June 2017 Running Challenge
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@shanaber love the picture!
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@MNLittleFinn - I did not see a sign report in you marathon log! Any really good ones?
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PastorVincent wrote: »@MNLittleFinn - I did not see a sign report in you marathon log! Any really good ones?
nothing exceptional. The usual about how many more miles until I got to the beer and such, and a lot of "on a scale of 1-10 you are a 26.2" nothing super creative though.0 -
Sheesh. I look away for 24 hours and this thread goes nuts. Every time.
The weather was nice today, for a change. 76 at run time and very little humidity. So, I took that as a sign that it was time for a good long run (for me). I brought along my hydration belt, one bottle filled with G2 (no sugar for me, gives me tummy trouble) and the other bottle filled with water with a little lime juice. I went through both bottles by mile 9.
I went out on my usual long run route, only took it out slightly longer before turn around. Made it all the way to the border of Berkeley, which is COOK COUNTY OH NO and on the other side of the Tri-State expressway. It was interesting to see a part of the Prairie Path I had not seen before.
When all was done, I had completed 10.55 miles by the time I got back home. I briefly considered taking it to 11, but I just didn't have any left to give, so I called it at 10.55. Still, it's my longest run to date and my first ten-miler since being injured. Oh, the hip did complain a bit, but not enough for me to want to stop.
If I do take it out to 11 miles and beyond, I am going to have to figure out how to stretch my liquids out beyond 9 miles. There are water fountains along the Path, so I may just have to stop and refill at some point.
Hope all the dads out there had a happy Father's Day.8 -
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June Goal: Goal? We don't need no stinkin goal.....
6/1 nothin
6/2 4.00
6/3 4.00
6/4 4.00
6/5 rest
6/6 3.87
6/7 4.13
6/8 3.50
6/9 rest
6/10 6.12
6/11 3.50
6/12 4.00
6/13 rest
6/14 4.00
6/15 3.70
6/16 4.13
6/17 rest
6/18 6.40
Total 55.35
@shanaber Great picture!
Time to throw this out again: Steve says: wear your sunblock!
Ticker is my goal for 2017 and progress to date:
upcoming races:
Volcano Rainforest Runs 10k 8/19
BlockThe Sun Run 5k Oct 14 (https://walk.aimatmelanoma.org/Hilo2017) (physical and virtual options available)
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Meant to run 7.5 KM but stopped after one lap because I was feeling my earlier strength workout and it was oh so humid. I really need to get better at running in humidity. +3.75KM towards my monthly goal.
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01/06 3.26 miles
06/06 3.76 miles
07/06 3.77 miles
12/06 3.79 miles
13/06 3.77 miles
14/06 4 miles
16/06 3.62 miles
18/06 3.82 miles
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6/1 - 5.20 miles (also starting a diet change to increase carbs slightly)
6/2 - rest
6/3 - 9.00 painful and slow miles in sweltering heat with the sun beating down
6/4 - rest
6/5 - 5.25 miles not as hot as Sat., but still hot (need to stop making excuses for slow pace)
6/6 - 5.37 miles - early am, so started out dark, but nice and cool out
6/7 - 5.00 miles (early am, nice and cool again... had to add some distance to get up to the full 5 miles)
6/8 - 13.18 miles (started out 3am and tired along with GI distress, terrible pace but stuck with it - improved as I got to the last few miles - average total pace 11:13)
6/9 - rest (backpacking in evening, not counting non-running miles)
6/10 - rest (backpacking, not counting non-running miles)
6/11 - rest (backpacking, not counting non-running miles)
6/12 - 6.60 miles, fairly warm, totally new area while traveling for work, slow average pace
6/13 - 6.93 miles, still warm, new area (paved trails mostly today), slow - need to work on that speed
6/14 - 6.12 miles, not quite as warm, but 74% humidity still was tough - still slow
6/15 - rest
6/16 - rest
6/17 - 14.30 miles... hot, slow pace. Stopped and re-filled my water bottle 3 times.
6/18 - rest
6/19 - 6.19 miles - plan was for 7 miles, but got started late because I woke up with low BG (46 mg/dl). Still could have done 7 miles, but ended early because the stuff I ate for the low BG was causing some issues.
6/24 - Glacier National Park Half Marathon2 -
MNLittleFinn wrote: »PastorVincent wrote: »@MNLittleFinn - I did not see a sign report in you marathon log! Any really good ones?
nothing exceptional. The usual about how many more miles until I got to the beer and such, and a lot of "on a scale of 1-10 you are a 26.2" nothing super creative though.
AH, bah.
This year at the PGH Marathon some joker had worked out how many INCHES until the finish line and three or four places along the race there were updates like "only 823,680 inches to go!" That was the first I had seen like that. Also "You think you are tired? I have been holding this sign up for hours!"3 -
It's Monday, which means today's run represents the majority of the 20% of my 80/20 running week. So for 45 minutes, my heart rate was in the upper aerobic zone, followed by an hour and five minutes at threshold. Overall, that averaged out to a pace of 8:16 min/mi, which isn't too shabby given the sweat-fest 79F/84% humidity that was present at 4am; I honestly have no idea how some people manage to run later in the day at higher temps...I can only assume that those people must be small gods or something.
01 - 11.39
02 - 21.12
05 - 13.44
06 - 10.73
07 - 13.43
08 - 11.43
09 - 21.15
12 - 5.66
13 - 13.16
14 - 7.10
15 - 10.33
16 - 13.52
17 - 11.27
19 - 13.52
Total: 177.25 / 225 miles4 -
Goals for June:
1. To add 4th day to the running week - Going well so far with the only sticky spot being on Thursdays when I have to run before work at 4am.
2. To not puke, pass out or die while adjusting to the heat - Also going well but the month is young and it has not been that hot yet.
3. To stay healthy - So far so good but trying not to jinx it.
4. Make my running a priority, not the first thing that gets forgotten when work and family schedules get crazy - Also going well but last week I was on vacation so that made it easier.
5. To do a better job tracking miles and holding myself accountable - Not so well so far but we will see.
Running mileage goal :
I am planning on 4 runs a week of an average of 2 miles each as a conservative goal so 40 miles.
Date Day Run Monthly total Needed
6/3 Sat 2.3 Mi 2.3 Mi 37.7Mi
6/3 Sun 2.0 Mi 4.3 Mi 35.7Mi
6/6 Tues 2.5 Mi 6.8 Mi 33.2Mi
6/8 Thurs 1.5 Mi 8.3 Mi 31.7Mi
6/10 Sat 3.1 Mi 11.4 Mi 28.6Mi
6/11 Sun 1.1 Mi 12.5 Mi 27.5Mi
6/13 Tues 1.7 Mi 14.2 Mi 25.8Mi
6/15 Thurs 3.0 Mi 17.2 Mi 22.8Mi
6/17 Sat 1.6 Mi 18.8 Mi 21.2Mi
Surprisingly just a little behind schedule to make plan. 4 Runs a week are getting easier, just need to do a better job getting in the distances I need.
2017 Upcoming Races :
6/10/17 Run and Ride Cedar Point 5K (maybe) - Done
9/9/17 Kick off 5k (race 2 of series)
11/19/17 Halftime 10K (race 3 of series)
2/4/18 Championship 5 miler (race 4 of series)
4/29/18 Akron Half Marathon (Can sign up for $26.50 by 8/1 without getting a shirt for full or half)
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1/6 - 3.6
2/6 - 4.9
3/6-5.6
4/6 -REST
5/6-3.9
6/6-4.7
7/6-3.1
8/6-4.3
9/0 -REST
10/6-3.8
11/6-6.5
12/6-REST
13/6-3.7
14/6-5.2
15/6-6.0
16/6-REST
17/6-5.1
18/6-5.1
19/6-3.4
Total - 68.9/90 Miles
Today was meant to be speed work but it was sooo hot that I just ambled round!4 -
@MNLittleFinn - Great job on competing the full! Love that you are already planning a second one.
@MobyCarp - Congrats on winning your age group!
@shanaber - Love the picuture! Must have been a blast.
@KeepRunningFatboy - Any more races in the Cleveland or Akron/Canton area coming up?0 -
6/2 - C25K W4D3 2.3 miles
6/4 - C25K W5D1 2.7 miles (includes walking after)
6/6 - C25K W5D2 2.1 miles
6/9 - C25K W5D3 2.1 miles
6/11 - C25K W6D1 2.1 miles (excludes cooldown)
6/19 - C25K W6D2 2.5 miles
12.8 out of 20
Was afraid I'd need to repeat after a week away, but no! One of our group wore a pedometer at Disney, and logged 15-20k steps each day. We weren't together 100% of the time, but my guess is that I was in that ballpark. Then yesterday was 14 hours in the car, boredom-snacking. Rest + glycogen = a fast, easy run today. A week of humid heat also made this morning feel particularly cool, despite being later in the morning than I prefer.
Hey, this was my last day with a walk break in the middle!
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QUESTION
(maybe especially for the ladies, not sure)
My wife is complaining that she feels pain in the groin, right where the leg connects. She said it feels "sore" so not sharp or anything. Is this normal? I have not experienced this, sore elsewhere sure, but not right there.
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6/1 = Gym day; 3 miles on the treadmill and 40 minutes of strength training
6/2 = 6 miles
6/3 = 6 miles & strength training
6/4 = 13.9 miles (run/walk)
6/5 = 8.1 miles & strength training
6/6 = rest day
6/7 = 8 miles (with 6 - 5 minute speed intervals)
6/8 = 5.5 miles
6/9 = 6 miles
6/10 = Hatha yoga class
6/11 = 10 miles (run/walk)
6/12 = 4 miles & strength training
6/13 = Vinyasa yoga class
6/14 = 7.5 miles
6/15 = 5.5 miles
6/16 = 6 miles & strength training
6/17 = 3 miles (5k race so technically 3.2 - rounding down)
6/18 = 13 miles
6/19 = 5 miles & strength training
Five slow, hot, & soggy miles. Holy humidity, Batman!
(June miles to date) 110.5/150 (June goal miles)
Upcoming 2017 Races:
10/28 = Hill Country Halloween Half Marathon
11/23 = Georgetown Turkey Trot
12/10 = BCS Half Marathon4 -
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A late start here, drinking coffee, catching up on posts.
I'm 94% sure today is going to be a rest day, but there is an off chance I might do some easy mileage.
I was definitely more worn down than I should have been all day and night yesterday, even with a nap, so that "easy run" yesterday was too much on top of the workout the day prior. Good to know, I'll try a run in a lower recovery-only effort range next time.
I slept in after my alarm to go do my mile intervals workout this morning (no sense forcing that workout today), and didn't wake up again until 2 hours later! I feel a lot better, and is why I am even considering an easy effort run today.3 -
6/1 - 8 miles (daily double: 3.5 & 4.5)
6/2 - 9 miles
6/3 - 5 mile recovery run + Zumba
6/4 - GW Bridge Challenge 10k (PR - 53:43)
6/5 - 6.25 mile recovery run
6/6 - 9 soaking wet miles
6/7 - 8 miles w/summer track workout (4x1000m w/400m recoveries)
6/8 - 10 miles (daily double: 6 & 4)
6/9 - rest
6/10 - NYRR Mini 10k (6.3 miles - 58:09)
6/11 - 13 mile slow, hottt, long run
6/12 - 8 mile rather hot run
6/13 - 7 mile run w/summer track workout (3x 10 min Indian file runs)
6/14 - 3.1 mile recovery run
6/15 - rest
6/17 - 6 mile soaking wet rainy run + Zumba
6/18 - 11 mile stupid humid long run
June Total: 115.95/140
716.8 miles/2,017 miles - goal for the year
So I was supposed to run on Friday, but due to weather conditions I had changed that to Saturday. I don't normally run the day before a long run yet, so it's always a little bit of a challenge when I need to do it. I did 6 miles on Saturday. It was 70° and raining the entire time, and it felt amazing. I love running in the rain when it's not too chilly!
Yesterday was my long run, but it was also my last long run before my next HM, exactly one week before the race. I set out to do 12 miles but ended up with 11, and was perfectly happy with that. It ended up being a killer with the humidity, 84° but with a realfeel of 92, and a lot more sun than I was hoping for. The clouds/gray weather forecast kept getting pushed back, and I didn't get any of it on my run. The conditions really sapped my energy.
The other reason I ended up cutting out the last mile was because I bumped into a fellow Rockland Road Runner member, and ended up running with her for about 3 miles, at a bit of a faster pace than I had been planning on. I had been keepng it pretty slow, around a 10:30 pace, because of taper, and the weather, and having run the previous day, but ended up doing the 3 miles I ran with her in 9:43, 9:15, and 9:24, lol. My hr during those 3 miles averages out to being right around my LT hr, so I'm happy calling this an unplanned tempo run and leaving out that last mile, lol. I'm feeling really good about it though, because I managed to maintain a pretty coherent conversation for those 3 miles, with a heart rate ranging from 175-182, so I am yet again left to wonder what my true limits are, lol.
I also tried out my new hydration backpack for the first time on this run. I had no chafing issues, and it seemed to work really well. I didn't notice my back being extra uncomfortably hot, but all of me was already uncomfortably hot anyway, so I'm not sure there was much of a difference it would be able to make. It was so gross on this run that I actually ended up with squelchy socks/shoes, just like the day before in the rain
This is the pack I purchased, and I will update further as I continue to try it out:
https://amazon.com/gp/product/B015GONGTG/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=13 -
6.7 mile recovery run suppose to be at 10:30 pace but it was 9:30. It felt like I was running easy with the exception of the humidity which was about 100% thankfully it was only 74 degrees out.
total for June 106/150 44 to go.3 -
@KatieJane83 thanks for posting on the hydration pack. This is this one I will be purchasing. It's good to hear it's working out for you. I saw a similar one at TJMax Saturday but it was definitely a female color of purple. Now at the early morning hours that I run why should I care?2
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SpiritHippo wrote: »
My race description is a few pages back.
This thread is rediculouly hard to keep up with - lol.
Short version: Ran it in 27:34 --- 6 minutes faster than last year. 10th overall female and 3rd in my age group.3 -
MNLittleFinn wrote: »4:24 finish. Quad and calf cramps murdered my second half. Still ok with my time though, I got the 26.2
Edit to add, the weather kicked my *kitten*. It was only 73f, but there was a lot of sun and humidity was close to 60%. My runs have been a lot cooler.
Oddly, I feel great with my finish. Sure, I was 24 minutes slower than my hoped for, but I was less than double my first HM time, from less than a year ago.
We are all very proud of you! Great Job @MNLittleFinn0 -
amymoreorless wrote: »
My race description is a few pages back.
This thread is rediculouly hard to keep up with - lol.
Short version: Ran it in 27:34 --- 6 minutes faster than last year. 10th overall female and 3rd in my age group.
Oh, I missed that! Great job!1 -
@ohhim - beautiful picture of your son -- makes me cry. Thank you for reminding us again. I've been diligent w/sunscreen thanks to you, but screwed up one afternoon on my trip this past weekend. I had a ton of sunscreen on in the morning and then at lunch the bartender brought me a huge sangria. It was supposed to just be one but she said she was playing with the recipe and had to keep adjusting it and so she brings out the normal size one and then a huge plastic cup with the leftover. Probably 40 oz total! (um... yeah, I guess no one forced it down my throat but it was so good). So after that I told my husband we have to walk or I won't be able to make it to the formal dinner that night. So we walked ... and walked ... and walked and when we got back to hotel I realized one arm/shoulder was burned.
6/1- travel day
6/2 - 5 miles
6/3- 4.6 miles
6/4- 4.2 miles + 18 miles cycling on rented bike
6/5- 5 miles
6/6 - 5.5 miles
6/7 - 6.1 miles
6/8 - 5.4 miles
6/9 - travel day
6/10 - 43 miles cycling
6/11 - 44 miles cycling
6/12 - 5 miles running
6/13 - 5 miles
6/14 - 5 miles
6/15 - strength training
6/16 - 5 miles on the boardwalk in Hollywood
6/17 - 5 miles same as yesterday
6/18 - 4 miles same as last two days
6/19 - 4 miles - back home
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WhatMeRunning wrote: »I ran 4.5 miles in easy effort HR range today, despite feeling sore from yesterday and considering a rest day. Truth is, I just did a little over a full week of reduced mileage and I felt obligated to get back to my weekly mileage.
This working out at high speeds to improve my VO2Max has been quite foreign to me, and has turned my thoughts and instincts on training practically on it's head. Just a couple or so miles of working at these high efforts feels incredibly tough while doing them, but then after a short recovery I feel like I didn't work out as much as a normal, longer, slow run. Yet by later in the day I'm feeling that I did indeed get a serious workout in and usually sleep really hard and wake up feeling more stiff and sore than a nights rest after a slower, longer run, and like I might be better off taking it as a rest day. Over the last week I opted for rest since I may have been due some rest. At this point though, I'm ready to get recovery workouts instead of rest.
On today's 4.5 miler I kept the effort easy, and will be curious to see how I am performing tomorrow. It actually felt kind of tough today compared to past easy runs for active recovery. I hope I am fully recovered for tomorrow's workout which is 3x1mi intervals at my 5k pace (enforced by my Garmin). I am more interested in achieving that sort of workout right now than simply getting "more miles". It occurred to me during today's run that maybe the reason so many people get injured when switching to speed work is because they keep running the same mileage or same number of workouts and don't take on between days as rest days. I suspect that depends on the person, and their condition.
As for my condition, I can't figure it out yet. I can do long, slow stuff until the cows come home and get some above average weekly mileage (45 most recently) with no problems. Yet I struggle mightily to run 1 mile at a pace 30 to 60 seconds slower than my mile pace. This is why I want to so some mile intervals at 5k pace. My VO2Max is well below average for my age. So that is the weak link, and perfectly explains this. But saying I have the strength to go long and slow is sort of a lie because even that is driven by your ability to deliver oxygen, which my VO2Max is a key part of. So really, I'm just in bad shape but can tough out some above average efforts if I operate slowly enough.
I agree with what you are experiencing. Speed work wipes me out over the long haul. I think a definite decrease in overall mileage is helpful when doing legitimate speed work. I think there becomes a point where you have built a solid base and you get diminishing returns on all of those extra easy miles. If you want to increase you speed, you have to do speed work. But if you are doing speed work, you need more recovery, so you end up running less miles. You are probably at that point where you will benefit more from the speed work and a lower overall weekly mileage than you will by just adding volume for the sake of adding volume. I have never been a fan of super high mileage. Maybe it's because I built my base up over many years of running rather than building up to high monthly miles over a shorter period of time, but even during the height of my training I only once hit a 60 mile week.1 -
@Shanaber- Love the beach photo. I think Hobbes is beautiful. To see all of those beautiful Vizslas together must have been something. I am not sure how everyone was able to find their dogs in the group.LOL
@HonuNui -Thanks for the reminder. What a fantastic photo of your son!1 -
My June goal is a bit different than most because I didn't create the goal/ do my first run until June 17th: 5.6 miles completed, 12.4 miles to go.
Many, many thanks to all those who gave advice! I have noticed a difference already. The most prominent thing that has helped me thus far was the advice on easy miles versus hard miles. I slowed down my 'running' pace and actually finished the 3.6 miles faster than I used to. Previously I was running to my full ability but could only keep that up for .3 or .4 miles and would have to break and catch my breath and then do it again. I slowed by .4 miles/hr and was able to keep that pace up much longer. I still have to stop at some intervals but this new strategy is very promising. Again, thank you everyone!5 -
@PastorVincent Sounds like your wife could had some adductor strain. My personal suggestion would be no running for 4-5 weeks.. haha! Just joshin'.
Gentle massage, gentle stretching and work on strengthening abductors, core (planks), give IT band some TLC too, and stretch that psoas out.
Not a doctor. See your PCP/PT for advice.1
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