What's the best diet or fitness advice you've ever heard?
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abbynormal52 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »jefamer2017 wrote: »jefamer2017 wrote: »jefamer2017 wrote: »jefamer2017 wrote: »k8andchr1smom wrote: »k8andchr1smom wrote: »Silentpadna wrote: »
It makes sense. 250 calories of protein and salad is more nourishing thank 250 of crap
Not sure why I got "woo'd" here.
People on here don't believe in nutrition. It's all CICO.
Edit: I just got woo'd enough to bring my count up to 100. Almost all my woos are when I bring up nutrition. Ha ha ha. These people are fun.
No. "People on here" (at least some people) are intelligent enough to realize that they're two separate topics and the issues are contextual.
Yes they are 2 separate issues. However, every time someone mentions that a salad is better for you than a twinkie. (Or something similar) people start arguing saying no it's all about CICO. We know to lose weight is CICO. This is myfitnesspal not myweightlosspal. It is better for your overall health to eat nutritious food. It is also a hell of a lot easier to stay within calorie range when you eat "good" food instead of "bad" food.
^ Typical binary thinking. Completely ignores context and dosage.
Example #1 - ask a marathon runner at mile 21, or a Tour de France rider approaching the end of a stage, if they'd prefer a handful of Skittles or a bowl of organic kale.
Not even the point. The point was when mentioning nutrition in any of these forums people act like nutrition isn't important.
There are "people" who say you can lose weight while in a caloric surplus on keto/IF; there are "people" who say apple cider vinegar will melt the fat off your body; there are "people" who think eating 500 calories a day is a good idea.
People who understand the big picture understand that nutrition is important for a lot of reasons. But speaking purely in terms of weight loss, it's irrelevant. And people who understand the big picture also understand that context and dosage matter a great deal when speaking of nutrition.
Like I said earlier this is myfitnesspal not myweightlosspal. Why do people always want to act as though nutrition isn't important.
I've never seen a single thread that has said that. Can you link one?
Just the lack of discussions on healthy nutrition is the proof. I mentioned TDEE, and eating enough the other day on a thread and not one response. It could be for a lot of reasons there was no response, I realize, but could it also be no one wanted to look at that aspect of fitness?
I haven't read everything on this thread I admit, and different people have a different take on healthy nutrition. I'm just saying that I think that is more what the person you replied to is talking about, I could be wrong of course.
Also, don't you have more than 100 responses now to your thread asking for tips on meeting your nutritional needs on a budget?9 -
We're not talking about the same thread, I think you are talking about my thread. Yes, I had a lot of good nutrition suggestions. But on the whole, if we compared, I wonder how many people are talking about good nutrition, or not? Even if it's even on the #, I am hoping more will be speaking up on the nutrition side of fitness, healthy nutrition.
PS I don't think I mentioned "healthy nutrition" in the Topic, but I am grateful for the many that went ahead and added that into the discussion;)
Went back and looked, yes I did say healthy, apologies. I am glad it comes so natural for me to mention it now. It didn't used to.0 -
abbynormal52 wrote: »We're not talking about the same thread, I think you are talking about my thread. Yes, I had a lot of good nutrition suggestions. But on the whole, if we compared, I wonder how many people are talking about good nutrition, or not? Even if it's even on the #, I am hoping more will be speaking up on the nutrition side of fitness, healthy nutrition.
Yes, I'm saying I find it odd that you're saying there is a lack of discussion on the subject when you currently have an active thread going where people are discussing that very subject. I think lots of people are talking about nutrition here.5 -
jefamer2017 wrote: »For instance someone asked for meal ideas for weight loss. Not one person gave her any meals they just said eat whatever you want as long as it's within your calorie goals. That's crap advice. She asked for meal ideas. If she eats a donut for breakfast because it fits her calories then she'll be starving before lunch.
And once again, the title and main subject of that thread was "meals for WEIGHT LOSS". Not meals for adequate nutrition, or a specific question about how to increase intake of a certain macro- or micronutrient, or timing meals around workout performance, or for optimal body composition. Not saying she ate donuts for breakfast and asking if that was okay. Not saying she was suffering from malnutrition and asking how to fix it. The specific topic was WEIGHT LOSS.
WEIGHT LOSS happens by consuming less calories than you expend. Which was exactly the advice repeatedly given to her. Because the title and main subject of that thread was "meals for WEIGHT LOSS". And there are no specific meals for WEIGHT LOSS. Speaking purely in terms of WEIGHT LOSS, you can eat whatever you want as long as you're creating a calorie deficit. That's an established scientific fact.
Personally, I don't usually even respond to threads like that because 1) It's a waste of time to suggest a bunch of different meals without knowing somebody's preferences, dietary restrictions, etc., and 2) There are people called 'nutritionists' who make meal plans for people. And they get paid for it. If I were to offer advice to such a generic question, it would be a generic answer - very similar to many of the answers she got.17 -
quiksylver296 wrote: »abbynormal52 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »jefamer2017 wrote: »jefamer2017 wrote: »jefamer2017 wrote: »jefamer2017 wrote: »k8andchr1smom wrote: »k8andchr1smom wrote: »Silentpadna wrote: »
It makes sense. 250 calories of protein and salad is more nourishing thank 250 of crap
Not sure why I got "woo'd" here.
People on here don't believe in nutrition. It's all CICO.
Edit: I just got woo'd enough to bring my count up to 100. Almost all my woos are when I bring up nutrition. Ha ha ha. These people are fun.
No. "People on here" (at least some people) are intelligent enough to realize that they're two separate topics and the issues are contextual.
Yes they are 2 separate issues. However, every time someone mentions that a salad is better for you than a twinkie. (Or something similar) people start arguing saying no it's all about CICO. We know to lose weight is CICO. This is myfitnesspal not myweightlosspal. It is better for your overall health to eat nutritious food. It is also a hell of a lot easier to stay within calorie range when you eat "good" food instead of "bad" food.
^ Typical binary thinking. Completely ignores context and dosage.
Example #1 - ask a marathon runner at mile 21, or a Tour de France rider approaching the end of a stage, if they'd prefer a handful of Skittles or a bowl of organic kale.
Not even the point. The point was when mentioning nutrition in any of these forums people act like nutrition isn't important.
There are "people" who say you can lose weight while in a caloric surplus on keto/IF; there are "people" who say apple cider vinegar will melt the fat off your body; there are "people" who think eating 500 calories a day is a good idea.
People who understand the big picture understand that nutrition is important for a lot of reasons. But speaking purely in terms of weight loss, it's irrelevant. And people who understand the big picture also understand that context and dosage matter a great deal when speaking of nutrition.
Like I said earlier this is myfitnesspal not myweightlosspal. Why do people always want to act as though nutrition isn't important.
I've never seen a single thread that has said that. Can you link one?
Just the lack of discussions on healthy nutrition is the proof. I mentioned TDEE, and eating enough the other day on a thread and not one response. It could be for a lot of reasons there was no response, I realize, but could it also be no one wanted to look at that aspect of fitness?
I haven't read everything on this thread I admit, and different people have a different take on healthy nutrition. I'm just saying that I think that is more what the person you replied to is talking about, I could be wrong of course.
I doubt it. Your thread probably got buried under a bunch of others and no one ever saw it.
I've discussed/responded to questions about TDEE and nutrition on this site a lot. My almost 18,000 posts aren't from ChitChat.
I worded that all wrong, I am sorry, truly. I just believe there is more discussions on things besides nutrition when it comes to weight-loss/fitness. The whole thing for me is knowing the healthy way to lose, and some still stuck in that rut of eat til you're starving to lose weight. I took what it took to get me to take a good look at some facts, so I have to realize the same has to be true for others.
I'm just going to say here that I am darn grateful to those that speak up about the importance of healthy nutrition, whenever they can.
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janejellyroll wrote: »abbynormal52 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »jefamer2017 wrote: »jefamer2017 wrote: »jefamer2017 wrote: »jefamer2017 wrote: »k8andchr1smom wrote: »k8andchr1smom wrote: »Silentpadna wrote: »
It makes sense. 250 calories of protein and salad is more nourishing thank 250 of crap
Not sure why I got "woo'd" here.
People on here don't believe in nutrition. It's all CICO.
Edit: I just got woo'd enough to bring my count up to 100. Almost all my woos are when I bring up nutrition. Ha ha ha. These people are fun.
No. "People on here" (at least some people) are intelligent enough to realize that they're two separate topics and the issues are contextual.
Yes they are 2 separate issues. However, every time someone mentions that a salad is better for you than a twinkie. (Or something similar) people start arguing saying no it's all about CICO. We know to lose weight is CICO. This is myfitnesspal not myweightlosspal. It is better for your overall health to eat nutritious food. It is also a hell of a lot easier to stay within calorie range when you eat "good" food instead of "bad" food.
^ Typical binary thinking. Completely ignores context and dosage.
Example #1 - ask a marathon runner at mile 21, or a Tour de France rider approaching the end of a stage, if they'd prefer a handful of Skittles or a bowl of organic kale.
Not even the point. The point was when mentioning nutrition in any of these forums people act like nutrition isn't important.
There are "people" who say you can lose weight while in a caloric surplus on keto/IF; there are "people" who say apple cider vinegar will melt the fat off your body; there are "people" who think eating 500 calories a day is a good idea.
People who understand the big picture understand that nutrition is important for a lot of reasons. But speaking purely in terms of weight loss, it's irrelevant. And people who understand the big picture also understand that context and dosage matter a great deal when speaking of nutrition.
Like I said earlier this is myfitnesspal not myweightlosspal. Why do people always want to act as though nutrition isn't important.
I've never seen a single thread that has said that. Can you link one?
Just the lack of discussions on healthy nutrition is the proof. I mentioned TDEE, and eating enough the other day on a thread and not one response. It could be for a lot of reasons there was no response, I realize, but could it also be no one wanted to look at that aspect of fitness?
I haven't read everything on this thread I admit, and different people have a different take on healthy nutrition. I'm just saying that I think that is more what the person you replied to is talking about, I could be wrong of course.
Have you checked out the "Food and Nutrition" area? Conversations about meeting specific needs can more often be found there.
and here, it's just who is reading them, we can only hope:)
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https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10662786/unhealthy-diet/p1
Here is a great example of why nutrition is important. This is why saying CICO is all that matters for weight loss.4 -
jefamer2017 wrote: »https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10662786/unhealthy-diet/p1
Here is a great example of why nutrition is important. This is why saying CICO is all that matters for weight loss.
That person seems to have a healthy diet and admits to cutting calories too low for awhile. So, not exactly relevant to your point.8 -
If you want to SEE a change, you must MAKE a change7
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concordancia wrote: »jefamer2017 wrote: »https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10662786/unhealthy-diet/p1
Here is a great example of why nutrition is important. This is why saying CICO is all that matters for weight loss.
That person seems to have a healthy diet and admits to cutting calories too low for awhile. So, not exactly relevant to your point.
Read it again in its entirety. She said that she was eating well. Then when she discovered MFP she started eating more foods that were not considered healthy and followed CICO.2 -
jefamer2017 wrote: »https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10662786/unhealthy-diet/p1
Here is a great example of why nutrition is important. This is why saying CICO is all that matters for weight loss.
That thread doesn't say "only CICO" anywhere. :huh:4 -
Here is one of my favorites of all time
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concordancia wrote: »jefamer2017 wrote: »https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10662786/unhealthy-diet/p1
Here is a great example of why nutrition is important. This is why saying CICO is all that matters for weight loss.
That person seems to have a healthy diet and admits to cutting calories too low for awhile. So, not exactly relevant to your point.
"Currently I eat everything I like but I try not to go over my calorie goal, so I eat a lot more "unhealthy" stuff since I started CICO."
Her words.0 -
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quiksylver296 wrote: »jefamer2017 wrote: »https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10662786/unhealthy-diet/p1
Here is a great example of why nutrition is important. This is why saying CICO is all that matters for weight loss.
That thread doesn't say "only CICO" anywhere. :huh:
Currently I eat everything I like but I try not to go over my calorie goal, so I eat a lot more "unhealthy" stuff since I started CICO.
Yes it does.4 -
jefamer2017 wrote: »concordancia wrote: »jefamer2017 wrote: »https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10662786/unhealthy-diet/p1
Here is a great example of why nutrition is important. This is why saying CICO is all that matters for weight loss.
That person seems to have a healthy diet and admits to cutting calories too low for awhile. So, not exactly relevant to your point.
"Currently I eat everything I like but I try not to go over my calorie goal, so I eat a lot more "unhealthy" stuff since I started CICO."
Her words.
More unhealthy stuff, not all unhealthy stuff.
Do you really not see the difference??? :ohwell:5 -
jefamer2017 wrote: »concordancia wrote: »jefamer2017 wrote: »https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10662786/unhealthy-diet/p1
Here is a great example of why nutrition is important. This is why saying CICO is all that matters for weight loss.
That person seems to have a healthy diet and admits to cutting calories too low for awhile. So, not exactly relevant to your point.
"Currently I eat everything I like but I try not to go over my calorie goal, so I eat a lot more "unhealthy" stuff since I started CICO."
Her words.
And just before that she said that she can eat more than she previously thought now that she is weighing, suggesting that the additional "unhealthy" stuff is on top of the vegetables and such.4 -
jefamer2017 wrote: »https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10662786/unhealthy-diet/p1
Here is a great example of why nutrition is important. This is why saying CICO is all that matters for weight loss.
I guess you must have somehow skipped over the posts talking about nutrition. Maybe if I quote one of them it will help you (I'll even bold part of it to make it easier for you):For weight loss, it doesn't matter. A calorie deficit creates weight loss.
For general health and fitness, it absolutely can matter. Nobody here denies that humans have nutritional needs and that failing to meet them can have negative consequences. There is no debate on that.
[ETA:] Maybe a couple more from that thread - again with bold added to help you out:Severe undereating can cause issues like hair loss and irregular TOM. I think too little protein or fat can cause things like hair loss. Me personally I'd go see my dr in case something's cropped up, but I'm also curious to know how much fat and protein you're eating, and what your current calorie intake is. Maybe something there could hold a clue.This. My first thought was fat is to low, or a very low calorie intake.You mention fruits and veggies, but how are your proteins and fats?I don't see ED anywhere based on what you are posting. But things are not working as they should so with small losses precision in what we do for adherence has little wiggle room. That said, small losses will appear to be happening very slowly. If you are eating 1600-1700 (including exercise calories back) then somewhere between exercise cals and your calorie intake logging you may be keeping yourself in and out of a deficit.
With loss of period and side effects you are having, hormonal balance is key through nutrition and the right amount of exercise. Of course any time things of this nature are happening seeing your doctor for some blood work and lab testing should be something you should consider.
Can you open your diary?9 -
jefamer2017 wrote: »https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10662786/unhealthy-diet/p1
Here is a great example of why nutrition is important. This is why saying CICO is all that matters for weight loss.
I guess you must have somehow skipped over the posts talking about nutrition. Maybe if I quote one of them it will help you (I'll even bold part of it to make it easier for you):For weight loss, it doesn't matter. A calorie deficit creates weight loss.
For general health and fitness, it absolutely can matter. Nobody here denies that humans have nutritional needs and that failing to meet them can have negative consequences. There is no debate on that.
All I am saying is people need to quit saying CICO is all that matters and eat what you like. That is terrible advice. They should say you should find a healthy balance incorporate things you like and be mindful of your nutrition. Many people get the wrong ideas when you say to eat whatever as long as it fits your goals.21 -
jefamer2017 wrote: »jefamer2017 wrote: »https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10662786/unhealthy-diet/p1
Here is a great example of why nutrition is important. This is why saying CICO is all that matters for weight loss.
I guess you must have somehow skipped over the posts talking about nutrition. Maybe if I quote one of them it will help you (I'll even bold part of it to make it easier for you):For weight loss, it doesn't matter. A calorie deficit creates weight loss.
For general health and fitness, it absolutely can matter. Nobody here denies that humans have nutritional needs and that failing to meet them can have negative consequences. There is no debate on that.
All I am saying is people need to quit saying CICO is all that matters and eat what you like. That is terrible advice. They should say you should find a healthy balance incorporate things you like and be mindful of your nutrition. Many people get the wrong ideas when you say to eat whatever as long as it fits your goals.
Nobody says this. That's what we've been trying to communicate.
What they do say:
CICO matters for weight loss. Which is true. You can't make weight loss happen any other way.7 -
jefamer2017 wrote: »jefamer2017 wrote: »https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10662786/unhealthy-diet/p1
Here is a great example of why nutrition is important. This is why saying CICO is all that matters for weight loss.
I guess you must have somehow skipped over the posts talking about nutrition. Maybe if I quote one of them it will help you (I'll even bold part of it to make it easier for you):For weight loss, it doesn't matter. A calorie deficit creates weight loss.
For general health and fitness, it absolutely can matter. Nobody here denies that humans have nutritional needs and that failing to meet them can have negative consequences. There is no debate on that.
All I am saying is people need to quit saying CICO is all that matters and eat what you like. That is terrible advice. They should say you should find a healthy balance incorporate things you like and be mindful of your nutrition. Many people get the wrong ideas when you say to eat whatever as long as it fits your goals.
Would your advice be the exact same for a morbidly obese 400-pound person who has suffered from terrible eating habits their entire life as it would be for a bodybuilder at 10% who's trying to cut the last few pounds of bodyfat?
Context matters.8 -
jefamer2017 wrote: »jefamer2017 wrote: »https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10662786/unhealthy-diet/p1
Here is a great example of why nutrition is important. This is why saying CICO is all that matters for weight loss.
I guess you must have somehow skipped over the posts talking about nutrition. Maybe if I quote one of them it will help you (I'll even bold part of it to make it easier for you):For weight loss, it doesn't matter. A calorie deficit creates weight loss.
For general health and fitness, it absolutely can matter. Nobody here denies that humans have nutritional needs and that failing to meet them can have negative consequences. There is no debate on that.
All I am saying is people need to quit saying CICO is all that matters and eat what you like. That is terrible advice. They should say you should find a healthy balance incorporate things you like and be mindful of your nutrition. Many people get the wrong ideas when you say to eat whatever as long as it fits your goals.
Would your advice be the exact same for a morbidly obese 400-pound person who has suffered from terrible eating habits their entire life as it would be for a bodybuilder at 10% who's trying to cut the last few pounds of bodyfat?
Context matters.
Yes, it would be. Eat nutritious food limit food that is considered unhealthy. The calorie count would be different but the type of food would be the same.6 -
jefamer2017 wrote: »jefamer2017 wrote: »jefamer2017 wrote: »https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10662786/unhealthy-diet/p1
Here is a great example of why nutrition is important. This is why saying CICO is all that matters for weight loss.
I guess you must have somehow skipped over the posts talking about nutrition. Maybe if I quote one of them it will help you (I'll even bold part of it to make it easier for you):For weight loss, it doesn't matter. A calorie deficit creates weight loss.
For general health and fitness, it absolutely can matter. Nobody here denies that humans have nutritional needs and that failing to meet them can have negative consequences. There is no debate on that.
All I am saying is people need to quit saying CICO is all that matters and eat what you like. That is terrible advice. They should say you should find a healthy balance incorporate things you like and be mindful of your nutrition. Many people get the wrong ideas when you say to eat whatever as long as it fits your goals.
Would your advice be the exact same for a morbidly obese 400-pound person who has suffered from terrible eating habits their entire life as it would be for a bodybuilder at 10% who's trying to cut the last few pounds of bodyfat?
Context matters.
Yes, it would be. Eat nutritious food limit food that is considered unhealthy. The calorie count would be different but the type of food would be the same.
What foods do you consider unhealthy?2 -
quiksylver296 wrote: »jefamer2017 wrote: »jefamer2017 wrote: »https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10662786/unhealthy-diet/p1
Here is a great example of why nutrition is important. This is why saying CICO is all that matters for weight loss.
I guess you must have somehow skipped over the posts talking about nutrition. Maybe if I quote one of them it will help you (I'll even bold part of it to make it easier for you):For weight loss, it doesn't matter. A calorie deficit creates weight loss.
For general health and fitness, it absolutely can matter. Nobody here denies that humans have nutritional needs and that failing to meet them can have negative consequences. There is no debate on that.
All I am saying is people need to quit saying CICO is all that matters and eat what you like. That is terrible advice. They should say you should find a healthy balance incorporate things you like and be mindful of your nutrition. Many people get the wrong ideas when you say to eat whatever as long as it fits your goals.
Nobody says this. That's what we've been trying to communicate.
What they do say:
CICO matters for weight loss. Which is true. You can't make weight loss happen any other way.
Here is a quote from a user. I just copied.
"Anything you want as long as you meet your calorie goal for the day."
People keep saying this same thing over and over again. It may be worded differently but it's the same.6 -
jefamer2017 wrote: »jefamer2017 wrote: »jefamer2017 wrote: »https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10662786/unhealthy-diet/p1
Here is a great example of why nutrition is important. This is why saying CICO is all that matters for weight loss.
I guess you must have somehow skipped over the posts talking about nutrition. Maybe if I quote one of them it will help you (I'll even bold part of it to make it easier for you):For weight loss, it doesn't matter. A calorie deficit creates weight loss.
For general health and fitness, it absolutely can matter. Nobody here denies that humans have nutritional needs and that failing to meet them can have negative consequences. There is no debate on that.
All I am saying is people need to quit saying CICO is all that matters and eat what you like. That is terrible advice. They should say you should find a healthy balance incorporate things you like and be mindful of your nutrition. Many people get the wrong ideas when you say to eat whatever as long as it fits your goals.
Would your advice be the exact same for a morbidly obese 400-pound person who has suffered from terrible eating habits their entire life as it would be for a bodybuilder at 10% who's trying to cut the last few pounds of bodyfat?
Context matters.
Yes, it would be. Eat nutritious food limit food that is considered unhealthy. The calorie count would be different but the type of food would be the same.
Then your advice is bad. It is more healthy for the morbidly obese person to eat a diet they can stick to and actually lose weight. Losing weight creates more health benefits for them than a few vegetables would.
In that case, the "eat anything you want" argument you keep saying is all over the boards would be true.10 -
jefamer2017 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »jefamer2017 wrote: »jefamer2017 wrote: »https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10662786/unhealthy-diet/p1
Here is a great example of why nutrition is important. This is why saying CICO is all that matters for weight loss.
I guess you must have somehow skipped over the posts talking about nutrition. Maybe if I quote one of them it will help you (I'll even bold part of it to make it easier for you):For weight loss, it doesn't matter. A calorie deficit creates weight loss.
For general health and fitness, it absolutely can matter. Nobody here denies that humans have nutritional needs and that failing to meet them can have negative consequences. There is no debate on that.
All I am saying is people need to quit saying CICO is all that matters and eat what you like. That is terrible advice. They should say you should find a healthy balance incorporate things you like and be mindful of your nutrition. Many people get the wrong ideas when you say to eat whatever as long as it fits your goals.
Nobody says this. That's what we've been trying to communicate.
What they do say:
CICO matters for weight loss. Which is true. You can't make weight loss happen any other way.
Here is a quote from a user. I just copied.
"Anything you want as long as you meet your calorie goal for the day."
From where? Could you link the thread, please?1 -
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Again, ideas for WEIGHT LOSS. The only way to create weight loss is CICO.4
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quiksylver296 wrote: »jefamer2017 wrote: »jefamer2017 wrote: »jefamer2017 wrote: »https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10662786/unhealthy-diet/p1
Here is a great example of why nutrition is important. This is why saying CICO is all that matters for weight loss.
I guess you must have somehow skipped over the posts talking about nutrition. Maybe if I quote one of them it will help you (I'll even bold part of it to make it easier for you):For weight loss, it doesn't matter. A calorie deficit creates weight loss.
For general health and fitness, it absolutely can matter. Nobody here denies that humans have nutritional needs and that failing to meet them can have negative consequences. There is no debate on that.
All I am saying is people need to quit saying CICO is all that matters and eat what you like. That is terrible advice. They should say you should find a healthy balance incorporate things you like and be mindful of your nutrition. Many people get the wrong ideas when you say to eat whatever as long as it fits your goals.
Would your advice be the exact same for a morbidly obese 400-pound person who has suffered from terrible eating habits their entire life as it would be for a bodybuilder at 10% who's trying to cut the last few pounds of bodyfat?
Context matters.
Yes, it would be. Eat nutritious food limit food that is considered unhealthy. The calorie count would be different but the type of food would be the same.
Then your advice is bad. It is more healthy for the morbidly obese person to eat a diet they can stick to and actually lose weight. Losing weight creates more health benefits for them than a few vegetables would.
In that case, the "eat anything you want" argument you keep saying is all over the boards would be true.
That was exactly my point.
And PP said exactly what I figured he/she would say. LOL.3 -
quiksylver296 wrote: »Again, ideas for WEIGHT LOSS. The only way to create weight loss is CICO.
Again, they gave her no ideas. Just the same as long as it fits crap.6
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