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which is the best diet for overall health and weight loss
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VintageFeline wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »thus the Original OPs post was average - what you are talking about are statistical outliers - in general people who eat less carbs - NOT no Carbs but less carbs - will on average be healthier - 40% is too high - the FDA has us eating 75% of our diet Grains Fruit and veg...... too much sugar under those percentages
Tell me, if my protein is adequate, fat adequate, micros being met, what actual, quantifiable harm is the sugar doing to me however I'm eating it?
Inflammation of soft tissue - Insulin sensitivity (High A1C numbers) - heart disease, peripheral neuropathy for starters
Evidence for this? And not one of the spurious links you've already provided.
here is one https://www.webmd.com/diabetes/peripheral-neuropathy-risk-factors-symptoms#1
This is just a description of peripheral neuropathy. It doesn't even come close to supporting the claims you've made so far.4 -
This is a true Friday, feel like I haven't had one of these for a while . . .16
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VintageFeline wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »thus the Original OPs post was average - what you are talking about are statistical outliers - in general people who eat less carbs - NOT no Carbs but less carbs - will on average be healthier - 40% is too high - the FDA has us eating 75% of our diet Grains Fruit and veg...... too much sugar under those percentages
Tell me, if my protein is adequate, fat adequate, micros being met, what actual, quantifiable harm is the sugar doing to me however I'm eating it?
Inflammation of soft tissue - Insulin sensitivity (High A1C numbers) - heart disease, peripheral neuropathy for starters
Evidence for this? And not one of the spurious links you've already provided.
here is one https://www.webmd.com/diabetes/peripheral-neuropathy-risk-factors-symptoms#1
Obesity is the number one driver of diabetes...not carbs or sugar directly. People who are obese eat a *kitten* ton of everything...and yes, once you are diabetic is important to watch your carbs and sugar very closely...because you have a medical condition at that point.
Carbs and sugar in and of themselves don't cause diabetes...eating a *kitten* ton of food in general does. You can spike your blood sugar eating a *kitten* ton of protein too...
I don't need to eat like a diabetic...because I'm not a diabetic. I'm not a particular risk either given that I'm not over fat in the least.5 -
Again, an article and not a study. A meta-analysis would be even better, but I suppose that's too much to hope for. Again, talking only about a certain subset of people (those with diabetes) and not the population as a whole.2 -
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janejellyroll wrote: »This is a true Friday, feel like I haven't had one of these for a while . . .
Truth right there.
I was planing on getting a head start on my biochem classwork since the friends I was planing on hitting town with are out with the flu :grumble: (I do feel bad for them).
Kinda glad I stayed in
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diannethegeek wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »thus the Original OPs post was average - what you are talking about are statistical outliers - in general people who eat less carbs - NOT no Carbs but less carbs - will on average be healthier - 40% is too high - the FDA has us eating 75% of our diet Grains Fruit and veg...... too much sugar under those percentages
Tell me, if my protein is adequate, fat adequate, micros being met, what actual, quantifiable harm is the sugar doing to me however I'm eating it?
Inflammation of soft tissue - Insulin sensitivity (High A1C numbers) - heart disease, peripheral neuropathy for starters
Evidence for this? And not one of the spurious links you've already provided.
here is one https://www.webmd.com/diabetes/peripheral-neuropathy-risk-factors-symptoms#1
This article (which is not the same as a study) is about people with diabetes. Do you have any evidence of this being a concern for the majority of the healthy population, or are we talking about those dreaded outliers again?
and pre-diabetic Hig A1C numbers - 40% carbs is too high ---- and will lead to long term inflamation
What is the basis for this claim?1 -
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bottom line 40% is too high - 20% is better - especially when you can get the ATP you need from Fat content - FAT is good for you - small amount of sugar you need but not almost half you diet
Who is talking about getting half their calories from sugar? This is something you've made up, it doesn't resemble any of the diets being recommended here.
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diannethegeek wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »thus the Original OPs post was average - what you are talking about are statistical outliers - in general people who eat less carbs - NOT no Carbs but less carbs - will on average be healthier - 40% is too high - the FDA has us eating 75% of our diet Grains Fruit and veg...... too much sugar under those percentages
Tell me, if my protein is adequate, fat adequate, micros being met, what actual, quantifiable harm is the sugar doing to me however I'm eating it?
Inflammation of soft tissue - Insulin sensitivity (High A1C numbers) - heart disease, peripheral neuropathy for starters
Evidence for this? And not one of the spurious links you've already provided.
here is one https://www.webmd.com/diabetes/peripheral-neuropathy-risk-factors-symptoms#1
This article (which is not the same as a study) is about people with diabetes. Do you have any evidence of this being a concern for the majority of the healthy population, or are we talking about those dreaded outliers again?
and pre-diabetic Hig A1C numbers - 40% carbs is too high ---- and will lead to long term inflamation
Is the OP diabetic or pre-diabetic? I thought she just had holes in her intestines. If someone is diabetic or has pre-diabetes then the recommendations change (although I still say that a straight bro split isn't the way to go and recommendations should be based on their actual stats). But for everyone else, including me, the OP, and most of the people in this thread, it's unnecessary to worry about diabetic concerns.5 -
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cwolfman13 wrote: »
Can I eat back 100% of those exercise calories?
Cause I'd really like another slice of that chocolate cake (just no calories left for the day...) and I could fit in a half slice for those...3 -
The nice thing is that this implosion happened on a thread that was already destined to crash and burn anyway, rather than hijacking a legit discussion. I'm surprised and grateful it hasn't been nuked yet, I do NOT feel like getting my work done.7
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ladyreva78 wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »
Can I eat back 100% of those exercise calories?
Cause I'd really like another slice of that chocolate cake (just no calories left for the day...) and I could fit in a half slice for those...
I hope so 'cuz the kiddos and I are having our bi-monthly pizza and movie night tonight.3 -
janejellyroll wrote: »This is a true Friday, feel like I haven't had one of these for a while . . .
Surely it's time for cat gifs...4 -
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moosmum1972 wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »
As the old saying goes.....you can't argue with stupid.
and that's why i am not auguring with you
You shouldn't augur with anyone, attempts to predict the future in that manner are generally a waste of time.21 -
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Nony_Mouse wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »This is a true Friday, feel like I haven't had one of these for a while . . .
Surely it's time for cat gifs...
Ask and you shall recieve...
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we all destined to die some sooner than others
You can pry my carbs from dead cold hands. I am not even remotely in fear after reading all this I am doing one thing wrong with MY diet or exercise.2 -
Those dang carbs.
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Don't worry . . . it's just a burger patty on a lettuce leaf in the bag. The vegetable content is low enough that you won't have to worry about getting the sugars.11 -
diannethegeek wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »thus the Original OPs post was average - what you are talking about are statistical outliers - in general people who eat less carbs - NOT no Carbs but less carbs - will on average be healthier - 40% is too high - the FDA has us eating 75% of our diet Grains Fruit and veg...... too much sugar under those percentages
Tell me, if my protein is adequate, fat adequate, micros being met, what actual, quantifiable harm is the sugar doing to me however I'm eating it?
Inflammation of soft tissue - Insulin sensitivity (High A1C numbers) - heart disease, peripheral neuropathy for starters
Evidence for this? And not one of the spurious links you've already provided.
here is one https://www.webmd.com/diabetes/peripheral-neuropathy-risk-factors-symptoms#1
This article (which is not the same as a study) is about people with diabetes. Do you have any evidence of this being a concern for the majority of the healthy population, or are we talking about those dreaded outliers again?
and pre-diabetic Hig A1C numbers - 40% carbs is too high ---- and will lead to long term inflamation
I am neither diabetic nor pre-diabetic. Carbs and I are good.
Again, A STUDY, an actual link to an actual study, not an article, not you shouting MAYO or anything else.1 -
I'm surprised I didn't drop dead from all those refeeds I did in the last few months of last year. I was pushing 300+ grams of carbs a day on weekends, easily over 40% of my cals. And yet here I am, slim, healthy (other than eczema and hay fever, which have no connection to carb or sugar intake, might have tested that one already...), perfect blood work (including A1C). I are special snowflake?5
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