What's on your mind?
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IslandGal3 wrote: »My mom...she's very sick.
Sorry to hear this Jenni, sending love , hugs and positive thoughts... ❤1 -
Minion_training_program wrote: »If you could become immortal on the condition you would NEVER be able to die or kill yourself, would you choose immortality?
Interesting thought experiment..
At my current age (38) I feel like I have no concept of time for how long I’ve lived. It doesn’t feel like it’s been very long; it also feels like ages. I feel like living forever would be similar. In some ways you’re just living day to day like everyone else and the days and years blur together, which may mean you never hit a point where you feel like you’ve lived too long. I’m no more welcoming of death now than I was when I was 18 despite having lived an additional 20 full years. I wonder if the only reason people ever really welcome death is because their situation has forced them to accept its immediate inevitability.
Wait, are we aging normally or is aging halted as well?
Since death is my #1 fear (mine or a loved one’s) then being immortal would eliminate part of that fear. I would probably live life with less fear and more risks, although pain is always an ever-present threat I suppose. But I wouldn’t have the anxiety that comes with every weird new symptom or strange lump.
Being immortal probably wouldn’t make me any more aware that my loved ones will die than I already am, but I would have to come to terms with the fact that I’ll have to be there to witness it. The only bright side to that is knowing that they will never have to die alone in a hospital or nursing home, they’ll have me by their side.
I’d never have to die alone either.
Being immortal might present the opportunity to know more than one or two great lifetime loves. Maybe there could be many. Maybe the joys could outweigh the sorrows of ultimately losing them all.
Interesting to consider
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Minion_training_program wrote: »If you could become immortal on the condition you would NEVER be able to die or kill yourself, would you choose immortality?
Interesting thought experiment..
At my current age (38) I feel like I have no concept of time for how long I’ve lived. It doesn’t feel like it’s been very long; it also feels like ages. I feel like living forever would be similar. In some ways you’re just living day to day like everyone else and the days and years blur together, which may mean you never hit a point where you feel like you’ve lived too long. I’m no more welcoming of death now than I was when I was 18 despite having lived an additional 20 full years. I wonder if the only reason people ever really welcome death is because their situation has forced them to accept its immediate inevitability.
Wait, are we aging normally or is aging halted as well?
Since death is my #1 fear (mine or a loved one’s) then being immortal would eliminate part of that fear. I would probably live life with less fear and more risks, although pain is always an ever-present threat I suppose. But I wouldn’t have the anxiety that comes with every weird new symptom or strange lump.
Being immortal probably wouldn’t make me any more aware that my loved ones will die than I already am, but I would have to come to terms with the fact that I’ll have to be there to witness it. The only bright side to that is knowing that they will never have to die alone in a hospital or nursing home, they’ll have me by their side.
I’d never have to die alone either.
Being immortal might present the opportunity to know more than one or two great lifetime loves. Maybe there could be many. Maybe the joys could outweigh the sorrows of ultimately losing them all.
Interesting to consider
that brain of yours...... it's always working, isn't it?
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Minion_training_program wrote: »If you could become immortal on the condition you would NEVER be able to die or kill yourself, would you choose immortality?
idk first u have to tell me what happens when we die3 -
sweet_ermengarde wrote: »Minion_training_program wrote: »If you could become immortal on the condition you would NEVER be able to die or kill yourself, would you choose immortality?
idk first u have to tell me what happens when we die
Brilliant answer. That *would* change some of our answers now, wouldn't it??
Speaking of that, I've never told anyone this, no one at all. Watching my BIL go through his end-of-life experiences has given me many opportunities to relive times when my parents were going through it. I wasn't with my mom when she died but I was across the room from my dad in the hospital when he died. They had set up a recliner so I could stay 24/7. It was around 10:30 at night and I had just drifted off to sleep when something jolted me awake. I happened to look over at my dad and he took his last breath as I watched. Then almost immediately I saw this vapor leave him; I ended up bolting out of the room and crying for the nurse.
Kind of curious if anyone else has experienced something similar? Or was it my imagination?
I don't know what I believe as far as spirits, life ever-after, or any of that but I do think I saw what I saw. Maybe.
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Minion_training_program wrote: »If you could become immortal on the condition you would NEVER be able to die or kill yourself, would you choose immortality?
Being immortal probably wouldn’t make me any more aware that my loved ones will die than I already am, but I would have to come to terms with the fact that I’ll have to be there to witness it. The only bright side to that is knowing that they will never have to die alone in a hospital or nursing home, they’ll have me by their side.
I’d never have to die alone either.
Being immortal might present the opportunity to know more than one or two great lifetime loves. Maybe there could be many. Maybe the joys could outweigh the sorrows of ultimately losing them all.
Interesting to consider
Keep in mind that with the human minds limited capacity for memory, you would eventually completely forget those people you loved ever existed. After long enough, every memory stored in your neural network would be replaced and lost forever. So while your physical body may be immortal, the entity you view as your self would fade away completely.3 -
stevehenderson776 wrote: »Minion_training_program wrote: »If you could become immortal on the condition you would NEVER be able to die or kill yourself, would you choose immortality?
Being immortal probably wouldn’t make me any more aware that my loved ones will die than I already am, but I would have to come to terms with the fact that I’ll have to be there to witness it. The only bright side to that is knowing that they will never have to die alone in a hospital or nursing home, they’ll have me by their side.
I’d never have to die alone either.
Being immortal might present the opportunity to know more than one or two great lifetime loves. Maybe there could be many. Maybe the joys could outweigh the sorrows of ultimately losing them all.
Interesting to consider
Keep in mind that with the human minds limited capacity for memory, you would eventually completely forget those people you loved ever existed. After long enough, every memory stored in your neural network would be replaced and lost forever. So while your physical body may be immortal, the entity you view as your self would fade away completely.
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stevehenderson776 wrote: »Minion_training_program wrote: »If you could become immortal on the condition you would NEVER be able to die or kill yourself, would you choose immortality?
Being immortal probably wouldn’t make me any more aware that my loved ones will die than I already am, but I would have to come to terms with the fact that I’ll have to be there to witness it. The only bright side to that is knowing that they will never have to die alone in a hospital or nursing home, they’ll have me by their side.
I’d never have to die alone either.
Being immortal might present the opportunity to know more than one or two great lifetime loves. Maybe there could be many. Maybe the joys could outweigh the sorrows of ultimately losing them all.
Interesting to consider
Keep in mind that with the human minds limited capacity for memory, you would eventually completely forget those people you loved ever existed. After long enough, every memory stored in your neural network would be replaced and lost forever. So while your physical body may be immortal, the entity you view as your self would fade away completely.
See, that makes it already not worth it. Not because I would eventually lose the capacity to remember people or things I cared about, but because that would be a massive loss of accumulated knowledge. The only real reason I would ever want to be immortal is to continue learning and doing new things. What's the point if I'm going to forget it 500 years down the road anyway? No thanks.1 -
stevehenderson776 wrote: »Minion_training_program wrote: »If you could become immortal on the condition you would NEVER be able to die or kill yourself, would you choose immortality?
Being immortal probably wouldn’t make me any more aware that my loved ones will die than I already am, but I would have to come to terms with the fact that I’ll have to be there to witness it. The only bright side to that is knowing that they will never have to die alone in a hospital or nursing home, they’ll have me by their side.
I’d never have to die alone either.
Being immortal might present the opportunity to know more than one or two great lifetime loves. Maybe there could be many. Maybe the joys could outweigh the sorrows of ultimately losing them all.
Interesting to consider
Keep in mind that with the human minds limited capacity for memory, you would eventually completely forget those people you loved ever existed. After long enough, every memory stored in your neural network would be replaced and lost forever. So while your physical body may be immortal, the entity you view as your self would fade away completely.
Yeah, but what if our immortality brought along with it an immortal memory?1 -
stevehenderson776 wrote: »Minion_training_program wrote: »If you could become immortal on the condition you would NEVER be able to die or kill yourself, would you choose immortality?
Being immortal probably wouldn’t make me any more aware that my loved ones will die than I already am, but I would have to come to terms with the fact that I’ll have to be there to witness it. The only bright side to that is knowing that they will never have to die alone in a hospital or nursing home, they’ll have me by their side.
I’d never have to die alone either.
Being immortal might present the opportunity to know more than one or two great lifetime loves. Maybe there could be many. Maybe the joys could outweigh the sorrows of ultimately losing them all.
Interesting to consider
Keep in mind that with the human minds limited capacity for memory, you would eventually completely forget those people you loved ever existed. After long enough, every memory stored in your neural network would be replaced and lost forever. So while your physical body may be immortal, the entity you view as your self would fade away completely.
The human mind is only limited becuase of age deterioration. If that is no longer a factor, and your mind is as sharp at 300 yrs old as it was at 30......you will never forget. Not to mention there will be generation after generation of losses......there will always be fresh bitter memories.4 -
stevehenderson776 wrote: »Minion_training_program wrote: »If you could become immortal on the condition you would NEVER be able to die or kill yourself, would you choose immortality?
Being immortal probably wouldn’t make me any more aware that my loved ones will die than I already am, but I would have to come to terms with the fact that I’ll have to be there to witness it. The only bright side to that is knowing that they will never have to die alone in a hospital or nursing home, they’ll have me by their side.
I’d never have to die alone either.
Being immortal might present the opportunity to know more than one or two great lifetime loves. Maybe there could be many. Maybe the joys could outweigh the sorrows of ultimately losing them all.
Interesting to consider
Keep in mind that with the human minds limited capacity for memory, you would eventually completely forget those people you loved ever existed. After long enough, every memory stored in your neural network would be replaced and lost forever. So while your physical body may be immortal, the entity you view as your self would fade away completely.
The human mind is only limited becuase of age deterioration. If that is no longer a factor, and your mind is as sharp at 300 yrs old as it was at 30......you will never forget. Not to mention there will be generation after generation of losses......there will always be fresh bitter memories.
The human mind is limited by the number of neurons in the human brain.3 -
stevehenderson776 wrote: »Minion_training_program wrote: »If you could become immortal on the condition you would NEVER be able to die or kill yourself, would you choose immortality?
Being immortal probably wouldn’t make me any more aware that my loved ones will die than I already am, but I would have to come to terms with the fact that I’ll have to be there to witness it. The only bright side to that is knowing that they will never have to die alone in a hospital or nursing home, they’ll have me by their side.
I’d never have to die alone either.
Being immortal might present the opportunity to know more than one or two great lifetime loves. Maybe there could be many. Maybe the joys could outweigh the sorrows of ultimately losing them all.
Interesting to consider
Keep in mind that with the human minds limited capacity for memory, you would eventually completely forget those people you loved ever existed. After long enough, every memory stored in your neural network would be replaced and lost forever. So while your physical body may be immortal, the entity you view as your self would fade away completely.
The human mind is only limited becuase of age deterioration. If that is no longer a factor, and your mind is as sharp at 300 yrs old as it was at 30......you will never forget. Not to mention there will be generation after generation of losses......there will always be fresh bitter memories.
If a USB drive were to remain completely serviceable for the next billion years and 1 byte of information per second was written to it, it would become full and overwritten. The same for the human mind, we are only able to recall so much, just being a biological storage device doesnt give us infinite memory recall. That being said, you may remember your first love after that memory should have been over written because youve given that memory a certain priority or importance. Your memories could almost become a random collection of important events that make no sense together.4 -
stevehenderson776 wrote: »stevehenderson776 wrote: »Minion_training_program wrote: »If you could become immortal on the condition you would NEVER be able to die or kill yourself, would you choose immortality?
Being immortal probably wouldn’t make me any more aware that my loved ones will die than I already am, but I would have to come to terms with the fact that I’ll have to be there to witness it. The only bright side to that is knowing that they will never have to die alone in a hospital or nursing home, they’ll have me by their side.
I’d never have to die alone either.
Being immortal might present the opportunity to know more than one or two great lifetime loves. Maybe there could be many. Maybe the joys could outweigh the sorrows of ultimately losing them all.
Interesting to consider
Keep in mind that with the human minds limited capacity for memory, you would eventually completely forget those people you loved ever existed. After long enough, every memory stored in your neural network would be replaced and lost forever. So while your physical body may be immortal, the entity you view as your self would fade away completely.
The human mind is only limited becuase of age deterioration. If that is no longer a factor, and your mind is as sharp at 300 yrs old as it was at 30......you will never forget. Not to mention there will be generation after generation of losses......there will always be fresh bitter memories.
The human mind is limited by the number of neurons in the human brain.
Fair enough.....but it doesnt change that for every memory forgotten new ones will replace it. The memory of your child that you must witness die in this generation will only be replaced by your child you must witness dying in the next. Or, you can choose to avoid close relationships and having family....and that in itself is its own brand of misery.4 -
KickassAmazon76 wrote: »stevehenderson776 wrote: »Minion_training_program wrote: »If you could become immortal on the condition you would NEVER be able to die or kill yourself, would you choose immortality?
Being immortal probably wouldn’t make me any more aware that my loved ones will die than I already am, but I would have to come to terms with the fact that I’ll have to be there to witness it. The only bright side to that is knowing that they will never have to die alone in a hospital or nursing home, they’ll have me by their side.
I’d never have to die alone either.
Being immortal might present the opportunity to know more than one or two great lifetime loves. Maybe there could be many. Maybe the joys could outweigh the sorrows of ultimately losing them all.
Interesting to consider
Keep in mind that with the human minds limited capacity for memory, you would eventually completely forget those people you loved ever existed. After long enough, every memory stored in your neural network would be replaced and lost forever. So while your physical body may be immortal, the entity you view as your self would fade away completely.
Yeah, but what if our immortality brought along with it an immortal memory?
Well that's all well and good until you're chained to a rock with an eagle eating your liver every day.4 -
stevehenderson776 wrote: »KickassAmazon76 wrote: »stevehenderson776 wrote: »Minion_training_program wrote: »If you could become immortal on the condition you would NEVER be able to die or kill yourself, would you choose immortality?
Being immortal probably wouldn’t make me any more aware that my loved ones will die than I already am, but I would have to come to terms with the fact that I’ll have to be there to witness it. The only bright side to that is knowing that they will never have to die alone in a hospital or nursing home, they’ll have me by their side.
I’d never have to die alone either.
Being immortal might present the opportunity to know more than one or two great lifetime loves. Maybe there could be many. Maybe the joys could outweigh the sorrows of ultimately losing them all.
Interesting to consider
Keep in mind that with the human minds limited capacity for memory, you would eventually completely forget those people you loved ever existed. After long enough, every memory stored in your neural network would be replaced and lost forever. So while your physical body may be immortal, the entity you view as your self would fade away completely.
Yeah, but what if our immortality brought along with it an immortal memory?
Well that's all well and good until you're chained to a rock with an eagle eating your liver every day.
Or pushing that boulder up the hill.2 -
stevehenderson776 wrote: »stevehenderson776 wrote: »Minion_training_program wrote: »If you could become immortal on the condition you would NEVER be able to die or kill yourself, would you choose immortality?
Being immortal probably wouldn’t make me any more aware that my loved ones will die than I already am, but I would have to come to terms with the fact that I’ll have to be there to witness it. The only bright side to that is knowing that they will never have to die alone in a hospital or nursing home, they’ll have me by their side.
I’d never have to die alone either.
Being immortal might present the opportunity to know more than one or two great lifetime loves. Maybe there could be many. Maybe the joys could outweigh the sorrows of ultimately losing them all.
Interesting to consider
Keep in mind that with the human minds limited capacity for memory, you would eventually completely forget those people you loved ever existed. After long enough, every memory stored in your neural network would be replaced and lost forever. So while your physical body may be immortal, the entity you view as your self would fade away completely.
The human mind is only limited becuase of age deterioration. If that is no longer a factor, and your mind is as sharp at 300 yrs old as it was at 30......you will never forget. Not to mention there will be generation after generation of losses......there will always be fresh bitter memories.
The human mind is limited by the number of neurons in the human brain.
Fair enough.....but it doesnt change that for every memory forgotten new ones will replace it. The memory of your child that you must witness die in this generation will only be replaced by your child you must witness dying in the next. Or, you can choose to avoid close relationships and having family....and that in itself is its own brand of misery.
Well sure. That's what I was saying. If you're of the school of thought that what makes the person is that person's experiences, then forgetting every experience that makes you you would be the death of the self even if the physical body lives on. Your psyche would be lost with a new one in its place.1 -
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stevehenderson776 wrote: »Minion_training_program wrote: »If you could become immortal on the condition you would NEVER be able to die or kill yourself, would you choose immortality?
Being immortal probably wouldn’t make me any more aware that my loved ones will die than I already am, but I would have to come to terms with the fact that I’ll have to be there to witness it. The only bright side to that is knowing that they will never have to die alone in a hospital or nursing home, they’ll have me by their side.
I’d never have to die alone either.
Being immortal might present the opportunity to know more than one or two great lifetime loves. Maybe there could be many. Maybe the joys could outweigh the sorrows of ultimately losing them all.
Interesting to consider
Keep in mind that with the human minds limited capacity for memory, you would eventually completely forget those people you loved ever existed. After long enough, every memory stored in your neural network would be replaced and lost forever. So while your physical body may be immortal, the entity you view as your self would fade away completely.
I’m not sure I believe this is how it would work.. the mind’s limitations on its capability to store new memories has never really been tested. Would some things be forgotten? Of course. But you don’t remember what you’ve forgotten so that can’t hurt you. And the most meaningful things will have such beaten down neural connections that they’d be impossible to overwrite imo
Plus, the longer you live, the more practice you’d have at learning new coping mechanisms for handling difficult memories. And as time marches on, those things would become a blur along with the good memories.
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Supposedly, there is a wee hurricane headed this way. I remain skeptical, mostly because they've said that numerous times this year and it always seems to veer off toward the LA/TX border (poor them!). Aaaaand at worst, so far.. this is predicted to be a Cat 1, which isn't too bad to sit through.2
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KosmosKitten wrote: »Supposedly, there is a wee hurricane headed this way. I remain skeptical, mostly because they've said that numerous times this year and it always seems to veer off toward the LA/TX border (poor them!). Aaaaand at worst, so far.. this is predicted to be a Cat 1, which isn't too bad to sit through.
Be safe. We’ve got more back and forth banter to attend to. 🙂0 -
brustmannzwei wrote: »KosmosKitten wrote: »Supposedly, there is a wee hurricane headed this way. I remain skeptical, mostly because they've said that numerous times this year and it always seems to veer off toward the LA/TX border (poor them!). Aaaaand at worst, so far.. this is predicted to be a Cat 1, which isn't too bad to sit through.
Be safe. We’ve got more back and forth banter to attend to. 🙂
Heh, I'll be surprised if 1.) this this actually comes here like they predict it will and 2.) it actually manages to knock out my power. So chances are, I'd still be around. Everything here is closed/locked down already in preparation, so I can't even go anywhere.
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@Revolu7 Someone out there in the living room needs help. Hope you don't mind, I'm going to tag you. 0
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KosmosKitten wrote: »brustmannzwei wrote: »KosmosKitten wrote: »Supposedly, there is a wee hurricane headed this way. I remain skeptical, mostly because they've said that numerous times this year and it always seems to veer off toward the LA/TX border (poor them!). Aaaaand at worst, so far.. this is predicted to be a Cat 1, which isn't too bad to sit through.
Be safe. We’ve got more back and forth banter to attend to. 🙂
Heh, I'll be surprised if 1.) this this actually comes here like they predict it will and 2.) it actually manages to knock out my power. So chances are, I'd still be around. Everything here is closed/locked down already in preparation, so I can't even go anywhere.
I had issues with lightning knocking out power and blowing the fuses to my well pump. Took 3 times before my insurance followed the electricians recommendations and replaced the fuses with breakers.
Now, imma have fuses again but to the entire house. The mains in are 600 amps. Good lawd they cost a small fortune but should never blow.
600 amps split to 3 200 amp panels. Imma have a full 200 amp dedicated to my workshop. 🤙🏼2 -
Laughing because an mfp friend sent me a video on ig that reminded her of me, but what she didn’t know is that the girl in the video was my cousin’s wife. Completely happened by chance ☺️7
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I am in such a slump. Every time I seem to start making gains, I get hurt. Knee, ankle, shoulder, back. I am freaking falling apart. (Thank you 40s)
I used to love running, but my knees and ankles don't let me anymore. My quest to complete 250 miles this summer (which I completed) killed my ankle and now I can't even hit 6k steps til that heals.
I may try to get back into lifting, but I'm just struggling so hard to find motivation. I have been there/done that on logging food and exercise (and had the 6pack to show for it), but over the past three years, I've found 15 pounds, and lost any progress I gained.
My problem is caring enough to do it again. I don't like how I feel, I oscillate between - hey you STILL look great - and - gawd I feel horrendous - but I just don't have the energy to fight.
It's just... eff all this stress. Ya know?7 -
KickassAmazon76 wrote: »I am in such a slump. Every time I seem to start making gains, I get hurt. Knee, ankle, shoulder, back. I am freaking falling apart. (Thank you 40s)
I used to love running, but my knees and ankles don't let me anymore. My quest to complete 250 miles this summer (which I completed) killed my ankle and now I can't even hit 6k steps til that heals.
I may try to get back into lifting, but I'm just struggling so hard to find motivation. I have been there/done that on logging food and exercise (and had the 6pack to show for it), but over the past three years, I've found 15 pounds, and lost any progress I gained.
My problem is caring enough to do it again. I don't like how I feel, I oscillate between - hey you STILL look great - and - gawd I feel horrendous - but I just don't have the energy to fight.
It's just... eff all this stress. Ya know?
Totally feel your pain, I have a laundry list of injuries that seem to happen just as I'm getting back in the saddle. We just gotta keep on fighting the good fight.
Hope you get back on track soon.3 -
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