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Do diets work?
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Read up on your Newton
Hi! Engineer here! Using exclamations, since you seem to like them so much! I'm quite familiar with Sir Isaac Newton's work! Of course, Newton's work didn't revolve around thermodynamics and energy conservation! He was primarily - although not only - involved in the study of forces and motion!
In fact, the laws of physics - including the laws of thermodynamics - don't just apply to closed systems! They apply to literally everything in the known universe! Probably things in unknown universes, too!38 -
Diets work if you follow them and they create a calorie deficit. It's usually the "follow them" part that makes them fail.7
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Also! My diary is open! I probably eat more calories then most people on this thread! I’m maintaining my weight! I don’t exercise! And I’m 65 I believe that I should be gaining weight eating that many calories!! But I won’t!! Never have ! Why!! Why do sone people of the same sex and same age and same activity level gain weight eating half the calories of me!! I believe it’s the food! Not how much food!!
If we're looking at your diary....why doy you think you'd gain weight? Everyday is basically maintenance, except for one that's close to a 1000 cal deficit..... I also really doubt 2500-2700 is more than most people on this thread too, especially those who are maintaining.12 -
Also! My diary is open! I probably eat more calories then most people on this thread! I’m maintaining my weight! I don’t exercise! And I’m 65 I believe that I should be gaining weight eating that many calories!! But I won’t!! Never have ! Why!! Why do sone people of the same sex and same age and same activity level gain weight eating half the calories of me!! I believe it’s the food! Not how much food!!
If we're looking at your diary....why would you gain weight? Everyday is basically maintenance, except for one that's close to a 1000 cal deficit..... I also really doubt 2500-2700 is more than most people on this thread too.
He appears to think we all eat 1200 calories of McDonald's and Twinkies a day. Not so, my friend, not so!19 -
Also! My diary is open! I probably eat more calories then most people on this thread! I’m maintaining my weight! I don’t exercise! And I’m 65 I believe that I should be gaining weight eating that many calories!! But I won’t!! Never have ! Why!! Why do sone people of the same sex and same age and same activity level gain weight eating half the calories of me!! I believe it’s the food! Not how much food!!
If we're looking at your diary....why would you gain weight? Everyday is basically maintenance, except for one that's close to a 1000 cal deficit..... I also really doubt 2500-2700 is more than most people on this thread too.
He appears to think we all eat 1200 calories of McDonald's and Twinkies a day. Not so, my friend, not so!
Yep, I am averaging around 2200 per day gross and losing 1lb per week.5 -
Look at the populations in Asia! They don’t have to go on starvation diets! It’s because of what they have been eating all their lives! And not eating! Lots of rice and vegetable and fruit! And what their not eating is lots of meat and dairy! Having to loose so much weight means that you knowingly new you were going to gain weight by eating to much and did it anyway! I don’t believe that!! You just didn’t know better because in this country we eat a bad diet!! We should eat like the poor people of china! Not like the poor people of the USA! The poor here eat fatty fast food because their to busy working 2 jobs to pay the rent! Or are in food deserts it’s not your fault that you gained so much weight! You got bad advise from people only looking out for big corporations like McDonald’s saying it’s okay to eat bad food as long as you eat it in moderation!! The department of agriculture isn’t looking out for you !! Their looking out for McDonald’s! Or they would tell you that tge food their selling you is not healthy at all!! Not even in moderation!!
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Look at the populations in Asia! They don’t have to go on starvation diets! It’s because of what they have been eating all their lives! And not eating! Lots of rice and vegetable and fruit! And what their not eating is lots of meat and dairy! Having to loose so much weight means that you knowingly new you were going to gain weight by eating to much and did it anyway! I don’t believe that!! You just didn’t know better because in this country we eat a bad diet!! We should eat like the poor people of china! Not like the poor people of the USA! The poor here eat fatty fast food because their to busy working 2 jobs to pay the rent! Or are in food deserts it’s not your fault that you gained so much weight! You got bad advise from people only looking out for big corporations like McDonald’s saying it’s okay to eat bad food as long as you eat it in moderation!! The department of agriculture isn’t looking out for you !! Their looking out for McDonald’s! Or they would tell you that tge food their selling you is not healthy at all!! Not even in moderation!!
What do you know about Asian diets? Let me guess, you watched "Forks Over Knives" and think it's science, didn't you? You know, it's a lot of countries and cultures and not some small homogenous village. The Chinese you speak of not only eat differently they live and work differently, or did you miss that fact? They are far more active on average and get more exercise than most Americans do but you ignore these facts because it doesn't fit with your tirade against "diet and exercise".
Sorry, but you are preaching a quasi-religious faith here of orthorexia not anything based on science.14 -
The laws of physics that you refer to was in a closed environment!! We are not that
Please explain how an open system vs closed system differs here and what that specifically means for energy balance. There are certainly difference between open and closed systems but I question whether you know what this actually means.8 -
Also! My diary is open! I probably eat more calories then most people on this thread! I’m maintaining my weight! I don’t exercise! And I’m 65 I believe that I should be gaining weight eating that many calories!! But I won’t!! Never have ! Why!! Why do sone people of the same sex and same age and same activity level gain weight eating half the calories of me!! I believe it’s the food! Not how much food!!
No, you don't eat that much, and age doesn't slow your BMR that much. Your maintenance is my cutting intake and there we have people of similar characteristics here that eat more than you without gaining. You really need to do some research because it's obvious that you have a lot of misconceptions.10 -
Also! My diary is open! I probably eat more calories then most people on this thread! I’m maintaining my weight! I don’t exercise! And I’m 65 I believe that I should be gaining weight eating that many calories!! But I won’t!! Never have ! Why!! Why do sone people of the same sex and same age and same activity level gain weight eating half the calories of me!! I believe it’s the food! Not how much food!!
If we're looking at your diary....why doy you think you'd gain weight? Everyday is basically maintenance, except for one that's close to a 1000 cal deficit..... I also really doubt 2500-2700 is more than most people on this thread too, especially those who are maintaining.
Why would he keep a food diary if calories don't matter?14 -
Also! My diary is open! I probably eat more calories then most people on this thread! I’m maintaining my weight! I don’t exercise! And I’m 65 I believe that I should be gaining weight eating that many calories!! But I won’t!! Never have ! Why!! Why do sone people of the same sex and same age and same activity level gain weight eating half the calories of me!! I believe it’s the food! Not how much food!!
If we're looking at your diary....why doy you think you'd gain weight? Everyday is basically maintenance, except for one that's close to a 1000 cal deficit..... I also really doubt 2500-2700 is more than most people on this thread too, especially those who are maintaining.
Why would he keep a food diary if calories don't matter?
To be fair, there are people on here who use MFP to track macros, but don't look at calories.
Not sure if that is what this guy is doing, but it's possible.6 -
Irishman1970 wrote: »Diets don't work because you can go ff them - you need to approach life as a fitness journey not as a diet - a diet is something you go on and off of - Fitness is a lifestyle - much harder to say I am going to stop being fit - alot easier to say i am going off my diet
So are you in the calories don't matter camp too? Because that is what the OP is trying to argue. Noone is saying it's not a lifestyle change, he is claiming that it's what you eat not how much you eat, so apparently we can all eat as much raw vegan food as we like and we'll never gain weight.6 -
Irishman1970 wrote: »LOL whoever jsut woo'd me BAHAHAHAHAH - you woo'd chicken breast over a 6 dollar burger for a diet
We woo'd that those are the only choices.25 -
It's all about dose and context dude. To post 2 random pics out of context is ridiculous.21
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But who wants to eat four chicken breasts? Ugh. Why can't I have a chicken breast with a salad on Monday and cheeseburger on Tuesday?
If your calories are on point, you don't need to eat like some clean-eating saint every day. You can make yummy stuff fit sometimes.23
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