Is a 1000 calorie diet harmful?
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I don't get a warning and can complete my diary provided I meet 1000 (but I never do go that low-just hit it by accident on my phone). Are you sure OP is infringing the rules?
Eta: sorry, didn't notice the multiple pages. This has doubtless been covered.1 -
VintageFeline wrote: »Well now I feel like my life has been a lie, is 5'5 considered little!? I thought I was average!
As someone that isn't even 5 foot I think 5'5 is positively tall. I'd also say that guidelines which say a minimum of 1000 would only be for those of my height and less, close to goal weight, where our BMI is less than 1200 and our NEAT isn't much over 1200 to begin with. Even then I lost weight eating at a minimum of 1200, I did it by only eating back half of my exercise calories. I'd hate to only have 1000 calories to work with a day.
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nutmegoreo wrote: »Traveler120 wrote: »SunflowerDaisey wrote: »
I don't understand why people are being rude. I just asked a question. This is the help section and it's very discouraging. I probably will never ask a question on here again.MysteriousLeigh wrote: »
My advice is to listen to your body, not random people on the internet. All you need to ask yourself is -Are you losing at a reasonable rate? How does your body feel? What do your lab tests show? etc. If all is well, then all is well, regardless of what people say here.
Plus, you said 1000 NET, which to me means you're subtracting exercise from your TOTAL intake. Regardless, I think if someone is eating and feeling full, it doesn't matter what the calorie amount is. There's no reason to eat more if you're not hungry. Your body will tell you what's up. If you're hungry, eat some more. If you're not, don't. That's how people who don't count calories yet are at healthy weight do it.
There are some difficulties in meeting nutritional needs with a lower calorie limit. From personal experience, to have a fully balanced day, I need about 1550 calories. Could it be done on less, probably, but I can lose just fine on 1600, so why mess with it........
Just because YOU do it one way doesn't mean it can't be done any other way. A person can pack a lot of vitamins and minerals in 1000 calories if they're clever about food choices such as nutrient dense fruits and veggies with very little processed foods, added oils etc. And you don't need a dietician to tell you if your diet is providing essential vitamins and minerals, one can just use cronometer.com for that.. It's not that complicated.
If they eat that way, they can end up with a significant volume of food as well which means they'll avoid hunger. That in turn will make it more sustainable until they lose the excess weight. So, no, eating a given # of calories doesn't guarantee that it meets nutritional needs. Eating nutrient dense whole foods in the right amounts and verifying on a proper tracker (not mfp), does.
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SunflowerDaisey wrote: »Hello. I'm 5'5 154lbs. I have been eating 1000 calories net. I always meet my protein and carb goal. I don't always meet the fat goal. I eat really healthy and get lots of vitamins. I also take a vitamin tablet just in case. I also don't binge on junk to gain everything back. Is this diet okay or harmful?
Unless you have been directed to undergo such a calorie-restricted diet by a qualified medical professional, yes. It is dangerous. It actually borders on the level of restriction that would put someone at-risk for an eating disorder. Your body will not function properly on 1,000 calories every single day.1 -
Lillymoo01 wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »Well now I feel like my life has been a lie, is 5'5 considered little!? I thought I was average!
As someone that isn't even 5 foot I think 5'5 is positively tall. I'd also say that guidelines which say a minimum of 1000 would only be for those of my height and less, close to goal weight, where our BMI is less than 1200 and our NEAT isn't much over 1200 to begin with. Even then I lost weight eating at a minimum of 1200, I did it by only eating back half of my exercise calories. I'd hate to only have 1000 calories to work with a day.
Haha I'm 5"8 and 5'5 or below is little to me. My 25 year old daughter is around 5'2 and hugging her feels like hugging a small child lol
I've always wanted to be short and petite, but then i read about the low calories some of these women have to eat, and i change my mind. But if i didn't have to worry about calories and was naturally slim, i would love to be a few inches shorter.0 -
SiegfriedXXL wrote: »[]
Actually according to this upon complete information a diary entry on mfp...
NIH says 1000-1200 is the minimum for women...
Wow, this is new. Men can go down to 1200? I've done that a couple of times and I wanted to eat the world the next day, whether it was living or already cooked.
Part of the reason they keep lowering the recommendations is that there's evidence that the vast majority of people can't accurately count calories. So, most people who *think* they're eating 1200 are actually eating more. Canada Food Guide's current "recommended calories" for women would be weight loss calories for almost any woman who could accurately count, but they build in "wiggle room" to account for the expected underestimation. Which, of course, completely messes up anyone who actually can count accurately.
Frankly, having a hard minimum that's the same for everyone is silly anyway. A tall woman and a short woman will have different nutritional needs, and there's no meaningful difference between eating 1199 and eating 1200. But we humans like our rules, I guess. (And our round numbers. There's a reason all the calorie recommendations are multiples of 100 and all the BMI ranges cut off at a multiple of 5. The only exception is 18.5, and that used to be 20 before they realized that classified perfectly healthy short fine-boned women as "underweight".)5 -
Traveler120 wrote: »My advice is to listen to your body, not random people on the internet. All you need to ask yourself is -Are you losing at a reasonable rate? How does your body feel? What do your lab tests show? etc. If all is well, then all is well, regardless of what people say here.
Plus, you said 1000 NET, which to me means you're subtracting exercise from your TOTAL intake. Regardless, I think if someone is eating and feeling full, it doesn't matter what the calorie amount is. There's no reason to eat more if you're not hungry. Your body will tell you what's up. If you're hungry, eat some more. If you're not, don't. That's how people who don't count calories yet are at healthy weight do it.
Best advice here.1 -
fitmom4lifemfp wrote: »Traveler120 wrote: »My advice is to listen to your body, not random people on the internet. All you need to ask yourself is -Are you losing at a reasonable rate? How does your body feel? What do your lab tests show? etc. If all is well, then all is well, regardless of what people say here.
Plus, you said 1000 NET, which to me means you're subtracting exercise from your TOTAL intake. Regardless, I think if someone is eating and feeling full, it doesn't matter what the calorie amount is. There's no reason to eat more if you're not hungry. Your body will tell you what's up. If you're hungry, eat some more. If you're not, don't. That's how people who don't count calories yet are at healthy weight do it.
Best advice here.
Listening to their body and it lying to you is the reason most people are here in the first place...28 -
stevencloser wrote: »fitmom4lifemfp wrote: »Traveler120 wrote: »My advice is to listen to your body, not random people on the internet. All you need to ask yourself is -Are you losing at a reasonable rate? How does your body feel? What do your lab tests show? etc. If all is well, then all is well, regardless of what people say here.
Plus, you said 1000 NET, which to me means you're subtracting exercise from your TOTAL intake. Regardless, I think if someone is eating and feeling full, it doesn't matter what the calorie amount is. There's no reason to eat more if you're not hungry. Your body will tell you what's up. If you're hungry, eat some more. If you're not, don't. That's how people who don't count calories yet are at healthy weight do it.
Best advice here.
Listening to their body and it lying to you is the reason most people are here in the first place...
QFT.3 -
Traveler120 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »Traveler120 wrote: »SunflowerDaisey wrote: »
I don't understand why people are being rude. I just asked a question. This is the help section and it's very discouraging. I probably will never ask a question on here again.MysteriousLeigh wrote: »
My advice is to listen to your body, not random people on the internet. All you need to ask yourself is -Are you losing at a reasonable rate? How does your body feel? What do your lab tests show? etc. If all is well, then all is well, regardless of what people say here.
Plus, you said 1000 NET, which to me means you're subtracting exercise from your TOTAL intake. Regardless, I think if someone is eating and feeling full, it doesn't matter what the calorie amount is. There's no reason to eat more if you're not hungry. Your body will tell you what's up. If you're hungry, eat some more. If you're not, don't. That's how people who don't count calories yet are at healthy weight do it.
There are some difficulties in meeting nutritional needs with a lower calorie limit. From personal experience, to have a fully balanced day, I need about 1550 calories. Could it be done on less, probably, but I can lose just fine on 1600, so why mess with it........
Just because YOU do it one way doesn't mean it can't be done any other way. A person can pack a lot of vitamins and minerals in 1000 calories if they're clever about food choices such as nutrient dense fruits and veggies with very little processed foods, added oils etc. And you don't need a dietician to tell you if your diet is providing essential vitamins and minerals, one can just use cronometer.com for that.. It's not that complicated.
If they eat that way, they can end up with a significant volume of food as well which means they'll avoid hunger. That in turn will make it more sustainable until they lose the excess weight. So, no, eating a given # of calories doesn't guarantee that it meets nutritional needs. Eating nutrient dense whole foods in the right amounts and verifying on a proper tracker (not mfp), does.
I said that it was possible that balance could be achieved on less. And just as much as more calories doesn't mean balance will be reached, the chances are certainly reduced with a lower limit.6 -
stevencloser wrote: »fitmom4lifemfp wrote: »Traveler120 wrote: »My advice is to listen to your body, not random people on the internet. All you need to ask yourself is -Are you losing at a reasonable rate? How does your body feel? What do your lab tests show? etc. If all is well, then all is well, regardless of what people say here.
Plus, you said 1000 NET, which to me means you're subtracting exercise from your TOTAL intake. Regardless, I think if someone is eating and feeling full, it doesn't matter what the calorie amount is. There's no reason to eat more if you're not hungry. Your body will tell you what's up. If you're hungry, eat some more. If you're not, don't. That's how people who don't count calories yet are at healthy weight do it.
Best advice here.
Listening to their body and it lying to you is the reason most people are here in the first place...
I disagree. They are not listening - that's the problem.1 -
Well my mom has been living on a diet less then 1000 calories for 64 years, she's in general very slim and doesn't like to eat, doesn't get much pleasure from food. She doesn't count calories so I can't tell you exact numbers but I suspect she has 600-800 a day, maybe 1000 on a big day.
But she's been like that all her life and her body is used to it, it's normal to her body. You in contrarily trying to lose weight meaning you're used to much more food and that aggressive limitation in calories might be hurtful to you.0 -
fitmom4lifemfp wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »fitmom4lifemfp wrote: »Traveler120 wrote: »My advice is to listen to your body, not random people on the internet. All you need to ask yourself is -Are you losing at a reasonable rate? How does your body feel? What do your lab tests show? etc. If all is well, then all is well, regardless of what people say here.
Plus, you said 1000 NET, which to me means you're subtracting exercise from your TOTAL intake. Regardless, I think if someone is eating and feeling full, it doesn't matter what the calorie amount is. There's no reason to eat more if you're not hungry. Your body will tell you what's up. If you're hungry, eat some more. If you're not, don't. That's how people who don't count calories yet are at healthy weight do it.
Best advice here.
Listening to their body and it lying to you is the reason most people are here in the first place...
I disagree. They are not listening - that's the problem.
Broken hunger signals are a thing.7 -
fitmom4lifemfp wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »fitmom4lifemfp wrote: »Traveler120 wrote: »My advice is to listen to your body, not random people on the internet. All you need to ask yourself is -Are you losing at a reasonable rate? How does your body feel? What do your lab tests show? etc. If all is well, then all is well, regardless of what people say here.
Plus, you said 1000 NET, which to me means you're subtracting exercise from your TOTAL intake. Regardless, I think if someone is eating and feeling full, it doesn't matter what the calorie amount is. There's no reason to eat more if you're not hungry. Your body will tell you what's up. If you're hungry, eat some more. If you're not, don't. That's how people who don't count calories yet are at healthy weight do it.
Best advice here.
Listening to their body and it lying to you is the reason most people are here in the first place...
I disagree. They are not listening - that's the problem.
A lot of people don't listen to the "not hungry" vs. "full".stevencloser wrote: »fitmom4lifemfp wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »fitmom4lifemfp wrote: »Traveler120 wrote: »My advice is to listen to your body, not random people on the internet. All you need to ask yourself is -Are you losing at a reasonable rate? How does your body feel? What do your lab tests show? etc. If all is well, then all is well, regardless of what people say here.
Plus, you said 1000 NET, which to me means you're subtracting exercise from your TOTAL intake. Regardless, I think if someone is eating and feeling full, it doesn't matter what the calorie amount is. There's no reason to eat more if you're not hungry. Your body will tell you what's up. If you're hungry, eat some more. If you're not, don't. That's how people who don't count calories yet are at healthy weight do it.
Best advice here.
Listening to their body and it lying to you is the reason most people are here in the first place...
I disagree. They are not listening - that's the problem.
Broken hunger signals are a thing.
Or they're listening to the wrong thing. They're trying to stay "full" all the time. They're listening to their brain throwing out "Bored? Eat something!" rather than actual hunger. It is possible to learn to tell the difference.0 -
fitmom4lifemfp wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »fitmom4lifemfp wrote: »Traveler120 wrote: »My advice is to listen to your body, not random people on the internet. All you need to ask yourself is -Are you losing at a reasonable rate? How does your body feel? What do your lab tests show? etc. If all is well, then all is well, regardless of what people say here.
Plus, you said 1000 NET, which to me means you're subtracting exercise from your TOTAL intake. Regardless, I think if someone is eating and feeling full, it doesn't matter what the calorie amount is. There's no reason to eat more if you're not hungry. Your body will tell you what's up. If you're hungry, eat some more. If you're not, don't. That's how people who don't count calories yet are at healthy weight do it.
Best advice here.
Listening to their body and it lying to you is the reason most people are here in the first place...
I disagree. They are not listening - that's the problem.
I listened to mine. It was hungry all the time. It was a huge liar.6 -
stevencloser wrote: »fitmom4lifemfp wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »fitmom4lifemfp wrote: »Traveler120 wrote: »My advice is to listen to your body, not random people on the internet. All you need to ask yourself is -Are you losing at a reasonable rate? How does your body feel? What do your lab tests show? etc. If all is well, then all is well, regardless of what people say here.
Plus, you said 1000 NET, which to me means you're subtracting exercise from your TOTAL intake. Regardless, I think if someone is eating and feeling full, it doesn't matter what the calorie amount is. There's no reason to eat more if you're not hungry. Your body will tell you what's up. If you're hungry, eat some more. If you're not, don't. That's how people who don't count calories yet are at healthy weight do it.
Best advice here.
Listening to their body and it lying to you is the reason most people are here in the first place...
I disagree. They are not listening - that's the problem.
Broken hunger signals are a thing.
True, but it seems the OP's hunger signals are functioning normally given she said this:SunflowerDaisey wrote: »I don't binge and I don't like lots of junk food at a time. I'm completely satisfied. It's why I was wondering if it's okay, but thank you for your help.
I say yes, it's okay. For people to tell her it's harmful to eat the amount she's eating and yet she's satisfied eating that amount, is essentially telling her to overide her own body's natural signals and instead eat more according to some arbitrary number of calorie minimum. I find that ridiculous.1 -
cerise_noir wrote: »fitmom4lifemfp wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »fitmom4lifemfp wrote: »Traveler120 wrote: »My advice is to listen to your body, not random people on the internet. All you need to ask yourself is -Are you losing at a reasonable rate? How does your body feel? What do your lab tests show? etc. If all is well, then all is well, regardless of what people say here.
Plus, you said 1000 NET, which to me means you're subtracting exercise from your TOTAL intake. Regardless, I think if someone is eating and feeling full, it doesn't matter what the calorie amount is. There's no reason to eat more if you're not hungry. Your body will tell you what's up. If you're hungry, eat some more. If you're not, don't. That's how people who don't count calories yet are at healthy weight do it.
Best advice here.
Listening to their body and it lying to you is the reason most people are here in the first place...
I disagree. They are not listening - that's the problem.
I listened to mine. It was hungry all the time. It was a huge liar.
Mine said "hungry, time to eat!" whenever I was used to eating.
When I first broke that irritating habit, even though I was (without yet realizing it) eating under 1000, it said "don't feel like I absolutely NEED to eat, so I must have no reason to eat more, since less is better."
Then when I started logging and realized I was eating so low (weight loss reflected it too), I added back in some more calories (started using some oil and cheese in cooking again, not a lot, but some, added back enjoyable foods like olives and nuts and seeds and included some avocado, allowed myself reasonable portions of starches like potatoes and occasional pasta). Got my calories up to around 1250 net, which was my goal then. My mind kept saying "but I am OKAY on less, so I must not need to eat more, it must be better to eat less," but my better judgment said that 1250 was a reasonable calorie goal and it wasn't good to feel bad or like a failure for hitting it, even if it meant that I could have less restrictive, "just-the-necessities" meals, and so I did it.
Retraining my hunger meant I was hungry at meal times only, but adding back more calories I think helped me create a sustainable and even fun way of eating while losing -- I enjoyed how I was eating MORE than I had before losing, which I don't think would have been the case if I'd stuck with the "better to eat the lowest possible calories that I won't actually feel like I need to eat more on" attitude that I think a lot of us imbibe as part of the weight loss ethos.
It wasn't just MFP that wised me up, but I am glad that people at MFP opened my mind. I rejected plenty of things I heard on MFP at the time or dismissed them as not applying to me (I'm not a binger, for example, so it wasn't really a concern), but it was helpful to have people counter the idea that I should eat as little as possible or that not doing so was a sign of weakness or failure or that it is bad to take pleasure in food.7 -
Traveler120 wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »fitmom4lifemfp wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »fitmom4lifemfp wrote: »Traveler120 wrote: »My advice is to listen to your body, not random people on the internet. All you need to ask yourself is -Are you losing at a reasonable rate? How does your body feel? What do your lab tests show? etc. If all is well, then all is well, regardless of what people say here.
Plus, you said 1000 NET, which to me means you're subtracting exercise from your TOTAL intake. Regardless, I think if someone is eating and feeling full, it doesn't matter what the calorie amount is. There's no reason to eat more if you're not hungry. Your body will tell you what's up. If you're hungry, eat some more. If you're not, don't. That's how people who don't count calories yet are at healthy weight do it.
Best advice here.
Listening to their body and it lying to you is the reason most people are here in the first place...
I disagree. They are not listening - that's the problem.
Broken hunger signals are a thing.
True, but it seems the OP's hunger signals are functioning normally given she said this:SunflowerDaisey wrote: »I don't binge and I don't like lots of junk food at a time. I'm completely satisfied. It's why I was wondering if it's okay, but thank you for your help.
I say yes, it's okay. For people to tell her it's harmful to eat the amount she's eating and yet she's satisfied eating that amount, is essentially telling her to overide her own body's natural signals and instead eat more according to some arbitrary number of calorie minimum. I find that ridiculous.
Broken hunger signals can go both ways... Not feeling full even though you've eaten a lot and feeling full even though you've barely eaten. Never been sick and barely felt like eating? That, but constantly from bad habits like, oh I dunno, consistently undereating.10 -
stevencloser wrote: »Traveler120 wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »fitmom4lifemfp wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »fitmom4lifemfp wrote: »Traveler120 wrote: »My advice is to listen to your body, not random people on the internet. All you need to ask yourself is -Are you losing at a reasonable rate? How does your body feel? What do your lab tests show? etc. If all is well, then all is well, regardless of what people say here.
Plus, you said 1000 NET, which to me means you're subtracting exercise from your TOTAL intake. Regardless, I think if someone is eating and feeling full, it doesn't matter what the calorie amount is. There's no reason to eat more if you're not hungry. Your body will tell you what's up. If you're hungry, eat some more. If you're not, don't. That's how people who don't count calories yet are at healthy weight do it.
Best advice here.
Listening to their body and it lying to you is the reason most people are here in the first place...
I disagree. They are not listening - that's the problem.
Broken hunger signals are a thing.
True, but it seems the OP's hunger signals are functioning normally given she said this:SunflowerDaisey wrote: »I don't binge and I don't like lots of junk food at a time. I'm completely satisfied. It's why I was wondering if it's okay, but thank you for your help.
I say yes, it's okay. For people to tell her it's harmful to eat the amount she's eating and yet she's satisfied eating that amount, is essentially telling her to overide her own body's natural signals and instead eat more according to some arbitrary number of calorie minimum. I find that ridiculous.
Broken hunger signals can go both ways... Not feeling full even though you've eaten a lot and feeling full even though you've barely eaten. Never been sick and barely felt like eating? That, but constantly from bad habits like, oh I dunno, consistently undereating.
Also, as I tried to get at in my post above, the confusion about what your body is telling you can go both ways.
When gaining, maybe you felt "hunger" due to boredom or habit or sadness. You learn it's not real hunger. Great!
But very often when dieting people think the only good reason to eat (beyond their very low cal, low fat and low carb, diet meals) is actually feeling like you can't stand not doing so, feeling uncomfortably hungry or actively miserable or starving. The message is eat as little as you can manage, and don't eat more unless you have to. If you have broken hunger signals or are confused about what hunger is supposed to feel like (or don't trust yourself), it's easy to make this into a toughness competition: I'm okay, not miserable, don't feel sick, so I must not be hungry.
Problem is that's not sustainable and it sets you up to feel like a failure if you can't keep it up, as well as setting unrealistic expectations for yourself, eating in a way that's not healthy longterm (more muscle loss, probably less energy than you would have, even if you don't immediately experience that or just feel good from the weight loss). I also found, for myself, that getting into a state of mind where eating as little as possible seems like a possible, makes me feel stronger and tougher, is all too easy.
I think these are the kinds of things people are worried about, not that they are telling someone that she needs to stuff in food that she feels far too full to be eating. People also aren't talking about a one day thing, but over time. It's true that unless someone is quite small and sedentary I'd think that if you genuinely feel that eating more than 1000 calories will make you feel overstuffed and sick (assuming this is going on for days and the weight loss indicates you are counting correctly), that that's a reason to see a doctor, as it's not normal.
But I doubt that's the deal here, just speaking generally.5 -
http://www.livestrong.com/article/296783-will-eating-1000-calories-a-day-cause-weight-loss/
I'm unsure I always end up around the 1000 - 1100 kcal myself, but maybe I should eat more. I've bought some protein powder to help with this.0 -
stevencloser wrote: »Traveler120 wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »fitmom4lifemfp wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »fitmom4lifemfp wrote: »Traveler120 wrote: »My advice is to listen to your body, not random people on the internet. All you need to ask yourself is -Are you losing at a reasonable rate? How does your body feel? What do your lab tests show? etc. If all is well, then all is well, regardless of what people say here.
Plus, you said 1000 NET, which to me means you're subtracting exercise from your TOTAL intake. Regardless, I think if someone is eating and feeling full, it doesn't matter what the calorie amount is. There's no reason to eat more if you're not hungry. Your body will tell you what's up. If you're hungry, eat some more. If you're not, don't. That's how people who don't count calories yet are at healthy weight do it.
Best advice here.
Listening to their body and it lying to you is the reason most people are here in the first place...
I disagree. They are not listening - that's the problem.
Broken hunger signals are a thing.
True, but it seems the OP's hunger signals are functioning normally given she said this:SunflowerDaisey wrote: »I don't binge and I don't like lots of junk food at a time. I'm completely satisfied. It's why I was wondering if it's okay, but thank you for your help.
I say yes, it's okay. For people to tell her it's harmful to eat the amount she's eating and yet she's satisfied eating that amount, is essentially telling her to overide her own body's natural signals and instead eat more according to some arbitrary number of calorie minimum. I find that ridiculous.
Broken hunger signals can go both ways... Not feeling full even though you've eaten a lot and feeling full even though you've barely eaten. Never been sick and barely felt like eating? That, but constantly from bad habits like, oh I dunno, consistently undereating.
If she was consistently undereating she wouldn't be overweight!
And there's nothing 'broken' about not feeling hungry even though one hasn't eaten much on a given day. That's perfectly normal. People who have weight to lose especially, should not force themselves to eat when they're not hungry.That makes no sense.1 -
There's a lot to be said for not swapping one type of disordered relationship with food for another. So yes, there is merit in making sure you eat enough over time. The odd not hungry day? Not a problem. A perpetual habit over time? Yes, a problem. There are long term health implications that may not even show up until much further down the line. Osteoporosis being one of them.
And let's face it, it's not hard to a couple hundred calories or so to a day without feeling "so stuffed I might throw up", simply by adding a dressing or cooking with oil. Hey presto and it has the added bonus of upping fat intake which I strongly suspect is going to be quite low for someone averaging 1000 calories because there's not much room for fats.
And what's the problem with being low fat? They are essential for nutrient absorption and hormone function.
Can 1000 calories be appropriate for very petite, older, more sedentary women? Sometimes. Is it appropriate for someone who is 5'5 and exercising, even if on some days the intake is closer to 1200? I would suggest no and I don't understand why there is so much resistance to this line of thought. Getting to healthy weight is of course important but it shouldn't be the aim to get there as fast as possible to the potential detriment of health.
Might you come out unscathed? Maybe. Is it worth the risk? Not to me, no.11 -
Traveler120 wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »Traveler120 wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »fitmom4lifemfp wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »fitmom4lifemfp wrote: »Traveler120 wrote: »My advice is to listen to your body, not random people on the internet. All you need to ask yourself is -Are you losing at a reasonable rate? How does your body feel? What do your lab tests show? etc. If all is well, then all is well, regardless of what people say here.
Plus, you said 1000 NET, which to me means you're subtracting exercise from your TOTAL intake. Regardless, I think if someone is eating and feeling full, it doesn't matter what the calorie amount is. There's no reason to eat more if you're not hungry. Your body will tell you what's up. If you're hungry, eat some more. If you're not, don't. That's how people who don't count calories yet are at healthy weight do it.
Best advice here.
Listening to their body and it lying to you is the reason most people are here in the first place...
I disagree. They are not listening - that's the problem.
Broken hunger signals are a thing.
True, but it seems the OP's hunger signals are functioning normally given she said this:SunflowerDaisey wrote: »I don't binge and I don't like lots of junk food at a time. I'm completely satisfied. It's why I was wondering if it's okay, but thank you for your help.
I say yes, it's okay. For people to tell her it's harmful to eat the amount she's eating and yet she's satisfied eating that amount, is essentially telling her to overide her own body's natural signals and instead eat more according to some arbitrary number of calorie minimum. I find that ridiculous.
Broken hunger signals can go both ways... Not feeling full even though you've eaten a lot and feeling full even though you've barely eaten. Never been sick and barely felt like eating? That, but constantly from bad habits like, oh I dunno, consistently undereating.
If she was consistently undereating she wouldn't be overweight!
Presumably she's eating differently than when she was gaining weight or maintaining a slightly overweight weight.And there's nothing 'broken' about not feeling hungry even though one hasn't eaten much on a given day. That's perfectly normal.
Yes, it is. No one is talking about how one feels on one particular day, but over time.People who have weight to lose especially, should not force themselves to eat when they're not hungry.That makes no sense.
No one is talking about "forcing" yourself to eat. If it requires forcing and she really isn't eating more than 1000, that's problematic too. It really shouldn't be hard for a 5'5, 150 lb young woman to eat more than 1000 on average daily over the course of a few weeks. That kind of change is the sign of a medical or other issue, but here OP didn't suggest she has that problem.
The question is whether "oh, I feel okay, I don't NEED to eat more" is because on a particular day she's eating plenty and is maintaining a sensible overall deficit (taking the week as a whole, say), or if it is because her mind is telling her that she shouldn't eat unless she really feels no energy or miserable or like she has to eat. For many of us, especially in the early stages of weight loss, the mind easily goes into "I'm fine" even with really low calories, and you don't trust yourself so worry that eating more than you absolutely have to is you being weak and that real hunger must be absolutely strong and irresistible so if you don't feel bad you must be eating plenty, no matter what.
There's a huge gray area between when you must force yourself to eat because you'd really had as much as yu can stand and when you feel like you absolutely need food, at least when you've deal with the issues some (by no means all) have with interpreting not feeling full as "need to eat."8 -
depends if your working out i average out around 1000 after i take off 500 from a work out and feel great and not hungry
alt ought it depends what your eating
im not drinking any of my calories not even alcohol or coffee and eat mainly greens0 -
My question to you is: What are you going to do when you reach your goal? Do you have a maintenance plan?0
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stevencloser wrote: »fitmom4lifemfp wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »fitmom4lifemfp wrote: »Traveler120 wrote: »My advice is to listen to your body, not random people on the internet. All you need to ask yourself is -Are you losing at a reasonable rate? How does your body feel? What do your lab tests show? etc. If all is well, then all is well, regardless of what people say here.
Plus, you said 1000 NET, which to me means you're subtracting exercise from your TOTAL intake. Regardless, I think if someone is eating and feeling full, it doesn't matter what the calorie amount is. There's no reason to eat more if you're not hungry. Your body will tell you what's up. If you're hungry, eat some more. If you're not, don't. That's how people who don't count calories yet are at healthy weight do it.
Best advice here.
Listening to their body and it lying to you is the reason most people are here in the first place...
I disagree. They are not listening - that's the problem.
Broken hunger signals are a thing.
The scale doesn't lie.
As far as real hunger, most new folks that come here have completely lost any perspective as to what "hunger" is. And they got that way by eating until the body says "I'm full" rather than eating until the body says "I'm not hungry". Definitely not listening, not paying attention to what the body really says. I'm guilty of the same. We all did it, at some point.1 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »Traveler120 wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »Traveler120 wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »fitmom4lifemfp wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »fitmom4lifemfp wrote: »Traveler120 wrote: »My advice is to listen to your body, not random people on the internet. All you need to ask yourself is -Are you losing at a reasonable rate? How does your body feel? What do your lab tests show? etc. If all is well, then all is well, regardless of what people say here.
Plus, you said 1000 NET, which to me means you're subtracting exercise from your TOTAL intake. Regardless, I think if someone is eating and feeling full, it doesn't matter what the calorie amount is. There's no reason to eat more if you're not hungry. Your body will tell you what's up. If you're hungry, eat some more. If you're not, don't. That's how people who don't count calories yet are at healthy weight do it.
Best advice here.
Listening to their body and it lying to you is the reason most people are here in the first place...
I disagree. They are not listening - that's the problem.
Broken hunger signals are a thing.
True, but it seems the OP's hunger signals are functioning normally given she said this:SunflowerDaisey wrote: »I don't binge and I don't like lots of junk food at a time. I'm completely satisfied. It's why I was wondering if it's okay, but thank you for your help.
I say yes, it's okay. For people to tell her it's harmful to eat the amount she's eating and yet she's satisfied eating that amount, is essentially telling her to overide her own body's natural signals and instead eat more according to some arbitrary number of calorie minimum. I find that ridiculous.
Broken hunger signals can go both ways... Not feeling full even though you've eaten a lot and feeling full even though you've barely eaten. Never been sick and barely felt like eating? That, but constantly from bad habits like, oh I dunno, consistently undereating.
If she was consistently undereating she wouldn't be overweight!
Presumably she's eating differently than when she was gaining weight or maintaining a slightly overweight weight.And there's nothing 'broken' about not feeling hungry even though one hasn't eaten much on a given day. That's perfectly normal.
Yes, it is. No one is talking about how one feels on one particular day, but over time.People who have weight to lose especially, should not force themselves to eat when they're not hungry.That makes no sense.
No one is talking about "forcing" yourself to eat. If it requires forcing and she really isn't eating more than 1000, that's problematic too. It really shouldn't be hard for a 5'5, 150 lb young woman to eat more than 1000 on average daily over the course of a few weeks. That kind of change is the sign of a medical or other issue, but here OP didn't suggest she has that problem.
The question is whether "oh, I feel okay, I don't NEED to eat more" is because on a particular day she's eating plenty and is maintaining a sensible overall deficit (taking the week as a whole, say), or if it is because her mind is telling her that she shouldn't eat unless she really feels no energy or miserable or like she has to eat. For many of us, especially in the early stages of weight loss, the mind easily goes into "I'm fine" even with really low calories, and you don't trust yourself so worry that eating more than you absolutely have to is you being weak and that real hunger must be absolutely strong and irresistible so if you don't feel bad you must be eating plenty, no matter what.
There's a huge gray area between when you must force yourself to eat because you'd really had as much as yu can stand and when you feel like you absolutely need food, at least when you've deal with the issues some (by no means all) have with interpreting not feeling full as "need to eat."
This all sounds like a massive overanalysis and overthinking of a simple matter. The girl said she's "completely satisfied" and just wondering if it's harmful to eat 1000/day. If she feels fine, and her food choices are providing essential vitamins and minerals, then the simple answer is NO, even if she did that for say, 4 weeks straight and not just a day here and there.3 -
cerise_noir wrote: »fitmom4lifemfp wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »fitmom4lifemfp wrote: »Traveler120 wrote: »My advice is to listen to your body, not random people on the internet. All you need to ask yourself is -Are you losing at a reasonable rate? How does your body feel? What do your lab tests show? etc. If all is well, then all is well, regardless of what people say here.
Plus, you said 1000 NET, which to me means you're subtracting exercise from your TOTAL intake. Regardless, I think if someone is eating and feeling full, it doesn't matter what the calorie amount is. There's no reason to eat more if you're not hungry. Your body will tell you what's up. If you're hungry, eat some more. If you're not, don't. That's how people who don't count calories yet are at healthy weight do it.
Best advice here.
Listening to their body and it lying to you is the reason most people are here in the first place...
I disagree. They are not listening - that's the problem.
I listened to mine. It was hungry all the time. It was a huge liar.
I can't speak as to what you really feel. However I do believe that if people really only ate when then were TRULY hungry, and only ate until they were NOT hungry, and not simply craving food/eating out of habit, (there is a difference), they wouldn't overeat and would not get fat.2 -
Traveler120 wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »Traveler120 wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »Traveler120 wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »fitmom4lifemfp wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »fitmom4lifemfp wrote: »Traveler120 wrote: »My advice is to listen to your body, not random people on the internet. All you need to ask yourself is -Are you losing at a reasonable rate? How does your body feel? What do your lab tests show? etc. If all is well, then all is well, regardless of what people say here.
Plus, you said 1000 NET, which to me means you're subtracting exercise from your TOTAL intake. Regardless, I think if someone is eating and feeling full, it doesn't matter what the calorie amount is. There's no reason to eat more if you're not hungry. Your body will tell you what's up. If you're hungry, eat some more. If you're not, don't. That's how people who don't count calories yet are at healthy weight do it.
Best advice here.
Listening to their body and it lying to you is the reason most people are here in the first place...
I disagree. They are not listening - that's the problem.
Broken hunger signals are a thing.
True, but it seems the OP's hunger signals are functioning normally given she said this:SunflowerDaisey wrote: »I don't binge and I don't like lots of junk food at a time. I'm completely satisfied. It's why I was wondering if it's okay, but thank you for your help.
I say yes, it's okay. For people to tell her it's harmful to eat the amount she's eating and yet she's satisfied eating that amount, is essentially telling her to overide her own body's natural signals and instead eat more according to some arbitrary number of calorie minimum. I find that ridiculous.
Broken hunger signals can go both ways... Not feeling full even though you've eaten a lot and feeling full even though you've barely eaten. Never been sick and barely felt like eating? That, but constantly from bad habits like, oh I dunno, consistently undereating.
If she was consistently undereating she wouldn't be overweight!
Presumably she's eating differently than when she was gaining weight or maintaining a slightly overweight weight.And there's nothing 'broken' about not feeling hungry even though one hasn't eaten much on a given day. That's perfectly normal.
Yes, it is. No one is talking about how one feels on one particular day, but over time.People who have weight to lose especially, should not force themselves to eat when they're not hungry.That makes no sense.
No one is talking about "forcing" yourself to eat. If it requires forcing and she really isn't eating more than 1000, that's problematic too. It really shouldn't be hard for a 5'5, 150 lb young woman to eat more than 1000 on average daily over the course of a few weeks. That kind of change is the sign of a medical or other issue, but here OP didn't suggest she has that problem.
The question is whether "oh, I feel okay, I don't NEED to eat more" is because on a particular day she's eating plenty and is maintaining a sensible overall deficit (taking the week as a whole, say), or if it is because her mind is telling her that she shouldn't eat unless she really feels no energy or miserable or like she has to eat. For many of us, especially in the early stages of weight loss, the mind easily goes into "I'm fine" even with really low calories, and you don't trust yourself so worry that eating more than you absolutely have to is you being weak and that real hunger must be absolutely strong and irresistible so if you don't feel bad you must be eating plenty, no matter what.
There's a huge gray area between when you must force yourself to eat because you'd really had as much as yu can stand and when you feel like you absolutely need food, at least when you've deal with the issues some (by no means all) have with interpreting not feeling full as "need to eat."
This all sounds like a massive overanalysis and overthinking of a simple matter. The girl said she's "completely satisfied" and just wondering if it's harmful to eat 1000/day. If she feels fine, and her food choices are providing essential vitamins and minerals, then the simple answer is NO, even if she did that for say, 4 weeks straight and not just a day here and there.
I agree and most people ignored that I said 1000 calories NET. They kept talking about the fat. I said I have trouble eating the fat some days not every day. Most days I reach everything and I always go over on protein everyday. They also think I'm going to binge everything back. I have no desire to. I have self control. Even if I did binge one day isn't going to make me gain everything back. The only reason I'm overweight is I had a bad back injury and I couldn't workout and even moving at all hurt. Someone else was cooking for me too. I'm going to the doctor for advice and to have my vitamins checked. And my doctor is kind not rude!2 -
SunflowerDaisey wrote: »
I don't understand why people are being rude. I just asked a question. This is the help section and it's very discouraging. I probably will never ask a question on here again.MysteriousLeigh wrote: »
It's a weight loss forum - what did you expect? People here are hungry and angry lol
Seriously though I completely agree. Reading this thread made me feel bullied. I wouldn't want to ask another question if I were you either.
Truth is 1000cals are allowed by MFP. What matters is how big your deficit is, not how much you're eating in absolute numbers. If 1000 puts you at 1000 deficit, it's bad. If it puts you at 300 deficit, it's fine. I'm not saying either is you, but you can see what I mean.
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