What terms/phrases wind you up about losing weight?
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SusanMFindlay wrote: »WendyLeigh1119 wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »Yeah, fat burning zone is a good one. I seriously had someone tell me that it was useless to run or do other cardio if your heart rate was too high, as you wouldn't burn fat.
It's similar to people thinking they must exercise fasted or it's not doing any good, which is another weird claim I've run into.
To be fair, at least they're only misunderstanding rather than spewing nonsense. Higher intensity cardio DOES burn less calories from fat specifically, but it still burns fat (and creates the afterburn continuing after exercise is completed, which the "fat burn zone" never will).
Technically, it still burns more calories of fat; it's just that a lower percentage of the calories burned come from fat. (Lower percentage of a bigger total can still be a bigger number.) So, it sucks that the media misrepresents it.
I blame Fitbit for keeping that alive. Their explanation of exercise zones completely reinforces the whole "don't do intense cardio unless you're training for endurance thing.1 -
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- this one is slightly irrational on my part, but I find it incredibly frustrating: it irritates me that as a 5'5, 139 lbs woman aged 41, I need to consistently walk about 11,000 steps a day to bring my calorie expenditure just to 2,000 or so calories. I am intensely jealous of taller, heavier and more muscular people who can eat more and not gain weight. Because I love eating. I also want to scream when older shorter women mention their total daily calorie expenditure is 1,500, just because of the sheer injustice of it
As a 5'3" woman, I agree with this on a spiritual level.
5'5" as well but at 130lbs I need to walk closer to 15,000 a day
and 4 days a week are spent at a desk which leaves me 5 hours at the end of the day to cram in eating and walking and anything else I might need to do around the house, as well as work I do from home (also at a desk). It's frustrating some days.
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WendyLeigh1119 wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »Yeah, fat burning zone is a good one. I seriously had someone tell me that it was useless to run or do other cardio if your heart rate was too high, as you wouldn't burn fat.
It's similar to people thinking they must exercise fasted or it's not doing any good, which is another weird claim I've run into.
To be fair, at least they're only misunderstanding rather than spewing nonsense. Higher intensity cardio DOES burn less calories from fat specifically, but it still burns fat (and creates the afterburn continuing after exercise is completed, which the "fat burn zone" never will).
They are spewing nonsense because they are misunderstanding. People are way too focused on whether they are specifically burning fat at any one moment and ignoring that if you have a deficit you need to make it up by burning fat at some point and that running hard also adds to burn and deficit. The idea that if you don't burn fat while doing the activity (and as noted above that's not actually true) it cannot be helpful for weight loss purposes is nonsense (and for the purposes of this thread, annoying!). ;-)0 -
if humans weren't meant to drink milk, why do new mothers lactate??6
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WendyLeigh1119 wrote: »SusanMFindlay wrote: »WendyLeigh1119 wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »Yeah, fat burning zone is a good one. I seriously had someone tell me that it was useless to run or do other cardio if your heart rate was too high, as you wouldn't burn fat.
It's similar to people thinking they must exercise fasted or it's not doing any good, which is another weird claim I've run into.
To be fair, at least they're only misunderstanding rather than spewing nonsense. Higher intensity cardio DOES burn less calories from fat specifically, but it still burns fat (and creates the afterburn continuing after exercise is completed, which the "fat burn zone" never will).
Technically, it still burns more calories of fat; it's just that a lower percentage of the calories burned come from fat. (Lower percentage of a bigger total can still be a bigger number.) So, it sucks that the media misrepresents it.
I blame Fitbit for keeping that alive. Their explanation of exercise zones completely reinforces the whole "don't do intense cardio unless you're training for endurance thing.
I agree with this. In my head I translate "fat burning zone" to "steady state zone" when I'm cycling.0 -
I'm kinda sick of hearing "help me with my macros." And I follow IIFYM. Gah! Go educate yourself people, or just stick to your freaking caloric deficit.
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Not a word/phrase, but I get very annoyed when someone asks for help or asks a question and then ignores every piece of sound advice or answer in favor of the 1 or 2 posts in a thread of 50 that just back up their pre-conceived ideas.22
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Not a word/phrase, but I get very annoyed when someone asks for help or asks a question and then ignores every piece of sound advice or answer in favor of the 1 or 2 posts in a thread of 50 that just back up their pre-conceived ideas.
I think much of this is ego. Many people simply cannot take responsibility for their actions and this is one of greatest reasons for repeated failures. CICO and calorie counting require a level of personal responsibility. Western society does not uphold this as a value anymore.
...also why you tend to get an emotional reaction from these people. You don't get emotional over false statements. The truth on the other hand...6 -
WendyLeigh1119 wrote: »SusanMFindlay wrote: »WendyLeigh1119 wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »Yeah, fat burning zone is a good one. I seriously had someone tell me that it was useless to run or do other cardio if your heart rate was too high, as you wouldn't burn fat.
It's similar to people thinking they must exercise fasted or it's not doing any good, which is another weird claim I've run into.
To be fair, at least they're only misunderstanding rather than spewing nonsense. Higher intensity cardio DOES burn less calories from fat specifically, but it still burns fat (and creates the afterburn continuing after exercise is completed, which the "fat burn zone" never will).
Technically, it still burns more calories of fat; it's just that a lower percentage of the calories burned come from fat. (Lower percentage of a bigger total can still be a bigger number.) So, it sucks that the media misrepresents it.
I blame Fitbit for keeping that alive. Their explanation of exercise zones completely reinforces the whole "don't do intense cardio unless you're training for endurance thing.
I agree with this. In my head I translate "fat burning zone" to "steady state zone" when I'm cycling.
That works! I call it the "not sitting on my butt" zone. I try to be in it several hours a day so that I'm getting a good amount of NEAT. So, I like that Fitbit shows me my time in each zone for the day, but not for the reason they think.
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This isn't a phrase so much but there are a lot of posts here where people say they have a hard time eating X calories. And inevitably someone says "if you find it so hard to eat more, how'd you end up with a weight problem". And I get what their point is - sounds silly that someone trying to lose weight suddenly my can't eat enough. But honestly it's so oversimplifying complex topics that relate to weight gain like the things that trigger people or the psychological aspects to weight loss. When people eat "healthier" and avoid their trigger foods , they may be surprised to find they eat WAY less calories then binging on McDonald's and chips and chocolate. And they may not be at a point mentally to be able to handle those foods in responsible portions.10
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SusanMFindlay wrote: »WendyLeigh1119 wrote: »SusanMFindlay wrote: »WendyLeigh1119 wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »Yeah, fat burning zone is a good one. I seriously had someone tell me that it was useless to run or do other cardio if your heart rate was too high, as you wouldn't burn fat.
It's similar to people thinking they must exercise fasted or it's not doing any good, which is another weird claim I've run into.
To be fair, at least they're only misunderstanding rather than spewing nonsense. Higher intensity cardio DOES burn less calories from fat specifically, but it still burns fat (and creates the afterburn continuing after exercise is completed, which the "fat burn zone" never will).
Technically, it still burns more calories of fat; it's just that a lower percentage of the calories burned come from fat. (Lower percentage of a bigger total can still be a bigger number.) So, it sucks that the media misrepresents it.
I blame Fitbit for keeping that alive. Their explanation of exercise zones completely reinforces the whole "don't do intense cardio unless you're training for endurance thing.
I agree with this. In my head I translate "fat burning zone" to "steady state zone" when I'm cycling.
That works! I call it the "not sitting on my butt" zone. I try to be in it several hours a day so that I'm getting a good amount of NEAT. So, I like that Fitbit shows me my time in each zone for the day, but not for the reason they think.
Sitting on your butt would actually put you further into the "fat burning zone"2 -
The phrase I hate the most is one I say myself, " Kitten! I don't have room in my calories for any wine."11
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The humble-brag. "Help! I have disgusting stomach fat and need tips on how to get rid of it!". Accompanied by 6 pictures of a very fit person with no visible body fat.33
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'burn' bothers me a little. as in 'great burn!' but then i'm just generally not a type who enjoys too much of the rah-rah stuff in the first place.
and i have to look away when i see what's being done to the word 'squats' all over certain parts of the broternet.1 -
I've seen most of these on this thread, but will repeat for my own edification.
- I need to "loose" weight. Grrrrrr.
- Muscle weighs more than fat. Makes me screech loudly and it scares the dogs.
- Starvation mode. Nope.
- Anything related to FA or HAES. Seriously, get real.
- Women sharing about being on their periods as an excuse for any *kitten*. Haven't you seen those tampax commercials where you can scuba dive or mountain climb or salsa dance? I'm a woman and that's not something I would share with most people in my life, let alone the internet community.
- I have calories left at the end of the day. What should I do?
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"It's easy for you."9
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Not a word/phrase, but I get very annoyed when someone asks for help or asks a question and then ignores every piece of sound advice or answer in favor of the 1 or 2 posts in a thread of 50 that just back up their pre-conceived ideas.
Or the OP never comes back at all and people keep on posting advice for who? or is that whom?
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Not a term/phrase but I get really sad seeing people bust their *kitten* in the gym, working so hard, then they go to the shops and get a "reward" for all their hard work that is 6x their calorie burn.
(Very aware you can fit in treats in calorie counting, but you can pick the ones that really don't realise that they would have been better off staying at home instead of "rewarding" themselves)0 -
"Transformation"
"Journey"
Not weight related, but it happens here more often than anywhere else I go: Mothers who refer to themselves as "mommies" or other baby talk names when talking to other adults.
But, to each their own. It's convenient when the words are in the subject line, because then I can just skip those threads.
OMG this is something that really really bugs me, not just on here but IRL. Same as when people refer to their kids as "Little Miss 3" or "Master 5" or who describe their children as being like "36 months" old1 -
The humble-brag. "Help! I have disgusting stomach fat and need tips on how to get rid of it!". Accompanied by 6 pictures of a very fit person with no visible body fat.
^^ This!! This annoys the *kitten* outta me cos you just know that the poster KNOWS everyone is gonna be all like "Oh, you're so perfect, I wish I was like you" and they get the attention they want!! And the "I need to lose 100lb but I can't eat more than 800cals a day, I'm just soooo full, is this ok?" How in the name of *kitten* did you get to a point where you need to lose 100lb if you can only manage 800cals a day??Not a term/phrase but I get really sad seeing people bust their *kitten* in the gym, working so hard, then they go to the shops and get a "reward" for all their hard work that is 6x their calorie burn.
(Very aware you can fit in treats in calorie counting, but you can pick the ones that really don't realise that they would have been better off staying at home instead of "rewarding" themselves)
^^ I use to work in a gym and the amount of people that would do a half an hour in the gym (every day) then come to reception and get the big calorie bomb coffees with a muffin and a chocolate bar and sit with their friends saying they "deserved it" after their work out and a month later would tear the gym staff a new one cos they weren't losing weight and obviously the trainers weren't doing their jobs right and were showing them the "wrong work outs". never mind that a 400 calorie coffee, a 300 calorie muffin and a 300 calorie chocolate bar does not equal a 100 calorie walk on the treadmill!!
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