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  • JB1775
    JB1775 Posts: 136 Member
    Is free will an illusion?
  • CoffeeAndContour
    CoffeeAndContour Posts: 1,466 Member
    bishop_ga03 wrote: »
    Is free will an illusion?

    Of course not.


    Now what comes later, is a different story.
  • JB1775
    JB1775 Posts: 136 Member
    CoffeeAndContour wrote: »
    bishop_ga03 wrote: »
    Is free will an illusion?

    Of course not.


    Now what comes later, is a different story.

    As in after life?
  • JB1775
    JB1775 Posts: 136 Member
    JustPassingTime wrote: »
    bishop_ga03 wrote: »
    Is free will an illusion?

    Depends which one are you asking about?

    I'm talking about the idea of free-will and whether or not we truly have it.
  • JB1775
    JB1775 Posts: 136 Member
    Ah I see. I'm not speaking on a spiritual level. I'm talking about here in the natural world.
  • Keep_on_cardio
    Keep_on_cardio Posts: 4,166 Member
    bishop_ga03 wrote: »
    Ah I see. I'm not speaking on a spiritual level. I'm talking about here in the natural world.

    No free will, unless you live a sheltered vanilla life.
  • Keep_on_cardio
    Keep_on_cardio Posts: 4,166 Member
    JustPassingTime wrote: »
    bishop_ga03 wrote: »
    Ah I see. I'm not speaking on a spiritual level. I'm talking about here in the natural world.

    In that case can i ask you this? Can you go out right now in your OWN backyard and start digging to build a pool without the proper permit? Or can you do anything without our government having their hands on it?

    😬 possibly if one lives off the grid 🤣

    (Starts digging an underworld)
  • JB1775
    JB1775 Posts: 136 Member
    JustPassingTime wrote: »
    bishop_ga03 wrote: »
    Ah I see. I'm not speaking on a spiritual level. I'm talking about here in the natural world.

    In that case can i ask you this? Can you go out right now in your OWN backyard and start digging to build a pool without the proper permit? Or can you do anything without our government having their hands on it?

    My question is based on psychological opinions. So to answer your questions, in this context, I sould say yes. I could do each of those. I may face consequences, but I can make the decision to act.
  • CoffeeAndContour
    CoffeeAndContour Posts: 1,466 Member
    bishop_ga03 wrote: »
    JustPassingTime wrote: »
    bishop_ga03 wrote: »
    Ah I see. I'm not speaking on a spiritual level. I'm talking about here in the natural world.

    In that case can i ask you this? Can you go out right now in your OWN backyard and start digging to build a pool without the proper permit? Or can you do anything without our government having their hands on it?

    My question is based on psychological opinions. So to answer your questions, in this context, I sould say yes. I could do each of those. I may face consequences, but I can make the decision to act.

    This was exactly what I meant.
  • JB1775
    JB1775 Posts: 136 Member
    CoffeeAndContour wrote: »
    bishop_ga03 wrote: »
    JustPassingTime wrote: »
    bishop_ga03 wrote: »
    Ah I see. I'm not speaking on a spiritual level. I'm talking about here in the natural world.

    In that case can i ask you this? Can you go out right now in your OWN backyard and start digging to build a pool without the proper permit? Or can you do anything without our government having their hands on it?

    My question is based on psychological opinions. So to answer your questions, in this context, I sould say yes. I could do each of those. I may face consequences, but I can make the decision to act.

    This was exactly what I meant.

    Yea I finally realized that after the fact lol. I misread your response. 🤙🏻
  • Keep_on_cardio
    Keep_on_cardio Posts: 4,166 Member
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  • JB1775
    JB1775 Posts: 136 Member
    JustPassingTime wrote: »
    bishop_ga03 wrote: »
    JustPassingTime wrote: »
    bishop_ga03 wrote: »
    Ah I see. I'm not speaking on a spiritual level. I'm talking about here in the natural world.

    In that case can i ask you this? Can you go out right now in your OWN backyard and start digging to build a pool without the proper permit? Or can you do anything without our government having their hands on it?

    My question is based on psychological opinions. So to answer your questions, in this context, I sould say yes. I could do each of those. I may face consequences, but I can make the decision to act.

    There you go its real to you then

    Yea it is. To an extent.
  • Cowsfan1
    Cowsfan1 Posts: 7,937 Member
    Keep_on_cardio wrote: »
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    I❤️you kid lol
  • Keep_on_cardio
    Keep_on_cardio Posts: 4,166 Member
    Cowsfan1 wrote: »
    Keep_on_cardio wrote: »
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    I❤️you kid lol

    😆 back at you ❤️
  • Cowsfan1
    Cowsfan1 Posts: 7,937 Member
    bishop_ga03 wrote: »
    JustPassingTime wrote: »
    bishop_ga03 wrote: »
    JustPassingTime wrote: »
    bishop_ga03 wrote: »
    Ah I see. I'm not speaking on a spiritual level. I'm talking about here in the natural world.

    In that case can i ask you this? Can you go out right now in your OWN backyard and start digging to build a pool without the proper permit? Or can you do anything without our government having their hands on it?

    My question is based on psychological opinions. So to answer your questions, in this context, I sould say yes. I could do each of those. I may face consequences, but I can make the decision to act.

    There you go its real to you then

    Yea it is. To an extent.

    To what extent ?? Where does it stop then?
  • JB1775
    JB1775 Posts: 136 Member
    edited April 2019
    Cowsfan1 wrote: »
    bishop_ga03 wrote: »
    JustPassingTime wrote: »
    bishop_ga03 wrote: »
    JustPassingTime wrote: »
    bishop_ga03 wrote: »
    Ah I see. I'm not speaking on a spiritual level. I'm talking about here in the natural world.

    In that case can i ask you this? Can you go out right now in your OWN backyard and start digging to build a pool without the proper permit? Or can you do anything without our government having their hands on it?

    My question is based on psychological opinions. So to answer your questions, in this context, I sould say yes. I could do each of those. I may face consequences, but I can make the decision to act.

    There you go its real to you then

    Yea it is. To an extent.

    To what extent ?? Where does it stop then?

    Reflexes for sure. Possibly strong emotional responses.
  • Cowsfan1
    Cowsfan1 Posts: 7,937 Member
    bishop_ga03 wrote: »
    Cowsfan1 wrote: »
    bishop_ga03 wrote: »
    JustPassingTime wrote: »
    bishop_ga03 wrote: »
    JustPassingTime wrote: »
    bishop_ga03 wrote: »
    Ah I see. I'm not speaking on a spiritual level. I'm talking about here in the natural world.

    In that case can i ask you this? Can you go out right now in your OWN backyard and start digging to build a pool without the proper permit? Or can you do anything without our government having their hands on it?

    My question is based on psychological opinions. So to answer your questions, in this context, I sould say yes. I could do each of those. I may face consequences, but I can make the decision to act.

    There you go its real to you then

    Yea it is. To an extent.

    To what extent ?? Where does it stop then?

    Reflexes for sure. Possibly strong emotional responses.

    Again just consequences to your own free will no? - so I guess the extent is left to each of us we have as much or less as we’re willing to pay the quote cost for - is that what you mean
  • JB1775
    JB1775 Posts: 136 Member
    JustPassingTime wrote: »
    bishop_ga03 wrote: »
    Cowsfan1 wrote: »
    bishop_ga03 wrote: »
    JustPassingTime wrote: »
    bishop_ga03 wrote: »
    JustPassingTime wrote: »
    bishop_ga03 wrote: »
    Ah I see. I'm not speaking on a spiritual level. I'm talking about here in the natural world.

    In that case can i ask you this? Can you go out right now in your OWN backyard and start digging to build a pool without the proper permit? Or can you do anything without our government having their hands on it?

    My question is based on psychological opinions. So to answer your questions, in this context, I sould say yes. I could do each of those. I may face consequences, but I can make the decision to act.

    There you go its real to you then

    Yea it is. To an extent.

    To what extent ?? Where does it stop then?

    Reflexes for sure. Possibly strong emotional responses.

    Do you think animals have free will? I define free will as free to choose act and think voluntarily.

    That's a tough one. I don't think animals have much rational capacity so I think they mostly act on instinct.
  • Cowsfan1
    Cowsfan1 Posts: 7,937 Member
    bishop_ga03 wrote: »
    JustPassingTime wrote: »
    bishop_ga03 wrote: »
    Cowsfan1 wrote: »
    bishop_ga03 wrote: »
    JustPassingTime wrote: »
    bishop_ga03 wrote: »
    JustPassingTime wrote: »
    bishop_ga03 wrote: »
    Ah I see. I'm not speaking on a spiritual level. I'm talking about here in the natural world.

    In that case can i ask you this? Can you go out right now in your OWN backyard and start digging to build a pool without the proper permit? Or can you do anything without our government having their hands on it?

    My question is based on psychological opinions. So to answer your questions, in this context, I sould say yes. I could do each of those. I may face consequences, but I can make the decision to act.

    There you go its real to you then

    Yea it is. To an extent.

    To what extent ?? Where does it stop then?

    Reflexes for sure. Possibly strong emotional responses.

    Do you think animals have free will? I define free will as free to choose act and think voluntarily.

    That's a tough one. I don't think animals have much rational capacity so I think they mostly act on instinct.

    Are we talking all animals?? Or just wild? Cause pets really are subject to their owners will right?
  • JB1775
    JB1775 Posts: 136 Member
    Cowsfan1 wrote: »
    bishop_ga03 wrote: »
    Cowsfan1 wrote: »
    bishop_ga03 wrote: »
    JustPassingTime wrote: »
    bishop_ga03 wrote: »
    JustPassingTime wrote: »
    bishop_ga03 wrote: »
    Ah I see. I'm not speaking on a spiritual level. I'm talking about here in the natural world.

    In that case can i ask you this? Can you go out right now in your OWN backyard and start digging to build a pool without the proper permit? Or can you do anything without our government having their hands on it?

    My question is based on psychological opinions. So to answer your questions, in this context, I sould say yes. I could do each of those. I may face consequences, but I can make the decision to act.

    There you go its real to you then

    Yea it is. To an extent.

    To what extent ?? Where does it stop then?

    Reflexes for sure. Possibly strong emotional responses.

    Again just consequences to your own free will no? - so I guess the extent is left to each of us we have as much or less as we’re willing to pay the quote cost for - is that what you mean

    We're barring any consequences here. We all agree there are consequences. The question is whether or not we can act voluntarily. I'm referring to the act itself. As far as reflexes go, if someone startles you, you'll react in some manner. Chances are, you won't have time to think about and decide how to respond; you just do. I think at that point free will is decreased, if not thrown out the window if only for a moment.

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