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Do diets work?
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Irishman1970 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »Irishman1970 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »Irishman1970 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »
at least 1400 - the fries alone are 600-700
Totally do-able.
yep but not as a staple of your fitness
My fitness looks about like this. I think I'm fine.
looks do not equate to fitness - many bodybuilders out there who are far from fit
I find it somewhat hilarious that you keep referring to diet (specifically the types of foods) and fitness. Fitness has jack to do with what, exactly, you eat. Rather, it's how much you eat and your physical capabilities.10 -
Irishman1970 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »Irishman1970 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »Irishman1970 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »
at least 1400 - the fries alone are 600-700
Totally do-able.
yep but not as a staple of your fitness
My fitness looks about like this. I think I'm fine.
looks do not equate to fitness - many bodybuilders out there who are far from fit
May I have your calories? You are clearly wasting them.12 -
Look at the populations in Asia! They don’t have to go on starvation diets! It’s because of what they have been eating all their lives! And not eating! Lots of rice and vegetable and fruit! And what their not eating is lots of meat and dairy! Having to loose so much weight means that you knowingly new you were going to gain weight by eating to much and did it anyway! I don’t believe that!! You just didn’t know better because in this country we eat a bad diet!! We should eat like the poor people of china! Not like the poor people of the USA! The poor here eat fatty fast food because their to busy working 2 jobs to pay the rent! Or are in food deserts it’s not your fault that you gained so much weight! You got bad advise from people only looking out for big corporations like McDonald’s saying it’s okay to eat bad food as long as you eat it in moderation!! The department of agriculture isn’t looking out for you !! Their looking out for McDonald’s! Or they would tell you that tge food their selling you is not healthy at all!! Not even in moderation!!
Who said anything about starvation diets?0 -
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Irishman1970 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »Irishman1970 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »Irishman1970 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »
at least 1400 - the fries alone are 600-700
Totally do-able.
yep but not as a staple of your fitness
My fitness looks about like this. I think I'm fine.
looks do not equate to fitness - many bodybuilders out there who are far from fit
Posting does not equate to having a point - many posters out there who fail to follow the Socratic method.22 -
Irishman1970 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »Irishman1970 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »Irishman1970 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »Irishman1970 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »
at least 1400 - the fries alone are 600-700
Totally do-able.
yep but not as a staple of your fitness
My fitness looks about like this. I think I'm fine.
looks do not equate to fitness - many bodybuilders out there who are far from fit
Well, it is definitely better than before. (Before pic.) I hold a state record in deadlift now, can knock out pull-ups, etc.
You're throwing a lot of shade. What are your qualifications?
agreed and excellent for you - I just know many people who look fit but are NOT fit - yeah they could grace the cover a a magazine but can't run a mile in under 12 minutes - people who can lift a truck but can barely get up a flight of stairs - people who look great and run forever but their blood work is *kitten* because of their diet - so yeah looks do not necessarily equate to fitness
I call BS. Again, what are your qualifications?
ETA: Look what I found on someone's profile page. Care to make your food diary public, @Irishman1970?!?
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Irishman1970 wrote: »Irishman1970 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »Irishman1970 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »Irishman1970 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »
at least 1400 - the fries alone are 600-700
Totally do-able.
yep but not as a staple of your fitness
My fitness looks about like this. I think I'm fine.
looks do not equate to fitness - many bodybuilders out there who are far from fit
I find it somewhat hilarious that you keep referring to diet (specifically the types of foods) and fitness. Fitness has jack to do with what, exactly, you eat. Rather, it's how much you eat and your physical capabilities.
LMAO - did you just say fitness has nothing to do with what you eat?
You may want to reread what I posted. But, basically, by the actual definition of fitness.6 -
Irishman1970 wrote: »Irishman1970 wrote: »crabbybrianna wrote: »DJ_Skywalker wrote: »I had eggs, cheese, bacon and sausage for brekky with heavy whipping crème in my coffee. I will have a triple bacon cheeseburger after the gym. If I am gonna die soon, I am gonna die happy x
Probably happier than if you had eaten plain grilled chicken breasts and an egg white omelette. Sounds like pure sadness.
Its more sad you equate food with happiness
It's sad that you are criticizing a stranger for doing what works for them. Who are you or anyone to judge someone else.
It sucks to watch someone try so hard to run up hill with a 50 pound rock dragging behind them when all they need to do and cut the rope and they will be much more successful
Actually, thanks to having SHED a 100-lb rock, I can run up that hill where as before, I was wheezing and struggling. And I shed that rock with a predominantly healthy diet that incorporated some treats, some processed foods, a lot of fruits, veggies, grains, etc... But the only real restriction I imposed was keeping my home-baked desserts to 200 calories/portion or fewer.15 -
Irishman1970 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »Irishman1970 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »Irishman1970 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »
at least 1400 - the fries alone are 600-700
Totally do-able.
yep but not as a staple of your fitness
My fitness looks about like this. I think I'm fine.
looks do not equate to fitness - many bodybuilders out there who are far from fit
I find it somewhat hilarious that you keep referring to diet (specifically the types of foods) and fitness. Fitness has jack to do with what, exactly, you eat. Rather, it's how much you eat and your physical capabilities.
Irish70 seems to be playing both sides of the discussion now.
There are plenty of people who are fit and don't look it, and plenty of people who look fit and aren't.
Rippetoe, Big Z, etc
Pick a bodybuilder4 -
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Irishman1970 wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »Irishman1970 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »Irishman1970 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »Irishman1970 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »
at least 1400 - the fries alone are 600-700
Totally do-able.
yep but not as a staple of your fitness
My fitness looks about like this. I think I'm fine.
looks do not equate to fitness - many bodybuilders out there who are far from fit
I find it somewhat hilarious that you keep referring to diet (specifically the types of foods) and fitness. Fitness has jack to do with what, exactly, you eat. Rather, it's how much you eat and your physical capabilities.
Irish70 seems to be playing both sides of the discussion now.
There are plenty of people who are fit and don't look it, and plenty of people who look fit and aren't.
Rippetoe, Big Z, etc
Pick a bodybuilder
nope just one side There are plenty of people who look fit and aren't.
And again - what is your definition of fit?4 -
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Irishman1970 wrote: »estherdragonbat wrote: »Irishman1970 wrote: »Irishman1970 wrote: »crabbybrianna wrote: »DJ_Skywalker wrote: »I had eggs, cheese, bacon and sausage for brekky with heavy whipping crème in my coffee. I will have a triple bacon cheeseburger after the gym. If I am gonna die soon, I am gonna die happy x
Probably happier than if you had eaten plain grilled chicken breasts and an egg white omelette. Sounds like pure sadness.
Its more sad you equate food with happiness
It's sad that you are criticizing a stranger for doing what works for them. Who are you or anyone to judge someone else.
It sucks to watch someone try so hard to run up hill with a 50 pound rock dragging behind them when all they need to do and cut the rope and they will be much more successful
Actually, thanks to having SHED a 100-lb rock, I can run up that hill where as before, I was wheezing and struggling. And I shed that rock with a predominantly healthy diet that incorporated some treats, some processed foods, a lot of fruits, veggies, grains, etc... But the only real restriction I imposed was keeping my home-baked desserts to 200 calories/portion or fewer.
so your primary source of food was what most would say healthy food - with occasional treat - yep that is fitness NOT a diet - something you can stick to and something you won't go off of
This is from your profile, right?!? Care to make your food diary public?
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If we define occasional as 4-6 times/week... sure.12
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Irishman1970 wrote: »too funny to watch people here defend eating crap as long as its in the calorie context
Why is it funny? I have lost 135 lbs eating "crap"12 -
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Irishman1970 wrote: »estherdragonbat wrote: »Irishman1970 wrote: »Irishman1970 wrote: »crabbybrianna wrote: »DJ_Skywalker wrote: »I had eggs, cheese, bacon and sausage for brekky with heavy whipping crème in my coffee. I will have a triple bacon cheeseburger after the gym. If I am gonna die soon, I am gonna die happy x
Probably happier than if you had eaten plain grilled chicken breasts and an egg white omelette. Sounds like pure sadness.
Its more sad you equate food with happiness
It's sad that you are criticizing a stranger for doing what works for them. Who are you or anyone to judge someone else.
It sucks to watch someone try so hard to run up hill with a 50 pound rock dragging behind them when all they need to do and cut the rope and they will be much more successful
Actually, thanks to having SHED a 100-lb rock, I can run up that hill where as before, I was wheezing and struggling. And I shed that rock with a predominantly healthy diet that incorporated some treats, some processed foods, a lot of fruits, veggies, grains, etc... But the only real restriction I imposed was keeping my home-baked desserts to 200 calories/portion or fewer.
so your primary source of food was what most would say healthy food - with occasional treat - yep that is fitness NOT a diet - something you can stick to and something you won't go off of
I'm getting lost now. Eating healthy is fitness/retention? And eating "junk" is dieting?10 -
Irishman1970 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »Irishman1970 wrote: »estherdragonbat wrote: »Irishman1970 wrote: »Irishman1970 wrote: »crabbybrianna wrote: »DJ_Skywalker wrote: »I had eggs, cheese, bacon and sausage for brekky with heavy whipping crème in my coffee. I will have a triple bacon cheeseburger after the gym. If I am gonna die soon, I am gonna die happy x
Probably happier than if you had eaten plain grilled chicken breasts and an egg white omelette. Sounds like pure sadness.
Its more sad you equate food with happiness
It's sad that you are criticizing a stranger for doing what works for them. Who are you or anyone to judge someone else.
It sucks to watch someone try so hard to run up hill with a 50 pound rock dragging behind them when all they need to do and cut the rope and they will be much more successful
Actually, thanks to having SHED a 100-lb rock, I can run up that hill where as before, I was wheezing and struggling. And I shed that rock with a predominantly healthy diet that incorporated some treats, some processed foods, a lot of fruits, veggies, grains, etc... But the only real restriction I imposed was keeping my home-baked desserts to 200 calories/portion or fewer.
so your primary source of food was what most would say healthy food - with occasional treat - yep that is fitness NOT a diet - something you can stick to and something you won't go off of
This is from your profile, right?!?
Occasional YEP - maybe once or twice a month - but 95% of the time I am where i am
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Irishman1970 wrote: »But who wants to eat four chicken breasts? Ugh. Why can't I have a chicken breast with a salad on Monday and cheeseburger on Tuesday?
If your calories are on point, you don't need to eat like some clean-eating saint every day. You can make yummy stuff fit.
1 burger (1 burger) is 50% of your calories for the day and its *kitten* food - then you are are wondering why you have cravings? and you start to binge at 9pm
THAT is why diets don;t work
I have a bacon cheeseburger yesterday, and still stayed within my calories, with no cravings or bingeing. You are not making any sense.9 -
To help you out
Webster:
Definition of fitness
1 : the quality or state of being fit
2 : the capacity of an organism to survive and transmit its genotype to reproductive offspring as compared to competing organisms; also : the contribution of an allele or genotype to the gene pool of subsequent generations as compared to that of other alleles or genotypes
Diet:
Definition of diet
1 a : food and drink regularly provided or consumed a diet of fruits and vegetables a vegetarian diet
b : habitual nourishment links between diet and disease
c : the kind and amount of food prescribed for a person or animal for a special reason was put on a low-sodium diet
d : a regimen of eating and drinking sparingly so as to reduce one's weight going on a diet
2 : something provided or experienced repeatedly
Their imaginations feverish from a diet of detective novels …—The New Yorker
heard a steady diet of excuses
stop trying to conflate the two because they are not the same.14 -
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Irishman1970 wrote: »
Actually today's engines are built to run on regular and show no increase in stability or performance from a higher grade of fuel...21 -
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Phew! Did he hang up?14
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DJ_Skywalker wrote: »Phew! Did he hang up?
Without sharing his qualifications or opening his food diary.
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Irishman1970 wrote: »Alright people - you fill yourselves with Cheeseburgers and i will fill my self with chicken breast and salad and we will see which one makes it to the top of the mountain first - my god its not rocket science
Ok, so basically, if I eat 5000 calories of your 'healthy' foods every day (and gain a ton of weight in the process), then I will be more fit than the person who eats junk and loses all of the extra weight?15 -
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