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which is the best diet for overall health and weight loss
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The populations with the highest numbers of centenarians(people over 100 for the glucose starved brains) eat way more than 20% of their diets in carb, some get as much as 90% carbs. Sucks to be a low carb cuck
we all destined to die some sooner than others
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Nony_Mouse wrote: »
I'm surprised I didn't drop dead from all those refeeds I did in the last few months of last year. I was pushing 300+ grams of carbs a day on weekends, easily over 40% of my cals. And yet here I am, slim, healthy (other than eczema and hay fever, which have no connection to carb or sugar intake, might have tested that one already...), perfect blood work (including A1C). I are special snowflake?
Not sure what others think, but I think you're pretty special.....5 -
janejellyroll wrote: »
Don't worry . . . it's just a burger patty on a lettuce leaf in the bag. The vegetable content is low enough that you won't have to worry about getting the sugars.
Sounds like sadness in a bag
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bottom line 40% is too high - 20% is better - especially when you can get the ATP you need from Fat content - FAT is good for you - small amount of sugar you need but not almost half you diet
Who here said they are not eating fat? Who here said half their diet is sugar?
Again carbs =/= sugar.
Lord above I thought young 'uns these days had poor reading comprehension and analytical skills. Apparently it's cross generational.5 -
ladyreva78 wrote: »Nony_Mouse wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »This is a true Friday, feel like I haven't had one of these for a while . . .
Surely it's time for cat gifs...
Ask and you shall recieve...
I actually have a ginger cat that chases his tail. Usually on the headboard of the bed at 4am. It's fun.7 -
janejellyroll wrote: »
Don't worry . . . it's just a burger patty on a lettuce leaf in the bag. The vegetable content is low enough that you won't have to worry about getting the sugars.
Sounds like sadness in a bag
The important thing is that we've resisted the government lies about Special K and apples. They won't capture our minds.9 -
janejellyroll wrote: »
Don't worry . . . it's just a burger patty on a lettuce leaf in the bag. The vegetable content is low enough that you won't have to worry about getting the sugars.
I had to get something with lettuce leaf wrap instead of roti when I was away last weekend. Hung my head in shame and almost cried (and also thought 'that's not anywhere near enough cals to keep me going at a concert for 5 hours). My friends got a good laugh out of it though!1 -
VintageFeline wrote: »diannethegeek wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »thus the Original OPs post was average - what you are talking about are statistical outliers - in general people who eat less carbs - NOT no Carbs but less carbs - will on average be healthier - 40% is too high - the FDA has us eating 75% of our diet Grains Fruit and veg...... too much sugar under those percentages
Tell me, if my protein is adequate, fat adequate, micros being met, what actual, quantifiable harm is the sugar doing to me however I'm eating it?
Inflammation of soft tissue - Insulin sensitivity (High A1C numbers) - heart disease, peripheral neuropathy for starters
Evidence for this? And not one of the spurious links you've already provided.
here is one https://www.webmd.com/diabetes/peripheral-neuropathy-risk-factors-symptoms#1
This article (which is not the same as a study) is about people with diabetes. Do you have any evidence of this being a concern for the majority of the healthy population, or are we talking about those dreaded outliers again?
and pre-diabetic Hig A1C numbers - 40% carbs is too high ---- and will lead to long term inflamation
I am neither diabetic nor pre-diabetic. Carbs and I are good.
Again, A STUDY, an actual link to an actual study, not an article, not you shouting MAYO or anything else.
I'm now imagining him walking down the cereal aisle shouting, "MAYO! NIH!" over and over again. Throwing protein bars at people.6 -
Nony_Mouse wrote: »
I'm surprised I didn't drop dead from all those refeeds I did in the last few months of last year. I was pushing 300+ grams of carbs a day on weekends, easily over 40% of my cals. And yet here I am, slim, healthy (other than eczema and hay fever, which have no connection to carb or sugar intake, might have tested that one already...), perfect blood work (including A1C). I are special snowflake?
Special Snowflake... lol
I am pushing about 250-275 a day right now daily, maintaining weight, feel great, stamina to do lots of exercise and I will be 50 veeeeerrry soon.
I ran 10 miles today (training run this morning), I wonder if carbs had anything to do with that???7 -
janejellyroll wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »
Don't worry . . . it's just a burger patty on a lettuce leaf in the bag. The vegetable content is low enough that you won't have to worry about getting the sugars.
Sounds like sadness in a bag
The important thing is that we've resisted the government lies about Special K and apples. They won't capture our minds.
Praise be!
Oh wait, wrong thread
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VintageFeline wrote: »ladyreva78 wrote: »Nony_Mouse wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »This is a true Friday, feel like I haven't had one of these for a while . . .
Surely it's time for cat gifs...
Ask and you shall recieve...
I actually have a ginger cat that chases his tail. Usually on the headboard of the bed at 4am. It's fun.
I have a Chihuahua/corgi mix who likes to do this exact move around that same time, but my lower legs are his favorite dancing spot. Nothing like being jarred out of the deepest part of your sleep cycle by a tiny tornado.5 -
Nony_Mouse wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »
Don't worry . . . it's just a burger patty on a lettuce leaf in the bag. The vegetable content is low enough that you won't have to worry about getting the sugars.
I had to get something with lettuce leaf wrap instead of roti when I was away last weekend. Hung my head in shame and almost cried (and also thought 'that's not anywhere near enough cals to keep me going at a concert for 5 hours). My friends got a good laugh out of it though!
Yes, a couple spots here do their vegan burger with a lettuce wrap instead of bun (because the bun has animal stuff). Like, damn it, if I wanted a salad I would order that, not a burger!3 -
janejellyroll wrote: »Nony_Mouse wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »
Don't worry . . . it's just a burger patty on a lettuce leaf in the bag. The vegetable content is low enough that you won't have to worry about getting the sugars.
I had to get something with lettuce leaf wrap instead of roti when I was away last weekend. Hung my head in shame and almost cried (and also thought 'that's not anywhere near enough cals to keep me going at a concert for 5 hours). My friends got a good laugh out of it though!
Yes, a couple spots here do their vegan burger with a lettuce wrap instead of bun (because the bun has animal stuff). Like, damn it, if I wanted a salad I would order that, not a burger!
I truly don't care about the gluten thing (eczema trigger) most of the time, but by god it's a PIA when you're travelling and looking for a quick bite.0 -
janejellyroll wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »ladyreva78 wrote: »Nony_Mouse wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »This is a true Friday, feel like I haven't had one of these for a while . . .
Surely it's time for cat gifs...
Ask and you shall recieve...
I actually have a ginger cat that chases his tail. Usually on the headboard of the bed at 4am. It's fun.
I have a Chihuahua/corgi mix who likes to do this exact move around that same time, but my lower legs are his favorite dancing spot. Nothing like being jarred out of the deepest part of your sleep cycle by a tiny tornado.
We'd be here a very long time if I went into everything Horatio does that infringes upon my physical and mental wellbeing and that of the two feline older ladies he also shares the home with. Whirlwind doesn't cut it.3 -
Nony_Mouse wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »Nony_Mouse wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »
Don't worry . . . it's just a burger patty on a lettuce leaf in the bag. The vegetable content is low enough that you won't have to worry about getting the sugars.
I had to get something with lettuce leaf wrap instead of roti when I was away last weekend. Hung my head in shame and almost cried (and also thought 'that's not anywhere near enough cals to keep me going at a concert for 5 hours). My friends got a good laugh out of it though!
Yes, a couple spots here do their vegan burger with a lettuce wrap instead of bun (because the bun has animal stuff). Like, damn it, if I wanted a salad I would order that, not a burger!
I truly don't care about the gluten thing (eczema trigger) most of the time, but by god it's a PIA when you're travelling and looking for a quick bite.
Yeah, I find when you're on a special diet (either for health or other reasons) long enough you almost forget it when you're at home because you get really good at picking food and preparing it . . . and then you travel and you're plunged into this world where you're forced to survive on plain side salads and memories of the last thing you ate in your own kitchen.
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Having kasha with roasted sweet potatoes and peas for dinner. According to the recipe builder, that's 92 grams of carby goodness right there (Including 12g fibre and 15g sugar). I will enjoy every luscious carb, plus the 16 grams of protein, 8 grams of fat, 32% of my potassium RDA, 18% of my iron RDA and enough Vitamin A to give me superpowers*.
*According to the recipe builder, it's 630% of the RDA9 -
estherdragonbat wrote: »Having kasha with roasted sweet potatoes and peas for dinner. According to the recipe builder, that's 92 grams of carby goodness right there (Including 12g fibre and 15g sugar). I will enjoy every luscious carb, plus the 16 grams of protein, 8 grams of fat, 32% of my potassium RDA, 18% of my iron RDA and enough Vitamin A to give me superpowers*.
*According to the recipe builder, it's 630% of the RDA
It's been a pleasure knowing you. 6 -
we all destined to die some sooner than others
At 62, I'm getting a little old to die young, despite several decades of obesity, inactivity, and other dysfunctional life choices in there.
My excessive sugar consumption (from fruit/dairy, BTW) better get down to work, 'cos it's got low-normal blood pressure, very sound blood lipid levels, low inflammation, healthy body weight and darned good fitness to overcome.10 -
Nony_Mouse wrote: »
I'm surprised I didn't drop dead from all those refeeds I did in the last few months of last year. I was pushing 300+ grams of carbs a day on weekends, easily over 40% of my cals. And yet here I am, slim, healthy (other than eczema and hay fever, which have no connection to carb or sugar intake, might have tested that one already...), perfect blood work (including A1C). I are special snowflake? Special Snowflake... lol
I am pushing about 250-275 a day right now daily, maintaining weight, feel great, stamina to do lots of exercise and I will be 50 veeeeerrry soon.
I ran 10 miles today (training run this morning), I wonder if carbs had anything to do with that???
I pay so little attention to my carb intake (and none to sugar). So long as I'm hitting my protein and fat goals (and please note bro guy that fat is far from low), I honestly don't care where the rest of the cals fall, other than enough carbs to fuel activity and that's usually going to be over 30%. When the damn weather cools down enough to start running again, it will be higher. I am seriously perplexed as to why healthy, non-diabetic individuals should be remotely scared of carbohydrates. Did we get any sources on that yet?
(secretly waiting for Bro Dude to make outrageous claims about how people in the Palaeolithic ate...)4 -
Well, mayo is mostly fat, soooo.....VintageFeline wrote: »diannethegeek wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »thus the Original OPs post was average - what you are talking about are statistical outliers - in general people who eat less carbs - NOT no Carbs but less carbs - will on average be healthier - 40% is too high - the FDA has us eating 75% of our diet Grains Fruit and veg...... too much sugar under those percentages
Tell me, if my protein is adequate, fat adequate, micros being met, what actual, quantifiable harm is the sugar doing to me however I'm eating it?
Inflammation of soft tissue - Insulin sensitivity (High A1C numbers) - heart disease, peripheral neuropathy for starters
Evidence for this? And not one of the spurious links you've already provided.
here is one https://www.webmd.com/diabetes/peripheral-neuropathy-risk-factors-symptoms#1
This article (which is not the same as a study) is about people with diabetes. Do you have any evidence of this being a concern for the majority of the healthy population, or are we talking about those dreaded outliers again?
and pre-diabetic Hig A1C numbers - 40% carbs is too high ---- and will lead to long term inflamation
I am neither diabetic nor pre-diabetic. Carbs and I are good.
Again, A STUDY, an actual link to an actual study, not an article, not you shouting MAYO or anything else.
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Tacklewasher wrote: »Nony_Mouse wrote: »
I'm surprised I didn't drop dead from all those refeeds I did in the last few months of last year. I was pushing 300+ grams of carbs a day on weekends, easily over 40% of my cals. And yet here I am, slim, healthy (other than eczema and hay fever, which have no connection to carb or sugar intake, might have tested that one already...), perfect blood work (including A1C). I are special snowflake?
Not sure what others think, but I think you're pretty special.....
Aw, thanks
(I'm just going to assume you mean in a good way!). 0 -
Nony_Mouse wrote: »Nony_Mouse wrote: »
I'm surprised I didn't drop dead from all those refeeds I did in the last few months of last year. I was pushing 300+ grams of carbs a day on weekends, easily over 40% of my cals. And yet here I am, slim, healthy (other than eczema and hay fever, which have no connection to carb or sugar intake, might have tested that one already...), perfect blood work (including A1C). I are special snowflake? Special Snowflake... lol
I am pushing about 250-275 a day right now daily, maintaining weight, feel great, stamina to do lots of exercise and I will be 50 veeeeerrry soon.
I ran 10 miles today (training run this morning), I wonder if carbs had anything to do with that???
I pay so little attention to my carb intake (and none to sugar). So long as I'm hitting my protein and fat goals (and please note bro guy that fat is far from low), I honestly don't care where the rest of the cals fall, other than enough carbs to fuel activity and that's usually going to be over 30%. When the damn weather cools down enough to start running again, it will be higher. I am seriously perplexed as to why healthy, non-diabetic individuals should be remotely scared of carbohydrates. Did we get any sources on that yet?
(secretly waiting for Bro Dude to make outrageous claims about how people in the Palaeolithic ate...)
Please! Please! Please! I'll even throw in some cherries on top!!!!!!!!!!2 -
This article (still not a study but at least it includes some) says there's not weight loss difference, the Mediterranean diet is good (that damn pasta again), and a high veggie diet is preferable. I'm very confused about which points this is backing up or refuting.7 -
estherdragonbat wrote: »Having kasha with roasted sweet potatoes and peas for dinner. According to the recipe builder, that's 92 grams of carby goodness right there (Including 12g fibre and 15g sugar). I will enjoy every luscious carb, plus the 16 grams of protein, 8 grams of fat, 32% of my potassium RDA, 18% of my iron RDA and enough Vitamin A to give me superpowers*.
*According to the recipe builder, it's 630% of the RDA
Just finished my breakfast/lunch. 66g of carbs (along with 67g protein and 16g fat). And I ain't even skeered. Come at me, bro.2 -
Nony_Mouse wrote: »Nony_Mouse wrote: »
I'm surprised I didn't drop dead from all those refeeds I did in the last few months of last year. I was pushing 300+ grams of carbs a day on weekends, easily over 40% of my cals. And yet here I am, slim, healthy (other than eczema and hay fever, which have no connection to carb or sugar intake, might have tested that one already...), perfect blood work (including A1C). I are special snowflake? Special Snowflake... lol
I am pushing about 250-275 a day right now daily, maintaining weight, feel great, stamina to do lots of exercise and I will be 50 veeeeerrry soon.
I ran 10 miles today (training run this morning), I wonder if carbs had anything to do with that???
I pay so little attention to my carb intake (and none to sugar). So long as I'm hitting my protein and fat goals (and please note bro guy that fat is far from low), I honestly don't care where the rest of the cals fall, other than enough carbs to fuel activity and that's usually going to be over 30%. When the damn weather cools down enough to start running again, it will be higher. I am seriously perplexed as to why healthy, non-diabetic individuals should be remotely scared of carbohydrates. Did we get any sources on that yet?
(secretly waiting for Bro Dude to make outrageous claims about how people in the Palaeolithic ate...)
I have been quietly waiting for this with my tagging finger at the ready.4 -
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VintageFeline wrote: »Nony_Mouse wrote: »Nony_Mouse wrote: »
I'm surprised I didn't drop dead from all those refeeds I did in the last few months of last year. I was pushing 300+ grams of carbs a day on weekends, easily over 40% of my cals. And yet here I am, slim, healthy (other than eczema and hay fever, which have no connection to carb or sugar intake, might have tested that one already...), perfect blood work (including A1C). I are special snowflake? Special Snowflake... lol
I am pushing about 250-275 a day right now daily, maintaining weight, feel great, stamina to do lots of exercise and I will be 50 veeeeerrry soon.
I ran 10 miles today (training run this morning), I wonder if carbs had anything to do with that???
I pay so little attention to my carb intake (and none to sugar). So long as I'm hitting my protein and fat goals (and please note bro guy that fat is far from low), I honestly don't care where the rest of the cals fall, other than enough carbs to fuel activity and that's usually going to be over 30%. When the damn weather cools down enough to start running again, it will be higher. I am seriously perplexed as to why healthy, non-diabetic individuals should be remotely scared of carbohydrates. Did we get any sources on that yet?
(secretly waiting for Bro Dude to make outrageous claims about how people in the Palaeolithic ate...)
I have been quietly waiting for this with my tagging finger at the ready.
Me too. So much so.0 -
Nony_Mouse wrote: »Nony_Mouse wrote: »
I'm surprised I didn't drop dead from all those refeeds I did in the last few months of last year. I was pushing 300+ grams of carbs a day on weekends, easily over 40% of my cals. And yet here I am, slim, healthy (other than eczema and hay fever, which have no connection to carb or sugar intake, might have tested that one already...), perfect blood work (including A1C). I are special snowflake? Special Snowflake... lol
I am pushing about 250-275 a day right now daily, maintaining weight, feel great, stamina to do lots of exercise and I will be 50 veeeeerrry soon.
I ran 10 miles today (training run this morning), I wonder if carbs had anything to do with that???
I pay so little attention to my carb intake (and none to sugar). So long as I'm hitting my protein and fat goals (and please note bro guy that fat is far from low), I honestly don't care where the rest of the cals fall, other than enough carbs to fuel activity and that's usually going to be over 30%. When the damn weather cools down enough to start running again, it will be higher. I am seriously perplexed as to why healthy, non-diabetic individuals should be remotely scared of carbohydrates. Did we get any sources on that yet?
(secretly waiting for Bro Dude to make outrageous claims about how people in the Palaeolithic ate...)
I have seen no resources on non-diabetic. Did bro guy leave the building?
I too concentrate on protein and fat first. I NEED dietary fat for hormonal balance at my age. Protein is essential to for my exercise (lifting and now running back into my schedule). I let the carbs fall too. And I chose good sources, but I also enjoy a good dessert every night as well. :laugh:
If I had to eat 40% protein and 40% fat I would not feel like eating too much of anything else really.
And today is the only nice day this week to be outside. Winter has killed my outdoor running, treadmills are the worst for training. So I have to take it when it comes, I went into work later so I could run, but don't tell anyone. lol2 -
Nony_Mouse wrote: »Nony_Mouse wrote: »
I'm surprised I didn't drop dead from all those refeeds I did in the last few months of last year. I was pushing 300+ grams of carbs a day on weekends, easily over 40% of my cals. And yet here I am, slim, healthy (other than eczema and hay fever, which have no connection to carb or sugar intake, might have tested that one already...), perfect blood work (including A1C). I are special snowflake? Special Snowflake... lol
I am pushing about 250-275 a day right now daily, maintaining weight, feel great, stamina to do lots of exercise and I will be 50 veeeeerrry soon.
I ran 10 miles today (training run this morning), I wonder if carbs had anything to do with that???
I pay so little attention to my carb intake (and none to sugar). So long as I'm hitting my protein and fat goals (and please note bro guy that fat is far from low), I honestly don't care where the rest of the cals fall, other than enough carbs to fuel activity and that's usually going to be over 30%. When the damn weather cools down enough to start running again, it will be higher. I am seriously perplexed as to why healthy, non-diabetic individuals should be remotely scared of carbohydrates. Did we get any sources on that yet?
(secretly waiting for Bro Dude to make outrageous claims about how people in the Palaeolithic ate...)
I have seen no resources on non-diabetic. Did bro guy leave the building?
I too concentrate on protein and fat first. I NEED dietary fat for hormonal balance at my age. Protein is essential to for my exercise (lifting and now running back into my schedule). I let the carbs fall too. And I chose good sources, but I also enjoy a good dessert every night as well. :laugh:
If I had to eat 40% protein and 40% fat I would not feel like eating too much of anything else really.
And today is the only nice day this week to be outside. Winter has killed my outdoor running, treadmills are the worst for training. So I have to take it when it comes, I went into work later so I could run, but don't tell anyone. lol
Treadmill training is sadness (for me). I mean, I'm grateful I can still run, but it's so monotonous. We're forecasted to have a nicer day tomorrow so I've been dreaming all day of my long run and feeling the sun on my face.3 -
In the interest of making an on-topic post in this thread: I've realized that I actually "published" my thoughts about "the best diet for overall health and weight loss" right here on MFP:
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10636388/free-customized-personal-weight-loss-eating-plan-not-spam-or-mlm
As far as I can tell via search, no one has linked it in this thread (despite some kind MFPers occasionally giving it endorsements in other threads), so I will therefore shamelessly self-promote . . . on topic.
This one burst into flames so fast, I don't think anyone thought to bring something that logical in.
But now that you reminded me of OP, I'm faced with a conundrum. Which is going to kill me first - the auto-immune diseases I'm sure to get from GMOs accessing my leaky gut? Or the debil sugars riling up my isulins?4
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