WOMEN AGES 50+ FOR APRIL 2017

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  • pipcd34
    pipcd34 Posts: 17,209 Member
    stat for the day:

    ride home to gym partway then back hm- 21.25min, 4.7amph, .8mi, then flat, walked bike home, total 1.6mi = 169c
  • GRITSandSLUTSandWINOS
    GRITSandSLUTSandWINOS Posts: 2,573 Member
    Re – I’m sorry you lost [misplaced] your ring. I have not been able to find one that was given to me as a Christmas gift; but, in the move, I also could not find my “Chinese Warrior” that I bought when my BF and I went to Birmingham, AL to see the ‘showing’ of the Chinese Warrior presentation. IF it ever comes within driving distance; I would certain recommend going to see it. AMAZING!

    Sarah – I know growing up because my Daddy was an attorney; we heard a lot and we saw a lot, so we never could even ‘admit’ that someone had been at our house (for any real reason). I saw and read things then, as well as in my job as an adult that I ‘still’ cannot talk about because of ‘confidentiality’. Therefore, I thought I was the ‘only’ person whose Daddy would get ‘drunk’; but, that wasn’t so … learned that YEARS and YEARS later.

    Some things I learned from others who were friends back then and what they say about parents, siblings, grandparents, other kin folks, about their ‘ex’ marriages and what went on and how much happier they are now, really gave me ‘pause’. I wasn’t the only one; and, some did a lot worse. I always felt ‘safe’ in my family home. Daddy and Mother rarely had any arguments and Daddy would have NEVER hit her for any reason. She was ‘in love’ with him, on sight. Actually, from her angle, she thought he was someone else, from another town. Her BF asked ‘if she wanted her to introduce her to him’. The rest is ‘history’. But, they dated 5 years before getting married because he wanted to pass the Bar Exam before taking on a wife and raising a family. He encouraged my Mother to do whatever she wanted to do. He supported everything she did. She did a lot of volunteer work; and, he went out and got the $$$ to buy the last ‘band uniform’ so they would have them for my oldest sister’s senior year. Mother sewed gold braid down the sides of all the pants. About 40 pair of them. He was the ‘main’ bread-winner; she was the ‘main’ (only actually) disciplinarian in the house. We knew what we could and could not do and we knew ‘ahead of time what the consequences were for breaking them. Louis’ father was the disciplinarian when he was not ‘off shore’; but, his mother was a ‘love’. She did not know how to drive; but, when it rained, she would take DH to go pick up his newspapers and they would deliver them. He had the largest newspaper route of anybody in Jacksonville, when they were being delivered to the doors. Then, he had to go ‘collect’ for them. His first purchase was a desk. When he and his 1st wife got a divorce, she went over and got it, telling her that was ‘one thing’ she would NOT take away from him. Still have it. It’s a really nice piece. So, we raised our children taking the ‘best’ of what we lived growing up; and, discarding the ‘not so good’. Little eyes are always watching you and they emulate what they see.

    No, Sarah, it is good to get it ‘out and off your chest’. I think that all of us have ‘voiced’ our sadness, irritation, hurt, love, frustration, etc., and we are all ‘family’ (the good side). {{{{{HUGS}}}}}

    Carol – You’re probably right. I think the only person that ‘spent the night’ lived across the street; past that I don’t remember having ‘spend the night’ company. The first person I spent the night with, because I pitched a hissy fit, was with Priscilla G’s brother, J.Ray. It was ‘dark’ as soot when the lights went out. I was a ‘bed-wetter’ well into elementary school. So, Miss Doris told Mother I could stay … even though it was going to be ‘possible’ that I’d wet the bed. I got a pair of his PJs to sleep in. Got a bath, ate supper, and went to bed after playing for a little while. During the night, I woke up needing to go to the bathroom; but, I had absolutely no idea where I was, so I stayed in bed. I wet it; pulled the bottoms off, put my panties on, went to the other side of the bed and rolled him over to what had been ‘my side’ of the bed. After a while it seeped in and he sat up and started screaming for his Mother. We got put in the bathtub while she changed the bed. She never made a big deal out of it, at all. When they were still having “The Bash” … I was there – I think Suzanne, Tommy, Louis and I went with Margaret. I was a bit drunk and went up to him and asked if I could ‘tell his wife’ about ‘being the first boy I ever slept with’. He laughed and told me, ‘go ahead’. I look at her and said, “J.Ray was the first boy I ever slept with!” She had this look on her face that read: “DAMN, I can’t believe you said that to me!” Then, I told her the story. She laughed. Well, the next time there was something where we got together (a reunion or another “Bash”) J.Ray comes up to Louis and tells him that ‘I am the first girl that he ever slept with’. I wanted to drill a hole in the floor. Then, he told Louis the story. It’s stories like that, that I will remember about him. He could tell some of the best stories. That’s the 2nd classmate of mine to pass away the way he did. So sad!

    Ginger – My husband AND my sons have always figured out ‘how to do things’. Trey works on the tractor and lawn mower and Will has taught himself all the ‘big equipment’ that his bosses have out there. I can usually ‘figure’ out how I think something ‘ought to look’ and Louis is pretty good at taking my ‘instructions’ and ‘looking at my pictures I have drawn for him’ and he makes it. The ‘only’ thing that he hasn’t done is: Buy and hang my door to my porch. I’ve only been waiting for it for 2 years.

    My DDnL#2 sent me the books she had on Dave Ramsey and his books on ‘setting up a budget’. It was an ‘eye-opener’ and came at the ‘right time’ before we did something we would have ‘regretted’. I have set up a budget; working on the ‘snow-ball effect’ on paying bills. She told me that it also had discs to go with it; but, she had loaned it out to a co-worker. When she got them back, one was missing and the others were scratched. I can’t believe that a ‘friend’ would do something like that. I would have offered to buy a new set for her.
    How long is that book? It looks like something you could ‘sell’ … I’d like that!

    KYKAREN – Yeah, I have the ‘stuff’ to work on the ‘big book of death’ for DH and both boys. I had thought about trying to list things that I wanted each son (and wives) to have; then I realized I was frustrating myself; so the only ‘thing’ I have said was ‘Taylor gets my wedding rings’; Tami gets Mimi’s Hoosier kitchen cabinet (because I know she’ll keep it in the family). Past that point, they have a ‘good relationship’ with one another and the 2 of them can ‘divide’ it up (with NO wives interfering with their decisions). I think our Wills are specific enough. Just the basic “I Love You” mirror Will.
    Yep, we’ve got certain songs we’d like our spouse/boys to play at our funerals.

    Margaret – I had an ‘over-zealous’ psychologist who thought it was ‘time’ for me to reveal something to my Mother; ‘that I had been sexually abused by the father of a friend of mine’. I told her that I ‘did not want to tell her’. Nothing said would change it; it would have only hurt her that she either did not notice that something was affecting me or she’d be sad that I had not felt comfortable coming to them’. We got in the room and she just ‘blurted it out’. I never went back, it did hurt my Mother (a lot); but, they had moved before anything serious happened (maybe). I got over it insofar as feeling the pain and shame. But, it is a part of my being and therefore I ‘speak my mind’ when it might be better to ‘let sleeping dogs lie’ [no pun intended]. It took me YEARS … before I ‘trusted’ someone. That someone is my DH. As for ‘trust’ issues; I no longer will EVER see ‘any’ doctor who has the ‘god complex’.

    Joyce – I’m sorry she got stuck with that ‘nickname’. Girl or boy, still pretty ‘cruel’. But, we live through it – sometimes – most of the time.

    Lanette – I know exactly where my senior class ring (which had matched my ‘at the time’ boyfriend’s ring) and my DH’s ‘wedding band’ from his first marriage are: At the bottom of a well on the property that my Daddy grew up on. Splash! Splash! LOL!!!!!

    Yeah, I knew what it was like to ‘try NOT to get into trouble’. My Daddy also knew: I drove a 1960 Ford Fairlane – baby blue in color – it ran, it had a working radio, and a working heater. Past that – it was a ‘car’. One of the things I did that I never wanted my parents to find out was: When I-75 ended right above the town I grew up in … one of my BFs and I decided that the ‘dirt’ expressway would definitely be a much short way to get to another friend’s house. It was all packed and ready to be paved. So they had a pile of gravel behind the “Do Not Enter” sign, we got out, moved the sign and I drove up on the gravel – only to get it stuck on the bottom with all 4 wheels up in the air. The workers were just getting off and they were RITDLTAO!!!!! They did get us the predicament we found ourselves in. And, we took the ‘long way around’. LOL!!!!!

    Barbie – They have to sedate me to have a MRI.

    Lenora
  • fanncy0626
    fanncy0626 Posts: 7,152 Member
    pip - bummer!
  • exermom
    exermom Posts: 6,502 Member
    Did 1 hr Kathy Smith Total Body DVD. The plan for tomorrow is to do the Butt Bible DVD.

    Sarah - Jess is 32, and Colby has to be near that if not the same age. Since she just moved into a new place and is still unpacking, I'm sure she hasn't thought about growing something. Someone suggested going to Sam's and see if they have a popcorn tin. That's something that I can have and won't go bad if she doesn't come down for a while. In one sense I hope she doesn't, this way I can get the chocolate bunnies on sale 1/2 price...lol

    Exercised, volunteered at the Green Room, got my hair cut, came home to get dinner prepared to microwave. Newcomer bowling tonight.

    barbie - I'm sorry Jake is still not doing well. I hope he gets better fast.

    Welcome everyone new

    Rori - Hawaii looks heavenly. So glad you had such a good time. Safe travels to Reno

    Re - so sorry about your ring

    Lenora - I don't think that I'm even going to bother trying to have my own music. The class is at 7:15 in the morning, anyway, so I'm always rushing to get there on time. So now I'm just going to take my time and get there when I get there. I keep my shopping list on my phone so I always have it with me.

    pitegny - will the rubbing coffee grounds work if you rub them on the muffin top? If caffeine is a thinning agent, I just may take up drinking coffee

    Lanette - can you tell me more about this Sweet Freedom Summit? I couldn't find much information about it online.

    Would you believe I have never seen Survivor and really have no desire to see it. But I don't dare miss an episode of DWTS

    KJ - I think I'm in love

    Yvonne - I wouldn't even mind if Vince didn't put things on the shopping list...but at least tell me so that I can put them on the list. Which interval timer did you download?

    Allie - glad they didn't charge you to retake your passport photo.

    DJ - yup, the seniors would prefer the store bought junk to something homemade. They like knowing what is in the food, even tho I labeled the cookies "Snickerdoodles" (everyone knows what those are) and butterscotch spice. I thought for sure they would like the butterscotch spice since they are real sweet. But those seniors seem to prefer something store bought that they're familiar with

    Lenora - what a therapist you had!

    Michele in NC
  • margaretturk
    margaretturk Posts: 5,246 Member
    Lenora your right you need to be careful who you go for help. Finding the right person or people to help with the burden of carrying such a secret that Sharon and some of the other here is important. You are also right that confronting the person is not always the way towards healing. I know confronting my brother is not the answer for me. What helps me is when I think of him I send him a prayer and wish him well. Will I willingly choose to spend time with him? No, and that is okay.

    :heart: Margaret
  • Poerava14
    Poerava14 Posts: 1,089 Member
    :heart: :wink: :weary:
  • coastalgosgal
    coastalgosgal Posts: 2,900 Member
    hugs y'all!!
    Becca
  • naiomi2015
    naiomi2015 Posts: 95 Member
    Today is the first day that I was able to do 30min. In my exercise machine. When I first started, I would be short of breath after 10 min. I feel good about getting as far as I have. My step tracker says 10,000 steps should be my goal. At this rate I would need to spend 90. Min. on the machine! I think I'll set my goal to consistently do 30 min. That will be an improvement and a goal I have yet to reach.

    I'm a little worried that I have not had my laptop out to do work today. I don't know where the day goes. I get up and do some reading, meals, exercise, laundry and my day is gone. Somehow when I take care of me that's all I can manage or when I work that is all I can manage. It has been a big deal for me to stick w/my calories whether I'm working from home, or on the road, or at home not working. Now I would like to add exercise to that list.

    Naomi in in rainy 54F Massachusetts (Flood warnings are in effect through tomorrow.)
  • therwil
    therwil Posts: 19 Member
    edited April 2017
    Naomigood for you. I feel like that exactly, I focus on my stuff and I have trouble doing the rest of my life. Balance is difficult
  • GodMomKim
    GodMomKim Posts: 3,703 Member
    Hi Gals,

    Allie – I hope for you that Tom can be happy, but a “thing” will only give temporary happiness, real happiness comes from within.

    Michele – I’m going to say something that might sound judgmental, and I really don’t mean it to be, but just a point of view to offer up a different way to look at this. This is how I see the wedding money issue: either you are “gifting” $15K to Denise and dh to be, or are you paying $15K of wedding expenses… If you are paying $15K of wedding expenses the bills should be sent to you and you pay them… when the bills equal $15K you are done, if they don’t turn in bills to equal $15K you don’t “owe” them the difference. If you are gifting the money, it’s theirs – no strings, no hurt feelings, no dipping back into the well by them… If they use it in a way that seems not “smart” it’s really no ones business but theirs…

    I know you are hurt by the situation with both Brian, Denise and Denise’s MIL, but sometimes stepping back and staying out of lets them find their own way.

    Barbie – sorry to hear Jake is not having continued improvement, but am so impressed with the flexibility and good choices you make to take care of both you and him.

    Cheri – your comment about your mom and some other comments about counselors got me thinking about what my therapist got me to understand, that my mom (in the past and currently) does act and say things that are awful, but they are the best she can do at the moment. She is like most folks she doesn’t sit around dreaming up ways to be hurtful or mean, but based on her beliefs, upbringing and understanding does and says things that seem right to her.

    Kelly – Joaquin is adorable

    Heather – I had not seen the pic of grandbabies and folks… what a great shot!

    Gloria – Please don’t feel that you are taking rather than giving, I know I don’t feel that way about your contributions!!!

    Lisa – congrats

    Mia – you can do this!!! I did a 5k with no training once, I was exhausted after, but you can do it.

    Heather – great job on helping out your DOS!

    Yvonne – I hear you on taxes and social security, and here the property tax is high also… I pay everything in installments and even then can’t always make them… I did get a part time job with a company this year and had them take extra out of each paycheck, so the check is very tiny but it helped a ton with the irs bill!

    Sarah – no words….((((((((((((((((hugs)))))))))))))))


    Well it is a blowing winter storm here tonight, when it is like this I am always so thankful I am not homeless, I think of the folks I see here and there that appear to be homeless and I am so glad for a solid roof and walls. I’m planning on being home tomorrow, not setting my alarm (a real treat) so I’ll probably sleep in until 6..



    Smiles

    Kim from N. California
  • GloworminWA
    GloworminWA Posts: 704 Member
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  • klanders30
    klanders30 Posts: 2,569 Member
    Happy Friday, my vacation starts at 5:00 today and boy am i looking forward to it.

    The fiddle fest was a big success, I was very proud of the kids. It is tough, my long time colleague is retiring at the end of the year and the old comfortable easy working relationship amongst my team is just not the same. I will be taking a page from Kelly and "flip" the situation to view it in a more positive light- just need a little time to figure that part out :#

    Beth boy, your husband is really embracing some change, eating, exercising and now sitting down with a financial plan- you are having great influence with him. I wish you much luck with the budget-a long and winding road <3

    Lanette I am not from a musical family but had the good fortune when a violinist moved next door to us when I was 13- I couldn't stay away, I was hooked the minute I heard the sound, I took care of her pets and plants and she started to give me lessons. Music was my refuge and my ticket out of my childhood and has guided my life choices ever since!!

    NYKAREN


  • grandmallie
    grandmallie Posts: 10,067 Member
    morning ladies~ working 9-5 today and have to get DGD on bus ,stop at Post Office and vet before that... nose is running as the trees are budding..
  • lhannon062709
    lhannon062709 Posts: 1,140 Member
    edited April 2017
    Sarah, Carol - It may be of no help at all, but I did a lot of research on obesity and first causes before I had my gastric bypass in 2005. Even then, they acknowledged that more than 25 percent of those who are morbidly obese are childhood abuse survivors. Whether sexual, physical or emotional abuse, trauma ripples through our lives. I believe they're finding the numbers are even higher than that. A staggering 73 percent of those who can't deal with the rapid weight loss and end up being hospitalized for psychiatric issues post-bariatric surgery are abuse survivors.

    I've told the story here more than once, but reflection, both with and separate from therapy, showed me that I had put my personal fat suit on to protect myself from my father. Until he died in late 2004, I wasn't able to contemplate becoming thin, other than one period in the mid-1990s where I lived in England for three years, half a world away from him. The moment I returned to the U.S., I put the weight right back on.

    Essentially, abuse survivors aren't using food as a crutch to soothe our pain, we armor ourselves behind a wall of flesh that feels protective. We feel more imposing, less vulnerable, when we are larger people. And the brain is really, really good at going back to that mode whenever we feel threatened or even stressed. Eventually, food becomes our only coping tool--it's one of the reasons they've identified for those who end up in psychiatric care after they lose a significant amount of weight very quickly from bariatric surgery. They are unable to eat significant amounts in order to cope, and have constructed no other mechanism to deal with stress.

    Didn't mean to write a research paper! A lot of what I just wrote about came from a story in The Atlantic. Loved the ending. "She says the abuse will always tug at her, but today its power is diminished. 'That's just stuff that happened to you,' she said. 'It isn't you.'"

    Love y'all,
    Lisa
  • cityjaneLondon
    cityjaneLondon Posts: 12,678 Member
    I'm off soon for a short trip to see the grandchildren. :D Will get there to pick up Max from school, stay the night and have Saturday with them before coming home at tea time. <3<3<3

    Taking the melamine plates and the croissants! And my beach shoes and sun hat!

    Love Heather UK xxxxxxx
  • fanncy0626
    fanncy0626 Posts: 7,152 Member
    Stronglift Rest Day

    Kettlebell Swing
    Goblet squats-6X5X 35
    Russian kettle bell swing-32X7X 35

    40lbs loss by May 27 Challenge
    Buns, Guns and Abs challenge.
    30 squats
    Rest day push-ups
    35 leg lifts

    April move your @$$ Challenge
    I am going to take 2-2 mile walks today.

    I finally dropped another 0.6 pounds today!

    <3

    Mary from Minnesota
  • BBRRT
    BBRRT Posts: 3 Member
    I have just started the program yesterday, and I am learning to bookmark and manipulate these boards! :) I love the idea of having all of the support and folks to talk with to support each other! I have previously lost weight. I went from 244 down to 165 over a 2 year period. I have gained back up to 181. I have identified a problem that I have never fixed. I have a bewitching hour between 2 to 6 pm, where I cannot stop eating sweets. Sometimes it is truly uncontrollable! My goal for this month is to try and break that sugar addiction. I will record my food in my fitness pal, I will continue to get 30 active minutes in fit bit 5 x per week, and try to get 8000 steps a day minimum. I am starting day 2 of no processed sugar!
  • BBRRT
    BBRRT Posts: 3 Member
    Can you respond to a particular post without going to the end of the page?
  • janetr7476
    janetr7476 Posts: 4,001 Member
    BBRRT wrote: »
    Can you respond to a particular post without going to the end of the page?

    No, you can hit quote as I just did but it will copy the entire post and will always place it at the bottom of the page. For example, if you are responding to a comment on page 8 and there are 10 pages on the thread, your response will appear at the very end of all comments on page 10.

    Welcome to a group of supportive , encouraging ladies. A name we can call you and a location helps us identify you and respond to you more easily. Good job on getting control of the sugar habit now. Hang in there.

    Janetr okc
  • margaretturk
    margaretturk Posts: 5,246 Member
    edited April 2017
    I meant Sarah in my most recent post and not Sharon. I am sorry for the confusion.

    Sarah what a wonderful way of turning your experience to helping others and that you found your own way of focusing on your own wellness. (clapping and cheering)

    Lisa I agree with everything you said. I think it is not just abuse, but trauma too. While on this site I lost 35 pounds, but after going through a series of traumatic effects I regained the weight. I did not binge or turn to junk food in this period, but the weight returned none the less. I know this was a protective reaction of my body. It is also part of my knee problem. It is the left knee. Maybe because I wanted to believe it and it made sense in my particular situation I read troubles with your left knee is a sign of adrenal fatigue. Adrenals are effected by stress.

    Some of the stress is better. Some of it is chronic. I do as many coping strategies as I can and they really have helped. I also have a good support system. (All of your included)

    The weight gain stopped and I am working at healing my knee and I believe the weight will follow as I heal.

    Sarah I like your shotgun analogy. It is having the self knowledge you have these sore points and scars and rather then let them disfigure your life you turn them into something beautiful. YEAH!

    Your DH is lucky to have found such a wonderful women.

    :heart: Margaret
  • SophieRosieMom
    SophieRosieMom Posts: 3,634 Member
    edited April 2017
    Michele in NC - here's the link again to the "Sweet Freedom Summit": http://sweetfreedomsummit.com/?utm_campaign=SWEET17&utm_medium=InviteBox&utm_source=visitor . Since I signed up I'm getting a lot of offers for this and that, so not sure how much substance it will have vs. it being a marketing tool for the gal who is organizing it. Might be a rehash of what most of us already know.

    Rori - that is the cutest photo of you relaxing in Hawaii!! Looks like it was a great place to get batteries recharged.

    Beth - congrats on sitting down with DH and working out that retirement plan. Helps to have both of you on the same page. My latest tactic is, when DH comes up with an idea I don't think is feasible, to say "Interesting, let me think about it" he generally forgets or comes up with something new. When in doubt, stall, LOL. >:) He's not a good money manager and he's the first to admit it. I'm the one doing the spreadsheet and I keep it close. II need to update it and get a copy to our young BFF who has power of attorney.

    Chris - way to go, you've done a wonderful job in reaching your goals. You inspire me! Congrats and enjoy that hot shower!

    Lisa, wow - thanks for that in-depth information about abuse and sharing your story as well. ((((hugs)))) to you and everyone dealing with these issues. <3 And Sarah, more on your story as well. We are so lucky to have this group.

    Has anyone heard from Rita? Hope she's enjoying her great motorhome adventure and having safe travels. Miss her!

    A big windstorm is hitting here about noon - Katla, you'll get it first from what I can tell. Pip, hope your bicycle ride home isn't into the headwind. Sue, Anita, Gloria, Barbie and the rest of you in the Pacific Northwest-stay safe and watch for falling trees. I need to run to town this morning and DH says don't dawdle as the road I travel has lots of leaning trees and them falling onto cars is not uncommon. Hoping our greenhouse plastic stays put.

    Have a great Friday everyone!!

    Lanette
    SW WA State ready to hold onto her hat.


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    csofled Posts: 3,022 Member
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  • Katla49
    Katla49 Posts: 10,385 Member
    Heather: The inability to digest milk products is something I share with scores of others around the world. I don't think either one of my parents had this problem, or if they did, they ignored it. Mom always used margarine rather than butter and I think it was for economic reasons. Milk envy is just something I have to deal with. Cheese is okay for me. Whatever turns the milk into cheese solves my digestive problems. The harder the cheese, the less likely it is to cause an upset. :bigsmile:

    Sarah: I'm sorry for the girl you were and amazed by the woman you've become. Rant whenever you need to rant. We all have issues, big and small. It is great to have friends who can hear them without making excuses or passing judgment. :flowerforyou:

    Carol: You've grown into an amazing woman. I admire you for your balanced view of your dad. :star:

    Rae Ann: Welcome to a great group of women. :smiley:

    Lanette: Have you ever gone to the Fiddle Festival in Weiser, Idaho? We went one time when our kids were in grade school, and it was so much fun. I'm not quite sure why we've never gone back. :flowerforyou:

    Kim: I think your perspective on giving to the kids is a wise one. :star:


    Yoga today with my very favorite teacher! Yay!!! In other good news, it looks like I will have a riding lesson this weekend after all. I didn't expect it because my teacher had a conflict in her schedule. Things in her life have shifted some and there will be a lesson after all. Yay again!

    Katla in beautiful NW Oregon

    "That which doesn't kill us, makes us stronger." Friedrich Nietzsche

  • Lagopus
    Lagopus Posts: 1,016 Member
    gotu52 wrote: »
    Here's what's so hard. My father was very famous. [...] He did great things for many people while his family was neglected in the background. [...] It is hard to live my whole life being told how wonderful my father was when I had a different experience.
    Sarah dear heart, thanks for telling your story. It's a situation I can scarcely comprehend, as I felt safe and well cared for throughout my childhood. Honestly, until I was in my late teens, the only family conflicts I knew of were the ones in fairy tales.

    The sentences I've quoted bring to mind the working title of Heather's memoir: "Such a nice man". As others have mentioned, versions of your experience are shared by several of the beautiful women on this thread. Whenever I hear about them, it reminds me how lucky I am.

    My back is hurting me now so I'm going out for a walk in the hope of producing some endorphins. Even if the grandchildren are coming in tomorrow evening, I'm not going to be rearranging furniture and putting sheets on the daybeds anytime soon. :confused:

    /Penny, in a bit of pain at the North Pole

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