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What are your unpopular opinions about health / fitness?
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WinoGelato wrote: »CommonBiped wrote: »I abhor being told that losing weight is easy. That finding time, energy, money, which workouts won't kill your knees/feet/chest, is just a snap and anyone who can't immediately do these things is just lazy. That healthy food is cheap or that cooking food at home is quick. The reality is, these are true if you're making your health your part-time job/hobby.
Reality is, working out even for 20 minutes is more than 20 minutes. You have find and get into gear, go where you're working out, work out, shower, redo your hair, redo your makeup, pack up your stuff etc. Adds at least a load of laundry a week and will likely cost you money in either equipment, membership or gear/clothing. Where can you find workout gear that isn't for a size 2, you know something you can actually try on and know that it fits instead of playing internet size roulette. What exercises do you do? In what amount? Are you doing them correctly? Are they effective? How effective? Shouldn't you be seeing some results by now? How boring is working out really? I hear there's a runners high, but they must've been high before it started because running is the most boring activity on the face of the planet.
Cooking at home includes the finding of recipes, the dithering of whether or not it is something you can/will eat, finding food at between 1-3 stores because 3 out 4 times 1 store won't have all the ingredients, the money that all this good for you food costs, food prep (which doesn't actually go fast, it is hard work, there's a reason chefs get paid), the actual cooking, the dishes from initially eating it, the tupperware you ended up storing the extras in that you never end up eating because it is horrible reheated, the pots, the pans, the measuring devices, you can destroy a kitchen and walk away with enough food for two meals. Even with all that, is it something you can eat in 5 minutes before you have to be out the door for work? Is it something you can bring to work that doesn't require ridiculous number of containers or at work kitchen prep? Will it taste god frickin awful once microwaved? Will it stink up the office and make you a pariah? Do you count calories or carbs, or sugar grams, or fat grams? Is the apple in my hand considered a medium apple? How many freakin calories are actually in this apple?
Most people aren't lazy and they care about their health. But come on, the healthier than thou attitudes thrown at people and the condescension is frickin brutal. If you are the kind of people that inhabit a gym, why on earth would anyone want to go there? I know people who work their buts off in life, they just don't work it off at the gym. Who are you to judge these people? My grandmother was easily between 250 and 300 her whole adult life. She worked on her feet every day and cooked dinner for everyone at night. You would rarely see her sit. But apparently according to this thread she was simply lazy. You should all be ashamed of yourselves. Perhaps instead of working on your looks while claiming your'e working on your health, you should be working on your compassion and attitudes towards others. You may be getting prettier on the outside, but apparently your insides have a long ways to go.
Yes, I work out, yes I watch what I eat and generally go for healthy. But I would never be foolish or arrogant enough to claim that it is easy because the truth is it is hard work and time consuming, or that everyones metabolism or body works the same way, or that today's lifestyle doesn't play a huge roll in everyone's weight increase. If everyones bodies worked exactly the same way then the same dosage of meds would work for everyone. So running marathons or whatever is your hobby, good for you, that does not make you a better persone than someone who finds that mind numbingly boring and prefers to create something or spend their time elsewhere.
Weight loss isn't easy, but it is simple. In order to lose weight, you need to be in a calorie deficit. None of those things you described - going to the gym, exercising at all, cooking all meals at home, tracking macros - are required for weight loss.
Your post sounds like you feel weight loss is overly complicated and you are potentially overthinking some aspects of what will help you achieve your goals. Eat a little less, move a little more. That really is it. Over time, then the small changes start to become lasting habits and then you build more and more of them.
I don't judge others who aren't making those changes, or who aren't going to extremes - but I do tell people that it is possible to lose weight without running marathons, without eating clean, without meticulously tracking every morsel you consume with a food scale. Because I think that believing that those things are required, can often become a barrier from people starting to lose weight.
Which ties in nicely to one of my (probably) unpopular opinions: Weight loss is not only simple, it's also a lot easier than many people make it. One only needs to read through the threads here on MFP to see there are plenty of people who make it a lot more difficult, convoluted and miserable than it has to be.
Yeah i dont think thats an unpopular opinion at all lol.0 -
I love this thread. I have a LOT of unpopular opinions, but the most unpopular of them all is:
Dieting means you will be hungry, there's no way around it.
.... You won't starve, and it should be to a point it is manageable. But if you're eating at a deficit, your body will start using its own energy and it will complain. And this means you will be hungry (at least a little).
So true! I love this.2 -
Being hungry means I'm doing it right. Shut up stomach, you've run this show for 30 years, time to take a back seat and stfu.4
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GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »I'm sure it's all individual, but I don't buy the idea that if you have high cal treats in the home that the kids will be grabbing and eating them, let alone that they will be eating lots of them (as jayed miss seemed to be saying). That was not my experience.
I don't buy that either. Well, I do with some as I know kids who will do this at home (because they are not taught not to, which does back up my theory). I thought I made it pretty clear that I was not talking about what children do when under the watchful eye of parents who have taught them good food rules. But maybe I did not.
We were latchkey kids (that term, how 80s!) and were home alone a lot, me from the time I was around 9 or 10. We did not get into the sweets and go nuts (and my parents probably would have known if we had). We also did not buy sweets, at least not often or in significant amounts (it was probably harder back then, however).
Bolded the important part.
So basically you are saying that you believe that children are gorging themselves when there's no chance their parents will know about it, and since we can't know about it, then there's no way for us to prove that they aren't? That's some seriously circular logic...
IDK if I'd go as far as gorge. But yes. I think if children are in a situation where they think there won't be consequences that they will behave differently than when they believe they are.
I believe this is true with a number of behaviors in children.
I trust that my children will use good judgement any time they have a choice - whether it be about the foods they eat, the way they treat others, the way they react when they see others being mistreated... etc. I think always assuming that kids are not going to make a good choice really shows a lack of trust and confidence in the values you've instilled in them.
I was trying to figure out how to respond to this post. You've summed up my feelings perfectly.
Thanks. I do want to elaborate on my first post to clarify that in no way do I think my children always use perfect judgement, or make the BEST choice, when they have choices to make. But neither do I.... what I try to teach them is that they need to consider choices and weigh options carefully. If my kids eat a little extra candy when they are playing with their cousins watching video games, that's ok, they are humans. Striving for perfection and assuming that they would choose raw vegetables when their cousins are eating pixie sticks is unrealistic. If they eat pixie sticks and then come home starving later, we can talk about how that didn't really fill them up and maybe a piece of string cheese or some carrots would have done that, and they could have still had a pixie stick too.
We were at Toys R Us recently and my 6 year old had a gift card burning a hole in his pocket. He desperately wanted a giant nerf gun, which the gift card wouldn't have covered, and he would have had to dip into birthday money too. We talked about the timing of such a purchase, relative to the upcoming holidays, and that maybe he should look at something that he had enough to spend the gift card on and not have to use other funds for. After a lot of agonizing, he decided to go with a different item, within his card limit, and as we were walking to the car he said, "mom, I think I made a good choice, don't you"? That's all I ask of my kids, that they use their brains and consider the options and the consequences before making a decision. If he had really pushed for the giant nerf gun, I would have let him do it, but I'm happy he made the choice he did (lord knows we don't need more nerf guns!).7 -
Bry_Lander wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »In Germany, P.E. class is called Sports class. So everything you do in P.E. is sport.
I recall participating in juggling, hula hooping, and duck-duck-goose in gym, activities that are clearly sports
. I’m hoping the Olympics include duck-duck-goose as a sport in 2024, I’m thinking I will certainly medal.
Well it is a physical competition which allows for defending against the opposing players so it does fit your own definition of a sport...7 -
Carlos_421 wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »In Germany, P.E. class is called Sports class. So everything you do in P.E. is sport.
I recall participating in juggling, hula hooping, and duck-duck-goose in gym, activities that are clearly sports . I’m hoping the Olympics include duck-duck-goose as a sport in 2024, I’m thinking I will certainly medal.
Well it is a physical competition which allows for defending against the opposing players so it does fit your own definition of a sport...
If the juggling and hula-hooping were done in competition then of course all 3 meet your definition, right? Hello Olympic Committee, can we get these all in place for Tokyo in 2020?4 -
Bry_Lander wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »In Germany, P.E. class is called Sports class. So everything you do in P.E. is sport.
I recall participating in juggling, hula hooping, and duck-duck-goose in gym, activities that are clearly sports . I’m hoping the Olympics include duck-duck-goose as a sport in 2024, I’m thinking I will certainly medal.
Well it is a physical competition which allows for defending against the opposing players so it does fit your own definition of a sport...
If the juggling and hula-hooping were done in competition then of course all 3 meet your definition, right? Hello Olympic Committee, can we get these all in place for Tokyo in 2020?
Rhythmic gymnastics, which includes hula hoops, is already in the olympics.9 -
Bry_Lander wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »In Germany, P.E. class is called Sports class. So everything you do in P.E. is sport.
I recall participating in juggling, hula hooping, and duck-duck-goose in gym, activities that are clearly sports . I’m hoping the Olympics include duck-duck-goose as a sport in 2024, I’m thinking I will certainly medal.
Well it is a physical competition which allows for defending against the opposing players so it does fit your own definition of a sport...
If the juggling and hula-hooping were done in competition then of course all 3 meet your definition, right? Hello Olympic Committee, can we get these all in place for Tokyo in 2020?
I would watch the *kitten* out of competitive juggling or hula hooping.....or juggling AND hula hooping
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Bry_Lander wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »In Germany, P.E. class is called Sports class. So everything you do in P.E. is sport.
I recall participating in juggling, hula hooping, and duck-duck-goose in gym, activities that are clearly sports . I’m hoping the Olympics include duck-duck-goose as a sport in 2024, I’m thinking I will certainly medal.
Well it is a physical competition which allows for defending against the opposing players so it does fit your own definition of a sport...
If the juggling and hula-hooping were done in competition then of course all 3 meet your definition, right? Hello Olympic Committee, can we get these all in place for Tokyo in 2020?
We all just wait for your judgments to decide how to live.10 -
WinoGelato wrote: »GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »I'm sure it's all individual, but I don't buy the idea that if you have high cal treats in the home that the kids will be grabbing and eating them, let alone that they will be eating lots of them (as jayed miss seemed to be saying). That was not my experience.
I don't buy that either. Well, I do with some as I know kids who will do this at home (because they are not taught not to, which does back up my theory). I thought I made it pretty clear that I was not talking about what children do when under the watchful eye of parents who have taught them good food rules. But maybe I did not.
We were latchkey kids (that term, how 80s!) and were home alone a lot, me from the time I was around 9 or 10. We did not get into the sweets and go nuts (and my parents probably would have known if we had). We also did not buy sweets, at least not often or in significant amounts (it was probably harder back then, however).
Bolded the important part.
So basically you are saying that you believe that children are gorging themselves when there's no chance their parents will know about it, and since we can't know about it, then there's no way for us to prove that they aren't? That's some seriously circular logic...
IDK if I'd go as far as gorge. But yes. I think if children are in a situation where they think there won't be consequences that they will behave differently than when they believe they are.
I believe this is true with a number of behaviors in children.
I trust that my children will use good judgement any time they have a choice - whether it be about the foods they eat, the way they treat others, the way they react when they see others being mistreated... etc. I think always assuming that kids are not going to make a good choice really shows a lack of trust and confidence in the values you've instilled in them.
I was trying to figure out how to respond to this post. You've summed up my feelings perfectly.
Thanks. I do want to elaborate on my first post to clarify that in no way do I think my children always use perfect judgement, or make the BEST choice, when they have choices to make. But neither do I.... what I try to teach them is that they need to consider choices and weigh options carefully. If my kids eat a little extra candy when they are playing with their cousins watching video games, that's ok, they are humans. Striving for perfection and assuming that they would choose raw vegetables when their cousins are eating pixie sticks is unrealistic. If they eat pixie sticks and then come home starving later, we can talk about how that didn't really fill them up and maybe a piece of string cheese or some carrots would have done that, and they could have still had a pixie stick too.
We were at Toys R Us recently and my 6 year old had a gift card burning a hole in his pocket. He desperately wanted a giant nerf gun, which the gift card wouldn't have covered, and he would have had to dip into birthday money too. We talked about the timing of such a purchase, relative to the upcoming holidays, and that maybe he should look at something that he had enough to spend the gift card on and not have to use other funds for. After a lot of agonizing, he decided to go with a different item, within his card limit, and as we were walking to the car he said, "mom, I think I made a good choice, don't you"? That's all I ask of my kids, that they use their brains and consider the options and the consequences before making a decision. If he had really pushed for the giant nerf gun, I would have let him do it, but I'm happy he made the choice he did (lord knows we don't need more nerf guns!).
You know, it was by allowing my kids to make the mistake of eating some extra candy one Halloween that they learned that the really didn't like it all that much and that they didn't feel that great when they overate it.
So yeah, I'm not trying to give the impression I have some perfect little automatons here.
We have also done the decision making process like you did withe the gift card scenario. Our daughter isn't impulsive, so she's always been wise with such matters. Our son? Sometimes he chooses well (most of the time) and other times, impulse wins out. Regret has taught him well and his decision making processes have gotten better with time.0 -
Bry_Lander wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »In Germany, P.E. class is called Sports class. So everything you do in P.E. is sport.
I recall participating in juggling, hula hooping, and duck-duck-goose in gym, activities that are clearly sports . I’m hoping the Olympics include duck-duck-goose as a sport in 2024, I’m thinking I will certainly medal.
Well it is a physical competition which allows for defending against the opposing players so it does fit your own definition of a sport...
If the juggling and hula-hooping were done in competition then of course all 3 meet your definition, right? Hello Olympic Committee, can we get these all in place for Tokyo in 2020?
I would watch the *kitten* out of competitive juggling or hula hooping.....or juggling AND hula hooping
Also, hula hooping is really freakin hard
I never could get the trick behind hula hooping.1 -
Being hungry means I'm doing it right. Shut up stomach, you've run this show for 30 years, time to take a back seat and stfu.
To me, being hungry means I’m doing it completely wrong. I’ve figured out what foods offer me maximal satiety and I’m not hungry any more often than I ever was. The biggest difference is that I’ve learned to eat until I’m satisfied, not necessarily until I’m completely stuffed. I don’t feel I’ve really had to suffer at all to lose weight (or now, to maintain it).7 -
Being hungry means I'm doing it right. Shut up stomach, you've run this show for 30 years, time to take a back seat and stfu.
I kind of disagree with this. I rarely feel hungry. The biggest difference for me is I don't freak out when I get hungry and feel the need to eat everything in site to compensate.3 -
Being hungry means I'm doing it right. Shut up stomach, you've run this show for 30 years, time to take a back seat and stfu.
To me, being hungry means I’m doing it completely wrong. I’ve figured out what foods offer me maximal satiety and I’m not hungry any more often than I ever was. The biggest difference is that I’ve learned to eat until I’m satisfied, not necessarily until I’m completely stuffed. I don’t feel I’ve really had to suffer at all to lose weight (or now, to maintain it).
Cosigned!3 -
Bry_Lander wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »In Germany, P.E. class is called Sports class. So everything you do in P.E. is sport.
I recall participating in juggling, hula hooping, and duck-duck-goose in gym, activities that are clearly sports . I’m hoping the Olympics include duck-duck-goose as a sport in 2024, I’m thinking I will certainly medal.
Well it is a physical competition which allows for defending against the opposing players so it does fit your own definition of a sport...
If the juggling and hula-hooping were done in competition then of course all 3 meet your definition, right? Hello Olympic Committee, can we get these all in place for Tokyo in 2020?
We all just wait for your judgments to decide how to live.
If something as benign as a discussion on sports leaves you feeling judged then you are taking things way too seriously...10 -
Being hungry means I'm doing it right. Shut up stomach, you've run this show for 30 years, time to take a back seat and stfu.
To me, being hungry means I’m doing it completely wrong. I’ve figured out what foods offer me maximal satiety and I’m not hungry any more often than I ever was. The biggest difference is that I’ve learned to eat until I’m satisfied, not necessarily until I’m completely stuffed. I don’t feel I’ve really had to suffer at all to lose weight (or now, to maintain it).
100%, hunger has not been required for me. . . nor desired as penance for getting fat in the first place.4 -
Bry_Lander wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »In Germany, P.E. class is called Sports class. So everything you do in P.E. is sport.
I recall participating in juggling, hula hooping, and duck-duck-goose in gym, activities that are clearly sports . I’m hoping the Olympics include duck-duck-goose as a sport in 2024, I’m thinking I will certainly medal.
Well it is a physical competition which allows for defending against the opposing players so it does fit your own definition of a sport...
If the juggling and hula-hooping were done in competition then of course all 3 meet your definition, right? Hello Olympic Committee, can we get these all in place for Tokyo in 2020?
We all just wait for your judgments to decide how to live.
If something as benign as a discussion on sports leaves you feeling judged then you are taking things way too seriously...
Dude what’s with the lack of reading comprehension and/or critical thinking lately?
Awaiting “your judgements to decide how to live” doesn’t mean anyone feels personally judged by you any more than “competing against each other” means being able to block the other team from scoring.
His point is that you’re not special and no one cares whether you declare gymnastics “not a sport” because your one, single, solitary opinion doesn’t mean beans to the rest of the world and we don’t need your stamp of approval on what is or isn’t deemed a sport.14 -
Bry_Lander wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »In Germany, P.E. class is called Sports class. So everything you do in P.E. is sport.
I recall participating in juggling, hula hooping, and duck-duck-goose in gym, activities that are clearly sports . I’m hoping the Olympics include duck-duck-goose as a sport in 2024, I’m thinking I will certainly medal.
Well it is a physical competition which allows for defending against the opposing players so it does fit your own definition of a sport...
If the juggling and hula-hooping were done in competition then of course all 3 meet your definition, right? Hello Olympic Committee, can we get these all in place for Tokyo in 2020?
Nice deflection.
So does that mean that duck duck goose isn’t a sport? Based on what criteria?
It checks the box of defending against the opponent. Are you adding a new criteria? Does the game have to be played primarily by grown-ups to count as a sport? Does it have to be cool enough or “hard-core” enough to suit you?11 -
And for the record, yeah...if there were a way to allow for competition at the elite level, I’d be all for Duck Duck Goose in the Olympics.
I wouldn’t watch 3rd graders play it...but adults who figured out/trained to play in such a way as to be elite DDG players with whom the average Joe couldn’t begin to compete...I’d watch that any day.11 -
Being hungry means I'm doing it right. Shut up stomach, you've run this show for 30 years, time to take a back seat and stfu.
To me, being hungry means I’m doing it completely wrong. I’ve figured out what foods offer me maximal satiety and I’m not hungry any more often than I ever was. The biggest difference is that I’ve learned to eat until I’m satisfied, not necessarily until I’m completely stuffed. I don’t feel I’ve really had to suffer at all to lose weight (or now, to maintain it).
Cosigned. To me, it's completely doing it wrong. Minimizing misery = maximizing potential for long term compliance, imo.5 -
Being hungry means I'm doing it right. Shut up stomach, you've run this show for 30 years, time to take a back seat and stfu.
To me, being hungry means I’m doing it completely wrong. I’ve figured out what foods offer me maximal satiety and I’m not hungry any more often than I ever was. The biggest difference is that I’ve learned to eat until I’m satisfied, not necessarily until I’m completely stuffed. I don’t feel I’ve really had to suffer at all to lose weight (or now, to maintain it).
Makes sense and get what you're saying. Unfortunately, IMO for many their hunger signals are "broke" and they most likely need to feel hungry for a while until they are accustomed to a new lifestyle.3 -
Being hungry means I'm doing it right. Shut up stomach, you've run this show for 30 years, time to take a back seat and stfu.
To me, being hungry means I’m doing it completely wrong. I’ve figured out what foods offer me maximal satiety and I’m not hungry any more often than I ever was. The biggest difference is that I’ve learned to eat until I’m satisfied, not necessarily until I’m completely stuffed. I don’t feel I’ve really had to suffer at all to lose weight (or now, to maintain it).
absolutely...I am not and have not been hungry during my entire loss phase.
I don't like feeling "stuffed" it's uncomfortable...
if that means eating snacks of yogurt, cheese, fruit, chocolate etc (whatever suits my macros/mood at the time) so be it.
I have always contended that the ones who get to eat the most food and still lose/maintain their weight win this weight loss thing....2 -
Being hungry means I'm doing it right. Shut up stomach, you've run this show for 30 years, time to take a back seat and stfu.
To me, being hungry means I’m doing it completely wrong. I’ve figured out what foods offer me maximal satiety and I’m not hungry any more often than I ever was. The biggest difference is that I’ve learned to eat until I’m satisfied, not necessarily until I’m completely stuffed. I don’t feel I’ve really had to suffer at all to lose weight (or now, to maintain it).
absolutely...I am not and have not been hungry during my entire loss phase.
I don't like feeling "stuffed" it's uncomfortable...
if that means eating snacks of yogurt, cheese, fruit, chocolate etc (whatever suits my macros/mood at the time) so be it.
I have always contended that the ones who get to eat the most food and still lose/maintain their weight win this weight loss thing....
I can’t say that I have never been hungry during my journey. What I can say though is that being hungry is ok. Lol! It’s our bodies way of telling us it’s time to eat. The trick for me was distinguishing between true hunger and other false cues to eat, ie boredoms, stress and or depression.4 -
Carlos_421 wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »In Germany, P.E. class is called Sports class. So everything you do in P.E. is sport.
I recall participating in juggling, hula hooping, and duck-duck-goose in gym, activities that are clearly sports . I’m hoping the Olympics include duck-duck-goose as a sport in 2024, I’m thinking I will certainly medal.
Well it is a physical competition which allows for defending against the opposing players so it does fit your own definition of a sport...
If the juggling and hula-hooping were done in competition then of course all 3 meet your definition, right? Hello Olympic Committee, can we get these all in place for Tokyo in 2020?
We all just wait for your judgments to decide how to live.
If something as benign as a discussion on sports leaves you feeling judged then you are taking things way too seriously...
Dude what’s with the lack of reading comprehension and/or critical thinking lately?
Awaiting “your judgements to decide how to live” doesn’t mean anyone feels personally judged by you any more than “competing against each other” means being able to block the other team from scoring.
His point is that you’re not special and no one cares whether you declare gymnastics “not a sport” because your one, single, solitary opinion doesn’t mean beans to the rest of the world and we don’t need your stamp of approval on what is or isn’t deemed a sport.
This^ thanks!2 -
Carlos_421 wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »In Germany, P.E. class is called Sports class. So everything you do in P.E. is sport.
I recall participating in juggling, hula hooping, and duck-duck-goose in gym, activities that are clearly sports . I’m hoping the Olympics include duck-duck-goose as a sport in 2024, I’m thinking I will certainly medal.
Well it is a physical competition which allows for defending against the opposing players so it does fit your own definition of a sport...
If the juggling and hula-hooping were done in competition then of course all 3 meet your definition, right? Hello Olympic Committee, can we get these all in place for Tokyo in 2020?
We all just wait for your judgments to decide how to live.
If something as benign as a discussion on sports leaves you feeling judged then you are taking things way too seriously...
Dude what’s with the lack of reading comprehension and/or critical thinking lately?
Awaiting “your judgements to decide how to live” doesn’t mean anyone feels personally judged by you any more than “competing against each other” means being able to block the other team from scoring.
His point is that you’re not special and no one cares whether you declare gymnastics “not a sport” because your one, single, solitary opinion doesn’t mean beans to the rest of the world and we don’t need your stamp of approval on what is or isn’t deemed a sport.
I'm not special, you're not special, none of us are special. You honestly have my sympathies if you need the approval of an anonymous participant in an online forum for anything meaningful in your life.
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Bry_Lander wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »In Germany, P.E. class is called Sports class. So everything you do in P.E. is sport.
I recall participating in juggling, hula hooping, and duck-duck-goose in gym, activities that are clearly sports . I’m hoping the Olympics include duck-duck-goose as a sport in 2024, I’m thinking I will certainly medal.
Well it is a physical competition which allows for defending against the opposing players so it does fit your own definition of a sport...
If the juggling and hula-hooping were done in competition then of course all 3 meet your definition, right? Hello Olympic Committee, can we get these all in place for Tokyo in 2020?
We all just wait for your judgments to decide how to live.
If something as benign as a discussion on sports leaves you feeling judged then you are taking things way too seriously...
Dude what’s with the lack of reading comprehension and/or critical thinking lately?
Awaiting “your judgements to decide how to live” doesn’t mean anyone feels personally judged by you any more than “competing against each other” means being able to block the other team from scoring.
His point is that you’re not special and no one cares whether you declare gymnastics “not a sport” because your one, single, solitary opinion doesn’t mean beans to the rest of the world and we don’t need your stamp of approval on what is or isn’t deemed a sport.
I'm not special, you're not special, none of us are special. You honestly have my sympathies if you need the approval of an anonymous participant in an online forum for anything meaningful in your life.
Where did he say he did?3 -
Being hungry means I'm doing it right. Shut up stomach, you've run this show for 30 years, time to take a back seat and stfu.
To me, being hungry means I’m doing it completely wrong. I’ve figured out what foods offer me maximal satiety and I’m not hungry any more often than I ever was. The biggest difference is that I’ve learned to eat until I’m satisfied, not necessarily until I’m completely stuffed. I don’t feel I’ve really had to suffer at all to lose weight (or now, to maintain it).
What kind of "hungry" are we talking about? I can't imagine going through life never being hungry. I grew up being hungry before a meal and that's the way I still live. I can still hear my mom saying "No you can't have a snack, dinner will be ready soon." I still live that way. If I'm out shopping or something and get hungry, I rarely head for a drive thru. I stay hungry until I get home. If a planned meal isn't far off and I get hungry, I stay hungry until the meal.
I'm not saying I never have a snack when hungry, but most times I don't get hungry long before a meal in which case I just wait it out.
But everyone is different. I don't know that there is a right or wrong as long as it's working.5 -
Bry_Lander wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »In Germany, P.E. class is called Sports class. So everything you do in P.E. is sport.
I recall participating in juggling, hula hooping, and duck-duck-goose in gym, activities that are clearly sports . I’m hoping the Olympics include duck-duck-goose as a sport in 2024, I’m thinking I will certainly medal.
Well it is a physical competition which allows for defending against the opposing players so it does fit your own definition of a sport...
If the juggling and hula-hooping were done in competition then of course all 3 meet your definition, right? Hello Olympic Committee, can we get these all in place for Tokyo in 2020?
We all just wait for your judgments to decide how to live.
If something as benign as a discussion on sports leaves you feeling judged then you are taking things way too seriously...
Dude what’s with the lack of reading comprehension and/or critical thinking lately?
Awaiting “your judgements to decide how to live” doesn’t mean anyone feels personally judged by you any more than “competing against each other” means being able to block the other team from scoring.
His point is that you’re not special and no one cares whether you declare gymnastics “not a sport” because your one, single, solitary opinion doesn’t mean beans to the rest of the world and we don’t need your stamp of approval on what is or isn’t deemed a sport.
I'm not special, you're not special, none of us are special. You honestly have my sympathies if you need the approval of an anonymous participant in an online forum for anything meaningful in your life.
We don’t.
I’ll say it more slowly this time so that maybe you’ll finally understand.
No...one...cares...what...you...think...
The entire point of the post you’re responding to is that we don’t need your approval to live our lives.
Declare marathon running not a sport all you want...you’re one confused fish in the whole big sea and your misinterpretation of the accepted definition of “sport” has no impact on reality.
No one is being defensive or fighting for the honor of “their sport” due to feeling hurt or threatened by your opinion. You’re not important enough for anyone to care.
The reason people seem annoyed is because it’s frustrating trying to explain things to someone who seems to be deliberately obtuse in an effort to not accept that they’re wrong.17 -
Carlos_421 wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »In Germany, P.E. class is called Sports class. So everything you do in P.E. is sport.
I recall participating in juggling, hula hooping, and duck-duck-goose in gym, activities that are clearly sports . I’m hoping the Olympics include duck-duck-goose as a sport in 2024, I’m thinking I will certainly medal.
Well it is a physical competition which allows for defending against the opposing players so it does fit your own definition of a sport...
If the juggling and hula-hooping were done in competition then of course all 3 meet your definition, right? Hello Olympic Committee, can we get these all in place for Tokyo in 2020?
We all just wait for your judgments to decide how to live.
If something as benign as a discussion on sports leaves you feeling judged then you are taking things way too seriously...
Dude what’s with the lack of reading comprehension and/or critical thinking lately?
Awaiting “your judgements to decide how to live” doesn’t mean anyone feels personally judged by you any more than “competing against each other” means being able to block the other team from scoring.
His point is that you’re not special and no one cares whether you declare gymnastics “not a sport” because your one, single, solitary opinion doesn’t mean beans to the rest of the world and we don’t need your stamp of approval on what is or isn’t deemed a sport.
I'm not special, you're not special, none of us are special. You honestly have my sympathies if you need the approval of an anonymous participant in an online forum for anything meaningful in your life.
We don’t.
I’ll say it more slowly this time so that maybe you’ll finally understand.
No...one...cares...what...you...think...
The entire point of the post you’re responding to is that we don’t need your approval to live our lives.
Declare marathon running not a sport all you want...you’re one confused fish in the whole big sea and your misinterpretation of the accepted definition of “sport” has no impact on reality.
No one is being defensive or fighting for the honor of “their sport” due to feeling hurt or threatened by your opinion. You’re not important enough for anyone to care.
The reason people seem annoyed is because it’s frustrating trying to explain things to someone who seems to be deliberately obtuse in an effort to not accept that they’re wrong.
and there it is...4 -
Lol!Bry_Lander wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »In Germany, P.E. class is called Sports class. So everything you do in P.E. is sport.
I recall participating in juggling, hula hooping, and duck-duck-goose in gym, activities that are clearly sports . I’m hoping the Olympics include duck-duck-goose as a sport in 2024, I’m thinking I will certainly medal.
Well it is a physical competition which allows for defending against the opposing players so it does fit your own definition of a sport...
If the juggling and hula-hooping were done in competition then of course all 3 meet your definition, right? Hello Olympic Committee, can we get these all in place for Tokyo in 2020?
We all just wait for your judgments to decide how to live.
If something as benign as a discussion on sports leaves you feeling judged then you are taking things way too seriously...
Dude what’s with the lack of reading comprehension and/or critical thinking lately?
Awaiting “your judgements to decide how to live” doesn’t mean anyone feels personally judged by you any more than “competing against each other” means being able to block the other team from scoring.
His point is that you’re not special and no one cares whether you declare gymnastics “not a sport” because your one, single, solitary opinion doesn’t mean beans to the rest of the world and we don’t need your stamp of approval on what is or isn’t deemed a sport.
I'm not special, you're not special, none of us are special. You honestly have my sympathies if you need the approval of an anonymous participant in an online forum for anything meaningful in your life.
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