What terms/phrases wind you up about losing weight?
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I confess that I genuinely thought palette and palette were homonyms!Another peevish, elitist pedantry moment: "Palette" instead of "palate".
People, people, people: You put paint on a palette. You use a palate to appreciate flavors. Do not use your palette to choose foods, unless you improbably need to match your colorful veggies to your paintings.
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Anything pseudo scientific. Keto is not healthy for anyone except for therapeutic purposes. Look up what ketogenesis is; smelling ketones on your breath ain't good.
Detox/toxins. Come on yo, this is how people sell you on ripoff supplements that do nothing.
Any kind of weight loss short cut.
Never ever eat below 1200 calories; hullo there are pretty tiny humans around and we exist, pathologizing people based on an arbitrary metric is ridiculous. Not to say that some people don't use this as an excuse for their EDs.
Which brings me to "I don't have an eating disorder, but I can't sleep I'm so hungry!" We need to as a community discourage extreme behaviors and support moderate behaviors. It's so easy to slip into disordered eating; something like 35% of dieters do. Hell, I sometimes do too. Let's just look out for each other, aiit?
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J9LynnHelton wrote: »"Research shows" then gives their opinion without any indication of where and what the research is. This isn't just when it comes to dieting. I have colleagues who do this at work. They do it to shut down the debate by claiming they are an expert or there is scientific evidence they are right. Frustrating.
Given the huge percentage of medical research that is essentially fraudulent I've learned to mistrust any appeal to authority that starts with, "Research has shown . . ."
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"Don't eat anything you can't pronounce"
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"Muscle weighs more than fat"
No. 1lb is 1lb regardless. A ton of feathers weighs the same as a ton of bricks.
Muscle just takes up less space than fat.5 -
x_stephisaur_x wrote: »"Muscle weighs more than fat"
No. 1lb is 1lb regardless. A ton of feathers weighs the same as a ton of bricks.
Muscle just takes up less space than fat.
By that argument, no.
A cubic centimeter is a cubic centimeter regardless. A cc of muscle takes up the same space as a cc of fat.
The cc of muscle just weighs more.
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I see your point. I meant more that 1lb of muscle takes up less space than 1lb of fat
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HeliumIsNoble wrote: »
Oooooooooooooh.Carlos_421 wrote: »
If I say I pigged out, I'm probably bragging. Lolsunfastrose wrote: »I hate the term "pigging out" when referring to self. It's so self hating.LovesDogsAndBooks wrote: »LovesDogsAndBooks wrote: »English is not my first language, so I don't get what's wrong with talking about "muscle tone" or "being toned"? Just had a quick glance at Wikipedia, and the word seems related to muscle.
It is. Atonic literally means 'lacking muscular tone.' So tone is technically fine to say.
However, when someone says they want to 'tone up' I still always picture this:
Thanks! Maybe there are certain negative connotations that you only have as a native speaker. But there have been a couple of people here in this thread that are bothered by someone saying muscle tone or getting toned. Then they seem to be wrong, not the people who say that.
There is a misconception that a person's muscles may be soft and "un-toned" and that working out with light weights or cardio will "tone" those muscles, making them tighter and firmer (appearing smaller). However, that's not actually how things work so when people take issue with people wanting to "tone," it has more to do with this misconception than the word itself.
The truth is that muscle is denser and firmer than fat so if your arm feels soft and squishy, it's because you have fat in your arm. The way to "get toned" then is to either 1) lose the fat to reveal the muscle underneath or 2) build the muscle (making it bigger) so that it can be seen/felt in contrast to the fat.
However, people think that if they're not too overweight and they feel soft, it's not due to the presence of fat and their muscles are just soft/fluffy, which is not really the case.
Is THAT what the toning arguments are about? Did not realise that anyone was under that misapprehension at all. I've been vaguely noticing passionate arguments on "toning"and whether it was possible to "make yourself toned" for yonks.
Did wonder why anyone would be arguing against the idea that it's possible to make your muscles slightly bigger, but not very much bigger.
Light has dawned.
To me, "toning" means "tightening". For example, back in college I took an exercise class 3 times a week; tons of crunches for an hour was the main exercise, I swear! I lost 1 1/2 inches off my waist...but not a pound of weight because I was eating like a pig. I was "toning" up. I think it is completely possible to tone muscles, meaning having them tighten up.
"Loose" weight makes me nuts. It's clearly not a typo. People just don't know how to spell. You see a lot of "cloths" instead of "clothes" too. You don't wear "cloths"...cloth is what clothes are made from. Also, "advice" is what you are asking for not "advise". You are asking ME to give YOU advice...and I am advising you. They're two different words!
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Ghostofachance wrote: »Forgot to mention people talking about their "cheat day."
You didn't cheat, you made a conscious decision to eat what you wanted in the quantities you wanted! Grrrr!
This... drives me crazy2 -
"That's all you are eating?" (like don't fake it you are fat. We know you MUST eat more than that)
And conversely
"You are going to eat all that?" (like aren't you fat enough? Or didn't you say you are trying to lose weight?)
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jennifer_417 wrote: »None. It actually annoys me how wound up people get over particular phrases.
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The automatic "1200 calories is too low! You're starving yourself and it's not healthy!" response to any poster that wants to discuss anything involving eating 1200 calories. Just stop it until you learn enough about OP's situation to give rational advice.
For many of us 1200 calories is NOT too low - there are plenty of us older, shorter women on these boards who lose weight at the rate of .5 lbs or less a week on 1200 calories, even those of us who are moderately active. And I really resent it when the poster goes on to boast "I'm 5'1" and I eat 2500 calories just to MAINTAIN!"
Well, how nice for you, and thanks for throwing it in my face.
Edited to fix a word
OMG, THIS.9 -
BMI being the end-all-be-all on how overweight or fit you are.0
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Jdismybug1 wrote: »Ghostofachance wrote: »Forgot to mention people talking about their "cheat day."
You didn't cheat, you made a conscious decision to eat what you wanted in the quantities you wanted! Grrrr!
This... drives me crazy
Cheating is always a conscious choice. You don't accidentally cheat on tests either. It is more that cheating on anything has negative consequences, and when people don't want to own up to those and accept them, it can get annoying.0 -
LadyLilion wrote: »
"Loose" weight makes me nuts. It's clearly not a typo. People just don't know how to spell. You see a lot of "cloths" instead of "clothes" too. You don't wear "cloths"...cloth is what clothes are made from. Also, "advice" is what you are asking for not "advise". You are asking ME to give YOU advice...and I am advising you. They're two different words!
Grammar police rant done.
Autocorrect / swype predictions are awful. Things I would never type with a computer wind up being sent when I'm on my phone.4 -
jennifer_417 wrote: »None. It actually annoys me how wound up people get over particular phrases.
I agree. It's especially weird to me since it seems that most of the time, it's people who are taking an obvious idiom literally.
Like, "I could care less" means the person doesn't care. Everybody knows that but people still want to complain forever about how it literally means that you do care.3 -
nokanjaijo wrote: »jennifer_417 wrote: »None. It actually annoys me how wound up people get over particular phrases.
I agree. It's especially weird to me since it seems that most of the time, it's people who are taking an obvious idiom literally.
Like, "I could care less" means the person doesn't care. Everybody knows that but people still want to complain forever about how it literally means that you do care.
Irony.4 -
Ironic double post. :laugh:6
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For many of us 1200 calories is NOT too low - there are plenty of us older, shorter women on these boards who lose weight at the rate of .5 lbs or less a week on 1200 calories, even those of us who are moderately active. And I really resent it when the poster goes on to boast "I'm 5'1" and I eat 2500 calories just to MAINTAIN!"
The flip side of this is what bugs me. "I'm in my 20s, 5'7", weigh 200 pounds, and I gain on 1400 calories."
People in general are extremely bad at knowing what their average caloric intake is, what their TDEE is, and what their average rate of loss is. It takes a long time to gather enough data to be able to make a decent estimate of any of that, and then you have to actually do the math for the estimate.
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nokanjaijo wrote: »jennifer_417 wrote: »None. It actually annoys me how wound up people get over particular phrases.
I agree. It's especially weird to me since it seems that most of the time, it's people who are taking an obvious idiom literally.
Like, "I could care less" means the person doesn't care. Everybody knows that but people still want to complain forever about how it literally means that you do care.
Language peevery can be an implicit class marker.5 -
I'm lower middle class but I am well-read. Poor grammar leads to confusion. There's enough covfefe in this world without adding to it.26
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x_stephisaur_x wrote: »I see your point. I meant more that 1lb of muscle takes up less space than 1lb of fat
Exactly - but I was also trying to illustrate that, just like you left out the "one pound" because it was implied, people who say that "muscle weighs more than fat" generally assume that the 'equivalent volume' is implied in that statement.Jdismybug1 wrote: »Ghostofachance wrote: »Forgot to mention people talking about their "cheat day."
You didn't cheat, you made a conscious decision to eat what you wanted in the quantities you wanted! Grrrr!
This... drives me crazy
Cheating is always a conscious choice. You don't accidentally cheat on tests either. It is more that cheating on anything has negative consequences, and when people don't want to own up to those and accept them, it can get annoying.
IMO it's inaccurate. Cheating implies that you got something you don't deserve (such as a higher grade on a test) because you didn't earn it fairly. The thing is, with "cheating" on your diet, you can't really do that. Whether you log that Krispy Kreme donut in your food diary or not, your body certainly logs those calories!4 -
I can't stand threads like this. I carefully choose my words with the intent to communicate what I am trying to say with clarity, compassion, and brevity. And yet, on forums and social media it seems nothing passes without criticism. It seems no statement is beyond sounding annoying, condescending, insulting, offending, ignorant or lazy for one reason or another.10
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For many of us 1200 calories is NOT too low - there are plenty of us older, shorter women on these boards who lose weight at the rate of .5 lbs or less a week on 1200 calories, even those of us who are moderately active. And I really resent it when the poster goes on to boast "I'm 5'1" and I eat 2500 calories just to MAINTAIN!"
The flip side of this is what bugs me. "I'm in my 20s, 5'7", weigh 200 pounds, and I gain on 1400 calories."
People in general are extremely bad at knowing what their average caloric intake is, what their TDEE is, and what their average rate of loss is. It takes a long time to gather enough data to be able to make a decent estimate of any of that, and then you have to actually do the math for the estimate.
Oh yes, this!!! People who claim to maintain/gain on a low amount of calories and complain about it when they probably eat much more than that...2 -
Carlos_421 wrote: »
If I say I pigged out, I'm probably bragging. Lolsunfastrose wrote: »I hate the term "pigging out" when referring to self. It's so self hating.LovesDogsAndBooks wrote: »LovesDogsAndBooks wrote: »English is not my first language, so I don't get what's wrong with talking about "muscle tone" or "being toned"? Just had a quick glance at Wikipedia, and the word seems related to muscle.
It is. Atonic literally means 'lacking muscular tone.' So tone is technically fine to say.
However, when someone says they want to 'tone up' I still always picture this:
Thanks! Maybe there are certain negative connotations that you only have as a native speaker. But there have been a couple of people here in this thread that are bothered by someone saying muscle tone or getting toned. Then they seem to be wrong, not the people who say that.
There is a misconception that a person's muscles may be soft and "un-toned" and that working out with light weights or cardio will "tone" those muscles, making them tighter and firmer (appearing smaller). However, that's not actually how things work so when people take issue with people wanting to "tone," it has more to do with this misconception than the word itself.
The truth is that muscle is denser and firmer than fat so if your arm feels soft and squishy, it's because you have fat in your arm. The way to "get toned" then is to either 1) lose the fat to reveal the muscle underneath or 2) build the muscle (making it bigger) so that it can be seen/felt in contrast to the fat.
However, people think that if they're not too overweight and they feel soft, it's not due to the presence of fat and their muscles are just soft/fluffy, which is not really the case.
I do not use the term pigging out but sometimes when I know I am mindlessly eating too much I tell myself that I am being a little piggy. Is it self hating, no, but it makes me laugh and sometimes it makes me stop eating whatever I am eating.0 -
There's another thread going right now where the discussion is about "full fat" coke. I know that's a regional colloquialism, maybe started as a joke. But it gives me a full-body shudder.
Oh dear, I use this one a lot. its pretty common usage round here (north of England).
Please someone tell me where 'thick' is seen as a compliment? I'm genuinely curious. Other than describing someone as 'thick round the middle' (and that was really not intended in a positive light), the more usual descriptive use I've heard is 'thick as pig excrement' (poshed up a bit there as pigkitten just doesnt sound right)
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bramble345 wrote: »There's another thread going right now where the discussion is about "full fat" coke. I know that's a regional colloquialism, maybe started as a joke. But it gives me a full-body shudder.
Oh dear, I use this one a lot. its pretty common usage round here (north of England).
Please someone tell me where 'thick' is seen as a compliment? I'm genuinely curious. Other than describing someone as 'thick round the middle' (and that was really not intended in a positive light), the more usual descriptive use I've heard is 'thick as pig excrement' (poshed up a bit there as pigkitten just doesnt sound right)
Male anatomy.8 -
HeliumIsNoble wrote: »bramble345 wrote: »There's another thread going right now where the discussion is about "full fat" coke. I know that's a regional colloquialism, maybe started as a joke. But it gives me a full-body shudder.
Oh dear, I use this one a lot. its pretty common usage round here (north of England).
Please someone tell me where 'thick' is seen as a compliment? I'm genuinely curious. Other than describing someone as 'thick round the middle' (and that was really not intended in a positive light), the more usual descriptive use I've heard is 'thick as pig excrement' (poshed up a bit there as pigkitten just doesnt sound right)
Male anatomy.
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bramble345 wrote: »There's another thread going right now where the discussion is about "full fat" coke. I know that's a regional colloquialism, maybe started as a joke. But it gives me a full-body shudder.
Oh dear, I use this one a lot. its pretty common usage round here (north of England).
Please someone tell me where 'thick' is seen as a compliment? I'm genuinely curious. Other than describing someone as 'thick round the middle' (and that was really not intended in a positive light), the more usual descriptive use I've heard is 'thick as pig excrement' (poshed up a bit there as pigkitten just doesnt sound right)
It's not so much a compliment as an observation... some guys like thick girls... meaning large, but well proportioned..
Generally it wouldn't be said directly to the woman, but by a guy to his guy friends as a reference to his attraction or appreciation of her figure.1
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