Of refeeds and diet breaks
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God bless momma and papa and Tiny Tim and Mr. Scrooge and anubis609 and nony_mouse and all their refeed disciples amen.
I'm a combination of the Grinch and Scrooge. So I celebrate xmas with a Vegas break
Nony_Mouse wrote: »nexangelus wrote: »Whilst many are miffed at the gain of pounds, I am actually celebrating the upwards swing. It seems to be working. A whole 2 lbs up and steady for two days, six days into surplus. Have upped my carbs today, gone all mega shake as well and downed my fats a bit and nausea seems to be abating. Phew...bodyfat percentage down...
I'm curious if I'd be okay doing a deliberate bulk now (not like right now). I've always said no freaking way, but I always gain a little in winter it seems, so I'm thinking next year I may as well put it to good use.
Bulking season coincides around this time, so you're in good company lol.4 -
Yeah, I'm not very Christmassy.
This year my eldest niece (my Mini Me) isn't going home to my parents' for Xmas, so is spending the day with me. She announced the other day that she may have a new boyfriend in tow
But she also said when I suggested maybe we should do some planning that she figured she'd just turn up with wine, so I think we'll be fine Hanging out in the shade of a tree sipping on bubbles sounds pretty much how Christmas should be in my book. 4 -
I mostly do the loner thing at Christmas now (estranged from family) and I've come to quite enjoy it. I'll have the odd one with my closest friend and usually some of her OH's family (she's Canadian so no family here) when it's being hosted in London as it were. They sometimes go to someone out of London and me tagging along then would be really awkward, heh.
But it's the only day of the year that there's delicious, peaceful silence in my flat due to living on a busy road. So when I get an invite I feel like I have to say yes but quietly would like my day of silence instead!
I've had the invite this year but I think there's no family involved at hers this time. She's just qualified after retraining to become a midwife and unfortunately is on the night shift Christmas Eve so not really up for anything major on the day. I'll drive up and back down same day because Horatio is not to be trusted to be alone and hungry for any extended periods.
But now I'm in the selfish part of my dilemma and do I cancel so I can have my lovely quiet day at home. I'll see a bit closer to the time. Got the anniversary of losing Dave (cat, soulmate cat) on the 13th but it's also the 6 month anniversary of Horatio crashing into my life so we'll see how I deal with that!
Already fantasising about goose fat roast potatoes though.4 -
"Hanging out in the shade of a tree" is the pinnacle of any celebrated day.. The only state in the US allowed to have that reference during December is probably Hawaii. Taking a random trip to a tropical island sounds really good right about now. Really, a nap sounds just as good.4
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"Hanging out in the shade of a tree" is the pinnacle of any celebrated day.. The only state in the US allowed to have that reference during December is probably Hawaii. Taking a random trip to a tropical island sounds really good right about now. Really, a nap sounds just as good.
And Florida, though they are about to have a chilly snap. I could do with a beach right now.1 -
VintageFeline wrote: »"Hanging out in the shade of a tree" is the pinnacle of any celebrated day.. The only state in the US allowed to have that reference during December is probably Hawaii. Taking a random trip to a tropical island sounds really good right about now. Really, a nap sounds just as good.
And Florida, though they are about to have a chilly snap. I could do with a beach right now.
Ah, you're right.. I forget about Florida, even if I've been there 2x, both around the late fall/hurricane season. Perhaps it was just the company I was with lol.0 -
"Hanging out in the shade of a tree" is the pinnacle of any celebrated day.. The only state in the US allowed to have that reference during December is probably Hawaii. Taking a random trip to a tropical island sounds really good right about now. Really, a nap sounds just as good.
Strawberries at my house, just sayin'...
I like my loner Christmas too. The first one I ever did on my own was when I moved to the top of the country, middle of nowhere (I literally lived in a forest). Previous one had been hot on the heels of massive break up, so sucked to say the least, ones before that for many years had been spent running between two families in two different locations. I was more than happy to sit on a bean bag and read a book!! Haven't been home for Christmas since I moved away 11 years ago. I've done Orphans Christmas with friends in the evening the last couple of years, and hosted a few little close circle ones myself, but now that I'm in the country, I'm staying put!!
I will probably just make random nibbly things to eat. If anything gets cooked, it will be on the BBQ. Corn on the cob, halloumi, vege kebabs (with halloumi), y'know, traditional Christmas fare
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I do myself a full roast with all the trimmings. Because roast dinners are my absolute favourite thing in the whole world. I usually do the nibbly bits for NYE which I also do not partake of.2
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VintageFeline wrote: »I do myself a full roast with all the trimmings. Because roast dinners are my absolute favourite thing in the whole world. I usually do the nibbly bits for NYE which I also do not partake of.
I expect it to be too hot for having the oven on. But then, you've experienced Christmas in NZ. I may be being overly optimistic.0 -
Also, really hungry from that 670 cal deficit yesterday...0
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Nony_Mouse wrote: »"Hanging out in the shade of a tree" is the pinnacle of any celebrated day.. The only state in the US allowed to have that reference during December is probably Hawaii. Taking a random trip to a tropical island sounds really good right about now. Really, a nap sounds just as good.
Strawberries at my house, just sayin'...
I like my loner Christmas too. The first one I ever did on my own was when I moved to the top of the country, middle of nowhere (I literally lived in a forest). Previous one had been hot on the heels of massive break up, so sucked to say the least, ones before that for many years had been spent running between two families in two different locations. I was more than happy to sit on a bean bag and read a book!! Haven't been home for Christmas since I moved away 11 years ago. I've done Orphans Christmas with friends in the evening the last couple of years, and hosted a few little close circle ones myself, but now that I'm in the country, I'm staying put!!
I will probably just make random nibbly things to eat. If anything gets cooked, it will be on the BBQ. Corn on the cob, halloumi, vege kebabs (with halloumi), y'know, traditional Christmas fare
Temptress! Them berries tho..
A xmas bbq sounds really damn good. I'll make sure to get some at the buffet haha.1 -
Nony_Mouse wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »I do myself a full roast with all the trimmings. Because roast dinners are my absolute favourite thing in the whole world. I usually do the nibbly bits for NYE which I also do not partake of.
I expect it to be too hot for having the oven on. But then, you've experienced Christmas in NZ. I may be being overly optimistic.
Ha, yes. I only did one and it was pleasantly warm. We had a barbecue.1 -
You know, you all have inspired me. I am going to lobby hard for nibbles for Christmas day.
I suspect there will be a mutinous uprising from my children, though. Even though their ravioli tradition is all of about six years old, it's set in stone now as far as they're concerned.1 -
GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »You know, you all have inspired me. I am going to lobby hard for nibbles for Christmas day.
I suspect there will be a mutinous uprising from my children, though. Even though their ravioli tradition is all of about six years old, it's set in stone now as far as they're concerned.
Ravioli as a dinner starter?0 -
Going to have a very unique Christmas experience this year. Christmas in the Colonial Highlands of Mexico!3
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Nony_Mouse wrote: »
Think of it this way, if we do end up moving there, you will have a base of operations to come and stay for archaeological visits!4 -
Nony_Mouse wrote: »
Think of it this way, if we do end up moving there, you will have a base of operations to come and stay for archaeological visits!
Squee!!!!3 -
Nony_Mouse wrote: »
Think of it this way, if we do end up moving there, you will have a base of operations to come and stay for archaeological visits!
In.3 -
Nony_Mouse wrote: »Nony_Mouse wrote: »
Think of it this way, if we do end up moving there, you will have a base of operations to come and stay for archaeological visits!
Squee!!!!
There's always me 'n all. Though you wither share my bed or it's a blow up mattress in the lounge.3 -
VintageFeline wrote: »Nony_Mouse wrote: »Nony_Mouse wrote: »
Think of it this way, if we do end up moving there, you will have a base of operations to come and stay for archaeological visits!
Squee!!!!
There's always me 'n all. Though you wither share my bed or it's a blow up mattress in the lounge.
I do have great plans of making it to London, don't you worry!!3 -
Nony_Mouse wrote: »Nony_Mouse wrote: »
Think of it this way, if we do end up moving there, you will have a base of operations to come and stay for archaeological visits!
Squee!!!!
And right in the geographical center of the country! About 4 hours bus trip from the Teotihuacan site. I was just listening to a podcast about this site on one of my Valley Forge walks over the weekend. You can apparently walk all the way to the top of the Pyramid of the Sun. But only partially up the Pyramid of the moon. They said it is the equivalent height of a 20 story building!2 -
VintageFeline wrote: »Nony_Mouse wrote: »
Think of it this way, if we do end up moving there, you will have a base of operations to come and stay for archaeological visits!
In.
And you would be welcomed! And my lovely bride would feel that way even more than me. One of things she is most excited about is everyone who has said they would visit. She has a gift for genuine hospitality and a welcoming spirit.3 -
Nony_Mouse wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »The interesting thing about this is that he now thinks 1 day isn't enough for most people (I think RFL/PSMF is a bit different but if you know what that is then you know, you know?) and this concept of having one refeed a week is pretty pointless in terms of restoring leptin levels to their optimum. You need to overfeed for longer and it has to be very carb heavy. Or in terms of a full diet break then, again, it has to be at least a week and include significant increase of carbs.
But I again admit I haven't yet listened to all of it.
Yep, that's pretty much what I got from watching the whole thing. A one day refeed may help psychologically, but it does squat all to leptin (actually, nothing). Two days seems to do the trick, three is probably even better, but then you are getting into either having to have a huge deficit on your other days, or tiny, tiny weight loss.
I would AGREE with this. The thing is there is no magic formula. It's what you said here, but it's also an ART. It's knowing your approximate TEE and being in tune with your body. I've been playing this game with my body for about 8 years now (maintaining a healthy lower body weight) and it ebbs and flows with the seasons, with life, with stress, etc. Definitely an art to it.
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OMG guys! You let us sink to p. 2????
Morning 5 -
Sorry, I'm just over here trying to deal with the tired that comes from being a mental insomniac (with tongue firmly in cheek, I can call myself mental, you can't! Oh okay, maybe you lot can).
In thread related news. I haven't hit a new low yet but Happyscale seems to think I am actually losing 1lb per week now. So we'll see. 'Bout to change that regardless because full diet break is imminent!4 -
Ah yes, slightly tired here too. Resorted to taking a benzo last night even though I really didn't want to, because I need my brain to do brainy science things.
Weight is essentially back to start of diet break (so 700g up still from start of pred). Diet break is of course continuing until we see what's going on under the water weight. Actually made up for some of Tuesday's unintended deficit yesterday! My new blender is awesome, and can make even bigger shakes!! (I didn't, but I can, that's somehow comforting).
Meant to be stupid hot again today, and my little portacom lab heats up like a mofo, so there's probably not going to be much choice but to turn the air conditioning on. Also, my skin is now so photsensitive from antihistamines that sunblock has no chance (resorted to some on face, chest, back and arms yesterday, still stings, though not as bad, not sure it's possible to find one even more sensitive unless I go straight zinc, which I am willing to do if it means I can hike). Taking my parasol to work today for any outside wandering time, b/c sunhat is not enough. Maybe a sombrero?1 -
Oh and my hay fever is making a strong comeback with the lower pred dose (not that it fully went away, but, y'know, there's a dune right behind my house covered in seeding grass...), so needless to say I'm a little terrified that the eczema is going to do the same once I'm fully off the pred
. But for now, area around armpits actually looks like almost normal skin instead of Lizard Lady, neck and chest are not as red, but worse again after sun and sunblock yesterday, side of right thigh has some itchiness, but rash status is pretty good, seem to have gotten away with skipping dry scaly stage with pred and diligent emollient application. 1 -
Maybe look into Ultrasun if you can get it. It's what I use and it's ridiculously good. It's a once a day and I have never burned with it on, even in Florida and you know how I'm the whitest white person that ever whited. BUT I didn't get on with the face variety but may just be me. Made me breakout. But for you that may be the lesser of two evils.2
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VintageFeline wrote: »Maybe look into Ultrasun if you can get it. It's what I use and it's ridiculously good. It's a once a day and I have never burned with it on, even in Florida and you know how I'm the whitest white person that ever whited. BUT I didn't get on with the face variety but may just be me. Made me breakout. But for you that may be the lesser of two evils.
Going to see if I can track down some Invisible Zinc (though I think my Sunsense Invisible is pretty similar). I'm a little wary of the nanoparticle thing. I know (thanks, science) it's not an issue for most people in terms of the particles getting through skin, but, defective skin barrier, so...
I think the inches of topical steroids and emollient don't help with absorption either (though do in effect give my skin its needed barrier), though I always leave a gap between applying those and then sunscreen. My getting ready routine take freaking forever. Topicals, let those sink in a bit, emollient, let that sink in, sunscreen if my skin is up to it, give that 20-30 mins to take effect...0
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