Of refeeds and diet breaks
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Oh and yes, refeed pre-emptively, I say.0
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Telling tales on ZoneFive, the grey tuxedo kitty for whom I am named.
She was a rescue, and had been on her own for a few months when we adopted her. She had clearly been a house cat at one point, but had been cadging sandwiches outside my office building. She's been with us for almost 10 years, but hasn't forgotten her past as Fierce Huntress.
A couple of winters ago, while we were sitting in the kitchen having our morning coffee, she came up from the basement with a mouse in her mouth. Brought it proudly to me. Normally it would be a very dead mouse, but this time it was still live and kicking. So much so that when she opened her mouth and announced (loudly) that she had brought us an offering, the mouse took off. And then it was utter pandemonium. Molly Bloom and Milo Bloom, our dogs at the time, immediately began barking like lunatics, sniffing frantically where the mouse had dropped. Fivey started looking everywhere for the mouse -- my prey, where is my prey? My husband jumped up and grabbed the big leather grilling gauntlets and a giant wad of paper towel to catch the creature.
Meanwhile I'm still sitting calmly at the table with my coffee, watching this circus unfold. Dogs running in circles barking, cat looking frantically from side to side, husband equipped with everything but a .22 caliber air rifle -- and then I notice the mouse, actually hiding UNDER THE CAT.
I'm not sure how Mousie got away, but eventually calm was restored and the mouse was gone. I often imagine her regaling her friends with tales of the giant loonies upstairs.
Of course Fivey will never admit that she was spoofed by a mouse.
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Haha, that is an awesome story
I have just hung my full length mirror in my bedroom. I moved at the end of April...(to be fair, the way I had the room before, there was no good wall space to put it). I also noticed, after stepping back having cleaned the mirror, that my quad definition down the side is back!!
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VintageFeline wrote: »GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »The nicest thing about menopause is that ALL of this is just distant memories.
If it weren't for the fact doctors are really really reluctant to whip out child bearing age women's baby making bits if there's no medical need I'd do it. Then my mental meds could stop interfering with cycle and the pill. And I could stop buying sanitary products. I'm too old to donate eggs as well now so literally no use to me or anyone else at this point!
I had my “plumbing” disconnected at 38. Best decision for me. My PCP and OB/GYN were awesome and it was covered by insurance. The nurses were appalled, I heard them talking about me when I woke up in recovery. They thought I was a lot younger than I was, but still they have no right to judge. Though I lived in Oklahoma at the time and I was denying my God-given purpose for existence by having surgery that meant I’d never bear children. (Their words, not mine.)
I was in terrible pain each month and (saying the socially unacceptable thing a woman is never supposed to say) I never wanted to have children. Fostering is more my gig. Teenagers. They age out of the system with nothing and no one ever wants to adopt the older ones. At a few get to know someone wants them. I work with college students and they’re the same age group.
TL;DR With the right doc, it’s possible if it’s what you really want. Have to warn you though, the tests before hand SUCK! Far more painful than the surgery and recovery.7 -
Nony_Mouse wrote: »As much as I hate him bringing in the poor, dead, baby bunnies, I do love watching him hunt. He will just sit there, so patient and still, at dusk and dawn. Waiting...
I've heard that rabbits are an ecological problem in Australia-is it the same where you are? I suppose you could console yourself that he's doing the native species a favor lol
Though was it new Zealand that was talking about outlawing cats a few years ago? It's been a long time since I saw the article that said the cats were killing too many native birds so the government was considering it, but I don't remember exactly where it was. I just remember being appalled!0 -
"Hanging out in the shade of a tree" is the pinnacle of any celebrated day.. The only state in the US allowed to have that reference during December is probably Hawaii. Taking a random trip to a tropical island sounds really good right about now. Really, a nap sounds just as good.
Unfortunately, SoCal also qualifies. We’ve had unseasonably warm weather this fall (90 on Thanksgiving and 80’s last week). And then there’s the whole out-of-Control Fire thing.0 -
Nony_Mouse wrote: »So I went for a walk with the friend who did the weed whacking for me on Saturday tonight. As we're wandering along, he casually announces that, oh yeah, he'd been feeling a bit off before he'd come over, stiff neck etc, and turns out he had a mild case of shingles (he's had them before, so is pretty sure). I currently have a pretty much non-functioning immune system. Chicken pox (and therefore shingles) is one of the things on the list of things to tell my doctor if I come in contact with. I have felt absolutely punk today. I could just about cry at this point.
Also, things I could have done with knowing a little sooner than five days later.
I clicked “like” for support, but would rather have a (((hugs))) button.4 -
bmeadows380 wrote: »Nony_Mouse wrote: »As much as I hate him bringing in the poor, dead, baby bunnies, I do love watching him hunt. He will just sit there, so patient and still, at dusk and dawn. Waiting...
I've heard that rabbits are an ecological problem in Australia-is it the same where you are? I suppose you could console yourself that he's doing the native species a favor lol
Though was it new Zealand that was talking about outlawing cats a few years ago? It's been a long time since I saw the article that said the cats were killing too many native birds so the government was considering it, but I don't remember exactly where it was. I just remember being appalled!
Massive, massive problem. And I know this, and my conservation ethos is strong. But they are so cute and tiny
Wasn't the government, rich man (who did actually form a political party this year). He has backed off a little from his hard line stance. Some of his stuff I actually agree with (de-sexing, microchipping, registration). He also did a campaign against rats. Several people pointed out that cats kill quite a few of those, so, y'know...I know my cats aren't saints, and do get the odd native bird probably, but the twins have always been far more rodent-oriented in their hunting, so I figure the occasional bird is well balanced out.2 -
Nony_Mouse wrote: »So I went for a walk with the friend who did the weed whacking for me on Saturday tonight. As we're wandering along, he casually announces that, oh yeah, he'd been feeling a bit off before he'd come over, stiff neck etc, and turns out he had a mild case of shingles (he's had them before, so is pretty sure). I currently have a pretty much non-functioning immune system. Chicken pox (and therefore shingles) is one of the things on the list of things to tell my doctor if I come in contact with. I have felt absolutely punk today. I could just about cry at this point.
Also, things I could have done with knowing a little sooner than five days later.
I clicked “like” for support, but would rather have a (((hugs))) button.
Thank you
Shingles were an anxiety over-reaction. Everything else is holding, though have had a couple of days of feeling incredibly punk. Okay yesterday and today, ish. Comparatively a lot better!! It's cooler today, which helps. Though, what fricking rain????1 -
livingleanlivingclean wrote: »I have no animal pictures to share - we're more dog than cat people, and don't have the right environment or time for the dog we'd love (Alaska malamute)....
I had terrible luck with kittens when I was younger - I had 3 at separate times, (willow, catkin and champagne)... They all ended up getting out and meeting their fate on the road. Champagne used to be our dogs best friend (a giant newfoundland called Nelson) - they would chase each other round the garden and sleep curled up together.
On topic.... Is it weird if I am getting antsy about still eating at maintenance? I just want to see how I react to deficit again! Haha. I shouldn't complain, I'm enjoying the extra carbs.
Nony, I'm with you on the heat - we've had a few days in the mid-30s. Urgh. Going outside is awful - I had been enjoying jogs/walks to the shops, but it's even too warm at 7/8am for that.
So sorry about your kitten losses.
And no, it’s not weird at all to fear maintenance. I still do and I’ve been in maintenance for three years. Geez, you’d think I’d be a little better about being mentally stable, but ... NOPE! “What if I get fat again” is an annoying little voice in the back of my head.
I am working on a recomp and trying to maintain a small 150-250 cal/day deficit. Shifting from maintenance back to a small deficit is a mental challenge. Hard not to go all-out after those years of deficit for weight loss.
Inspired by all the spreadsheet talk I e begun one to track and compare data incoming diet, macros, TDEE and exercise/steps. Nothing fancy no determining standard deviation or using regression (dear God, if I even mention running this through SPSS will someone please reach out through the internet and slap me?). Just some tracking with some line graphs in another month or so with enough data points.
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Sorry for the clump of late-ish replies. Saved the thread for when I was lifting at the gym as it helps me get enough rest in between sets. If you all weren't such and engaging, informative bunch I’d get bored and rush through my lifts.3
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Okay, bedroom and living room furniture all rearranged!! Moved couch twice because the first plan just didn't work. Second run I was iffy about, then remembered I had more speaker wire, and could therefore move a speaker and get a chair in a better position. Living room rearrangement was necessary because the morning sun streams in right where the couch was, and where Miss Photosensitive sits drinking coffee and eating breakfast in the mornings. Yeah, no wonder my back is so brown! Hopefully I have been able to reposition it enough to be out of the sun.1
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Oh and as for saying I feel okay-ish today? Yeah, not so much. I think it's just pred leaving my system stuff. Doesn't feel like eczema flare.0
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Just gotta say I really love your profile pic @Psychgrrl1
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Nony_Mouse wrote: »GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »I was down another .2 pounds this morning, which while it could be a fluctuation... I know my body patterns from prior whoosh patterns. This is part of the full whoosh.
Anyway, today was a refeed day and I it came just in time because the hungries hit. I was considering starting refeed yesterday and just wasn't hungry, but am wondering for next week, considering how hungry I was today, if it might be better to time my refeed pre-emptively and just do it no matter what my body is telling me.
I keep waiting for what Nony mentioned about these refeeds no longer feeling uncomfortably full to happen. That hasn't started yet.
I'm really not getting this, because you know, this is the same chick who spent the past year having a problem with disinhibited binge-like behavior and who had grown quite accustomed to feeling uncomfortably full.
Now, here I am... 7 weeks? 8 weeks? I've lost count without a binge and I don't like that feeling any more.
Weird. And interesting.
I think I just got a little better at not leaving myself having to eat stupidly big meals, and if I did, pacing them. Like pizza is perfect, because all the cals, but not actually that much volume. I can munch through one of my pizzas no problems. But totally hear you on going from the 'omg eat all the food!!' to 'oh dear god, more??'. It is indeed weird.
Part of yours is very possibly that your appetite is just so punk atm though. The days I was feeling really wretched the last couple of weeks were only made possible by shakes. If I'd had to eat those calories in solid food, I don't think I could have.
The thing is that my refeed meals aren't even that large comparatively speaking to my regular meals. I think it's a timing issue given that I IF and how my appetite works. And all my NEAT and then I'm left with all these calories. And there I am.
I think you have a very good point about my appetite being punk right now because of my health. It's still pretty abysmal on that front. My TDEE is still running well because I fight things by staying active, so it's a catch-22 to balance things.
But yes, I saw your next post, next week, I will re-feed pre-emptively, on a schedule, instead of the day the hungries hit at a time before my scheduled meal time.1 -
Sorry for the clump of late-ish replies. Saved the thread for when I was lifting at the gym as it helps me get enough rest in between sets. If you all weren't such and engaging, informative bunch I’d get bored and rush through my lifts.
No worries. I'm happy you're here. You're one of my favorite posters, and I'm glad you've joined in with our little bunch.3 -
So, Merry Christmas Nony, two weeks early. Hit the number I decided I didn't care about bang on this morning. I suspected it was there under the water retention.
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JoLightensUp wrote: »Just gotta say I really love your profile pic @Psychgrrl
Thanks! It’s me when I was four. I was such a cute kid. I often wonder what the heck happened!5 -
GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »Sorry for the clump of late-ish replies. Saved the thread for when I was lifting at the gym as it helps me get enough rest in between sets. If you all weren't such and engaging, informative bunch I’d get bored and rush through my lifts.
No worries. I'm happy you're here. You're one of my favorite posters, and I'm glad you've joined in with our little bunch.
Right back at ya!1
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