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What are your unpopular opinions about health / fitness?
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canadianlbs wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »I have an *unpopular*
oh yay, back on track. me:
i'm old enough to remember when jane fonda was a thing, and in the same kind of way only more-so, i resent the *kitten* out of bret contreras. it's not about his expertise or the validity of his programme. it simply isn't his place to define what makes a woman 'genetically gifted' or not, or be indirectly setting the standard for what shape of bum we 'should' have.
I think he is known as the "glute guy". Even guys go to him to improve in that "area". Society sets the standard, and it's up to each individual person to want to look like the rest of society or come up with their own version of what they'd want to look like (fat, or skinny, or muscular, etc) regardless of what others think. He simply helps those that wish to look like his clients that he helps. I don't think it's anymore complicated than that. He helps people build muscle and only those who like his opinions would go to him. If they don't, then I'm not sure why they'd care about him helping others that are align with his opinions. It's anyones place to form an opinion. There's nothing wrong with him having an opinion.5 -
Penthesilea514 wrote: »suzannesimmons3 wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »suzannesimmons3 wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »suzannesimmons3 wrote: »Psst. ....all you sugar addicts.
I can supply all sorts of British goodies. ...for the right price of course
If you can get Lion Bars for less than $2.50 each delivered we might be able to find an arrangement.
American or Canadian $
Oh!!! Amazon price has gone down since the last time I checked, they're down to 1.15. MMMMM
I apologize....
OH, and US.
I don't know what any of these yummies are.
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A lion bar is what you would get if you crossed a little debbie peanut wafer bar with a snickers bar... Chocolate, rice crisps, nuts, caramel
Also comes in white chocolate....
Okay, here is my unpopular opinion- I think white chocolate is super gross. I won't eat it. I am not that picky a person about food, I will always try something at least once, but nope, really hate white chocolate. My OH loves it and his chocolate stash is always safe from me. Even Shark Week cravings won't compel me to eat it >.<
I'm with you. As far as I'm concerned, white 'chocolate' is not real chocolate.
http://www.bostonchocolatetours.com/2011/08/white-chocolate-chocolate/
Some people will argue white chocolate is not actually chocolate. It certainly doesn’t look like chocolate as we know it, and it doesn’t smell like chocolate. But it is called white chocolate, so isn’t it, indeed, chocolate?
During the chocolate making process, cocoa butter becomes a by-product of the cocoa bean. To create white chocolate, the cocoa butter is combined with milk, sugar, and other flavoring ingredients, but none of the cocoa bean is included. Some would consider white chocolate not chocolate because none of the cocoa solid is part of the end product.
However, if you were to smell cocoa beans and raw cocoa butter, it is the cocoa butter that would have the distinct chocolate smell. The cocoa bean doesn’t smell sweet at all. And cocoa butter did come from the cocoa bean.
So, is white chocolate chocolate? You decide.6 -
Noreenmarie1234 wrote: »I hate how when you are waiting at an office for a doctor or a lawyer or anything they always say have a seat and everyone is always sitting I preferred to stand when I am waiting. I sit all day long at my job why would I want to sit more !? Everyone always has to be sitting down for everything and everyone always goes out of their way to make sure your sitting or have a seat in any circumstance. I think it's lazy. (For people who don't have medical conditions or are impaired). Not saying everyone has to be standing but I hate how people act like your insane if you prefer to stand and wait or not be sitting at every chance.
This reminded me of how I've recently noticed that a lot more people are taking the stairs these days. Used to be I'd never see anyone on the stairs. But when my OH's mother was in the hospital and recently at the VA, I'm no longer alone there. The VA has pretty murals on the walls, too, which is nice.2 -
I get what your'e saying, but I do find it weird to have a guy who's made that his main focus. But then, if one wants to fit in with the current societal standard, then that would certainly make him the go-to person.canadianlbs wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »I have an *unpopular*
oh yay, back on track. me:
i'm old enough to remember when jane fonda was a thing, and in the same kind of way only more-so, i resent the *kitten* out of bret contreras. it's not about his expertise or the validity of his programme. it simply isn't his place to define what makes a woman 'genetically gifted' or not, or be indirectly setting the standard for what shape of bum we 'should' have.
I think he is known as the "glute guy". Even guys go to him to improve in that "area". Society sets the standard, and it's up to each individual person to want to look like the rest of society or come up with their own version of what they'd want to look like (fat, or skinny, or muscular, etc) regardless of what others think. He simply helps those that wish to look like his clients that he helps. I don't think it's anymore complicated than that. He helps people build muscle and only those who like his opinions would go to him. If they don't, then I'm not sure why they'd care about him helping others that are align with his opinions. It's anyones place to form an opinion. There's nothing wrong with him having an opinion.
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ForecasterJason wrote: »
I get what your'e saying, but I do find it weird to have a guy who's made that his main focus. But then, if one wants to fit in with the current societal standard, then that would certainly make him the go-to person.canadianlbs wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »I have an *unpopular*
oh yay, back on track. me:
i'm old enough to remember when jane fonda was a thing, and in the same kind of way only more-so, i resent the *kitten* out of bret contreras. it's not about his expertise or the validity of his programme. it simply isn't his place to define what makes a woman 'genetically gifted' or not, or be indirectly setting the standard for what shape of bum we 'should' have.
I think he is known as the "glute guy". Even guys go to him to improve in that "area". Society sets the standard, and it's up to each individual person to want to look like the rest of society or come up with their own version of what they'd want to look like (fat, or skinny, or muscular, etc) regardless of what others think. He simply helps those that wish to look like his clients that he helps. I don't think it's anymore complicated than that. He helps people build muscle and only those who like his opinions would go to him. If they don't, then I'm not sure why they'd care about him helping others that are align with his opinions. It's anyones place to form an opinion. There's nothing wrong with him having an opinion.
The glutea are the largest muscles in the body. His research and training are designed to increase functionality of the muscles in the human performance setting.
Appearance is a byproduct.2 -
Packerjohn wrote: »ForecasterJason wrote: »
I get what your'e saying, but I do find it weird to have a guy who's made that his main focus. But then, if one wants to fit in with the current societal standard, then that would certainly make him the go-to person.canadianlbs wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »I have an *unpopular*
oh yay, back on track. me:
i'm old enough to remember when jane fonda was a thing, and in the same kind of way only more-so, i resent the *kitten* out of bret contreras. it's not about his expertise or the validity of his programme. it simply isn't his place to define what makes a woman 'genetically gifted' or not, or be indirectly setting the standard for what shape of bum we 'should' have.
I think he is known as the "glute guy". Even guys go to him to improve in that "area". Society sets the standard, and it's up to each individual person to want to look like the rest of society or come up with their own version of what they'd want to look like (fat, or skinny, or muscular, etc) regardless of what others think. He simply helps those that wish to look like his clients that he helps. I don't think it's anymore complicated than that. He helps people build muscle and only those who like his opinions would go to him. If they don't, then I'm not sure why they'd care about him helping others that are align with his opinions. It's anyones place to form an opinion. There's nothing wrong with him having an opinion.
The glutea are the largest muscles in the body. His research and training are designed to increase functionality of the muscles in the human performance setting.
Appearance is a byproduct.
This makes sense. When I was in physical therapy for low back/hip issues (hypermobility leading to muscle pain), they had me work a lot on my glutes. Re-learning to use the right muscles helps alleviate the stress and therefore pain on the other ones.
OTOH, now a lot of people, especially women, want the rounded booty. So appearance isn't always a byproduct anymore, but actually the goal.0 -
Packerjohn wrote: »Appearance is a byproduct.
which would be just fine by me if his presentation walked that particular talk. it doesn't, and it's the presentation i have an issue with.
if bret contreras were some random guy in some gym passing unsolicited comments about the shape and 'quality' of women's rear ends, he'd get smacked no matter how many phd's he might have.
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cmriverside wrote: »I have an *unpopular*
What is with $6 loaves of bread? I mean, yes, Dave's Killer bread is tasty. But is it $4.50 a loaf more tasty than the regular whole wheat? I submit that it is not.
@cmriverside, do you by any chance read Jeff Kay's West Virginia Surf Report? "I submit that there is not" is a phrase he uses a lot and it makes me smile.2 -
cmriverside wrote: »I have an *unpopular*
What is with $6 loaves of bread? I mean, yes, Dave's Killer bread is tasty. But is it $4.50 a loaf more tasty than the regular whole wheat? I submit that it is not.
@cmriverside, do you by any chance read Jeff Kay's West Virginia Surf Report? "I submit that there is not" is a phrase he uses a lot and it makes me smile.
No. What is it? If it's a surf report, I still have animosity toward a particular surfboard that injured me circa 1970.
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Oh, no. Someone is gonna accuse me of living in the past and not letting go, huh?
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I just read the one you linked. LOL, I like it.1
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canadianlbs wrote: »Packerjohn wrote: »Appearance is a byproduct.
which would be just fine by me if his presentation walked that particular talk. it doesn't, and it's the presentation i have an issue with.
if bret contreras were some random guy in some gym passing unsolicited comments about the shape and 'quality' of women's rear ends, he'd get smacked no matter how many phd's he might have.
Not exactly sure what "presentation" you're referring to. I've been following the guy for 8-10 years. He seems to root his advice in science.
If you do find issues with the presentations, I would guess it's because he has to compete with Instagram bimbos who have no knowledge/education and are making millions telling the world their "secret" to the barely covered glutes they are showing off. Note: telling the "secret" doesn't include the part about cosmetic surgery.2 -
canadianlbs wrote: »Packerjohn wrote: »Appearance is a byproduct.
which would be just fine by me if his presentation walked that particular talk. it doesn't, and it's the presentation i have an issue with.
if bret contreras were some random guy in some gym passing unsolicited comments about the shape and 'quality' of women's rear ends, he'd get smacked no matter how many phd's he might have.
I get what you're saying, but he's speaking to a specific audience - the audience that wants "that type" of booty. He's not just speaking randomly. One of the things I tend to say is, "know your audience." He does.
If you're (general you, not specifically you) not interested in glute development, you probably wouldn't follow him or his advice. In which case, I'm not sure why it matters how he speaks to his clientele. If you are, you probably should. And, in the case that you are interested in that department, you may or may not be (or feel that you are) "gifted" in that department. It's not really a judgment - it's just playing to that particular group.3 -
canadianlbs wrote: »Packerjohn wrote: »Appearance is a byproduct.
which would be just fine by me if his presentation walked that particular talk. it doesn't, and it's the presentation i have an issue with.
if bret contreras were some random guy in some gym passing unsolicited comments about the shape and 'quality' of women's rear ends, he'd get smacked no matter how many phd's he might have.
I get what you're saying, but he's speaking to a specific audience - the audience that wants "that type" of booty. He's not just speaking randomly. One of the things I tend to say is, "know your audience." He does.
If you're (general you, not specifically you) not interested in glute development, you probably wouldn't follow him or his advice. In which case, I'm not sure why it matters how he speaks to his clientele. If you are, you probably should. And, in the case that you are interested in that department, you may or may not be (or feel that you are) "gifted" in that department. It's not really a judgment - it's just playing to that particular group.
I agree with this.
I think the phrase "gifted" refers to someone who doesn't have to work (as) hard to achieve what you want to achieve. It doesn't mean one is better than the other though, it is very goal dependent.
For example, I consider myself gifted in the calf department, the shape, the size, the muscles are very developed but still proportional to my body. I don't work them at all either.. if anything I wouldn't mind if they went down a little to be honest! But that doesn't' mean that huge calves are better than small calves, just means I have a genetic predisposition to large one and to someone who wants to grow theirs I might be considered gifted genetically.
I don't know if that made sense but that is how I feel about the whole gifted thing, I don't get offended since I am not genetically predisposed to a larger booty. Just means I have to work harder if that is something I desire. If it's not, then I wouldn't worry about it.3 -
Everyone can and should get some form of exercise. I know I have made people upset with this opinion in the past but I stand by it. Unless you can't move your arms and legs at all you can do something and for health should.
When I spent a Summer unable to walk I found light hand weight routines and seated cardio. When my shoulder/arm gives me trouble it's leg day or I go for a run.
So many people, even on this site with "Fitness" in the name dismiss the importance of exercise as unnecessary or something extra. It is necessary to be healthy though6 -
I think exercise is important for health and quite helpful (IME, anyway) for weight loss, and even more so for weight maintenance, although it depends on the person.
I'd still say exercise is not necessary for weight loss, because it is not.
If someone told me they wanted to lose weight, but the sticking point was exercise, because they did not want to do it/couldn't imagine ever being a person who did it or had no time, I'd tell them that just walking more and working that into your life in smaller increments can be excellent exercise, much better than nothing, and should not be dismissed as not counting. I'd also suggest trying lots of different things and broadening (again) the idea of exercise from slaving away at a gym.
BUT, as we discussed upthread about "eating clean" (or even just eating "healthy"), I think it's worth pointing out that desirable as exercise is, just losing weight is good for health, and you can do that without exercise if you really, really don't want to or think you cannot exercise.
Many people change their minds about exercise, also, when they feel better about their bodies and also just feel better about moving around, as weight loss can help with. I'd never say that exercise is not important for health, but I totally understand why people stress that you don't have to choose between being willing/able (in your own mind) to exercise and losing weight.
I think it's a shame that this position is taken as saying exercise/fitness is not important. I'd say it's meeting people where they are.8 -
For lifelong weight loss it's not about calories or exercise.
It's about tearing down and building up new habits.7 -
Unpopular opinion: sit-ups and crunches are horrible. Cardio sucks.6
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Everyone can and should get some form of exercise. I know I have made people upset with this opinion in the past but I stand by it. Unless you can't move your arms and legs at all you can do something and for health should.
When I spent a Summer unable to walk I found light hand weight routines and seated cardio. When my shoulder/arm gives me trouble it's leg day or I go for a run.
So many people, even on this site with "Fitness" in the name dismiss the importance of exercise as unnecessary or something extra. It is necessary to be healthy though
Yep. The ability to move/exercise is a gift..
Don't waste the gift.17 -
Packerjohn wrote: »Everyone can and should get some form of exercise. I know I have made people upset with this opinion in the past but I stand by it. Unless you can't move your arms and legs at all you can do something and for health should.
When I spent a Summer unable to walk I found light hand weight routines and seated cardio. When my shoulder/arm gives me trouble it's leg day or I go for a run.
So many people, even on this site with "Fitness" in the name dismiss the importance of exercise as unnecessary or something extra. It is necessary to be healthy though
Yep. The ability to move/exercise is a gift..
Don't waste the gift.
That was actually part of my wake-up call. As I've mentioned on numerous other threads (and probably this one!), I've got refluxed veins due to my legs having to carry too much... me. I ignored the warning signs, so my body shrieked. I.E., because my lymphatic system was being obstructed, I ended up with lymphedema. And the doctors told me that I had to rest my leg as much as possible. No walking. Either a taxi or a wheelchair to get to my doctor's office six blocks away. Buses for grocery shopping, when that had been about the only walking I was still getting at my heaviest. By the time the vascular surgeon told me I was okay to start walking again, I was champing at the bit. I started slow: minimum 25 minutes of walking, every day, come hell or high water. Things increased from there. But it was really the temporary 'ban' on walking that got me off my *kitten* and moving around again.15
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