Respect in the gym
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OP, you find the exchanges on this thread to be aggressive? Really???
I do circuits all the time. Did one yesterday, in fact. Difference is I used one piece of equipment in one area. If someone wanted that particular trx strap they were SOL, but the rest of the gym was available to use without them having to ask me for permission first.
It sounds like she was saying that the other guy wanted to kick her out of the rack, not willing to work sets in with her, and he wasn't even using it for the barbell, he just wanted to do some trx exercise that he could have done elsewhere. Maybe I misunderstood?
when i was coming up in the gym, people would agree to work in all the time. over the last 10 years people seem to hate working in. not sure what changed. maybe all the "ewwww germs" stuff or just that people are more isolated these days. but either way, it's their decision is they want someone to work in. while i have no problem with it, i also do my sets with a timer, and with 1 minute or less rest between sets having someone work in that has to change weights and such would kill my times.
not sure about what he was doing and if he could have done it somewhere else, but my personal belief is one person, one piece of equipment. if he wanted to do push ups inside the rack i wouldn't say anything, as long as he's only taking up that one spot.0 -
Agree.OP, this was a you problem, not a females in the gym problem. You don't get to tie up half the gyms equipment while you complete your routine. If the gym is relatively empty, you may be able to pull it off. But that is luck, not something you're entitled to
Truth.
I don't really get how you can say you "offered" to let him get some sets in while you were doing circuits. The power rack doesn't belong to you. If you're going to use it and then leave for 15 minutes, you're done with it, as far as I'm concerned. That's as nonsensical as setting up the bar and telling everyone who is waiting to use it "Hey, I'm going to run next door and grab a coffee. There better not be anyone in this rack when I get back." Unless your name is on the outside of the building or something, who the hell are you?
Meant to agree to this.
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OP, this was a you problem, not a females in the gym problem. You don't get to tie up half the gyms equipment while you complete your routine. If the gym is relatively empty, you may be able to pull it off. But that is luck, not something you're entitled to
Truth.
I don't really get how you can say you "offered" to let him get some sets in while you were doing circuits. The power rack doesn't belong to you. If you're going to use it and then leave for 15 minutes, you're done with it, as far as I'm concerned. That's as nonsensical as setting up the bar and telling everyone who is waiting to use it "Hey, I'm going to run next door and grab a coffee. There better not be anyone in this rack when I get back." Unless your name is on the outside of the building or something, who the hell are you?
Meant to agree to this.0 -
OP, you find the exchanges on this thread to be aggressive? Really???
I do circuits all the time. Did one yesterday, in fact. Difference is I used one piece of equipment in one area. If someone wanted that particular trx strap they were SOL, but the rest of the gym was available to use without them having to ask me for permission first.
It sounds like she was saying that the other guy wanted to kick her out of the rack, not willing to work sets in with her, and he wasn't even using it for the barbell, he just wanted to do some trx exercise that he could have done elsewhere. Maybe I misunderstood?
when i was coming up in the gym, people would agree to work in all the time. over the last 10 years people seem to hate working in. not sure what changed. maybe all the "ewwww germs" stuff or just that people are more isolated these days. but either way, it's their decision is they want someone to work in. while i have no problem with it, i also do my sets with a timer, and with 1 minute or less rest between sets having someone work in that has to change weights and such would kill my times.
not sure about what he was doing and if he could have done it somewhere else, but my personal belief is one person, one piece of equipment. if he wanted to do push ups inside the rack i wouldn't say anything, as long as he's only taking up that one spot.
Thanks for explaining. That's reasonable.0 -
re-read the OP regarding the use of bands. OP wasn't specific, but I'm guessing he was doing some power work where he attaches resistance bands to the bar or to his body for extra resistance at specific places in the lift. And if he's setting that up, he's not going to break it down between sets for someone else to work in. totally legit, imo.
Re: men saying stuff to women that they wouldn't say to men: I've had men tell me that I couldn't use a piece of equipment until they were finished and I've told other guys that they didn't get to use 3 stations at the same time, whether they were trying some giant set or super set or doing a circuit. i'll always try to accommodate but at a certain point my time is just as valuable as theirs. it's not a guy vs girl thing at all.
if anything, i'd bet the OP isn't used to proper gym etiquette because as a cute young girl she'll get a free pass in a spot where a guy would get cussed out.0 -
I have never felt anything but as much respect as every other weight training regular, male or female, in my gym.0
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re-read the OP regarding the use of bands. OP wasn't specific, but I'm guessing he was doing some power work where he attaches resistance bands to the bar or to his body for extra resistance at specific places in the lift. And if he's setting that up, he's not going to break it down between sets for someone else to work in. totally legit, imo.
I was thinking that also, when I thought more about it.
But, what about him setting up and then just wandering around on his phone. Just sounds like there was a lot of goofing around going on.0 -
I understand what you are doing with your workout, but it really is inconsiderate to expect that you can tie up or reserve an important piece of equipment for 15 minutes while you are doing other things. That wouldn't go over well at my gym either. Most people have a pretty set routine and do things in order (probably like you do), but most people prefer to do their warmup sets and their workout sets with just short rest breaks while staying on the same machine/ station.
He probably knew he was going to take longer than your 15 minute circuit time which is probably why he didn't want to work in with you. You'd probably be tapping your feet at him while he was still on his work sets. By the way, the heavier a person lifts, the longer they tend to rest between sets.0 -
i dont know the whole situation - but in my gym there are like 12 benches and only 3 squat racks - one of which is a power rack.
so if somebody was doing a deadlift squat circuit and I wanted to squat and there was no rack available I would probably go ballistic (note this has nothing to do with your post directly I dont know your gym setup - I can totally see where you are coming from as well)0 -
If you want to circuit train, go to "Curves".:grumble:0
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re-read the OP regarding the use of bands. OP wasn't specific, but I'm guessing he was doing some power work where he attaches resistance bands to the bar or to his body for extra resistance at specific places in the lift. And if he's setting that up, he's not going to break it down between sets for someone else to work in. totally legit, imo.
I was thinking that also, when I thought more about it.
But, what about him setting up and then just wandering around on his phone. Just sounds like there was a lot of goofing around going on.
It's common to wait up to 5 mins between max lifts. Or he may have gotten an important call from work or family. Or ordering takeout. Wasn't there so I can't say. Overly long rest may irk me if I'm waiting but I'll still wait. If I got there first the other guy would have to wait. Girls too.0 -
Sorry but I have to agree with most of everyone else. Its very unrealistic to think that you can monopolize different areas of a gym for 45 mins to complete your circuit. If I saw someone leave a station for 10 mins I would surmise that they were done with the rack and just didn't re-rack their weights. I would do it for them and then start my workout. If you came back and pleaded your case I would not be closed to letting you work in especially if you were cute :smokin: haha just wanted to lighten the thread up a bit0
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so the rest of us should adhere to your routine because you want to take up 15 stations at once? ummmmm thats not going to happen...the rest of us might be in a rush to our might want to get in our workouts too...0
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There were only 3 people there otherwise I would have taken my weights off the power rack and asked to set in if someone was on it. I have found that it is hard sometimes to get guys to let me get a set in. Come on guys. It takes me less than 5 minutes to get a set in. Lets share please. And to me, setting up bands and monopolizing a machine for 30 minutes is way more inconsiderate than doing circuits and letting people set in if they need to.0
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there is one guy in my gym who is always doing like 2o different exercises..I dont know if he is doing circuits or just has a bad case of Farounditus...but once he was waiting on a station I was in so I hurried up to accommodate him and moved to next work out..he does one freaking set and moves on to something else..I was like really bro? You could not do something else while you stood behind me like a wounded puppy...
OP sounds like this guy IMO0 -
re-read the OP regarding the use of bands. OP wasn't specific, but I'm guessing he was doing some power work where he attaches resistance bands to the bar or to his body for extra resistance at specific places in the lift. And if he's setting that up, he's not going to break it down between sets for someone else to work in. totally legit, imo.
I was thinking that also, when I thought more about it.
But, what about him setting up and then just wandering around on his phone. Just sounds like there was a lot of goofing around going on.
It's common to wait up to 5 mins between max lifts. Or he may have gotten an important call from work or family. Or ordering takeout. Wasn't there so I can't say. Overly long rest may irk me if I'm waiting but I'll still wait. If I got there first the other guy would have to wait. Girls too.
Or he had done a set and the OP didn't notice and he did a short walk away or around the rack to walk off the burn or/and do some short dynamic stretching in between.0 -
Or he had done a set and the OP didn't notice and he did a short walk away or around the rack to walk off the burn or/and do some short dynamic stretching in between.
walk off the burn?
really? unless i have to pee or get more water- I don't walk so far away from my stuff that someone thinks I'm done.
hell I tend to super set squats with mountain climbers or pull up/burpee combos. If I'm squatting heavy- I STRETCH. I don't leave my things unattended.0 -
Or he had done a set and the OP didn't notice and he did a short walk away or around the rack to walk off the burn or/and do some short dynamic stretching in between.
walk off the burn?
really? unless i have to pee or get more water- I don't walk so far away from my stuff that someone thinks I'm done.
hell I tend to super set squats with mountain climbers or pull up/burpee combos. If I'm squatting heavy- I STRETCH. I don't leave my things unattended.
Did you notice I said short walk or around the rack? For all we know he went 5 feet from the rack for 2-3 minutes.0 -
If you are not currently using a machine or rack, then it should be available for others to use...period.
Yep! I try to get all my sets done on each machine before moving on, but there are a few I need to come back to right now because my strength just seems lacking in those areas. I know when I get off the machine that I'm giving up my time on it and hope it's free when I'm done with other machines and ready for the next set on the machine I gave up.
I wouldn't have been thrilled with him taking tons of time either, though if he knew you were done with your sets he may not have felt pressured to get the work done. I take much more time when the gym isn't crowded.0 -
Agree to disagree, friends. I will be more conscious about not specifically reserving a machine. But I still think asking to alternate sets is fair. You may all continue to post but I don't like the negativity so I am out. have a good night.
Negativity? Huh?
Generally, when I make a post and realize I was wrong/missed something, I admit it before leaving the thread...
...it just seems like a better response than flouncing like you did.
Two and a half more pages even after you left? Sweet. Guess I'm...
....in...
....to see where this went.0 -
If you walk off, you are chit out of luck in my book, but I always glad to work out with others.
PS- I hate when people do not rerack weights0 -
OP: "Also I can bet you he would have never done that to a guy. Ever. "
What proof do you have of that? I'm sure he would still be just as annoyed with your behavior if you were a guy. No need to play the "gender" card here.0 -
Ah the gender card, my favourite!
Personally I never had problems doing little circuits in my gym, if someone else needed the machine I was using, I'd simply move onto something else until they were done. And if they were spending 10 minutes on their phone, I'd politely ask if I can jump in for a few reps while they...rested or whatever?0 -
Agree to disagree, friends. I will be more conscious about not specifically reserving a machine. But I still think asking to alternate sets is fair. You may all continue to post but I don't like the negativity so I am out. have a good night.
People see different things in different ways. I'm sure you and the guy at the gym both saw the situation differently and meant no harm...it happens.
As someone who does circuits, you may no be able to objectively see how other people perceive it. I find it extremely annoying when people reserve a piece of equipment while they're off doing something else. When you decide to do circuit training or supersets you KNOW you're taking a gamble that you may not be able to get back and forth to every area you want. Because you KNOW you aren't the only one there. I usually do a bit of back and forth to let my muscles recover a little longer without wasting time, but I for sure do all my work at the power rack at once, take my stuff, and move on.
The answer is to either not do a circuit or take your chances. You don't get to claim the entire gym as your own and then lend parts at as you see fit.
If I makes you feel any better, that guy sounds like he was being douchey, as well. But that could've been strictly brought about by annoyance with your behavior.0 -
At least he asked if you were done. If I watched you take off and start something else somewhere else in the gym, I'm going to assume that you were done, and just really inconsiderate to not re-rack your plates, and I'm going to set up and start my sets.
Now, if I watch someone do one set, leave the bar loaded and start something else, I may watch for a minute, but if you do one set on the other thing then and not come back to the rack and instead go start something else...well, then I don't really have the time or patience to wait for you to do whatever it is you are doing. I'm still not going to ask, because at this point I don't care what your "routine" is, I'm going to do my sets and you can wait...because I'm not moving until I'm done.0 -
Gym Etiquette Question:
Is it rude to do a circuit of two exercises / 5 sets in which the first exercise is something commonly in demand during peak hours, like a smith machine or cable pulley, and the second exercise is something quick using body weight or dumbbells (not in demand) a few feet away? Anyone can work in on the machine any time and there are no rests / delays between exercises. The full five sets take about 8 minutes.0 -
Gym Etiquette Question:
Is it rude to do a circuit of two exercises / 5 sets in which the first exercise is something commonly in demand during peak hours, like a smith machine or cable pulley, and the second exercise is something quick using body weight or dumbbells (not in demand) a few feet away? Anyone can work in on the machine any time and there are no rests / delays between exercises. The full five sets take about 8 minutes.
I would have no issues with this. And if someone wanted to, would let them set in while using the dumbbells.0 -
If you walk away from the machine it is no longer yours. period.0
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Gym Etiquette Question:
Is it rude to do a circuit of two exercises / 5 sets in which the first exercise is something commonly in demand during peak hours, like a smith machine or cable pulley, and the second exercise is something quick using body weight or dumbbells (not in demand) a few feet away? Anyone can work in on the machine any time and there are no rests / delays between exercises. The full five sets take about 8 minutes.
if you're standing right there and you're only going to be occupying the equipment for a total of less than 10 mins this isn't a problem at all. it's actually less time than a typical meathead like myself would be at that station0 -
Another etiquette question: the gym has only one squat rack- what about doing two or three different types of squats with rests in between three sets each? I recently waited almost thirty minutes - and it's hard to "work in " when you are easily fifteen inches shorter!0
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