Humans are not designed to drink cows milk

KristinD1977

True enough, however, I doubt that humans produce near as much saliva as calves do.

I'm not actually taking a stand against the consumption of milk but many people are so used to ingesting it that they'd never suspect it of causing them problems. I don't think it's a bad idea for people to try eliminating it for a few weeks to see if it makes a difference for them. I actually have a cow's milk hangover today as I ate a grotesque amount of greek pizza for dinner & then took the kids out for creemie's (Maple...mmmm) It was well worth it... but not on a daily basis.

Wetcoaster

Ate dairy, wheat, and artificial sweeteners this morning. Shockingly, I did not spontaneously combust...

- Layne Norton

bumblebums

What about beer? Humans were not "designed" to drink beer. Thank you Evolution!

People have been drinking beer for billions of years, I'm sure. With almonds for a bar snack.

This. Thank you for your support

Oh, you're welcome, OP. Maybe you should learn a thing or two about the timeline of human evolution, though. And evolution in general.

Everyone knows that humans evolved hundreds of years before the dawn of history.

KristinD1977

True enough, however, I doubt that humans produce near as much saliva as calves do.

I'm not actually taking a stand against the consumption of milk but many people are so used to ingesting it that they'd never suspect it of causing them problems. I don't think it's a bad idea for people to try eliminating it for a few weeks to see if it makes a difference for them. I actually have a cow's milk hangover today as I ate a grotesque amount of greek pizza for dinner & then took the kids out for creemie's (Maple...mmmm) It was well worth it... but not on a daily basis.

PeaceVegan

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

andreamossy

When is the last time you were on a diary farm??? Get your facts straight before starting a protest.

waldo56

If it were the ideal nutrition then why would so many mother's choose breastfeeding when it would be so simple to feed cow's milk instead which we (human's) must be designed to consume by this point in time???

Not sure if serious.

Most baby formulas are made from cows milk. Wasn't that long ago that breastfeeding was scarce in western society with virtually all babies being formula fed.

Kids can switch to drinking regular milk once they start moving and getting nutrition from other foods as well. The big reason to avoid it before that is that cows milk is a good bit more calorically dense than human milk.

Jerrypeoples

the only way a steak is tastier is if they happen to catch some of the cow tears as it is cooked

sean_d33

"We are the only species that willingly drinks milk from another species and after infancy."

My dogs and cat "willingly" drink cow's milk if I spill it on the floor. My dogs and cat would never "willingly" climb into my car, turn the key, shift the trans and drive it...Maybe we need to reconsider automobiles as well?

doug_pierce

There is no such thing as almond (or soy) milk. Milk comes from mammals. It should be called almond drink.

Nyoei

That's why I only drink almond milk. It has fixed all my flatulence problems. Give it a try!

Almond milk is kind of nasty to drink so I only use it for cooking. Hazelnut milk is where it's at! I have some right now in my coffee... bliss

BrianSharpe

a lady named bcattoes proved me wrong on this once before in a thread a long long time ago. cats drink milk lol

cats drink other animals milk? by choice? try again

You've obviously never stepped foot on a farm......at milking time barn cats are practically killing each other for a sip of nice fresh milk.....sure looks like choice to me!

To the OP.: Designed or evolved? I've seen no proof that we were "designed" in the first place......

Janice2Shakira

In the US, products may not be labeled organic if they contain GMO.

They can contain "trace" amounts of GMOs according to USDA, I've yet to find an agreed upon number. 0.9% to 5%, so I've heard. Not saying you're wrong, or that I even care, just throwing out the info.

chubaway

There is no such thing as almond (or soy) milk. Milk comes from mammals. It should be called almond drink.

1 milk noun \ˈmilk\
Definition of MILK

1
a : a fluid secreted by the mammary glands of females for the nourishment of their young; especially : cow's milk used as a food by humans
b : lactation <cows in milk>
2
: a liquid resembling milk in appearance: as
a : the latex of a plant
b : the juice of a coconut composed of liquid endosperm
c : the contents of an unripe kernel of grain

waldo56

What about beer? Humans were not "designed" to drink beer. Thank you Evolution!

Well during the plagues of the middle ages and before, heavy beer drinkers had a high survival rate since many of the plagues were water-borne, the alcohol in beer sterilizes it. Prior to modern sanitation, beer was about the safest thing you could drink.

Until very recent times (the advent of the automobile and TV/sofa combination) beer drinkers were being naturally selected for survival. Despite the unhealthy/dangerous side of beer, it does lead to an increase in procreation, hard to say if it is being naturally selected as a trait overall or not at the moment, but it definitely was for most of human's time drinking beer.

MSeel1984

That's why I only drink almond milk. It has fixed all my flatulence problems. Give it a try!

Well something that is interesting....

Almonds are not meant to be milked. Just blew your mind didn't I...LoL. Seriously though, if that works for you, that's great. I enjoy a combination...either almond or cow's milk.

LAW_714

Every soy milk I've ever seen is made with organic soy beans, which means non-GMO.

They don't have to list it as "genetically modified". Genetic modification is a specific process, if they don't use that process, they don't have to call it that.

Unfortunately, genetically modified is actually a more precise method of creating new strains than what they were actually doing. What they would do was expose the seeds and seedlings to toxins, deliberately creating 'natural' mutations until it finally created herbicide-resistant one, through trial and error. You might actually be better off with a GMO variety. This was far more haphazard.

(And I'm pretty sure my uncle's farm wasn't commercially growing round-up resistant soybeans for nothing. They're used in something... given the prevelance of them in the farming industry, I'd say they're in a LOT of somethings.)

In the US, products may not be labeled organic if they contain GMO.

Mutations aren't and don't have to be labeled as a GMO.

GM in GMO is specifically "Genetically Modified", a process that deliberately introduces changes to the DNA.

On the other hand, mutogenesis (intentional mutation breeding) does NOT have to be labeled GMO. Mutogenesis is WAY more trial and error and haphazard than than GMO production.

A GMO it is produced through the process of biotech firms genetically engineering a food through intentional DNA intervention. On the other hand, they can play Russian roulette with "natual" mutations (even if they are produced by exposure to substances likely to cause mutations) all they want without such a label, because they aren't specifically intervening with the DNA. It just "happened"... with a whole lot of help).

So, yes, GMO's are disallowed in 'organic'.

Hybrids created through deliberate (and equally as interventionist) mutogenesis are allowed (especially since most --in excess of 90% -- of commercially available wheat falls into this category)

JustJennie1

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What about beer? Humans were not "designed" to drink beer. Thank you Evolution!

You do realize that back in the days of King Henry because the sanitation was so horrible in England and the water was so contaminated that they drank spirits instead, right?

chubaway

What about beer? Humans were not "designed" to drink beer. Thank you Evolution!

Well during the plagues of the middle ages and before, heavy beer drinkers had a high survival rate since many of the plagues were water-borne, the alcohol in beer sterilizes it. Prior to modern sanitation, beer was about the safest thing you could drink.

Until very recent times (the advent of the automobile and TV/sofa combination) beer drinkers were being naturally selected for survival. Of course nowadays if does lead to an increase in procreation.

You're just a cornucopia of facts, aren't you? A veritable encyclopedia. jk

chezjuan

a lady named bcattoes proved me wrong on this once before in a thread a long long time ago. cats drink milk lol

cats drink other animals milk? by choice? try again

My 12-year old cat drinks cow's milk... begs me for it. While he does not have the means to get it himself (with the lack of thumbs, etc.), I would say that it is a willing choice on his part.

eric_sg61

This thread brings the LOLZ in the form of amateur anthropologists and arm-chair physiologists

KristinD1977

Unless you have been surgically enhanced to have 4 stomachs, like a cow, then there is a pretty good chance that cow's milk was not designed for you.

Cows do not actually use their 4 stomachs to digest milk. This is a common misconception. The rumen, reticulum, and omasum are all for digesting grass, grain, and other vegetative matter. When a calf drinks, the sucking mechanism runs the milk directly into the abomasum, which is the true stomach and similar to our own.

So unless you have 4 stomachs, you shouldn't be eating vegetables.

I consider this matter settled

Hahahaha...this..excellent.

To say no human should drink lactose...? That's like saying no human should eat peanuts because one person has a peanut allergy...

I drink what I am in the mood for...sometimes it's almond milk, sometimes it's cow's milk.

What works for one person may not work for another. Diets are individualized according to tolerance and preferences.

Cows eat grass, not veggies
Also, not sure where my post said that no human should eat products containing milk. Technically speaking, the statement that cow's milk was not designed for human's is 100% true, it was designed by nature for calves, will it kill other species? Highly unlikely but it may cause allergies or intolerance for many. For this reason I try to limit my intake of dairy and notice that I don't hit the snooze button so many times in the morning when I've cut it out of my diet.

acogg

So corn fed beef is another myth?

MSeel1984

Unless you have been surgically enhanced to have 4 stomachs, like a cow, then there is a pretty good chance that cow's milk was not designed for you.

Cows do not actually use their 4 stomachs to digest milk. This is a common misconception. The rumen, reticulum, and omasum are all for digesting grass, grain, and other vegetative matter. When a calf drinks, the sucking mechanism runs the milk directly into the abomasum, which is the true stomach and similar to our own.

So unless you have 4 stomachs, you shouldn't be eating vegetables.

I consider this matter settled

Hahahaha...this..excellent.

To say no human should drink lactose...? That's like saying no human should eat peanuts because one person has a peanut allergy...

I drink what I am in the mood for...sometimes it's almond milk, sometimes it's cow's milk.

What works for one person may not work for another. Diets are individualized according to tolerance and preferences.

Cows eat grass, not veggies
Also, not sure where my post said that no human should eat products containing milk. Technically speaking, the statement that cow's milk was not designed for human's is 100% true, it was designed by nature for calves, will it kill other species? Highly unlikely but it may cause allergies or intolerance for many. For this reason I try to limit my intake of dairy and notice that I don't hit the snooze button so many times in the morning when I've cut it out of my diet.

Hence...to quote my own post "What works for one person may not work for another. Diets are individualized according to tolerance and preferences.

And how is drinking milk and eating products derived from cow's milk any different. I am curious.

doug_pierce

There is no such thing as almond (or soy) milk. Milk comes from mammals. It should be called almond drink.

1 milk noun \ˈmilk\
Definition of MILK

1
a : a fluid secreted by the mammary glands of females for the nourishment of their young; especially : cow's milk used as a food by humans
b : lactation <cows in milk>
2
: a liquid resembling milk in appearance: as
a : the latex of a plant
b : the juice of a coconut composed of liquid endosperm
c : the contents of an unripe kernel of grain

So now we're defining something by saying it resembles itself in the definition. Either that's BS or the English language has jumped the shark.

ndj1979

This thread brings the LOLZ in the form of amateur anthropologists and arm-chair physiologists

seriously, who knew there were so many zoologists on MFP...?

Carnivor0us

There is no such thing as almond (or soy) milk. Milk comes from mammals. It should be called almond drink.

1 milk noun \ˈmilk\
Definition of MILK

1
a : a fluid secreted by the mammary glands of females for the nourishment of their young; especially : cow's milk used as a food by humans
b : lactation <cows in milk>
2
: a liquid resembling milk in appearance: as
a : the latex of a plant
b : the juice of a coconut composed of liquid endosperm
c : the contents of an unripe kernel of grain

So now we're defining something by saying it resembles itself in the definition. Either that's BS or the English language has jumped the shark.

Let's call margarine butter while we're at it

cadaverousbones

Yeah all animals are just supposed to drink their mother's milk during development but milk is pretty good. We eat a lot of things we aren't "designed" to eat lol. With my meat/dairy products and produce I always make sure to get cruelty free & organic for health reasons and for the animals.

hillcontessa

I have no issues having dominion over animals.

Ha!

UsedToBeHusky

For this reason I try to limit my intake of dairy and notice that I don't hit the snooze button so many times in the morning when I've cut it out of my diet.

Wait...

So now milk is to blame for sleeping disorders?? :huh:

Correlation =/= causation!