July 2018 Running Challenge
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LaDispute57 wrote: »midwesterner85 wrote: »Since it apparently seemed to the psychiatrist that I believed something that he decided wasn't real, he misdiagnosed me with schizophrenia (I'm not making this up) and as having delusions.
Depends on whether the glass is half full or half empty.1 -
@polskagirl01 - I have never run with a friend but when I started out I didn't want to disappoint my trainer and have to tell him I hadn't run. I kept me motivated to get out there and get it done. Now I am my own motivation.
@biketheworld - it is good to add in some intervals and tempo runs to your workouts but remember that you need to run slower as the heat and humidity goes up. @Stoshew71 used to had a percentage slower for every 5 or 10 degree increase but I don't recall offhand what it was.
@midwesterner85 - regarding having one side shorter than the other... you might ask your doctor (Chiropractor or Orthopedist) about orthotics that could be fine tuned to address that. Honestly even a small change might make a difference. My sports Chiro did an analysis of my feet, gait, landing, etc. and sent all the scan information to the company that makes the orthotics and they have worked wonders in so many aspects of how I walk and run. I do take the insole that comes in my running shoes out to be able to put the orthotic in and I always try running shoes on with my orthotics too.
@skippygirlsmom - it is getting hot... we have an agility trial this weekend F-S-S and it is supposed to be 109 on Friday and get progressively hotter. I am hoping we will be finished by noon but there are between 4-500 dogs
entered each day. I should know better than to sign up for one in July/August!
@mbaker566 - My favorite race is the SF Marathon and Half Marathons. I haven't actually run the full marathon but I have run each half at least once. the 1st half you run the Embarcadero around Fisherman's Wharf and out out over the Golden Gate Bridge and back and then along the cliffs above the Pacific ocean just a bit and around to Golden Gate park. The 2nd half starts in and runs through Golden Gate park, through some of the awesome SF neighborhoods, under the Oakland Bay Bridge and back around the other end of the Embarcadero. So if you run both in consecutive years you will have run the full marathon course. I am running it for the 4th time this year.
My torn meniscus is flaring up after I landed wrong in my run on Sunday. I took it pretty slow today but did get in 5 miles with some walking. and a few interruptions... saw a friend I haven't seen for a couple of moths so had to catch up, saw a snake, had my headphones die mid-run, saw that a beloved hawk in our neighborhood had died (half of a nested pair with babies in the nest) and then chased by a neighbor's little dog (grrr).
Date........Miles.......Total
06/01......9.45.......9.45
07/01......7.64.......7.64
07/02......0.00.......7.64
07/03......5.01.....12.65
My completed and upcoming races. Let me know if you will be running them too.
02/04/18 - Surf City Half Marathon
05/05/18 - Cinco de Miles 5k
07/22/18 - San Francisco 2nd Half Marathon
12/15/18 - San Diego Holiday Half Marathon
02/03/19 - Surf City Half Marathon
05/11/19 - Santa Barbara Wine Country Half Marathon4 -
lporter229 wrote: »lporter229 wrote: »@MegaMooseEsq - Congrats on your sub 10 mile!! Your BIL is definitely giving you good advice to avoid the sidewalks. In addition to being a harder surface, they also generally have more trip hazards and sometimes decapitation threats from tree limbs. And I believe the word you are looking for is camber. If you run on the streets or on a loop path, it is also good to run in different directions so that you are not always turning on the same leg. This is more likely to have an impact on your knees, whereas camber is more likely to affect your hips and back. If you run in neighborhoods with cul-de-sacs, alternate the direction in which you turn on every cul-de-sac to help balance out the impact on your knees.
Same goes with cul-de-sacs. Usually these are quiet, low traffic neighborhoods where you can cross the street and change the direction in which you turn around. I have a lot of cul-de-sacs in my neighborhood, so I try to alternate the direction I am turning on each one.
Sorry to be picky but the pleural form is culs-de-sac. Sorry I had to, Thank you Gilmore Girls 😋😋😂
ETA you can tell I work in health care when my phone autocorrects plural to pleural bahaha I'm just going to leave it there and own my mistake, cause I am the worst at grammer and should not be the one correcting people lol6 -
And I just wanted to brag and share this pic, this is where I live. I look forward to summer when the sun will actually be up for my morning runs!
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Camber cul de sac question:
I live on a cul de sac road off a busy highway. I always run the same direction because at the end of the culd de sac I want to be running toward traffic. .
The discussion on camber has be wondering if I should try running the other direction first and not be running toward traffic at the end of the road?
In GENERAL, on PAPER, you should switch up directions and run every other time in the other direction. In real life? Rarely anyone does... and I have not heard of anyone die as a direct result of that.1 -
@midwesterner85 - you probably already thought of this, but when my legs were different lengths (easily visible difference in length), it turned out to be a HIP problem, not a leg problem. Adjusted the hip and the legs are much much closer now. Is that possible in your case, or are your one set of leg bones just bigger than the other?0
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PastorVincent wrote: »
Don't say that! The one I'm training for starts on a gentle climb for the first 5k or so, then is a very gently downhill from there. 😂0 -
PastorVincent wrote: »
Last year the half marathon winner was 1:05:22. It's a fast course (the full is only slightly more variable).1 -
@Avidkeo and @sarahthes I think your so-called races are flatter than my kitchen!1
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*sigh* with the heat index over 100, dew point in the upper 70s and only 45 mins till my next meeting... looks like day 2 of no running in July.3
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PastorVincent wrote: »@Avidkeo and @sarahthes I think your so-called races are flatter than my kitchen!
Berlin marathon has 122ft total vert.... different strategies required, but that doesn't make the WR set there any less legitimate.....0 -
PastorVincent wrote: »@Avidkeo and @sarahthes I think your so-called races are flatter than my kitchen!
I do live in the Prairies... Typically when we have hills we go down into a ravine or river valley and then back up rather than climbing something above the surrounding terrain.0 -
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lporter229 wrote: »@MegaMooseEsq - Congrats on your sub 10 mile!! Your BIL is definitely giving you good advice to avoid the sidewalks. In addition to being a harder surface, they also generally have more trip hazards and sometimes decapitation threats from tree limbs. And I believe the word you are looking for is camber. If you run on the streets or on a loop path, it is also good to run in different directions so that you are not always turning on the same leg. This is more likely to have an impact on your knees, whereas camber is more likely to affect your hips and back. If you run in neighborhoods with cul-de-sacs, alternate the direction in which you turn on every cul-de-sac to help balance out the impact on your knees.
Where it is safe to do so (light to no traffic) I run towards the middle of the street as the sides tend to be more canted and much harder on knees and ankles. Definitely cannot do this on any street with traffic though.
Awesome on the sub-10 mile!! WhooHoo
Thanks! I need to be better about running toward the middle of paths - I've got that Midwestern/social anxiety compulsion always to follow the rules and never inconvenience anyone, so I catch myself running to the very right of the path even when it's completely unnecessary.lporter229 wrote: »lporter229 wrote: »@MegaMooseEsq - Congrats on your sub 10 mile!! Your BIL is definitely giving you good advice to avoid the sidewalks. In addition to being a harder surface, they also generally have more trip hazards and sometimes decapitation threats from tree limbs. And I believe the word you are looking for is camber. If you run on the streets or on a loop path, it is also good to run in different directions so that you are not always turning on the same leg. This is more likely to have an impact on your knees, whereas camber is more likely to affect your hips and back. If you run in neighborhoods with cul-de-sacs, alternate the direction in which you turn on every cul-de-sac to help balance out the impact on your knees.
I think this may have come across wrong. When I read it back now, it sounds like I was giving horrible advice! I never meant to suggest that you should run with your back to traffic. You should always run with it. Sorry if that created confusion. What I meant is that if you run on a circular path or a track, change your direction so that you are not always turning on the same leg. Same goes with cul-de-sacs. Usually these are quiet, low traffic neighborhoods where you can cross the street and change the direction in which you turn around. I have a lot of cul-de-sacs in my neighborhood, so I try to alternate the direction I am turning on each one.
As far as camber, there's not a whole lot you can do about it other than picking streets with a low camber or sticking to paved pathways. If you do most of your running on roads, you are always going to be a bit out of balance, so account for it where you can.
This was how I read your comment - my options are sidewalks or paved paths, so that's where my mind went, but I can see how the traffic thing came into it for folks who run on roads. I tried running on a street with no sidewalk on vacation last month and it stressed me out so much that I'm not sure even the runner's high was worth it.0 -
03/07 3.16 miles it started good but once I got hot the flies attacked & kept swarming around my face even though I was wearing insect repellent.
I’m going to aim for 50 again so add me to that 50mile club too. I’m from the north coast of Ireland.
All the running stories are very inspiring. There ‘s hope for me yet. I’m know not consistent enough & always let everything else get in the way but I do love to run
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i'm sure we've asked but what is everyone's favorite race
I have run the Glacier Ridge Ultra(50k) a few times and totally love that course--- mostly because it is 15 minutes from my house and I can run those trails all the time, but my favorite race experience was doing the Cloudsplitter (50k) in Kentucky. That race was special because not only was it incredibly difficult, after I finished my 50k, I crewed for my brother and his friend who were tackling the 100 mile distance. After my brother had to pull out, I hooked up with his friend and paced him the last 15 miles in the dark to help him get his first 100 mile finish. The race has subsequently relocated to Virginia, which makes that particular race even more special.
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LaDispute57 wrote: »i'm sure we've asked but what is everyone's favorite race
I have run the Glacier Ridge Ultra(50k) a few times and totally love that course--- mostly because it is 15 minutes from my house and I can run those trails all the time, but my favorite race experience was doing the Cloudsplitter (50k) in Kentucky. That race was special because not only was it incredibly difficult, after I finished my 50k, I crewed for my brother and his friend who were tackling the 100 mile distance. After my brother had to pull out, I hooked up with his friend and paced him the last 15 miles in the dark to help him get his first 100 mile finish. The race has subsequently relocated to Virginia, which makes that particular race even more special.
Glacier Ridge Ultra(50k) this year was my first trail race and my first ultra. So I guess that means it will hold a special place in my life forever or something.1 -
PastorVincent wrote: »Camber cul de sac question:
I live on a cul de sac road off a busy highway. I always run the same direction because at the end of the culd de sac I want to be running toward traffic. .
The discussion on camber has be wondering if I should try running the other direction first and not be running toward traffic at the end of the road?
In GENERAL, on PAPER, you should switch up directions and run every other time in the other direction. In real life? Rarely anyone does... and I have not heard of anyone die as a direct result of that.
Heh, I think for me it's worth caring about because I've already got an imbalance and I want to make sure I don't make it worse - the first time I had issues with my knee wasn't running related at all, but flared up after I started wearing heels to work regularly. The second time was when I started lifting heavy. The road definitely isn't *causing* the problem, but I'm guessing it might not help. I didn't blink twice about giving up heels, but I'm not giving up lifting or running unless I absolutely have to!
ALSO!!!! My husband just picked this up for me! I can say with some confidence that no matter how it goes, as of tomorrow, this is going to be my favorite race (at least until I run a second one).
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PastorVincent wrote: »Glacier Ridge Ultra(50k) this year was my first trail race and my first ultra. So I guess that means it will hold a special place in my life forever or something.
Yep. It's a rule.2 -
PastorVincent wrote: »
Don't say that! The one I'm training for starts on a gentle climb for the first 5k or so, then is a very gently downhill from there. 😂
Kerikeri? That’s an awesome half. Guaranteed PB as long as it’s not too humid. Done it three times and hoping to fit it in again this year.1 -
7/1: 4.5 miles
7/3: 2.5 miles
Total: 7/85
Upcoming Races:
Wineglass Marathon 9/30
Treadmill run since the weather is stormy. I really despise treadmills.
There are ZERO races tomorrow in my area. I plan to run my own personal 10K at the park instead.2 -
July goals 60 miles. Work up to 5 minutes of running. Bike often. Rehab smart.
1---5.52 mtn bike
2---2.09 run 3(4,4)
3---5.58 mtn bike
MILES
Running 2.1
Cycling/MTN bike 11.1
Upcoming Races
July 22 Draper Lake Duathlon (3k,22.5k,3k). Norman OK
October 14th Spirit of Survival Lawton OK. Quarter Marathon
March 31, 2019 A2A Undecided distance. Ardmore OK
April 28, 2019 OKC Memorial Marathon (half)2 -
Date :::: Miles :::: Cumulative
07/01/18 :::: 3.1 :::: 3.1
07/02/18 :::: 5.5 :::: 8.6
07/03/18 :::: 3.0 :::: 11.5
Waited until early evening to run, and it was still plenty hot. I had planned for a little longer but it was really not feeling great at all, so I called it done.
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ContraryMaryMary wrote: »PastorVincent wrote: »
Don't say that! The one I'm training for starts on a gentle climb for the first 5k or so, then is a very gently downhill from there. 😂
Kerikeri? That’s an awesome half. Guaranteed PB as long as it’s not too humid. Done it three times and hoping to fit it in again this year.
yep Kerikeri! Lol. well It should be a PB as the only other HM Ive ever done was 3hr 7min in wellington in 2011 - that was hell, I did not train properly, walked over half of it, it was POURING down with a head wind in both directions (u shaped course) and was only 10 degrees. I would have happily quit at 15k but had to get to the end because my ride home was there. Hence all my questions about training for this one - I want to do it in 2.5 hrs or less, and I want to run the whole thing. Hopefully you can make it!2 -
Take a few days away at my brothers lake side cabin doing a few of the last jobs and 11 pages behind.
Which is what happens when you get a great Question.
Group Question???
How long have you been running? Do you have a story to share?
I believe it was fall of 2014. My niece competed in the local Sprint Triathlon and challenge me for 2015.
At that time I was in the final stages of rehabbing a Meniscus Tear in my left knee and the doctor plainly said the injury was caused by the extra weight and I needed to lose it for my long term health. She gave me a referral to the Hospital Dietician and this resulted in my introduction to MFP and food/calorie awareness. Started swimming ( learn to swim lessons ) as it was low impact then increased walking distance by not taking my vehicle to go mid-week grocery shopping. Slowly added running with no concept of adding distance, rest days, distance cutbacks-rest etc. Never got injured running until after I learned a lot more, ironically on an easy 5k run before swimming. First event was the 5k in the local Sprint Triathlon, 2nd was a 10k along our local riverbank trails and my 3rd event was a Friday Night 6pm 10 km Roots and Ruts Trail Race where anyone over 70 minutes would need a headlamp. Hooked on trails since. Local club members ( Road and Trail sub groups ) each have a yearly list of events they want to do and we work out an ad-hoc plan feeding our addictions. Enjoy reading Race reports from fellow addicts especially when it's an event I have done or hope to do. Thanks to all of my fellow MFP Addicts my Running Event Bucket List has grown and it means I need to run 2 events per month and live to 150.
@sarahthes Since I did the Edmonton Canada Day Run last year ( 150th Birthday ) I was with you every step of the way in your race report. Especially the downhill start ( which equals uphill finish ), I loved running across the bridge - something about closing a major River crossing to allow runners on it is special. The run up the hill to the University and around the residential area of campus was fantastic as we had quite a few people out cheering. One lady even set up an un-official Aid station - she was pouring water as fast as she could. Glad you had a great experience and loved the shirts the whole family was sporting.
@skippygirlsmom that was such an inspiring moment and says so much about the guidance and support you provided to Miss Skip that molded her into such a wonderful young lady. As other's have said over the few years on here "You're such a good mom! Sniff"
@polskagirl01 Loved that race report - another one hooked on the challenges of off road trails. I have 3 events that are my must attend - all trail with appropriate names - Roots and Ruts, Don't Get Lost in the Woods and Miserable Miles.woo hoo first 5k done! 85 to go lol.
Spent a year 1989/90 traveling Australia/NZ - made it all the way up to the Coromandel Peninsula . I live in Northern Canada, 5 hr drive north of Edmonton, Ab in a small community Peace River, Ab.And I totally agree, kiwis and aussies should run the world, though we fight like siblings over out favourite toys - aussies keep claiming famous kiwis as their own for example.
OH - gets popcorn and settles in for the reply from @Orphia6 -
ContraryMaryMary wrote: »PastorVincent wrote: »
Don't say that! The one I'm training for starts on a gentle climb for the first 5k or so, then is a very gently downhill from there. 😂
Kerikeri? That’s an awesome half. Guaranteed PB as long as it’s not too humid. Done it three times and hoping to fit it in again this year.
yep Kerikeri! Lol. well It should be a PB as the only other HM Ive ever done was 3hr 7min in wellington in 2011 - that was hell, I did not train properly, walked over half of it, it was POURING down with a head wind in both directions (u shaped course) and was only 10 degrees. I would have happily quit at 15k but had to get to the end because my ride home was there. Hence all my questions about training for this one - I want to do it in 2.5 hrs or less, and I want to run the whole thing. Hopefully you can make it!
Piece of cake!! Plenty of time to train. Word of warning, however, that's a 7km uphill at the start and while it's fairly gentle, you are running on cold legs. I would recommend plenty of hill training in the coming months. Also, the last five k's are flat, which after around nine k's downhill are a real mind *kitten*.
The event has a great atmosphere. It's a nice smallish field (especially for those of us who've run Auckland three weeks before with its monster crowds). What makes it especially awesome that they close the road for most of it (eliminating camber issues) and you get to enjoy the countryside and the cow smells and everything. Also, the fudge factory a few k's from the end always has a few people handing out samples!!! Can't lose really.1 -
7/3- Couch to 10K Day 1 completes. 1.57miles is better than 0 miles so I’ll take it 🙏🏾🙌🏾
Total: 1.57/3012 -
Arieslife88 wrote: »7/3- Couch to 10K Day 1 completes. 1.57miles is better than 0 miles so I’ll take it 🙏🏾🙌🏾
Total: 1.57/30
that's awesome! nice running2
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