Is It Over Yet? The Perimenopause Thread

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  • jgnatca
    jgnatca Posts: 14,464 Member
    I don't think I want to follow my maternal grandmother. She died in a mental asylum in her thirties.

    My sister who is just eighteen months younger than me and practically my physiological twin, had a hysterectomy so I don't want to follow her either.

    Fifteen years ago I had my uterine lining ablated which took care of the heavy periods. I still lean towards anemia so it's iron pills for me.

    I am post menopausal now for about a year. It took long enough. Hot flashes are either calming down or I am getting used to them; every two hours like clockwork. Hair coarsened rather than thinned. Considering I started with very fine hair I'd say what I have now is an improvement.

    I was worried about my memory lapses I thought I had a tumour or something then my smart boss told me about her "baby brain". Oh, duh. Just hormonal brain.

    Overall, I came through pretty well unscathed. Weight loss may be a little more stubborn but CICO still applies. I have to wait a full monthly cycle to know what my real weight loss was.

    I may have more aches and pains but I also have the maturity to avoid serious injury.
  • jgnatca
    jgnatca Posts: 14,464 Member
    Oh yeah. I got a bone scan this week so I'll find out how I am doing in that department.
  • GottaBurnEmAll
    GottaBurnEmAll Posts: 7,722 Member
    enuf200 wrote: »
    I've read about going on low dose birth control pills to help with symptoms such as heavy periods and cramps, bloating?

    My mother did that to help with all the other symptoms and they just kept her periods coming and coming. The month she stopped taking them was her very last period.

    It's a catch 22 going the hormone route with all of this.

    I opted to let things take their own course after her experience.
  • Misnomer971
    Misnomer971 Posts: 104 Member
    Machka9 wrote: »
    I had one of my biggest, baddest hot flashes yet yesterday. I had done a 60 km, hilly bicycle ride to practice hill climbing and was a bit dehydrated. Plus I should have had some electrolytes. We'd gone out to a party and while I was standing there talking to people all of a sudden I went white (my husband said), I was drenched in sweat and felt like someone had cranked the heat up to 40 degrees, and became really dizzy and a bit nauseated. I had to sit down. The main flash was over in about 10 min, but the dizziness and nausea stuck around a while.
    OMG! Luckily my flashes have not had any accompanying dizziness or nausea. They are just sudden waves of intense heat, with body sweats. I turn into a human heater for about a minute. I certainly hope you never experience a flash that severe again!

  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 28,052 Member
    try2again wrote: »
    ahoy_m8 wrote: »
    try2again wrote: »
    ahoy_m8 wrote: »
    kshama2001 wrote: »
    ahoy_m8 wrote: »
    Thank you for this thread. LAWoman, you are hilarious!

    I am wondering what's up. I turn 52 in days and have never missed a period. Never had a FSH test -- not indicated; but weird stuff is going on.
    1) cold flashes.... it feels like hormonal thermal disregulation where I just cannot get my core temp up 24 hr before period starts. I'm cold generally, but this is different, to the bone cold. I dream of hot flashes.
    2) excess prostaglandins last month. What a pain. Haven't had that since my early 20's when my doc put me on BC to regulate that.
    3) 2 months before that, I had a freak 4lb bloat with back&ab pain. Didn't recognize myself in the mirror. It was so atypical for me, I went to GP after a week. Many tests. Clean bill of health. Big bill from radiologist. Embarrassed it was all about nothing (although metastasized liver cancer crossed my mind given pain location). Resolved upon ovulation.
    4) I have charted since 2008--mean, mode, variance, standard deviation. Went from 28 days like clockwork to 26 day average with greater variance. Like Sued0, I'm bored with periods. Ready for this show to be over.

    LAWoman, I feel you. Maybe a cup of holiday Sleigh Ride tea? I wish I had more to offer. (((hug)))

    @ahoy_m8 Can you elaborate on excess prostaglandins? What are the symptoms of this? What did you do for it?

    Prostaglandins cause inflammation, contraction and pain. Any organ can synthesize them, as I understand it, and they are involved in monthly uterine shedding and also uterine contractions in labor. In excess, they cause inflammation, pain & contraction in other muscles, i.e. bowels.... so diarrhea, nausea, lightheadedness. I take 4 advil at once and then 2 more 6 hours later. When I was in my 20's, my OB advised BC to regulate that, and it worked.

    How is this diagnosed? Is it a blood test?

    In my case, no. It was after the actual episode, and my GYN diagnosed based on symptoms I described. Also, my understanding is that it would be uncommon (and not good) for prostaglandins to be in the blood stream. Unlike hormones synthesized in one organ (e.g. pituitary gland) that travel via blood to other tissues, prostaglandins are synthesized locally and ideally don't travel. Maybe someone more knowledgeable can clarify.
    ahoy_m8 wrote: »
    try2again wrote: »
    ahoy_m8 wrote: »
    kshama2001 wrote: »
    ahoy_m8 wrote: »
    Thank you for this thread. LAWoman, you are hilarious!

    I am wondering what's up. I turn 52 in days and have never missed a period. Never had a FSH test -- not indicated; but weird stuff is going on.
    1) cold flashes.... it feels like hormonal thermal disregulation where I just cannot get my core temp up 24 hr before period starts. I'm cold generally, but this is different, to the bone cold. I dream of hot flashes.
    2) excess prostaglandins last month. What a pain. Haven't had that since my early 20's when my doc put me on BC to regulate that.
    3) 2 months before that, I had a freak 4lb bloat with back&ab pain. Didn't recognize myself in the mirror. It was so atypical for me, I went to GP after a week. Many tests. Clean bill of health. Big bill from radiologist. Embarrassed it was all about nothing (although metastasized liver cancer crossed my mind given pain location). Resolved upon ovulation.
    4) I have charted since 2008--mean, mode, variance, standard deviation. Went from 28 days like clockwork to 26 day average with greater variance. Like Sued0, I'm bored with periods. Ready for this show to be over.

    LAWoman, I feel you. Maybe a cup of holiday Sleigh Ride tea? I wish I had more to offer. (((hug)))

    @ahoy_m8 Can you elaborate on excess prostaglandins? What are the symptoms of this? What did you do for it?

    Prostaglandins cause inflammation, contraction and pain. Any organ can synthesize them, as I understand it, and they are involved in monthly uterine shedding and also uterine contractions in labor. In excess, they cause inflammation, pain & contraction in other muscles, i.e. bowels.... so diarrhea, nausea, lightheadedness. I take 4 advil at once and then 2 more 6 hours later. When I was in my 20's, my OB advised BC to regulate that, and it worked.

    How is this diagnosed? Is it a blood test?

    In my case, no. It was after the actual episode, and my GYN diagnosed based on symptoms I described.

    Hmm... with those types of symptoms, seems like you would have to be subjected to every test under the sun to rule out a lot of other things before any mention of prostaglandins. :(

    According to Dr Christiane Northrup in "Women's Bodies, Women's Wisdom", "beginning in the late 70's, studies have shown that women with cramps have high levels of the hormone prostaglandin F2 alpha."

    So while issues with prostaglandins may sound unusual to you, it's actually not :)

    I seem to recall high levels of prostaglandins also being associated with heavy bleeding, but the references in the book's index all go to cramps/PMS and I don't have the time to dig deeper.
  • Sabine_Stroehm
    Sabine_Stroehm Posts: 19,263 Member
    I am going to add, while I'm not "happy" about any symptoms others may have I am glad to see vertigo mentioned so much. I thought something was medically wrong with me for a very long time. I have found that this is the worst nearing my period. Aside for making sure to stay hydrated as inadequate fluids seem to make it worse, I find some simple neck stretches help a lot. I don't know if it's a psychological thing or if it really does something aside from obviously relaxing the neck muscles, but it helps me.

    I'm sort of surprised it's mentioned LESS in the mainstream media because most menopausal women I know has some sort of vertigo/off balance/light headed/weird headed feeling
  • Sabine_Stroehm
    Sabine_Stroehm Posts: 19,263 Member
    try2again wrote: »
    ahoy_m8 wrote: »
    3) 2 months before that, I had a freak 4lb bloat with back&ab pain. Didn't recognize myself in the mirror. It was so atypical for me, I went to GP after a week. Many tests. Clean bill of health. Big bill from radiologist. Embarrassed it was all about nothing (although metastasized liver cancer crossed my mind given pain location). Resolved upon ovulation.

    Wondering if anyone else is/has experienced these kind of symptoms with peri? I've started having episodes like this as well, after a lifetime of uneventful periods. Also, any bowel issues?

    I had it two or three times and doc said it was ovarian cysts "resolving". Hurt like hell.
  • I am going to add, while I'm not "happy" about any symptoms others may have I am glad to see vertigo mentioned so much. I thought something was medically wrong with me for a very long time. I have found that this is the worst nearing my period. Aside for making sure to stay hydrated as inadequate fluids seem to make it worse, I find some simple neck stretches help a lot. I don't know if it's a psychological thing or if it really does something aside from obviously relaxing the neck muscles, but it helps me.

    I'm sort of surprised it's mentioned LESS in the mainstream media because most menopausal women I know has some sort of vertigo/off balance/light headed/weird headed feeling

    It's almost as if they WANT to keep us guessing! I especially hate it when doctors are so dismissive about these female issues. We deserve to be taken seriously.
  • try2again
    try2again Posts: 3,562 Member
    kshama2001 wrote: »
    try2again wrote: »
    ahoy_m8 wrote: »
    try2again wrote: »
    ahoy_m8 wrote: »
    kshama2001 wrote: »
    ahoy_m8 wrote: »
    Thank you for this thread. LAWoman, you are hilarious!

    I am wondering what's up. I turn 52 in days and have never missed a period. Never had a FSH test -- not indicated; but weird stuff is going on.
    1) cold flashes.... it feels like hormonal thermal disregulation where I just cannot get my core temp up 24 hr before period starts. I'm cold generally, but this is different, to the bone cold. I dream of hot flashes.
    2) excess prostaglandins last month. What a pain. Haven't had that since my early 20's when my doc put me on BC to regulate that.
    3) 2 months before that, I had a freak 4lb bloat with back&ab pain. Didn't recognize myself in the mirror. It was so atypical for me, I went to GP after a week. Many tests. Clean bill of health. Big bill from radiologist. Embarrassed it was all about nothing (although metastasized liver cancer crossed my mind given pain location). Resolved upon ovulation.
    4) I have charted since 2008--mean, mode, variance, standard deviation. Went from 28 days like clockwork to 26 day average with greater variance. Like Sued0, I'm bored with periods. Ready for this show to be over.

    LAWoman, I feel you. Maybe a cup of holiday Sleigh Ride tea? I wish I had more to offer. (((hug)))

    @ahoy_m8 Can you elaborate on excess prostaglandins? What are the symptoms of this? What did you do for it?

    Prostaglandins cause inflammation, contraction and pain. Any organ can synthesize them, as I understand it, and they are involved in monthly uterine shedding and also uterine contractions in labor. In excess, they cause inflammation, pain & contraction in other muscles, i.e. bowels.... so diarrhea, nausea, lightheadedness. I take 4 advil at once and then 2 more 6 hours later. When I was in my 20's, my OB advised BC to regulate that, and it worked.

    How is this diagnosed? Is it a blood test?

    In my case, no. It was after the actual episode, and my GYN diagnosed based on symptoms I described. Also, my understanding is that it would be uncommon (and not good) for prostaglandins to be in the blood stream. Unlike hormones synthesized in one organ (e.g. pituitary gland) that travel via blood to other tissues, prostaglandins are synthesized locally and ideally don't travel. Maybe someone more knowledgeable can clarify.
    ahoy_m8 wrote: »
    try2again wrote: »
    ahoy_m8 wrote: »
    kshama2001 wrote: »
    ahoy_m8 wrote: »
    Thank you for this thread. LAWoman, you are hilarious!

    I am wondering what's up. I turn 52 in days and have never missed a period. Never had a FSH test -- not indicated; but weird stuff is going on.
    1) cold flashes.... it feels like hormonal thermal disregulation where I just cannot get my core temp up 24 hr before period starts. I'm cold generally, but this is different, to the bone cold. I dream of hot flashes.
    2) excess prostaglandins last month. What a pain. Haven't had that since my early 20's when my doc put me on BC to regulate that.
    3) 2 months before that, I had a freak 4lb bloat with back&ab pain. Didn't recognize myself in the mirror. It was so atypical for me, I went to GP after a week. Many tests. Clean bill of health. Big bill from radiologist. Embarrassed it was all about nothing (although metastasized liver cancer crossed my mind given pain location). Resolved upon ovulation.
    4) I have charted since 2008--mean, mode, variance, standard deviation. Went from 28 days like clockwork to 26 day average with greater variance. Like Sued0, I'm bored with periods. Ready for this show to be over.

    LAWoman, I feel you. Maybe a cup of holiday Sleigh Ride tea? I wish I had more to offer. (((hug)))

    @ahoy_m8 Can you elaborate on excess prostaglandins? What are the symptoms of this? What did you do for it?

    Prostaglandins cause inflammation, contraction and pain. Any organ can synthesize them, as I understand it, and they are involved in monthly uterine shedding and also uterine contractions in labor. In excess, they cause inflammation, pain & contraction in other muscles, i.e. bowels.... so diarrhea, nausea, lightheadedness. I take 4 advil at once and then 2 more 6 hours later. When I was in my 20's, my OB advised BC to regulate that, and it worked.

    How is this diagnosed? Is it a blood test?

    In my case, no. It was after the actual episode, and my GYN diagnosed based on symptoms I described.

    Hmm... with those types of symptoms, seems like you would have to be subjected to every test under the sun to rule out a lot of other things before any mention of prostaglandins. :(



    So while issues with prostaglandins may sound unusual to you, it's actually not :)

    It's not that I thought it was unusual, it's just with symptoms like pelvic pain and bowel issues, I figure a doctor would want to rule out other things before diagnosing it. Maybe it's just the opposite, though. Maybe it's so common, they assume it's that and watch & wait.

  • Machka9
    Machka9 Posts: 25,611 Member
    enuf200 wrote: »
    I've read about going on low dose birth control pills to help with symptoms such as heavy periods and cramps, bloating?

    Theoretically that should work for some.

    I can't go that route at all ... DVT.

  • try2again
    try2again Posts: 3,562 Member
    As I was lying awake last night with abdominal pain & feeling like I was going to crawl out of my skin, I started wondering, "How do women do this?" I mean, the surgeons, heads of state, police officers, air traffic controllers, any other long-hour, high-stress job- how do they do it with the intense physical distractions and mental fog? I am a SAHM and homeschool my kids, and I've been limping through my days. I have an appt with my ob/gyn this week to make sure there isn't anything else going on, and I'm worried because I think we're about the same age! :/
  • try2again wrote: »
    As I was lying awake last night with abdominal pain & feeling like I was going to crawl out of my skin, I started wondering, "How do women do this?" I mean, the surgeons, heads of state, police officers, air traffic controllers, any other long-hour, high-stress job- how do they do it with the intense physical distractions and mental fog? I am a SAHM and homeschool my kids, and I've been limping through my days. I have an appt with my ob/gyn this week to make sure there isn't anything else going on, and I'm worried because I think we're about the same age! :/

    I do this also! My heart goes out to you if you have to deal with that sort of pain or discomfort it's an extra weight on your shoulders! I hope you can get relief from what every it may be!
  • try2again
    try2again Posts: 3,562 Member
    try2again wrote: »
    As I was lying awake last night with abdominal pain & feeling like I was going to crawl out of my skin, I started wondering, "How do women do this?" I mean, the surgeons, heads of state, police officers, air traffic controllers, any other long-hour, high-stress job- how do they do it with the intense physical distractions and mental fog? I am a SAHM and homeschool my kids, and I've been limping through my days. I have an appt with my ob/gyn this week to make sure there isn't anything else going on, and I'm worried because I think we're about the same age! :/

    I do this also! My heart goes out to you if you have to deal with that sort of pain or discomfort it's an extra weight on your shoulders! I hope you can get relief from what every it may be!

    I consider myself fortunate. Our schedule is flexible, so I can work around bad days, and I can go lie down for a few minutes when I need to. I don't like that my kids comment how I never seem to feel good, but it's all the other women out there I'm worried about!
  • Machka9
    Machka9 Posts: 25,611 Member
    edited December 2016
    try2again wrote: »
    As I was lying awake last night with abdominal pain & feeling like I was going to crawl out of my skin, I started wondering, "How do women do this?" I mean, the surgeons, heads of state, police officers, air traffic controllers, any other long-hour, high-stress job- how do they do it with the intense physical distractions and mental fog? I am a SAHM and homeschool my kids, and I've been limping through my days. I have an appt with my ob/gyn this week to make sure there isn't anything else going on, and I'm worried because I think we're about the same age! :/

    I work full time and attend university part time ...

    Fortunately, my symptoms don't occur every day. But when they do ... panadol and ginger tablets. Also evening primrose oil, valerian, magnesium, B12, Telfast and several other things like that. I'm a walking pharmacy at certain times of the month!!

  • ronjsteele1
    ronjsteele1 Posts: 1,064 Member
    try2again wrote: »
    As I was lying awake last night with abdominal pain & feeling like I was going to crawl out of my skin, I started wondering, "How do women do this?" I mean, the surgeons, heads of state, police officers, air traffic controllers, any other long-hour, high-stress job- how do they do it with the intense physical distractions and mental fog? I am a SAHM and homeschool my kids, and I've been limping through my days. I have an appt with my ob/gyn this week to make sure there isn't anything else going on, and I'm worried because I think we're about the same age! :/

    I do this also! My heart goes out to you if you have to deal with that sort of pain or discomfort it's an extra weight on your shoulders! I hope you can get relief from what every it may be!

    Third homeschool mom here. :)

    One thing I haven't really seen mentioned just straight out is progesterone. So many of the symptoms that get talked about are symptoms of low progesterone. With the exception of hot flashes (although, it might help - one never knows), bio-identical progesterone very often will help with short cycles, long cycles, heavy bleeding (this especially!), PMS, bloating, etc. In order to get an accurate picture of whether you're low in progesterone or not you have to blood test your progesterone on days 19, 20 OR 21 of your cycle. Obviously, if you're not having regular cycles still then this becomes very difficult. But for those in peri still having cycles, it can't hurt to test your progesterone to see if there's any help by way of a bio-ident for a short time. Once I hit a certain point I will most definitely go back on bio-identical progesterone. It was a life saver after my 3rd child.
  • LAWoman72
    LAWoman72 Posts: 2,846 Member
    try2again wrote: »
    As I was lying awake last night with abdominal pain & feeling like I was going to crawl out of my skin, I started wondering, "How do women do this?" I mean, the surgeons, heads of state, police officers, air traffic controllers, any other long-hour, high-stress job- how do they do it with the intense physical distractions and mental fog? I am a SAHM and homeschool my kids, and I've been limping through my days. I have an appt with my ob/gyn this week to make sure there isn't anything else going on, and I'm worried because I think we're about the same age! :/

    I am so terribly sorry to hear this. Please check in after your appointment and let us know what the doctor says, okay? I really feel for you.
  • try2again
    try2again Posts: 3,562 Member
    try2again wrote: »
    As I was lying awake last night with abdominal pain & feeling like I was going to crawl out of my skin, I started wondering, "How do women do this?" I mean, the surgeons, heads of state, police officers, air traffic controllers, any other long-hour, high-stress job- how do they do it with the intense physical distractions and mental fog? I am a SAHM and homeschool my kids, and I've been limping through my days. I have an appt with my ob/gyn this week to make sure there isn't anything else going on, and I'm worried because I think we're about the same age! :/

    I do this also! My heart goes out to you if you have to deal with that sort of pain or discomfort it's an extra weight on your shoulders! I hope you can get relief from what every it may be!

    Third homeschool mom here. :)

    One thing I haven't really seen mentioned just straight out is progesterone. So many of the symptoms that get talked about are symptoms of low progesterone. With the exception of hot flashes (although, it might help - one never knows), bio-identical progesterone very often will help with short cycles, long cycles, heavy bleeding (this especially!), PMS, bloating, etc. In order to get an accurate picture of whether you're low in progesterone or not you have to blood test your progesterone on days 19, 20 OR 21 of your cycle. Obviously, if you're not having regular cycles still then this becomes very difficult. But for those in peri still having cycles, it can't hurt to test your progesterone to see if there's any help by way of a bio-ident for a short time. Once I hit a certain point I will most definitely go back on bio-identical progesterone. It was a life saver after my 3rd child.

    I have a friend who is also peri and this was the key for her as well. She had fallen into a deep depression (unusual for her), and combined with her other symptoms, the doctor put her on progesterone (no testing- just as a trial). I don't know if it was the bio-identical specifically, but I know she complained the one that works costs her a lot more. She said the difference was night & day.
  • Francl27
    Francl27 Posts: 26,371 Member
    try2again wrote: »
    As I was lying awake last night with abdominal pain & feeling like I was going to crawl out of my skin, I started wondering, "How do women do this?" I mean, the surgeons, heads of state, police officers, air traffic controllers, any other long-hour, high-stress job- how do they do it with the intense physical distractions and mental fog? I am a SAHM and homeschool my kids, and I've been limping through my days. I have an appt with my ob/gyn this week to make sure there isn't anything else going on, and I'm worried because I think we're about the same age! :/

    I do this also! My heart goes out to you if you have to deal with that sort of pain or discomfort it's an extra weight on your shoulders! I hope you can get relief from what every it may be!

    Third homeschool mom here. :)

    One thing I haven't really seen mentioned just straight out is progesterone. So many of the symptoms that get talked about are symptoms of low progesterone. With the exception of hot flashes (although, it might help - one never knows), bio-identical progesterone very often will help with short cycles, long cycles, heavy bleeding (this especially!), PMS, bloating, etc. In order to get an accurate picture of whether you're low in progesterone or not you have to blood test your progesterone on days 19, 20 OR 21 of your cycle. Obviously, if you're not having regular cycles still then this becomes very difficult. But for those in peri still having cycles, it can't hurt to test your progesterone to see if there's any help by way of a bio-ident for a short time. Once I hit a certain point I will most definitely go back on bio-identical progesterone. It was a life saver after my 3rd child.

    I heard the same thing. I can't do progesterone though, it just puts me immediately to sleep, lol (I had pills and shots during fertility treatments). But yeah, it's worth looking at.
  • Machka9
    Machka9 Posts: 25,611 Member
    Machka9 wrote: »
    try2again wrote: »
    As I was lying awake last night with abdominal pain & feeling like I was going to crawl out of my skin, I started wondering, "How do women do this?" I mean, the surgeons, heads of state, police officers, air traffic controllers, any other long-hour, high-stress job- how do they do it with the intense physical distractions and mental fog? I am a SAHM and homeschool my kids, and I've been limping through my days. I have an appt with my ob/gyn this week to make sure there isn't anything else going on, and I'm worried because I think we're about the same age! :/

    I work full time and attend university part time ...

    Fortunately, my symptoms don't occur every day. But when they do ... panadol and ginger tablets. Also evening primrose oil, valerian, magnesium, B12, Telfast and several other things like that. I'm a walking pharmacy at certain times of the month!!


    Just saw a new gynaecologist who confirmed that I absolutely cannot use any hormones at all whatsoever. No Mirena, no creams with a tiny bit of oestrogen in them, nothing.

    If the hot flashes get bad enough that they are affecting my job, we'll try a serotonin-based tablet. But he doesn't want to get me going on that until I can't sleep at nights and have trouble working.


    However, I would definitely suggest seeing your gynaecologist and having a good chat about options.

  • try2again
    try2again Posts: 3,562 Member
    Machka9 wrote: »
    Machka9 wrote: »
    try2again wrote: »
    As I was lying awake last night with abdominal pain & feeling like I was going to crawl out of my skin, I started wondering, "How do women do this?" I mean, the surgeons, heads of state, police officers, air traffic controllers, any other long-hour, high-stress job- how do they do it with the intense physical distractions and mental fog? I am a SAHM and homeschool my kids, and I've been limping through my days. I have an appt with my ob/gyn this week to make sure there isn't anything else going on, and I'm worried because I think we're about the same age! :/

    I work full time and attend university part time ...

    Fortunately, my symptoms don't occur every day. But when they do ... panadol and ginger tablets. Also evening primrose oil, valerian, magnesium, B12, Telfast and several other things like that. I'm a walking pharmacy at certain times of the month!!




    If the hot flashes get bad enough that they are affecting my job, we'll try a serotonin-based tablet. But he doesn't want to get me going on that until I can't sleep at nights and have trouble working.

    Well, there's something to aspire to! :(

  • LAWoman72
    LAWoman72 Posts: 2,846 Member
    I am really afraid of hormones. I do horribly on them. I tried progesterone at one point and I was a screaming, weeping beast.

    Ugh, you guys. So tired today and so achy. Still nothing...I am hanging in there. Nothing else to do, really. :)
  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 28,052 Member
    Francl27 wrote: »
    try2again wrote: »
    As I was lying awake last night with abdominal pain & feeling like I was going to crawl out of my skin, I started wondering, "How do women do this?" I mean, the surgeons, heads of state, police officers, air traffic controllers, any other long-hour, high-stress job- how do they do it with the intense physical distractions and mental fog? I am a SAHM and homeschool my kids, and I've been limping through my days. I have an appt with my ob/gyn this week to make sure there isn't anything else going on, and I'm worried because I think we're about the same age! :/

    I do this also! My heart goes out to you if you have to deal with that sort of pain or discomfort it's an extra weight on your shoulders! I hope you can get relief from what every it may be!

    Third homeschool mom here. :)

    One thing I haven't really seen mentioned just straight out is progesterone. So many of the symptoms that get talked about are symptoms of low progesterone. With the exception of hot flashes (although, it might help - one never knows), bio-identical progesterone very often will help with short cycles, long cycles, heavy bleeding (this especially!), PMS, bloating, etc. In order to get an accurate picture of whether you're low in progesterone or not you have to blood test your progesterone on days 19, 20 OR 21 of your cycle. Obviously, if you're not having regular cycles still then this becomes very difficult. But for those in peri still having cycles, it can't hurt to test your progesterone to see if there's any help by way of a bio-ident for a short time. Once I hit a certain point I will most definitely go back on bio-identical progesterone. It was a life saver after my 3rd child.

    I heard the same thing. I can't do progesterone though, it just puts me immediately to sleep, lol (I had pills and shots during fertility treatments). But yeah, it's worth looking at.

    I take my Prometrium, a bio-identical progesterone, at bedtime :dizzy:
  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 28,052 Member
    LAWoman72 wrote: »
    I am really afraid of hormones. I do horribly on them. I tried progesterone at one point and I was a screaming, weeping beast.

    Ugh, you guys. So tired today and so achy. Still nothing...I am hanging in there. Nothing else to do, really. :)

    I had negative side effects from synthetic progesterone but not from Prometrium, a bio-identical progesterone.
  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 28,052 Member
    try2again wrote: »
    try2again wrote: »
    As I was lying awake last night with abdominal pain & feeling like I was going to crawl out of my skin, I started wondering, "How do women do this?" I mean, the surgeons, heads of state, police officers, air traffic controllers, any other long-hour, high-stress job- how do they do it with the intense physical distractions and mental fog? I am a SAHM and homeschool my kids, and I've been limping through my days. I have an appt with my ob/gyn this week to make sure there isn't anything else going on, and I'm worried because I think we're about the same age! :/

    I do this also! My heart goes out to you if you have to deal with that sort of pain or discomfort it's an extra weight on your shoulders! I hope you can get relief from what every it may be!

    Third homeschool mom here. :)

    One thing I haven't really seen mentioned just straight out is progesterone. So many of the symptoms that get talked about are symptoms of low progesterone. With the exception of hot flashes (although, it might help - one never knows), bio-identical progesterone very often will help with short cycles, long cycles, heavy bleeding (this especially!), PMS, bloating, etc. In order to get an accurate picture of whether you're low in progesterone or not you have to blood test your progesterone on days 19, 20 OR 21 of your cycle. Obviously, if you're not having regular cycles still then this becomes very difficult. But for those in peri still having cycles, it can't hurt to test your progesterone to see if there's any help by way of a bio-ident for a short time. Once I hit a certain point I will most definitely go back on bio-identical progesterone. It was a life saver after my 3rd child.

    I have a friend who is also peri and this was the key for her as well. She had fallen into a deep depression (unusual for her), and combined with her other symptoms, the doctor put her on progesterone (no testing- just as a trial). I don't know if it was the bio-identical specifically, but I know she complained the one that works costs her a lot more. She said the difference was night & day.

    I was getting mine from Thailand at one point but I can now get it directly through the VA so it's $9 per month. Thank you Uncle Sam.

    When my dog had cancer I did a lot of shopping around for his drugs and was amazed at the fluctuations in prices. I'll never get meds at a vet again - got the prescription and bought it elsewhere after price comparing. The vet wanted to charge us $75 for something carried at WalMart for $4 and at an independent pharmacy for $7 >.<
  • ronjsteele1
    ronjsteele1 Posts: 1,064 Member
    Francl27 wrote: »
    try2again wrote: »
    As I was lying awake last night with abdominal pain & feeling like I was going to crawl out of my skin, I started wondering, "How do women do this?" I mean, the surgeons, heads of state, police officers, air traffic controllers, any other long-hour, high-stress job- how do they do it with the intense physical distractions and mental fog? I am a SAHM and homeschool my kids, and I've been limping through my days. I have an appt with my ob/gyn this week to make sure there isn't anything else going on, and I'm worried because I think we're about the same age! :/

    I do this also! My heart goes out to you if you have to deal with that sort of pain or discomfort it's an extra weight on your shoulders! I hope you can get relief from what every it may be!

    Third homeschool mom here. :)

    One thing I haven't really seen mentioned just straight out is progesterone. So many of the symptoms that get talked about are symptoms of low progesterone. With the exception of hot flashes (although, it might help - one never knows), bio-identical progesterone very often will help with short cycles, long cycles, heavy bleeding (this especially!), PMS, bloating, etc. In order to get an accurate picture of whether you're low in progesterone or not you have to blood test your progesterone on days 19, 20 OR 21 of your cycle. Obviously, if you're not having regular cycles still then this becomes very difficult. But for those in peri still having cycles, it can't hurt to test your progesterone to see if there's any help by way of a bio-ident for a short time. Once I hit a certain point I will most definitely go back on bio-identical progesterone. It was a life saver after my 3rd child.

    I heard the same thing. I can't do progesterone though, it just puts me immediately to sleep, lol (I had pills and shots during fertility treatments). But yeah, it's worth looking at.

    Does bio-identical progesterone cream affect you the same way progesterone pills do? I can't take prometrium pills. They make me crazy. I have to use something compounded for exactly what I need (vs pills that only come in certain dosages).
  • try2again
    try2again Posts: 3,562 Member
    LAWoman72 wrote: »
    try2again wrote: »
    As I was lying awake last night with abdominal pain & feeling like I was going to crawl out of my skin, I started wondering, "How do women do this?" I mean, the surgeons, heads of state, police officers, air traffic controllers, any other long-hour, high-stress job- how do they do it with the intense physical distractions and mental fog? I am a SAHM and homeschool my kids, and I've been limping through my days. I have an appt with my ob/gyn this week to make sure there isn't anything else going on, and I'm worried because I think we're about the same age! :/

    I am so terribly sorry to hear this. Please check in after your appointment and let us know what the doctor says, okay? I really feel for you.

    Appt today. Turns out some of my symptoms may be related to a structural issue in addition to the pm. My doctor had a good laugh when she asked me how I was and I said, "I'm 48!" :/

    Sorry you had a rough day, @LAWoman72 ! :(
  • Machka9
    Machka9 Posts: 25,611 Member
    LAWoman72 wrote: »

    Is it over yet? Will it ever be over? Who knows...in the meantime...shout out if you're peri!

    According to my newest gynaecologist, who I saw for the first time today, the whole perimenopause process takes approx. 10 years.

    Based on what I told him about the last few years of my life, his best guess is that I was definitely into perimenopause in 2012. And based on the symptoms I was showing in 2012, I likely started perimenopause in about 2010.

    10 years puts me at 2020 before the whole thing is complete ... in other words, I've gone a full 12 months with no period.

    So he figures I've got about another 2 years of wonky strange frustrating periods left.

  • stephanne13
    stephanne13 Posts: 212 Member
    Machka9 wrote: »
    LAWoman72 wrote: »

    Is it over yet? Will it ever be over? Who knows...in the meantime...shout out if you're peri!

    According to my newest gynaecologist, who I saw for the first time today, the whole perimenopause process takes approx. 10 years.

    Based on what I told him about the last few years of my life, his best guess is that I was definitely into perimenopause in 2012. And based on the symptoms I was showing in 2012, I likely started perimenopause in about 2010.

    10 years puts me at 2020 before the whole thing is complete ... in other words, I've gone a full 12 months with no period.

    So he figures I've got about another 2 years of wonky strange frustrating periods left.

    Geez Louse...that seems just a tad excessive, Mother Nature.
    Can we think about paring down a bit, maybe?!
  • ThatUserNameIsAllReadyTaken
    ThatUserNameIsAllReadyTaken Posts: 1,530 Member
    edited January 2017
    Just came across this. I have been doing a lot of digging on this perimenopause thing. There are so many crazy things that women experience.
    I removed this link because it seems to be asking people to pay to read the article. It does not ask me to pay nor do I subscribe. Not sure what the problem is. I copied and pasted what I could see of it below.
  • LAWoman72
    LAWoman72 Posts: 2,846 Member
    edited January 2017
    Oh, my thread came back!

    More than four months since my last period now.

    My water is still doing nutty things and I can only reasonably put it down to hormones and this roller coaster. Rings tight this morning for no discernible reason...On the plus side, I am less tired these past few days.