What terms/phrases wind you up about losing weight?
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canadianlbs wrote: »jessiferrrb wrote: »not MFP specific, but it totally irks me when people post about "females"
ayup. as if 'woman' was a dirty word or something.
I'm curious as to why is there a negative connotation associated with the word female but not male. They are just words to describe gender.
At least it's not chicks.6 -
Chef_Barbell wrote: »canadianlbs wrote: »jessiferrrb wrote: »not MFP specific, but it totally irks me when people post about "females"
ayup. as if 'woman' was a dirty word or something.
I'm curious as to why is there a negative connotation associated with the word female but not male. They are just words to describe gender.
At least it's not chicks.
it really makes me wonder what kind of psycho babble english classes some people had growing up.2 -
"Breakfast is the most important meal of the day"
"You'll go into starvation mode if you fast"
"Juicing is good for you"
"Lifestyle Coach"
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Chef_Barbell wrote: »canadianlbs wrote: »jessiferrrb wrote: »not MFP specific, but it totally irks me when people post about "females"
ayup. as if 'woman' was a dirty word or something.
I'm curious as to why is there a negative connotation associated with the word female but not male. They are just words to describe gender.
At least it's not chicks.
And has been explained and described. Much of it is cultural.
Medical. Male and female doctor... not man doctor and woman doctor(unless you're describing an OB/GYN specialist)
Ditto for nurses.
Military. Male and female soldier/sailor/airman/marine. Not woman marine or man marine.
Ditto for Police, fire, etc.2 -
stanmann571 wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »canadianlbs wrote: »jessiferrrb wrote: »not MFP specific, but it totally irks me when people post about "females"
ayup. as if 'woman' was a dirty word or something.
I'm curious as to why is there a negative connotation associated with the word female but not male. They are just words to describe gender.
At least it's not chicks.
And has been explained and described. Much of it is cultural.
Medical. Male and female doctor... not man doctor and woman doctor(unless you're describing an OB/GYN specialist)
Ditto for nurses.
Military. Male and female soldier/sailor/airman/marine. Not woman marine or man marine.
Ditto for Police, fire, etc.
Yup.
But I wasn't asking you as I agree with what you said.1 -
"Diet starts tomorrow" - Tony Huge, LOL!1
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paperpudding wrote: »I don't get why - if people posted about women would you say females was a dirty word???
A lot of it comes down to tone (since some people use the term "females" to dehumanize women; admittedly, most people don't mean it that way). A quick and easy test is "would you use the term 'males' if your sentence was about men?" If so, it's probably fine.6 -
After reading 20 pages of this including adding my own commentary I've realized something. Everybody gets wound up about something but it isn't necessarily the same as what someone else gets uptight about.
Certain things annoy me. Certain things enrage me. Other things are irritating but manageable. But if I don't like it, I substitute the words I like or don't read the thread. Problem solved.
But here's the thing: if someone read through this thread looking for advice on what they can and can't say, no one would ever post anything ever again because everything annoys someone.
So I personally would say to anyone reading this: take everything with a bit of good humour and a grain of salt. If "journey" works for you, use it. If you like "lifestyle change" use that. Ask your questions. Read through the pages and pages of questions and answers already shared. Delve into the drama and continue on.18 -
I am not a fan of "skinny minnie." Makes me clench my teeth. I appreciate nice comments on my weight loss, but to me, skinny is not a word I strive for. I prefer to be fit, thinnER (not quite thin yet) or healthy.1
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There is a certain type of man, who without ever planning to, will tend to say "men" and "females". It generally accompanies a certain attitude.
On the flipside, I know a woman (just the one) who always says "ladies" and "males". Before you ask, she is absolutely not a feminist in any way, shape or form, and her habit of referring to men as 'males' comes from the same place as men who refer to men and females. She generalises about men as sex-obsessed sports maniacs, incapable of higher thought, and only good for sex in the same way Red Pillers generalise that all women are financially irresponsible shoe-obsessives, incapable of higher thought and only good for sex.
She's been single for a long time now...
She can't seem to make the connection between her outlook and her love-life, and why a man might not want to date someone longterm who views him with deep-seated contempt.10 -
That your digestive system goes to sleep at night. Nope definitely not. As someone with an ileostomy i wish this was true!5
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I'm fine with "male" and "female" used when specifying which gender is meant in discussing an occupation--physicians, nurses, soldiers, etc. It sounds fine and correct to me in that context. But otherwise people are men or women, not male or female. Out of the occupational context, I think male and female are best used in describing animal genders.
That bird is a female. That cat is a male.
That person is a man. That person is a woman.
That's just me and I never mention it to anyone in any case. (And I'm only speaking in generalizations here--not wanting to get into a discussion whether gender is binary or fluid, etc.)4 -
'peanut butter is a good source of protein'.
GAH. Might as well say that bread is a good source of protein then. So aggravating.8 -
'peanut butter is a good source of protein'.
GAH. Might as well say that bread is a good source of protein then. So aggravating.
Peanut Butter IS an objectively good source of protein
Chicken breast has 16 grams protein per 52 gram serving
Peanut butter has 8 grams protein per 32 gram serving
Bread has less than 3.6 grams protein per 28 gram serving
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stanmann571 wrote: »'peanut butter is a good source of protein'.
GAH. Might as well say that bread is a good source of protein then. So aggravating.
Peanut Butter IS an objectively good source of protein
Chicken breast has 16 grams protein per 52 gram serving
Peanut butter has 8 grams protein per 32 gram serving
Bread has less than 3.6 grams protein per 28 gram serving
Weight doesn't matter one bit. You're supposed to look at the amount of protein per calories.
200 calories of chicken breast give you 40g of protein
200 calories of PB will give you 7g of protein
200 calories of French bread will give you 8g of protein
So yep. French bread is a better source of protein than peanut butter.16 -
stanmann571 wrote: »'peanut butter is a good source of protein'.
GAH. Might as well say that bread is a good source of protein then. So aggravating.
Peanut Butter IS an objectively good source of protein
Chicken breast has 16 grams protein per 52 gram serving
Peanut butter has 8 grams protein per 32 gram serving
Bread has less than 3.6 grams protein per 28 gram serving
Weight doesn't matter one bit. You're supposed to look at the amount of protein per calories.
200 calories of chicken breast give you 40g of protein
200 calories of PB will give you 7g of protein
200 calories of French bread will give you 8g of protein
So yep. French bread is a better source of protein than peanut butter.
200 calories of French bread is half a loaf(8 servings)
200 calories of PB is half a serving.
200 calories of chicken breast is 2 servings
Dowhatchalike, but that doesn't make PB a poor source of Protein.
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stanmann571 wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »'peanut butter is a good source of protein'.
GAH. Might as well say that bread is a good source of protein then. So aggravating.
Peanut Butter IS an objectively good source of protein
Chicken breast has 16 grams protein per 52 gram serving
Peanut butter has 8 grams protein per 32 gram serving
Bread has less than 3.6 grams protein per 28 gram serving
Weight doesn't matter one bit. You're supposed to look at the amount of protein per calories.
200 calories of chicken breast give you 40g of protein
200 calories of PB will give you 7g of protein
200 calories of French bread will give you 8g of protein
So yep. French bread is a better source of protein than peanut butter.
200 calories of French bread is half a loaf(8 servings)
200 calories of PB is half a serving.
200 calories of chicken breast is 2 servings
Dowhatchalike, but that doesn't make PB a poor source of Protein.
Yes it does. Maybe not a 'poor' one, but definitely not a good one, which is what I was saying. 3.5g of protein per 100 calories is not a good ratio of protein. Heck, Ben&Jerry's vanilla ice cream has 6g of protein for 190 calories!
Also, a serving of French bread is typically 2oz... 140 calories. I'm not sure where you get your 8 servings from.2 -
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stanmann571 wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »'peanut butter is a good source of protein'.
GAH. Might as well say that bread is a good source of protein then. So aggravating.
Peanut Butter IS an objectively good source of protein
Chicken breast has 16 grams protein per 52 gram serving
Peanut butter has 8 grams protein per 32 gram serving
Bread has less than 3.6 grams protein per 28 gram serving
Weight doesn't matter one bit. You're supposed to look at the amount of protein per calories.
200 calories of chicken breast give you 40g of protein
200 calories of PB will give you 7g of protein
200 calories of French bread will give you 8g of protein
So yep. French bread is a better source of protein than peanut butter.
200 calories of French bread is half a loaf(8 servings)
200 calories of PB is half a serving.
200 calories of chicken breast is 2 servings
Dowhatchalike, but that doesn't make PB a poor source of Protein.
wat.
Your french bread servings are whack too. 1 serving by your calculations would be 25 calories, that's less than 10 gram.1 -
Also the % of calories does make it a good or a poor source of protein. Using a quarter of your calories for 20 grams of protein is not a good ratio.6
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Using "Female" to describe an adult human being is dehumanizing, particularly when juxtaposed with using "men" for other adult human beings. One specifically refers to adult human beings of a gender, the other refers to all creatures of a gender without respect to their species. That the species is contextually implied doesn't lessen the inequality ; the use of "females" rather than "women" when paired with "men" makes it clear that the former are no better than animals.
As others have said, it is most often used in a context of derision, approbation or contempt. It's a jarring grammatic inconsistency, and its use clearly signals either ignorance or disrespect.16 -
Using "Female" to describe an adult human being is dehumanizing, particularly when juxtaposed with using "men" for other adult human beings. One specifically refers to adult human beings of a gender, the other refers to all creatures of a gender without respect to their species. That the species is contextually implied doesn't lessen the inequality ; the use of "females" rather than "women" when paired with "men" makes it clear that the former are no better than animals.
As others have said, it is most often used in a context of derision, approbation or contempt. It's a jarring grammatic inconsistency, and its use clearly signals either ignorance or disrespect.
Seems like a lot of energy out into a word to me. *shrug*9 -
dutchandkiwi wrote: »This isn't really a specific phrase, but I hate when someone joins an internet forum, spends zero time reading old posts to understand the culture of the place, than asks some dumb question that would have been answered in 5 minutes of reading. Ad infinitum.
This totally yes x 1 000 000
That is probably me..lol0 -
"Fluffy".
No, it's fat. I can almost hear the slightly self-deprecating "tee hee" that goes along with "fluffy".
Not weight/health related, but often seen here: "XX years young". Bespeaks denial, self-deprecation, and a pathetic, near-apologetic desperation, when said of oneself; patronizing when used to describe others. (P.S., I'm 61; people my age say this. Yuck. Old is a good thing: Consider the actual alternative, which is not "young".)
Own who you are. Don't apologize, don't imply self-hatred by euphemizing. If you want to be different, change what you can influence or control.
Fat does not offend me, if I am describing myself but I like when the men say I am thick....that's hot.0 -
Another peevish, elitist pedantry moment: "Palette" instead of "palate".
People, people, people: You put paint on a palette. You use a palate to appreciate flavors. Do not use your palette to choose foods, unless you improbably need to match your colorful veggies to your paintings.
</peevish></elitist></pedantry>
I never knew that. Thank you4 -
I am not a fan of "skinny minnie." Makes me clench my teeth. I appreciate nice comments on my weight loss, but to me, skinny is not a word I strive for. I prefer to be fit, thinnER (not quite thin yet) or healthy.
I like when people call me skinny. It makes me chuckle cause I know they are giving me a compliment, but I am nowheres close to skinny.1 -
There's another thread going right now where the discussion is about "full fat" coke. I know that's a regional colloquialism, maybe started as a joke. But it gives me a full-body shudder.6
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"Fluffy".
No, it's fat. I can almost hear the slightly self-deprecating "tee hee" that goes along with "fluffy".
Not weight/health related, but often seen here: "XX years young". Bespeaks denial, self-deprecation, and a pathetic, near-apologetic desperation, when said of oneself; patronizing when used to describe others. (P.S., I'm 61; people my age say this. Yuck. Old is a good thing: Consider the actual alternative, which is not "young".)
Own who you are. Don't apologize, don't imply self-hatred by euphemizing. If you want to be different, change what you can influence or control.
Fat does not offend me, if I am describing myself but I like when the men say I am thick....that's hot.
I would cry if anyone called me thick. It would mean I wasn't too smart.
Cheers, h.10
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