are allowed to eat or drink are the things we feed babies, domesticated animals, and that wild animals would have access to and choose for themselves? That's really going to limit my dinner menu... Dry Dog food? Nope. Baby can't chew it. Pureed baby food? Nope - the deer can't open the Gerber jar with their hooves. Well crap.
My dog eats cat crap? So following @tomdomurat's logic, do I have to feed my kids cat crap?
Mine does too!!!! So disgusting. Well, I hope my kids are ready for what's on the menu for tonight!
Let them eat cake.
Kitty litter cake, that is!
Here's the recipe:
http://www.kristianhoffman.com/kitty-litter.htm
I love that it was made clear that you should use a NEW little box, and a NEW litter scoop :laugh:
It's waaay too realistic looking. Especially the 'poop' hanging off the edge of the tray. The person who made it has obviously met my cat. Though to be perfectly accurate, there would also be fake litter sprayed around the tray as well as in it.
Mine too. I don't know how they manage it.0 -
nutmegoreo wrote: »BruinsGal_91 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »snickerscharlie wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »Calliope610 wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »tomdomurat wrote: »Do you or someone you know have a young baby....Would you give them DIET COKE??.... WHY NOT?!
Do you see animals in nature drinking Diet Coke?..... WHY NOT?!
If you have a dog and/or cat, would you give them Diet Coke?.... WHY NOT?!
These are "chemical" ingredients of Diet Coke:
Carbonated water, caramel color, aspartame, phosphoric acid, potassium benzoate (to protect taste), natural flavors, citric acid, caffeine.
Aspartame:
What appears to happen is that when a person eats something artificially sweetened, your body knows the difference. It knows there are no calories to deal with, so leptin is not released to trigger satiety.
And when leptin is not released, ghrelin continues to be released, causing us to eat more.
This leads to weight gain instead of loss.
Caramel Color:
Caramel coloring uses a combination of sulfites and ammonium.
This concentrated dark brown mixture of chemicals does not occur in nature.
Phosphoric Acid:
Phosphoric acid in its pure form is a colorless, odorless crystal extracted from rocks with sulfuric acid or by burning off elemental phosphorus and adding water to the byproduct.
It’s a corrosive acid and can form toxic fumes when it comes into contact with alcohols, ketones and other organic compounds.
It’s used in fertilizers, livestock feed, soaps, polishes, dyes, polishing metals and in many other nonfood products.
It’s added to soft drinks to provide a sharper, tangy taste and to help slow the growth of molds and bacteria in sugary formulas.
Potassium Benzoate:
Potassium benzoate is a chemical preservative that is commonly added to some foods and drinks, but most notably soft drinks.
It is an effective preservative because it blocks the growth of some bacteria, yeast and mold.
Caffeine:
Linked to many side affects such as Insomnia, Nervousness, Restlessness, Irritability, Stomach upsets, Fast heartbeat, Muscle tremors.
This is a joke, right? This has to be a joke. Those first three lines..... I can't even. Is this the logic we are supposed to use? So the only things we are allowed to eat or drink are the things we feed babies, domesticated animals, and that wild animals would have access to and choose for themselves? That's really going to limit my dinner menu... Dry Dog food? Nope. Baby can't chew it. Pureed baby food? Nope - the deer can't open the Gerber jar with their hooves. Well crap.
My dog eats cat crap? So following @tomdomurat's logic, do I have to feed my kids cat crap?
Mine does too!!!! So disgusting. Well, I hope my kids are ready for what's on the menu for tonight!
Let them eat cake.
Kitty litter cake, that is!
Here's the recipe:
http://www.kristianhoffman.com/kitty-litter.htm
I love that it was made clear that you should use a NEW little box, and a NEW litter scoop :laugh:
It's waaay too realistic looking. Especially the 'poop' hanging off the edge of the tray. The person who made it has obviously met my cat. Though to be perfectly accurate, there would also be fake litter sprayed around the tray as well as in it.
Mine too. I don't know how they manage it.
They're cats. They plan that *kitten*.3 -
I just read the label on my Diet Coke I'm enjoying while having lunch - it has 7 ingredients starting with watergwenster89 wrote: »So in other words, none of those studies prove what they were purported to prove. As usual.
Okay, I can admit defeat. I assumed the relationship was causative, not correlative, from rumblings on the street, not studies I had sat down and read. Baseline, I don't think we should be eating and drinking stuff with a million ingredients that's artificially created in a lab. I'm a farmer and I'll totally admit my bias that I believe in the power of whole foods and want everyone, especially my sisters around the world, to jump on the bandwagon. And I'm not anti soda or diet soda! Just anti evil corporations like Coca Cola and PepsiCo. Didn't mean to insult anyone, just jumped the gun, and I apologize.8 -
I just read the label on my Diet Coke I'm enjoying while having lunch - it has 7 ingredients starting with watergwenster89 wrote: »So in other words, none of those studies prove what they were purported to prove. As usual.
Okay, I can admit defeat. I assumed the relationship was causative, not correlative, from rumblings on the street, not studies I had sat down and read. Baseline, I don't think we should be eating and drinking stuff with a million ingredients that's artificially created in a lab. I'm a farmer and I'll totally admit my bias that I believe in the power of whole foods and want everyone, especially my sisters around the world, to jump on the bandwagon. And I'm not anti soda or diet soda! Just anti evil corporations like Coca Cola and PepsiCo. Didn't mean to insult anyone, just jumped the gun, and I apologize.
The generic diet cola I'm drinking right now has 8, also starts with water.5 -
amandapleighse92 wrote: »they are terrible for you! they make you hungry and make you crave sugar. Plus they have been linked to cancer. WATER is the best. To me it's easiest to skip the diet soda and tackle the root of the problem by not drinking soda. Or at least start cutting back and in time you can stop completely. They are terrible for you an to me every calorie I hold very dear. If I can cut it out I do so. Lots of girls drink diet cokes though and hell they are skinny, Chemicals beats calories they say!
The only way you could be more wrong is if you added "The earth is flat" to the end of your post.
Wait - The earth's not flat?!? Sonofa....8 -
I feel like this argument follows me everywhere I go.
Poor, abused chemistry. Misquoted and misreferenced, fear-mongered chemistry.12 -
I have been drinking diet coke since I was 4 years old. I have to say I really truly love it and will probably never give it up entirely. However, just like anything, it's best in moderation. Caramel coloring, aspartame, metal packaging, etc -> I feel having more than 2-3 a day could have a negative effect in some manner down the road. I used to drink about a liter per day, but I have cut back and drink about 1 glass every 2 days, which I make at home with soda stream (and actual Diet Coke brand fountain syrup, lucky me!). It has never affected my weight or cravings that I can tell, but I would have to assume that water is always what's best for you, so I've gotten quite used to drinking a lot more ice water these days and enjoying my diet coke as a bubbly treat 0
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My husband can drink diet soda no problem...He only drinks them in moderation (like when we are out at a restaurant). At home we typically only drink water.
I, however, can't have anything with aspartame in it. A few years ago, I was drinking diet green tea. I hated plain water, and it had zero calories. After months of drinking it, I started experiencing vision problems, numbness in my legs (started walking with a limp), and debilitating migraines. My doctor thought I had M.S. Thousands of dollars in medical tests later, we figured out it was aspartame poisoning. Some people just don't do well with it...I'm one of them.
I was excited when pepsi took aspartame out, just to experience soda again. However, I can't handle the carbonation, and end up feeling bloated after drinking it. LOL, I'll just stay away from it, but I don't begrudge anyone that can handle it 2 -
It's the daily flogging!4
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snickerscharlie wrote: »
Let them eat cake.
Kitty litter cake, that is!
Here's the recipe:
http://www.kristianhoffman.com/kitty-litter.htm
Sidebar:
I love that cake. I've made it for many a Halloween party. And just a word of advise, Little Debbie Fudge Brownies make a much, much more realistic looking cat poop than the Tootsie Rolls. Here's two of mine.
Now back to the discussion. 10
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