June 2017 Running Challenge

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  • Stoshew71
    Stoshew71 Posts: 6,553 Member
    Way to go @MrsKGrady on your AG placement.
  • ereck44
    ereck44 Posts: 1,170 Member
    June Challenge....goal is 60 miles

    June 1.....8 miles
    June 14....6 miles
    June 19....6 miles

    Total....20 miles

    Not sure if I will make my goal this month...but definitely going to try.

    I worked 3 out of the last 4 nights. Sunday was on off day, but so fried that I just watched a movie with my husband.

    This morning I ran 6 miles after my visit to the dentist. I forgot my heart rate monitor. I felt like I was walking a tightrope without a net...so dependent on it to check my pace. I think that I was running 13 minute miles though, probably in my zone.

    Congratulations to all who raced this weekend! I am looking forward to reading race reports. I think that I still need to read about 20 pages of posts. What an active group!
  • kimlight2
    kimlight2 Posts: 483 Member
    Questions for the running gurus:

    I am working on getting consistent with 4 runs a week. I am trying to get up to 2 short runs of 2-3 miles each, one of them hills or speed work the other just an easy run, 1 run of 4 miles and 1 run of 6 miles. I am planning on running Tues, Thurs, Sat, Sun. Does it matter if I do an easy run on the day before or after my long run? I notice most races in the area have a challenge series where the 5k is Saturday and the 10k/half is on Sunday so I am leaning towards that. My hill work or speed work will be Tues or Thurs so I have a recovery day after it. so here is a tentative schedule :
    Tues - easy 4 mile run
    Thurday - Hills/ Speed work 2 - 3 mile run
    Saturday - easy 2-3 mile run
    Sunday - Long run (eventually 6 miles)

    Does that look right? Thank you for any help you can give.
  • lporter229
    lporter229 Posts: 4,907 Member
    kimlight2 wrote: »
    Questions for the running gurus:

    I am working on getting consistent with 4 runs a week. I am trying to get up to 2 short runs of 2-3 miles each, one of them hills or speed work the other just an easy run, 1 run of 4 miles and 1 run of 6 miles. I am planning on running Tues, Thurs, Sat, Sun. Does it matter if I do an easy run on the day before or after my long run? I notice most races in the area have a challenge series where the 5k is Saturday and the 10k/half is on Sunday so I am leaning towards that. My hill work or speed work will be Tues or Thurs so I have a recovery day after it. so here is a tentative schedule :
    Tues - easy 4 mile run
    Thurday - Hills/ Speed work 2 - 3 mile run
    Saturday - easy 2-3 mile run
    Sunday - Long run (eventually 6 miles)

    Does that look right? Thank you for any help you can give.

    Yep. You could easily swap Saturday and Sunday on weeks when it doesn't fit your schedule. Either way should work fine. The idea is not to have back to back hard runs. The way you have it set up now is probably ideal, IMO, but it would not matter if you had to swap Tues and Thur or Sat and Sun.
  • girlinahat
    girlinahat Posts: 2,956 Member
    Erm....stay safe out there team....bear
  • MNLittleFinn
    MNLittleFinn Posts: 4,271 Member
    kimlight2 wrote: »
    Questions for the running gurus:

    I am working on getting consistent with 4 runs a week. I am trying to get up to 2 short runs of 2-3 miles each, one of them hills or speed work the other just an easy run, 1 run of 4 miles and 1 run of 6 miles. I am planning on running Tues, Thurs, Sat, Sun. Does it matter if I do an easy run on the day before or after my long run? I notice most races in the area have a challenge series where the 5k is Saturday and the 10k/half is on Sunday so I am leaning towards that. My hill work or speed work will be Tues or Thurs so I have a recovery day after it. so here is a tentative schedule :
    Tues - easy 4 mile run
    Thurday - Hills/ Speed work 2 - 3 mile run
    Saturday - easy 2-3 mile run
    Sunday - Long run (eventually 6 miles)

    Does that look right? Thank you for any help you can give.
    I guess I could be a guru too....Swapping sat/sun is no big deal. Like @lporter229 said, you just don't want to have back to back hard runs or "quality workouts" Your schedule looks great.
  • katharmonic
    katharmonic Posts: 5,720 Member
    Date :::: Miles :::: Cumulative
    06/01/17 :::: 2.4 :::: 2.4
    06/02/17 :::: 0.0 :::: 2.4
    06/03/17 :::: 8.4 :::: 10.7
    06/04/17 :::: 3.1 :::: 13.9
    06/05/17 :::: 3.3 :::: 17.2
    06/06/17 :::: 3.5 :::: 20.7
    06/07/17 :::: 5.0 :::: 25.7
    06/08/17 :::: 0.0 :::: 25.7
    06/09/17 :::: 3.6 :::: 29.3
    06/10/17 :::: 7.8 :::: 37.0
    06/11/17 :::: 7.5 :::: 44.5
    06/12/17 :::: 2.8 :::: 47.4
    06/13/17 :::: 4.0 :::: 51.4
    06/14/17 :::: 2.6 :::: 53.9
    06/15/17 :::: 3.3 :::: 57.2
    06/16/17 :::: 0.0 :::: 57.2
    06/17/17 :::: 8.5 :::: 65.7
    06/18/17 :::: 3.3 :::: 69.0
    06/19/17 :::: 3.4 :::: 72.4
    Goal = 100 miles

    Not the run I planned for today, but a run nonetheless. Probably would have felt better if I hadn't eaten a massive quantity of Chinese from the Wegman's hot bar for lunch (I know I shouldn't grocery shop when I'm hangry).

    Can't wait until my new shoes get here tomorrow. My feet are starting to really feel it.
  • MNLittleFinn
    MNLittleFinn Posts: 4,271 Member
    I think I have reached a new kind of "special." I asked a group if trail runners for a sanity check in regards to a running decision.... they are crazy awesome people.
  • KeepRunningFatboy
    KeepRunningFatboy Posts: 3,055 Member
    kimlight2 wrote: »
    @KeepRunningFatboy - Any more races in the Cleveland or Akron/Canton area coming up?

    @kimlight2 - I am registered for the Towpath Marathon and the Akron Marathon. But I might have to skip Akron because I was asked to pace a marathon that same day in Illinois. :) I'm also running the Air Force Marathon in Dayton. And will probably be back as a pacer for Cleveland next Spring too!

  • zdyb23456
    zdyb23456 Posts: 1,706 Member
    So I'm looking at the data from my run this morning. Garmin is reporting that my average cadence was 195 and my max cadence was 204. That seems really high? I'm pretty short at 5ft. Would that be why?
  • hanlonsk
    hanlonsk Posts: 762 Member
    3.5- 31.6/75

    Was intending a longer run. But I pulled it up short. I have had an old ankle injury getting very mad at me for a while now, swelling and sore. And the "good" ankle was kind of talking as well, but I figured it was just due to some gait abnormalities/compensation from the other side. I actually have a dr appointment scheduled for Friday to get the previously injured ankle looked at. I had come incredibly close to deciding to cancel it. Because I'm just overreacting and a wuss and nothing could possibly be an actual issue, right? However, as I suddenly had a ouch big enough to pull up short on the run, and I am currently administering "RICE" protocol to the "good" ankle.... guess I won't cancel appointment after all...yeah...going to be that sort of week...
  • MNLittleFinn
    MNLittleFinn Posts: 4,271 Member
    zdyb23456 wrote: »
    So I'm looking at the data from my run this morning. Garmin is reporting that my average cadence was 195 and my max cadence was 204. That seems really high? I'm pretty short at 5ft. Would that be why?

    I'm 5'5" and average 185-195 on my runs, normally 190+. It's a fine cadence.
  • MobyCarp
    MobyCarp Posts: 2,927 Member
    zdyb23456 wrote: »
    So I'm looking at the data from my run this morning. Garmin is reporting that my average cadence was 195 and my max cadence was 204. That seems really high? I'm pretty short at 5ft. Would that be why?

    Had to go look at your prior post. 6 miles in 58:35, and this is the same run that had an average cadence of 195? That would imply a stride length of ~0.84 m. I don't know how reasonable this is for a 5 ft tall person running at a pace of ~9:46 per mile. Does this seem realistic to you? Your cadence is high enough for me to wonder if there's a measurement issue, but not so high that it looks impossible.

    Shorter runners will need a faster cadence to run at the same pace as taller runners. Studies have been done on elite distance runners, and the results show shorter runners have faster cadence while taller runners have longer stride. There doesn't seem to be any correlation between height and performance in distance running, though taller runners seem to have an advantage in sprinting.

    For comparison, I'm 5' 10" and my 5K race yesterday showed on Garmin with an average cadence of 191 and a max of 222. That was at an average pace of 6:18 per mile. On my more common easy runs, I have a lower cadence; today it was average 177, max 183. Today's run was very controlled by heart rate with few hills; normally I see a greater variation between average and max cadence. My average stride was 1.15m today and 1.36m in yesterday's race. These stride lengths look normal to me for how I was running.
  • juliet3455
    juliet3455 Posts: 3,015 Member
    MNLittleFinn wrote: »
    I think I have reached a new kind of "special." I asked a group if trail runners for a sanity check in regards to a running decision.... they are crazy awesome people.
    @MNLittleFinn :D I think that applies to pretty much everyone in this group - the crazy awesome people part that is.
    @PastorVincent I have to ask where you run/live, 369m elev/21.2 km = 17.41m/km impressive elevation.

    12km tonight out to what we call Mann Flats at the far South end of town - up the hills towards the RR Tracks and then back North. Legs are still tired after last weeks efforts.

    exercise.png

    06/02 15.0 km – 145.0 km - 15.0km – YTD 593.75
    06/03 11.5 km – 133.50 km - 26.5km
    06/07 5.66 km – 127.84 km - 32.16km
    06/11 10.5 km – 117.34 km - 42.66km
    06/14 8.0 km – 109.34 km - 50.66km
    06/14 9.13 km – 100.21 km - 59.79km
    06/16 10.2 km – 90.01 km - 69.99km
    06/17 7.52 km – 82.49 km - 77.51km
    06/19 12.00 km – 70.49 km - 89.51km – YTD 668.26
  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    @RespectTheKitty love the shirt!!! Love the color! So cute! Dang, I may have to get a pink one now!
  • PastorVincent
    PastorVincent Posts: 6,668 Member
    juliet3455 wrote: »
    @PastorVincent I have to ask where you run/live, 369m elev/21.2 km = 17.41m/km impressive elevation.
    6

    Near Pittsburgh, PA, USA.
  • allyphoe
    allyphoe Posts: 618 Member
    zdyb23456 wrote: »
    I ran with my new Forerunner watch. It was right on with RunKeeper. I think I will continue to use both since I usually walk after running to cool down, sometimes upwards of a mile or 2. I like to keep track of the extra mileage to track my sneakers.

    This watch is so much better than my Fitbit was!
    You are a terrible, terrible person to have sent me down that rabbit hole.

    So, um, what model did you get?
  • juliet3455
    juliet3455 Posts: 3,015 Member
    juliet3455 wrote: »
    @PastorVincent I have to ask where you run/live, 369m elev/21.2 km = 17.41m/km impressive elevation.
    PastorVincent wrote: »
    Near Pittsburgh, PA, USA.
    I understand, I flew through Pittsburgh a few times and remember the Rolling Hills that I saw from the plane coming into the airport.
  • cameronheel
    cameronheel Posts: 191 Member
    June 19 - 5 miles
    June total 57.5/75

    Thunderstorms came thru tonight and cooled temps down 75 at 7:30. After they cleared out it was extremely pleasant running weather.

    I will be going to the beach on Wednesday, hopefully there will be some good running terrain there.
  • zdyb23456
    zdyb23456 Posts: 1,706 Member
    allyphoe wrote: »
    zdyb23456 wrote: »
    I ran with my new Forerunner watch. It was right on with RunKeeper. I think I will continue to use both since I usually walk after running to cool down, sometimes upwards of a mile or 2. I like to keep track of the extra mileage to track my sneakers.

    This watch is so much better than my Fitbit was!
    You are a terrible, terrible person to have sent me down that rabbit hole.

    So, um, what model did you get?

    I got the 235. I couldn't justify getting anything more expensive since I probably won't even use all the features of the 235. It's a nice watch!
  • zdyb23456
    zdyb23456 Posts: 1,706 Member
    MobyCarp wrote: »
    zdyb23456 wrote: »
    So I'm looking at the data from my run this morning. Garmin is reporting that my average cadence was 195 and my max cadence was 204. That seems really high? I'm pretty short at 5ft. Would that be why?

    Had to go look at your prior post. 6 miles in 58:35, and this is the same run that had an average cadence of 195? That would imply a stride length of ~0.84 m. I don't know how reasonable this is for a 5 ft tall person running at a pace of ~9:46 per mile. Does this seem realistic to you? Your cadence is high enough for me to wonder if there's a measurement issue, but not so high that it looks impossible.

    Shorter runners will need a faster cadence to run at the same pace as taller runners. Studies have been done on elite distance runners, and the results show shorter runners have faster cadence while taller runners have longer stride. There doesn't seem to be any correlation between height and performance in distance running, though taller runners seem to have an advantage in sprinting.

    For comparison, I'm 5' 10" and my 5K race yesterday showed on Garmin with an average cadence of 191 and a max of 222. That was at an average pace of 6:18 per mile. On my more common easy runs, I have a lower cadence; today it was average 177, max 183. Today's run was very controlled by heart rate with few hills; normally I see a greater variation between average and max cadence. My average stride was 1.15m today and 1.36m in yesterday's race. These stride lengths look normal to me for how I was running.

    Ok. I try to have good form and I definitely try not to over stride after reading an article about it. So it must be my short legs have to turn over more often to cover the same distance.
  • azellz
    azellz Posts: 6 Member
    This is a wonderful idea! However, since the beginning of data collection on City of Phoenix temperatures (about 150 years) there have been 12 days over 118 degrees... and today was one of them. We're having a real scorcher of a summer and I honestly think it would be dangerous to run in this heat. Is this going to continue into the fall months?? (please say yes!)
  • shanaber
    shanaber Posts: 6,423 Member
    Hi @azellz - Welcome to this crazy group. There is a challenge every month and will definitely go on into the fall months! I saw today that they had to cancel flights in and out of Phoenix today because of the heat! Definitely not healthy to try running in that! Maybe some dreadmill runs instead?
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