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  • Tricia7188
    Tricia7188 Posts: 135 Member
    edited January 2017
    AMazing thread!!!! Read it start to finish! Last year I read a book that sounds SO similar to you, I found it on Amazon called "When ashes get in your eyes" or something like that Haha. Good read!! Except she worked in a crematorium only, no burials. So it's cool learning about the embalming and casket stuff.
    Edit: It's called "Smoke Gets in Your Eyes: And other lessons from the crematory"
  • LittleHearseDriver
    LittleHearseDriver Posts: 2,677 Member
    Tricia7188 wrote: »
    AMazing thread!!!! Read it start to finish! Last year I read a book that sounds SO similar to you, I found it on Amazon called "When ashes get in your eyes" or something like that Haha. Good read!! Except she worked in a crematorium only, no burials. So it's cool learning about the embalming and casket stuff.
    Edit: It's called "Smoke Gets in Your Eyes: And other lessons from the crematory"
    Yep, I read that last year too. She seems very anti-burial. I can see the value of a family doing somethings on their own, but suicides, autopsies, and traumatic deaths aren't one of those.
  • elephant2mouse
    elephant2mouse Posts: 906 Member
    I read all 11 pages of this! So interesting! I would definitely buy your book.

    I have an odd question -- say someone wanted an actual mummification, could/would you accommodate that?
    Also that wicker basket coffin is gorgeous.
  • LittleHearseDriver
    LittleHearseDriver Posts: 2,677 Member
    Sorry, I can only embalm and cremate.
  • Jimb376mfp
    Jimb376mfp Posts: 6,236 Member
    Motorsheen wrote: »
    I only have one question.

    What are you wearing?

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    Have you ever met a necrophiliac? I would imagine people like that try hard to get jobs in funeral homes

    As far as I know, I've never met one

    Must you always wear black? Or do you sometimes "lighten up"?
  • LittleHearseDriver
    LittleHearseDriver Posts: 2,677 Member
    I don't have to wear black, but I prefer it over any other suit color.Black goes with everything and it's a classic. I have a lot of cute colorful tops that I wear with them.
  • Jimb376mfp
    Jimb376mfp Posts: 6,236 Member
    "A few years ago we buried the wife of a well liked 80 year old black minister in town. At the funeral everyone praised him for being a loving and devoted husband. Six weeks later he got remarried. Thenat a funeral he preached, he was bragging about how he liked to take her out for ice cream so he would watch her lick the cone clean"

    Please clarify for me...was he talking about his late wife licking a cone? Or his new wife?
    Either way it's weird!
  • Jimb376mfp
    Jimb376mfp Posts: 6,236 Member
    ninerbuff wrote: »
    Is the story true about big feet and hands?

    Since you have answered every crazy question....
    Have you seen any um, ah, well you know....that made you say "oh MY!!!"
  • LittleHearseDriver
    LittleHearseDriver Posts: 2,677 Member
    Jimb376mfp wrote: »
    "A few years ago we buried the wife of a well liked 80 year old black minister in town. At the funeral everyone praised him for being a loving and devoted husband. Six weeks later he got remarried. Thenat a funeral he preached, he was bragging about how he liked to take her out for ice cream so he would watch her lick the cone clean"

    Please clarify for me...was he talking about his late wife licking a cone? Or his new wife?
    Either way it's weird!
    His new wife
  • Mini_Medic
    Mini_Medic Posts: 343 Member
    Such an amazing thread! I know a bit about the pre mortuary topics since I work as a paramedic and unfortunately encounter death a fair amount. Fascinating what I didn't know about the processes and preparations before burial/cremation.

    For the person who commented about preferring a closed casket and not understanding why others don't, well many people need that last look to find peace and know the person is really gone. Too many folks have heard stories about people faking their own death or committing a crime and running away to a country with no extradition. So seeing the real person deceased is needed for them to accept that they are gone. Although after working my job, I wouldn't want to see a deceased loved one, I would trust that they are really gone and not need visual proof. But I don't understand why people have a morbid fascination with seeing a dead body. More people, especially family members show up to a scene right after someone is found dead than they do to a funeral and that always bothered me. I guess it's just curiosity of the unknown. Most just appear to be pale and sleeping unless it's been awhile.

    Anyway, cheers! Thank you for answering our questions.
  • Laurie6578
    Laurie6578 Posts: 154 Member
    Have you ever got in a casket? I would totally do that just to check it out.
  • Laurie6578
    Laurie6578 Posts: 154 Member
    I watched a cremation once. It was my husband's father. My husband's sister decided she needed to be there with him and my husband decided he needed to be there for his sister so I figured great.. I need to be there for my husband. Turned out I was the only one upset by it...he was put into what appeared to be a large cardboard box and it looked like he was placed into the bowels of hell with the fire roaring ~ could've had something to do with the fact he wasn't really all that nice sometimes ;\
  • MelodyandBarbells
    MelodyandBarbells Posts: 7,724 Member
    Mini_Medic wrote: »
    Such an amazing thread! I know a bit about the pre mortuary topics since I work as a paramedic and unfortunately encounter death a fair amount. Fascinating what I didn't know about the processes and preparations before burial/cremation.

    For the person who commented about preferring a closed casket and not understanding why others don't, well many people need that last look to find peace and know the person is really gone. Too many folks have heard stories about people faking their own death or committing a crime and running away to a country with no extradition. So seeing the real person deceased is needed for them to accept that they are gone. Although after working my job, I wouldn't want to see a deceased loved one, I would trust that they are really gone and not need visual proof. But I don't understand why people have a morbid fascination with seeing a dead body. More people, especially family members show up to a scene right after someone is found dead than they do to a funeral and that always bothered me. I guess it's just curiosity of the unknown. Most just appear to be pale and sleeping unless it's been awhile.

    Anyway, cheers! Thank you for answering our questions.

    I wonder if it's the thought of a loved one being in some strange place alone, not being comforted or taken care of, and with a bunch of strangers who do not care about them.
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 49,022 Member
    I've never noticed any "smiles" on the corpses. Can this be accommodated if requested?

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  • canadianlbs
    canadianlbs Posts: 5,199 Member
    here's one i asked my gp once and it just made her eyes cross. but maybe if you've ever embalmed a pregnant woman, you can tell me:

    where do your ovaries go when you're pregnant?
  • LittleHearseDriver
    LittleHearseDriver Posts: 2,677 Member
    @Laurie6578 I've never climbed in one because with my luck the thing would tip over. The mattress is 1.5 inch piece of foam rubber, it doesn't look very comfy.

  • LittleHearseDriver
    LittleHearseDriver Posts: 2,677 Member
    ninerbuff wrote: »
    I've never noticed any "smiles" on the corpses. Can this be accommodated if requested?

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

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    We have no control over that. Some individuals have a naturally pleasant expression and others not so much.
    here's one i asked my gp once and it just made her eyes cross. but maybe if you've ever embalmed a pregnant woman, you can tell me:

    where do your ovaries go when you're pregnant?

    I've never embalmed a pregnant woman before.
  • SueSueDio
    SueSueDio Posts: 4,796 Member
    I've been following this for a couple of weeks now... it's fascinating! Thank you, @LittleHearseDriver , for sharing your knowledge here - it makes the whole thing seem less scary somehow.

    You mentioned puncturing the internal organs in an earlier post - why do you have to do that? Do they cause some kind of problem with the body if they're left intact?

    And sort of related to that, I guess - if you did have a pregnant woman to embalm, would the foetus have to be removed first and what would be done with it in that case? Or would the doctor involved with her case have dealt with that before she came to you? Would it depend on how far along she was at the time of death?

    Second question - when my dad died, for a couple of reasons it was nearly two weeks before we held his cremation. I've often wondered what the funeral home would have had to do to him to "keep" him that long, but didn't like to ask! (It was in the middle of winter, if that makes any difference, and also in the UK although I presume practices are fairly similar in all Western countries?)

    We have no control over that. Some individuals have a naturally pleasant expression and others not so much.

    Oh dear... so those poor people who suffer with "resting b**ch face" are stuck with it after death too? ;)
  • MaybeLed
    MaybeLed Posts: 250 Member
    @LittleHearseDriver I know you said about having an order of service for someone who's died. Have you ever had any you thought were awful? or tried to re-write?

    At my Grandfather's funeral my uncle put in a diatribe about how my grandfather beat him and my dad to show he 'had conviction'. :s
  • LittleHearseDriver
    LittleHearseDriver Posts: 2,677 Member
    SueSueDio wrote: »
    I've been following this for a couple of weeks now... it's fascinating! Thank you, @LittleHearseDriver , for sharing your knowledge here - it makes the whole thing seem less scary somehow.

    You mentioned puncturing the internal organs in an earlier post - why do you have to do that? Do they cause some kind of problem with the body if they're left intact?

    And sort of related to that, I guess - if you did have a pregnant woman to embalm, would the foetus have to be removed first and what would be done with it in that case? Or would the doctor involved with her case have dealt with that before she came to you? Would it depend on how far along she was at the time of death?

    Second question - when my dad died, for a couple of reasons it was nearly two weeks before we held his cremation. I've often wondered what the funeral home would have had to do to him to "keep" him that long, but didn't like to ask! (It was in the middle of winter, if that makes any difference, and also in the UK although I presume practices are fairly similar in all Western countries?)

    We have no control over that. Some individuals have a naturally pleasant expression and others not so much.

    Oh dear... so those poor people who suffer with "resting b**ch face" are stuck with it after death too? ;)

    We aspirate the abdominal cavity to remove blood, urine, and feces. Those excess fluids help the body break down faster if we do not remove them and the stomach will begin to swell (like roadkill for example).

    When embalm as normal whether there is a fetus or not. We don't remove any tissue or organs,the medical examiner is responsible for that.

    We have a specific room for cremations that we keep the temperature low. After a few days they will begin to smell, but we normal have all of the paperwork ready in a day or two so they usually don't have to sit around that long. If a funeral home has their own crematory, they have their own cooler for storing bodies. **Crosses fingers** I'm hoping my work will get one this year.
    MaybeLed wrote: »
    @LittleHearseDriver I know you said about having an order of service for someone who's died. Have you ever had any you thought were awful? or tried to re-write?

    At my Grandfather's funeral my uncle put in a diatribe about how my grandfather beat him and my dad to show he 'had conviction'. :s
    I've seen some interesting ones. People put the most random,unnecessary information in obituaries. Most families let us write them, but every now and then they insist on writing their own.
  • RachelElser
    RachelElser Posts: 1,049 Member
    bump* cause this threat is great!
  • Miz_T
    Miz_T Posts: 150 Member
    Miz_T wrote: »
    If I were to go into the business of working at a funeral home, what would I do? Where would be a good first step?
    Are you interested in doing removals, working visitations/funerals or becoming licensed?

    I'm not sure, really, probably removals. I'm not a people person.
  • LittleHearseDriver
    LittleHearseDriver Posts: 2,677 Member
    Sukisumi wrote: »
    This is a great thread. I'm an archaeologist in the UK and have excavated lots of human remains (from Roman through to Victorian), we get the occasional cremation too, so it's interesting to read things from a different perspective! We can have a Victorian skeleton (~100 years old) who is completely decayed and a prehistoric skeleton (~3000 years old) with part of the brain still intact (true story; I know the guy that excavated it and it made headlines)!

    My mum died in 2010 when I was 19 and it was traumatic for me. The people at the funeral home made everything so much easier for us and whoever embalmed my mum and did her make-up did an amazing job. Luckily she had a very peaceful expression on her face (the last time I saw her was with her mouth wide open and lots of gargling as gasses and things escaped her mouth) just after I watched her die.

    I have to say thank you for this thread @LittleHearseDriver and the job you do because it impacts the families and friends in more ways than the practical side of your job.

    Making a family happy after losing someone they love means the world to me ❤
    Miz_T wrote: »
    Miz_T wrote: »
    If I were to go into the business of working at a funeral home, what would I do? Where would be a good first step?
    Are you interested in doing removals, working visitations/funerals or becoming licensed?

    I'm not sure, really, probably removals. I'm not a people person.

    I've gotta warn you, death isn't a 9:00-5:00 gig. You lose a lot of sleep and there are some nights when you have to go out several times. Home death calls can be gross when you see how nasty people live. And obese people are always a ton of fun- your help magically disappears when you have those.

    If you're really passionate about it go to your local funeral home and speak with them. They may know a place that is hiring. The bigger thr city, the higher the demand.
  • ejbronte
    ejbronte Posts: 867 Member
    Sukisumi wrote: »
    This is a great thread. I'm an archaeologist in the UK and have excavated lots of human remains (from Roman through to Victorian), we get the occasional cremation too, so it's interesting to read things from a different perspective! We can have a Victorian skeleton (~100 years old) who is completely decayed and a prehistoric skeleton (~3000 years old) with part of the brain still intact (true story; I know the guy that excavated it and it made headlines)!

    Did you keep track of the Richard III discovery at Leicester? As a Ricardian (though a Brooklyn-based one!), I was excited to read about and about the results of the various examinations.

  • LittleHearseDriver
    LittleHearseDriver Posts: 2,677 Member
    edited January 2017
    @Motorsheen here is that memorial record that made me break down in tears last week. Folding and stapling those suckers made me want to take up drinking :/

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  • Miz_T
    Miz_T Posts: 150 Member
    Flower girls? Funerals have flower girls?
  • Sukisumi
    Sukisumi Posts: 96 Member
    ejbronte wrote: »
    Sukisumi wrote: »
    This is a great thread. I'm an archaeologist in the UK and have excavated lots of human remains (from Roman through to Victorian), we get the occasional cremation too, so it's interesting to read things from a different perspective! We can have a Victorian skeleton (~100 years old) who is completely decayed and a prehistoric skeleton (~3000 years old) with part of the brain still intact (true story; I know the guy that excavated it and it made headlines)!

    Did you keep track of the Richard III discovery at Leicester? As a Ricardian (though a Brooklyn-based one!), I was excited to read about and about the results of the various examinations.

    It was hard to miss it. It's interesting and it's *in all probability* him but we can never be 100% sure. It's incredibly rare to be able to get and genetic data from a skeleton alone (the teeth are the best bet for isotopic analysis). I found Phillipa Langley's treatment of the excavation incredibly disrespectful but she is mental (IMO... as well as pretty much every actual archaeologist I know).

    I'm a Viking Age specialist so Richard III is a bit modern for my liking haha. ;)
  • LittleHearseDriver
    LittleHearseDriver Posts: 2,677 Member
    Miz_T wrote: »
    Flower girls? Funerals have flower girls?
    Black funerals do
  • Motorsheen
    Motorsheen Posts: 20,508 Member
    edited January 2017
    Thanks

    .... I want a flower chick

    Or two.
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