Judge and jury...first impressions

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  • caco_ethes
    caco_ethes Posts: 11,962 Member
    I thought my MFP bff was a dick when we first started talking but I was very wrong. @ManBehindTheMask

    Awww Thankyou! I'm used to it, everyone thinks it until they know me :D

    You seem like a real dick.
  • Shenzi03
    Shenzi03 Posts: 88 Member
    It's definitely not a perfect system by any means. But in all honestly, it's more fair than just picking 8-14 people randomly and placing them in a jury box. Most minorities would be screwed if that were the case since the majority of our pools consist of older, white men. (Not being insulting, just stating an observation). You'd be surprised how many people admit to being biased/racist/sexist/etc... And I'm sure a lot of them are just saying that to get out of jury selection. But you can tell a lot about a person just by their subconscious physical reaction to a pointed question. Those are the people you don't want in a trial, on either side, as they can weaken the entire foundation in which our justice system is built. I had a jury last month acquit a man for shoplifting, not because he was innocent, but because of what he stole (shampoo and toothpaste). It's called nullification. The jury, in theory, nullified the criminal act and found him not guilt since he was stealing those items out of sheer necessity. It doesn't make shoplifting right; it just prevents the poor and desperate from being punished more severely than the law allows.

    Shenzi03 wrote: »
    I get paid to judge people based on first impressions. I'm a criminal defense paralegal and participate in jury selections quite often. It is my job to analyze and judge the pool of people we're given at each trial to determine if they'll be beneficial or detrimental to our case based on how they answer our and the prosecutor's carefully worded questions. As someone who grew up people watching, I love what I do!!!

    I've never agreed with jury selection. I always figured it should be a random group of "peers" and as long as there's no conflict of interest, you should get what you get. Feels like cheating saying "this guy/gal will probably find the defendant X. Cut!"

    ETA- very appropriate, bringing it back to judge and jury by the way. I like the cut of your gib.

  • KANGOOJUMPS
    KANGOOJUMPS Posts: 6,474 Member
    of course. first impressions all the way. I am always right too. not once been wrong.
  • ManBehindTheMask
    ManBehindTheMask Posts: 615 Member
    caco_ethes wrote: »
    I thought my MFP bff was a dick when we first started talking but I was very wrong. @ManBehindTheMask

    Awww Thankyou! I'm used to it, everyone thinks it until they know me :D

    You seem like a real dick.

    I am :)
  • ManBehindTheMask
    ManBehindTheMask Posts: 615 Member
    I thought my MFP bff was a dick when we first started talking but I was very wrong. @ManBehindTheMask

    Awww Thankyou! I'm used to it, everyone thinks it until they know me :D

    It's only because you're so pretty

    B) my book just has a pretty cover
  • VeronicaA76
    VeronicaA76 Posts: 1,116 Member
    pudgy1977 wrote: »
    I work in a bar, and I will totally judge you on your drink order

    My go-to drink is an Old Fashioned. I want your honest response (I'm also 41 and usually just in normal fitted jeans and a blouse).
  • pudgy1977
    pudgy1977 Posts: 13,499 Member
    pudgy1977 wrote: »
    I work in a bar, and I will totally judge you on your drink order

    My go-to drink is an Old Fashioned. I want your honest response (I'm also 41 and usually just in normal fitted jeans and a blouse).

    Oh no. Don't hate me. We are a very busy bar, and old fashioneds take time. So I would mumble to myself under my breath a little bit. It is kind of like when someone orders a Bloody Mary at happy hour. Makes bartenders cringe. THAT being said, there wouldn't be a judgement poorly of you for drinking that...very sophisticated choice. I would also hope that ordering a drink as such, you have been around and understand tipping custom. So I would make you a kick *kitten* drink, and hope you only want one before moving on. LOL
  • VeronicaA76
    VeronicaA76 Posts: 1,116 Member
    edited August 2017
    pudgy1977 wrote: »
    pudgy1977 wrote: »
    I work in a bar, and I will totally judge you on your drink order

    My go-to drink is an Old Fashioned. I want your honest response (I'm also 41 and usually just in normal fitted jeans and a blouse).

    Oh no. Don't hate me. We are a very busy bar, and old fashioneds take time. So I would mumble to myself under my breath a little bit. It is kind of like when someone orders a Bloody Mary at happy hour. Makes bartenders cringe. THAT being said, there wouldn't be a judgement poorly of you for drinking that...very sophisticated choice. I would also hope that ordering a drink as such, you have been around and understand tipping custom. So I would make you a kick *kitten* drink, and hope you only want one before moving on. LOL

    My tipping custom: always. At least $5 (I know what I order is a bit more complicated). Better service increases that number, sometimes substantially - had one of the best OF's last year, drink was $8, I left a $20. I've also worked in the service industry, so if it's busy I always say "take your time, I'm not in a hurry. I don't order drinks to chug them", it usually garners a smile with the realization that I'm not an impatient *kitten*.

    Also, if I'm going to order a second one. I don't wait for mine to be gone. And again, say "no hurry". I do babysit my drinks as I drink for quality and taste, not quantity.
  • pudgy1977
    pudgy1977 Posts: 13,499 Member
    pudgy1977 wrote: »
    pudgy1977 wrote: »
    I work in a bar, and I will totally judge you on your drink order

    My go-to drink is an Old Fashioned. I want your honest response (I'm also 41 and usually just in normal fitted jeans and a blouse).

    Oh no. Don't hate me. We are a very busy bar, and old fashioneds take time. So I would mumble to myself under my breath a little bit. It is kind of like when someone orders a Bloody Mary at happy hour. Makes bartenders cringe. THAT being said, there wouldn't be a judgement poorly of you for drinking that...very sophisticated choice. I would also hope that ordering a drink as such, you have been around and understand tipping custom. So I would make you a kick *kitten* drink, and hope you only want one before moving on. LOL

    My tipping custom: always. At least $5 (I know what I order is a bit more complicated). Better service increases that number, sometimes substantially - had one of the best OF's last year, drink was $8, I left a $20. I've also worked in the service industry, so if it's busy I always say "take your time, I'm not in a hurry. I don't order drinks to chug them", it usually garners a smile with the realization that I'm not an impatient *kitten*.

    Also, if I'm going to order a second one. I don't wait for mine to be gone. And again, say "no hurry". I do babysit my drinks as I drink for quality and taste, not quantity.

    You will also be receiving a GC to my bar
  • meganpettigrew86
    meganpettigrew86 Posts: 349 Member
    jtegirl1 wrote: »
    pudgy1977 wrote: »
    J_Surita3 wrote: »
    pudgy1977 wrote: »
    I work in a bar, and I will totally judge you on your drink order

    lol. I judge people who drink Moscato. :laugh:

    I can often guess the kind of tip I will get from someone by what they order and how they order it.

    I used to work in a bar, so I always tip really well no matter what I order. Even if it's a water.

    I'm so glad people in new zealand are not expected to tip. It is actually weird for someone to tip. When I went to the states I found the tipping confusing and expensive, puts you off going anywhere that has service as the true cost is a lot more than what is displayed as you have to tip no matter the service.
  • Motorsheen
    Motorsheen Posts: 20,508 Member
    jtegirl1 wrote: »
    pudgy1977 wrote: »
    J_Surita3 wrote: »
    pudgy1977 wrote: »
    I work in a bar, and I will totally judge you on your drink order

    lol. I judge people who drink Moscato. :laugh:

    I can often guess the kind of tip I will get from someone by what they order and how they order it.

    I used to work in a bar, so I always tip really well no matter what I order. Even if it's a water.

    I'm so glad people in new zealand are not expected to tip. It is actually weird for someone to tip. When I went to the states I found the tipping confusing and expensive, puts you off going anywhere that has service as the true cost is a lot more than what is displayed as you have to tip no matter the service.

    you need to add 20% more syllables to this post.
  • caco_ethes
    caco_ethes Posts: 11,962 Member
    edited August 2017
    jtegirl1 wrote: »
    pudgy1977 wrote: »
    J_Surita3 wrote: »
    pudgy1977 wrote: »
    I work in a bar, and I will totally judge you on your drink order

    lol. I judge people who drink Moscato. :laugh:

    I can often guess the kind of tip I will get from someone by what they order and how they order it.

    I used to work in a bar, so I always tip really well no matter what I order. Even if it's a water.

    I'm so glad people in new zealand are not expected to tiptoe. It is actually weird for someone to tiptoe. When I went to the states I found the tiptoeing confusing and expensive, puts you off going anywhere that has service as the true cost is a lot more than what is displayed as you have to tiptoe no matter the service.

    Ftfy
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  • kimothy38
    kimothy38 Posts: 840 Member
    I love sitting in a café and watching people - wondering what sort of person they are by the what they wear and how they interact, what their life is like etc. I'm often told that I come across hard and unfriendly when in fact I'm the opposite. When I first met my personal trainer I thought he was friendly, knowledgeable and supportive - what he often gets told is that people think he's an a-hole because he's a bodybuilder and has tattoos which people find intimidating (whereas I thought those attributes were a bonus).

    I know we shouldn't judge but we do.
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  • SEAHORSES4EVER
    SEAHORSES4EVER Posts: 1,553 Member
    jtegirl1 wrote: »
    pudgy1977 wrote: »
    J_Surita3 wrote: »
    pudgy1977 wrote: »
    I work in a bar, and I will totally judge you on your drink order

    lol. I judge people who drink Moscato. :laugh:

    I can often guess the kind of tip I will get from someone by what they order and how they order it.

    I used to work in a bar, so I always tip really well no matter what I order. Even if it's a water.

    I'm so glad people in new zealand are not expected to tip. It is actually weird for someone to tip. When I went to the states I found the tipping confusing and expensive, puts you off going anywhere that has service as the true cost is a lot more than what is displayed as you have to tip no matter the service.

    What really shocked me was all the bathroom attendants in Germany you're supposed to tip. Even the grocery store restroom had bathroom attendants

    I'd hate that. I don't like people hearing me use the restroom.




    I'd have tipped them if they promised to leave.

    It was the epitome of awkward situations for me. The one woman was eating her lunch in the bathroom. So like, do I still tip? Is she on her lunch break?

    ETA: Also wtf is a euro and is that a good tip idk

    It's not a lot but how much should you really tip someone to listen to you pee? There are no guidelines for this.
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  • JLAJ81
    JLAJ81 Posts: 2,477 Member
    jtegirl1 wrote: »
    pudgy1977 wrote: »
    J_Surita3 wrote: »
    pudgy1977 wrote: »
    I work in a bar, and I will totally judge you on your drink order

    lol. I judge people who drink Moscato. :laugh:

    I can often guess the kind of tip I will get from someone by what they order and how they order it.

    I used to work in a bar, so I always tip really well no matter what I order. Even if it's a water.

    I'm so glad people in new zealand are not expected to tip. It is actually weird for someone to tip. When I went to the states I found the tipping confusing and expensive, puts you off going anywhere that has service as the true cost is a lot more than what is displayed as you have to tip no matter the service.

    What really shocked me was all the bathroom attendants in Germany you're supposed to tip. Even the grocery store restroom had bathroom attendants

    I'd hate that. I don't like people hearing me use the restroom.




    I'd have tipped them if they promised to leave.

    It was the epitome of awkward situations for me. The one woman was eating her lunch in the bathroom. So like, do I still tip? Is she on her lunch break?

    ETA: Also wtf is a euro and is that a good tip idk

    It's not a lot but how much should you really tip someone to listen to you pee? There are no guidelines for this.

    I usually pay top dollar to listen...oh you meant...never mind
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  • WorkerDrone83
    WorkerDrone83 Posts: 3,195 Member
    The other night my wife asked me if, when we first met, she had better hair, a better job, a cooler personality, etc. but weighed 300lbs if I'd still hit that. I told her that her looks is why I dated her, but her personality is why I married her.
  • km8907
    km8907 Posts: 3,861 Member
    The other night my wife asked me if, when we first met, she had better hair, a better job, a cooler personality, etc. but weighed 300lbs if I'd still hit that. I told her that her looks is why I dated her, but her personality is why I married her.

    So that's a no?
  • WorkerDrone83
    WorkerDrone83 Posts: 3,195 Member
    edited August 2017
    km8907 wrote: »
    The other night my wife asked me if, when we first met, she had better hair, a better job, a cooler personality, etc. but weighed 300lbs if I'd still hit that. I told her that her looks is why I dated her, but her personality is why I married her.

    So that's a no?

    My answer didn't seem to appease her, either.

    ETA- fortunately, she doesn't have a leg to stand on when it comes to being shallow in the dating game.
  • km8907
    km8907 Posts: 3,861 Member
    km8907 wrote: »
    The other night my wife asked me if, when we first met, she had better hair, a better job, a cooler personality, etc. but weighed 300lbs if I'd still hit that. I told her that her looks is why I dated her, but her personality is why I married her.

    So that's a no?

    My answer didn't seem to appease her, either.

    ETA- fortunately, she doesn't have a leg to stand on when it comes to being shallow in the dating game.

    Well, she asked if you'd hit that if she was 300 pounds, not would you marry her if she was 300 pounds. You basically answered her question as hell no.
  • WorkerDrone83
    WorkerDrone83 Posts: 3,195 Member
    edited August 2017
    km8907 wrote: »
    km8907 wrote: »
    The other night my wife asked me if, when we first met, she had better hair, a better job, a cooler personality, etc. but weighed 300lbs if I'd still hit that. I told her that her looks is why I dated her, but her personality is why I married her.

    So that's a no?

    My answer didn't seem to appease her, either.

    ETA- fortunately, she doesn't have a leg to stand on when it comes to being shallow in the dating game.

    Well, she asked if you'd hit that if she was 300 pounds, not would you marry her if she was 300 pounds. You basically answered her question as hell no.

    Yeah, basically. I think I used a bit more tact.
    Let's be honest, one's appearance is like their resume that scores them an interview. Of course you can take a chance and get to know them and really hit it off, and then what? You found a really good friend that you're still not attracted to to whom you're still not attracted. (Ended my sentence in a preposition. Sorry!)
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