Diet Cokes ?
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Diet sodas tend to be calorie free or very reduced, so technically, they shouldn't harm your efforts.
However, I don't drink them because I consider them to be "processed food," which I try to avoid, and because for me, diet soda is a "gateway drug." I associate it with salty/crunchy/spicy and my willpower seems to diminish when I have it. If I drink it, it's once in a great while.
Cheers!
p.s. I guess I am a hypocrite, though, because Vodka is processed and I have no issues enjoying that! HA!!1 -
ronjsteele1 wrote: »paperpudding wrote: »ronjsteele1 wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »For some people it does cause cravings, for other it doesn't. You just have to go by how diet soda effects you personally.
I'm one of those people that is/was greatly affected by artificial sweeteners. It did affect my cravings, I did gain a tremendous amount of weight drinking them (b/c it affects cravings which affected my appetite). And to top it off, the AS gave me a severe case of pancreatitis while pregnant (not a good thing!). Needless to say, I abruptly stopped my 6-8 can a day diet coke habit 15+ years ago and can't touch artificial sweeteners (they still affect me). That said, I still like a fizzy drink once in awhile so I drink Blue Sky Root Beer sweetened with stevia. Neither stevia nor xylitol seem to affect me. But I don't drink it often. Maybe one a week. I'm a water girl mostly. Because of my experience (and plenty of reading), I am firmly in the corner of the stuff is crap and no one should touch it. But like Christine said, not everyone is affected the way I was.
After such experiences I understand why you are in the camp of YOU shouldnt drink it ( although you could of experimented with drinking less than 8 cans a day - you know, context, dosage) but I dont understand why you are in the camp of " no-one should touch it" - given, as you said yourself, it doesnt affect everyone the way it affected you.
That is like someone saying I have an anaphylactic reaction to peanuts so I am in the camp of they are bad for ME - nobody would dispute that.
But most people dont go on to say therefore nobody should touch them.
Oh, no kidding. The issue was, I literally craved Diet Coke so I drank it like water. Any sort of diet soda would satisfy the need but I preferred Diet Coke. That's where I do think that aspartame does have addictive possibilities because there's nothing else in it that would indicate that kind of pull.
I can too understand why you choose not to drink diet soda, but saying Aspartame has addictive possibilities implies that it's possibly a drug. However, one will most likely never steal to get a hit of Aspartame, or go into a recovery program and say, "I'm an addict and I've been clean of Aspartame for ten days."
There is nothing at all wrong with Aspartame, just as there is nothing wrong with diet coke, but it's all about what is right or wrong for the individual. Obviously, for you, Aspartame and diet coke are not the best choices because they do make you hungrier.
I like Aspartame and diet coke, but I use neither because (1) Aspartame exacerbates my IBS and (2) diet coke, and any carbonated drinks, exacerbates my acid reflux.5 -
Oh...but I DO wonder this - was it Pepsi that recently removed aspartame from their diet sodas? If it's not bad for you, why remove it?0
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futuresize8 wrote: »Diet sodas tend to be calorie free or very reduced, so technically, they shouldn't harm your efforts.
However, I don't drink them because I consider them to be "processed food," which I try to avoid, and because for me, diet soda is a "gateway drug." I associate it with salty/crunchy/spicy and my willpower seems to diminish when I have it. If I drink it, it's once in a great while.
Cheers!
p.s. I guess I am a hypocrite, though, because Vodka is processed and I have no issues enjoying that! HA!!
Gateway drug?3 -
futuresize8 wrote: »Oh...but I DO wonder this - was it Pepsi that recently removed aspartame from their diet sodas? If it's not bad for you, why remove it?
Because they can sell more to the consumers who do believe it's bad despite the science?19 -
diannethegeek wrote: »futuresize8 wrote: »Oh...but I DO wonder this - was it Pepsi that recently removed aspartame from their diet sodas? If it's not bad for you, why remove it?
Because they can sell more to the consumers who do believe it's bad despite the science?
^^^ This mostly. Too much bad press on any sweetener has historically caused companies to switch. And to sell more, if they time it right with media coverage, releasing with a sweetener that has positive press means massive increase in sales. It's all about marketing. And from a marketing standpoint, it's brilliant. From a moral standpoint, I hate it.
In regards to OP, I drink diet soda to help stave off hunger and kill cravings. I am a big fan of Pepsi Max. My issue over the last 6+ months though is that I am so tired that I have been drinking more soda than I ever have. And as we know, too much of almost anything is never good. Slowly trying to kick my cravings for soda now with Coke Zero, since it doesn't have that extra sweetness of Max.3 -
futuresize8 wrote: »Oh...but I DO wonder this - was it Pepsi that recently removed aspartame from their diet sodas? If it's not bad for you, why remove it?
Because of all the people that believe the fearmongering, they thought they could actually catch coke's sales if they played on people's stupidity. They also just replaced it with sucralose, which is another artificial sweetner, but nobody liked it, so now that they have rebranded it as Pepsi Zero, they added the aspertame back into it.
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futuresize8 wrote: »Diet sodas tend to be calorie free or very reduced, so technically, they shouldn't harm your efforts.
However, I don't drink them because I consider them to be "processed food," which I try to avoid, and because for me, diet soda is a "gateway drug." I associate it with salty/crunchy/spicy and my willpower seems to diminish when I have it. If I drink it, it's once in a great while.
Cheers!
p.s. I guess I am a hypocrite, though, because Vodka is processed and I have no issues enjoying that! HA!!
Gateway drug?
Presumably used non seriously, or else salty/crunchy/spicy are being compared to the hard drugs.
Personally I quite like many processed foods, like greek yogurt and smoked salmon and frozen strawberries. Therefore, that coffee (my favorite non water beverage) is processed (which of course it is) has never seemed to me a reason to avoid it, but people all have their own things.
That one food is associated with another and so may be a trigger is a habit/behavioral thing that I can see people having (not unlike many people get tempted to smoke when drinking, unrelated to the fact that those are drugs, or may want to snack when watching a favorite TV show, as perhaps a better reference).0 -
futuresize8 wrote: »Oh...but I DO wonder this - was it Pepsi that recently removed aspartame from their diet sodas? If it's not bad for you, why remove it?
It's a marketing gimmick.5 -
Do you or someone you know have a young baby....Would you give them DIET COKE??.... WHY NOT?!
Do you see animals in nature drinking Diet Coke?..... WHY NOT?!
If you have a dog and/or cat, would you give them Diet Coke?.... WHY NOT?!
These are "chemical" ingredients of Diet Coke:
Carbonated water, caramel color, aspartame, phosphoric acid, potassium benzoate (to protect taste), natural flavors, citric acid, caffeine.
Aspartame:
What appears to happen is that when a person eats something artificially sweetened, your body knows the difference. It knows there are no calories to deal with, so leptin is not released to trigger satiety.
And when leptin is not released, ghrelin continues to be released, causing us to eat more.
This leads to weight gain instead of loss.
Caramel Color:
Caramel coloring uses a combination of sulfites and ammonium.
This concentrated dark brown mixture of chemicals does not occur in nature.
Phosphoric Acid:
Phosphoric acid in its pure form is a colorless, odorless crystal extracted from rocks with sulfuric acid or by burning off elemental phosphorus and adding water to the byproduct.
It’s a corrosive acid and can form toxic fumes when it comes into contact with alcohols, ketones and other organic compounds.
It’s used in fertilizers, livestock feed, soaps, polishes, dyes, polishing metals and in many other nonfood products.
It’s added to soft drinks to provide a sharper, tangy taste and to help slow the growth of molds and bacteria in sugary formulas.
Potassium Benzoate:
Potassium benzoate is a chemical preservative that is commonly added to some foods and drinks, but most notably soft drinks.
It is an effective preservative because it blocks the growth of some bacteria, yeast and mold.
Caffeine:
Linked to many side affects such as Insomnia, Nervousness, Restlessness, Irritability, Stomach upsets, Fast heartbeat, Muscle tremors.-3 -
1 post, no references and a lot of garbage.11
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Holy *kitten*.
Since there are no Calories, leptin is not released to trigger satiety? And that causes us to eat more? OK,so I guess nobody ever should drink plain water, as there are no Calories.
In short, No. *kitten* no.10 -
tomdomurat wrote: »Do you or someone you know have a young baby....Would you give them DIET COKE??.... WHY NOT?!
Do you see animals in nature drinking Diet Coke?..... WHY NOT?!
If you have a dog and/or cat, would you give them Diet Coke?.... WHY NOT?!
These are "chemical" ingredients of Diet Coke:
Carbonated water, caramel color, aspartame, phosphoric acid, potassium benzoate (to protect taste), natural flavors, citric acid, caffeine.
Aspartame:
What appears to happen is that when a person eats something artificially sweetened, your body knows the difference. It knows there are no calories to deal with, so leptin is not released to trigger satiety.
And when leptin is not released, ghrelin continues to be released, causing us to eat more.
This leads to weight gain instead of loss.
Caramel Color:
Caramel coloring uses a combination of sulfites and ammonium.
This concentrated dark brown mixture of chemicals does not occur in nature.
Phosphoric Acid:
Phosphoric acid in its pure form is a colorless, odorless crystal extracted from rocks with sulfuric acid or by burning off elemental phosphorus and adding water to the byproduct.
It’s a corrosive acid and can form toxic fumes when it comes into contact with alcohols, ketones and other organic compounds.
It’s used in fertilizers, livestock feed, soaps, polishes, dyes, polishing metals and in many other nonfood products.
It’s added to soft drinks to provide a sharper, tangy taste and to help slow the growth of molds and bacteria in sugary formulas.
Potassium Benzoate:
Potassium benzoate is a chemical preservative that is commonly added to some foods and drinks, but most notably soft drinks.
It is an effective preservative because it blocks the growth of some bacteria, yeast and mold.
Caffeine:
Linked to many side affects such as Insomnia, Nervousness, Restlessness, Irritability, Stomach upsets, Fast heartbeat, Muscle tremors.
<sigh>
I wouldn't give a baby or a puppy or a kitten vodka, either. Not sure what your point is.18 -
snickerscharlie wrote: »<sigh>
I wouldn't give a baby or a puppy or a kitten vodka, either. Not sure what your point is.
I've given a dog some white wine before. Very little and even the dog thought it was crap wine.
But some animals do like fermented fruit. Bears are funny drunk (on video, not in real life).
And one time I left half a cup of coffee within reach of my dog. I swear there were footprints on the ceiling after that. She was friggen hyper. Never did that again.
Or was this guy serious????
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tomdomurat wrote: »Do you or someone you know have a young baby....Would you give them DIET COKE??.... WHY NOT?!
Do you see animals in nature drinking Diet Coke?..... WHY NOT?!
If you have a dog and/or cat, would you give them Diet Coke?.... WHY NOT?!
These are "chemical" ingredients of Diet Coke:
Carbonated water, caramel color, aspartame, phosphoric acid, potassium benzoate (to protect taste), natural flavors, citric acid, caffeine.
Aspartame:
What appears to happen is that when a person eats something artificially sweetened, your body knows the difference. It knows there are no calories to deal with, so leptin is not released to trigger satiety.
And when leptin is not released, ghrelin continues to be released, causing us to eat more.
This leads to weight gain instead of loss.
Caramel Color:
Caramel coloring uses a combination of sulfites and ammonium.
This concentrated dark brown mixture of chemicals does not occur in nature.
Phosphoric Acid:
Phosphoric acid in its pure form is a colorless, odorless crystal extracted from rocks with sulfuric acid or by burning off elemental phosphorus and adding water to the byproduct.
It’s a corrosive acid and can form toxic fumes when it comes into contact with alcohols, ketones and other organic compounds.
It’s used in fertilizers, livestock feed, soaps, polishes, dyes, polishing metals and in many other nonfood products.
It’s added to soft drinks to provide a sharper, tangy taste and to help slow the growth of molds and bacteria in sugary formulas.
Potassium Benzoate:
Potassium benzoate is a chemical preservative that is commonly added to some foods and drinks, but most notably soft drinks.
It is an effective preservative because it blocks the growth of some bacteria, yeast and mold.
Caffeine:
Linked to many side affects such as Insomnia, Nervousness, Restlessness, Irritability, Stomach upsets, Fast heartbeat, Muscle tremors.
Oooo how scary! Better switch to premium brand mineral water that contains....
Sulphates
Sodium
Bicarbonates
Silica
Chlorides
Nitrates
Calcium
Magnesium
Potassium
Chemicalzzzzzz. Terrifying! (Not)
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tomdomurat wrote: »Do you or someone you know have a young baby....Would you give them DIET COKE??.... WHY NOT?!
Do you see animals in nature drinking Diet Coke?..... WHY NOT?!
If you have a dog and/or cat, would you give them Diet Coke?.... WHY NOT?!
These are "chemical" ingredients of Diet Coke:
Carbonated water, caramel color, aspartame, phosphoric acid, potassium benzoate (to protect taste), natural flavors, citric acid, caffeine.
Aspartame:
What appears to happen is that when a person eats something artificially sweetened, your body knows the difference. It knows there are no calories to deal with, so leptin is not released to trigger satiety.
And when leptin is not released, ghrelin continues to be released, causing us to eat more.
This leads to weight gain instead of loss.
Caramel Color:
Caramel coloring uses a combination of sulfites and ammonium.
This concentrated dark brown mixture of chemicals does not occur in nature.
Phosphoric Acid:
Phosphoric acid in its pure form is a colorless, odorless crystal extracted from rocks with sulfuric acid or by burning off elemental phosphorus and adding water to the byproduct.
It’s a corrosive acid and can form toxic fumes when it comes into contact with alcohols, ketones and other organic compounds.
It’s used in fertilizers, livestock feed, soaps, polishes, dyes, polishing metals and in many other nonfood products.
It’s added to soft drinks to provide a sharper, tangy taste and to help slow the growth of molds and bacteria in sugary formulas.
Potassium Benzoate:
Potassium benzoate is a chemical preservative that is commonly added to some foods and drinks, but most notably soft drinks.
It is an effective preservative because it blocks the growth of some bacteria, yeast and mold.
Caffeine:
Linked to many side affects such as Insomnia, Nervousness, Restlessness, Irritability, Stomach upsets, Fast heartbeat, Muscle tremors.
*opens trash can and tosses this in*
What utter, non scientifically supported garbage. Dog turds have more substance.10 -
amandapleighse92 wrote: »“Brace yourselves, girls: Soda is liquid Satan. It is the devil. It is garbage. There is nothing in soda that should be put into your body. For starters, soda’s high levels of phosphorous can increase calcium loss from the body, as can its sodium and caffeine. [Cousens, Conscious Eating, 475] You know what this means—bone loss, which may lead to osteoporosis. And the last time we checked, sugar, found in soda by the boatload, does not make you skinny! Now don’t go patting yourself on the back if you drink diet soda. That stuff is even worse. Aspartame (an ingredient commonly found in diet sodas and other sugar-free foods) has been blamed for a slew of scary maladies, like arthritis, birth defects, fibromyalgia, Alzheimer’s, lupus, multiple sclerosis, and diabetes.2 When methyl alcohol, a component of aspartame, enters your body, it turns into formaldehyde. Formaldehyde is toxic and carcinogenic (cancer-causing). 3 Laboratory scientists use formaldehyde as a disinfectant or preservative. They don’t *kitten* drink it. Perhaps you have a lumpy *kitten* because you are preserving your fat cells with diet soda. The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has received more complaints about aspartame than any other ingredient to date.4 Want more bad news? When aspartame is paired with carbs, it causes your brain to slow down its production of serotonin.5 A healthy level of serotonin is needed to be happy and well balanced. So drinking soda can make you fat, sick, and unhappy.”
It goes on, I read the book and found the quote online. (Rory Freedman) The book is "Skinny *kitten*" Like I said I read it a few years ago. I never got into diet coke, so someone else's research may be more in depth than mine. When I decided to cut the soda, I just switched to water.
Thank god I'm a guy so this doesn't happen to me... sorry girls I hope you were braced for what just happened.
Does my leg brace count?
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that silly little saying has been around since high school. I never said it held any factual value, and it's been taken very literally. It's a SILLY little saying girls use. You know like the Kate Moss quote. I never intended it to be take so literally. I thought this was a common saying people were familiar with.0
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Never could stand the taste of any "diet" soda I tried, always had a weird tang. Water, unsweet tea (usually herbal), and whisky are pretty much all I drink these days and the whisky not so much. Maybe an orange juice, a Mexican coke (made with cane sugar), or a glass of wine on rare occasions.
I had a friend who used to avoid diet sodas because he said the aspartame turned to wood alcohol in the brain, seems like a good reason TO drink it lol but I never bothered to research as I just don't like the taste, plus he's the kind of guy that thinks we faked the moon landings so I don't get my science news from him. Given the amount of bacon cheeseburgers I wolf down I can't really judge other people for swilling something made by a bunch of lab coats and I have enough to worry about trying to get myself in shape let alone other people.
As far as "animals don't drink diet coke" I'm pretty sure if I set a bowl of it in front of my dog he'd lap it up, he doesn't have the most discriminating palate. You don't see animals drinking anti-freeze fluid naturally either but they will if you let them (does it really have to be said?... POISON ALERT DON'T DO THIS).8 -
Only real reason to avoid diet soda is that you don't like the taste or you prefer other drinks. Its not bad for you, its not good for you either. Its a treat if you like the taste and thats about it. If anything in it has an affect on you that potentially has some affect on your weight loss it'd be the caffeine content.6
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