Hating on Fat People Just Makes Them Fatter
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Oh boy, another article for people who are too lazy and/or uncaring about their health to fall back on instead of eating less and moving more. Victim mentality FTMFL.
win!!!
Ok, but what people who have an underline medical condition. I have a friend who suffers from pcos and she really is struggling to lose weight and there are plenty of women just like her. She does eat less, no processed foods and workout but because of her condition weight loss is not as easy. I'm not saying people should not take ownership of their health or anything like that, I'm just saying some might have an underline medical condition which causes obesity/overweight.
But that would have nothing to do with the topic. It wasn't rude people that made your friend fatter, it was her medical condition. No one is implying those people are at fault or not taking responsibility. It's the people with nothing wrong with them except a cronic case of 'excess food into mouth' that are the topic. I'm not saying it's ok to be rude to people, it's definitely not, but (medical cases withstanding) only the person putting food in their mouths can claim responsibility for their weight.
Okay, I finally --just, I'm sorry but I truly have to ask. Does anyone know the percentages of how many people are actually afflicted with PCOS? Just asking because my FL is nearly 500 strong and so far I know of only ONE who has that condition. If anyone is so inclined to answer my question please if you also know the actual incidence of "thyroid" problems and "broken metabolism" rates, I'd love to know those percentages ONCE AND FOR ALL.
Bonus points if they are all in a handy link to ONE webpage so I can quote it on my profile wall o' handy links for all posterity.
google is your friend
"PCOS is estimated to affect between 5 and 10 percent of women of reproductive age, thus making it the most common hormonal disorder among women in this age group. It affects women of all races and nationalities."
http://www.uchospitals.edu/specialties/pcos/pcos.html0 -
Oh boy, another article for people who are too lazy and/or uncaring about their health to fall back on instead of eating less and moving more. Victim mentality FTMFL.
win!!!
Ok, but what people who have an underline medical condition. I have a friend who suffers from pcos and she really is struggling to lose weight and there are plenty of women just like her. She does eat less, no processed foods and workout but because of her condition weight loss is not as easy. I'm not saying people should not take ownership of their health or anything like that, I'm just saying some might have an underline medical condition which causes obesity/overweight.
But that would have nothing to do with the topic. It wasn't rude people that made your friend fatter, it was her medical condition. No one is implying those people are at fault or not taking responsibility. It's the people with nothing wrong with them except a cronic case of 'excess food into mouth' that are the topic. I'm not saying it's ok to be rude to people, it's definitely not, but (medical cases withstanding) only the person putting food in their mouths can claim responsibility for their weight.
Okay, I finally --just, I'm sorry but I truly have to ask. Does anyone know the percentages of how many people are actually afflicted with PCOS? Just asking because my FL is nearly 500 strong and so far I know of only ONE who has that condition. If anyone is so inclined to answer my question please if you also know the actual incidence of "thyroid" problems and "broken metabolism" rates, I'd love to know those percentages ONCE AND FOR ALL.
Bonus points if they are all in a handy link to ONE webpage so I can quote it on my profile wall o' handy links for all posterity.
IDK percentages, but it really doesn't matter. Those things are just another variable in the Calories in-calories out equation, specifically your calories out are lower, and you might need to make slightly different dietary choices. As a person with thyroid disease, I don't really accept that as an excuse, you just need to work harder and it might take longer than a person without those conditions.0 -
Blah Blah Blah...excuse making....Blah Blah...studies that enable..Blah Blah...0
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So as long as a person has a physical explanation to their obesity/overweight it is fine, but god forbid if they have anything emotional that they are struggling with...Oh boy, another article for people who are too lazy and/or uncaring about their health to fall back on instead of eating less and moving more. Victim mentality FTMFL.
win!!!
Ok, but what people who have an underline medical condition. I have a friend who suffers from pcos and she really is struggling to lose weight and there are plenty of women just like her. She does eat less, no processed foods and workout but because of her condition weight loss is not as easy. I'm not saying people should not take ownership of their health or anything like that, I'm just saying some might have an underline medical condition which causes obesity/overweight.
But that would have nothing to do with the topic. It wasn't rude people that made your friend fatter, it was her medical condition. No one is implying those people are at fault or not taking responsibility. It's the people with nothing wrong with them except a cronic case of 'excess food into mouth' that are the topic. I'm not saying it's ok to be rude to people, it's definitely not, but (medical cases withstanding) only the person putting food in their mouths can claim responsibility for their weight.0 -
I like it!!! These quotes are amazing today.0
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I'm probably going to get trolled a ton for this, but here we go... As a person who used to be morbidly obese, I don't think some of you realize what it is like to be fat-shamed or intimidated by others. Is it an excuse? No. But is it a very real obstacle for some people? Yes.
I've lost 120 lbs overall, 80ish since I started using MFP... I had the privilege of using an office gym for the better part of a year before having to use a regular one, so luckily for me my initial experience with the gym was a positive one (workin' out with the guys was the highlight of my day after awhile.) Fast forward to when I use a regular gym: I have been mooed at, laughed at, pointed at and laughed at, made fun of by two guys on each side of me on the treadmill, made fun of by a group of guys, actually had "Man the harpoons!" yelled at me, etc.
It's not an excuse. I certainly haven't let it stop me. But, I know I have 120 lbs of weight loss behind me, I know that I can do it, but I imagine it might be harder to 'get back in the saddle' to someone who's already overwhelmed.
Only jerks would troll your post. You were honest about some actual bad experiences you've had with some terrible people but as you said, you didn't use it as an excuse. You fly in the face of what the OPs article purported. According to it, you should be getting bigger, not losing weight like you are.
Congratulations on the hard work you've put in and good luck.0 -
Oh boy, another article for people who are too lazy and/or uncaring about their health to fall back on instead of eating less and moving more. Victim mentality FTMFL.
win!!!
Ok, but what people who have an underline medical condition. I have a friend who suffers from pcos and she really is struggling to lose weight and there are plenty of women just like her. She does eat less, no processed foods and workout but because of her condition weight loss is not as easy. I'm not saying people should not take ownership of their health or anything like that, I'm just saying some might have an underline medical condition which causes obesity/overweight.
But that would have nothing to do with the topic. It wasn't rude people that made your friend fatter, it was her medical condition. No one is implying those people are at fault or not taking responsibility. It's the people with nothing wrong with them except a cronic case of 'excess food into mouth' that are the topic. I'm not saying it's ok to be rude to people, it's definitely not, but (medical cases withstanding) only the person putting food in their mouths can claim responsibility for their weight.
Okay, I finally --just, I'm sorry but I truly have to ask. Does anyone know the percentages of how many people are actually afflicted with PCOS? Just asking because my FL is nearly 500 strong and so far I know of only ONE who has that condition. If anyone is so inclined to answer my question please if you also know the actual incidence of "thyroid" problems and "broken metabolism" rates, I'd love to know those percentages ONCE AND FOR ALL.
Bonus points if they are all in a handy link to ONE webpage so I can quote it on my profile wall o' handy links for all posterity.
google is your friend
"PCOS is estimated to affect between 5 and 10 percent of women of reproductive age, thus making it the most common hormonal disorder among women in this age group. It affects women of all races and nationalities."
http://www.uchospitals.edu/specialties/pcos/pcos.htmlOh boy, another article for people who are too lazy and/or uncaring about their health to fall back on instead of eating less and moving more. Victim mentality FTMFL.
win!!!
Ok, but what people who have an underline medical condition. I have a friend who suffers from pcos and she really is struggling to lose weight and there are plenty of women just like her. She does eat less, no processed foods and workout but because of her condition weight loss is not as easy. I'm not saying people should not take ownership of their health or anything like that, I'm just saying some might have an underline medical condition which causes obesity/overweight.
But that would have nothing to do with the topic. It wasn't rude people that made your friend fatter, it was her medical condition. No one is implying those people are at fault or not taking responsibility. It's the people with nothing wrong with them except a cronic case of 'excess food into mouth' that are the topic. I'm not saying it's ok to be rude to people, it's definitely not, but (medical cases withstanding) only the person putting food in their mouths can claim responsibility for their weight.
Okay, I finally --just, I'm sorry but I truly have to ask. Does anyone know the percentages of how many people are actually afflicted with PCOS? Just asking because my FL is nearly 500 strong and so far I know of only ONE who has that condition. If anyone is so inclined to answer my question please if you also know the actual incidence of "thyroid" problems and "broken metabolism" rates, I'd love to know those percentages ONCE AND FOR ALL.
Bonus points if they are all in a handy link to ONE webpage so I can quote it on my profile wall o' handy links for all posterity.
IDK percentages, but it really doesn't matter. Those things are just another variable in the Calories in-calories out equation, specifically your calories out are lower, and you might need to make slightly different dietary choices. As a person with thyroid disease, I don't really accept that as an excuse, you just need to work harder and it might take longer than a person without those conditions.
thank you both, I had a feeling that was a low incidence and also a red herring but had no idea how it actually factored into the cals in and out situation. Now that I do I feel better about posting my standard replies since the incidences are quite low and apparently the methods to remedy are still the same. Sorry I didn't google it myself but sometimes when I'm tired and easily distracted like today google is not my friend but more like a porn/celebritygossip/fashion machine.0 -
So as long as a person has a physical explanation to their obesity/overweight it is fine, but god forbid if they have anything emotional that they are struggling with...Oh boy, another article for people who are too lazy and/or uncaring about their health to fall back on instead of eating less and moving more. Victim mentality FTMFL.
win!!!
Ok, but what people who have an underline medical condition. I have a friend who suffers from pcos and she really is struggling to lose weight and there are plenty of women just like her. She does eat less, no processed foods and workout but because of her condition weight loss is not as easy. I'm not saying people should not take ownership of their health or anything like that, I'm just saying some might have an underline medical condition which causes obesity/overweight.
But that would have nothing to do with the topic. It wasn't rude people that made your friend fatter, it was her medical condition. No one is implying those people are at fault or not taking responsibility. It's the people with nothing wrong with them except a cronic case of 'excess food into mouth' that are the topic. I'm not saying it's ok to be rude to people, it's definitely not, but (medical cases withstanding) only the person putting food in their mouths can claim responsibility for their weight.
Nope, not what I said. I sympathize with others trying to lose weight but I would never blame my weight gain on anyone but myself (unless someone was threatening me with violence if I didn't eat to excess). You can sympathize while not giving anyone the carte blanche excuse of "society and the mean people in it made me fat".0 -
Oh boy, another article for people who are too lazy and/or uncaring about their health to fall back on instead of eating less and moving more. Victim mentality FTMFL.
win!!!
Ok, but what people who have an underline medical condition. I have a friend who suffers from pcos and she really is struggling to lose weight and there are plenty of women just like her. She does eat less, no processed foods and workout but because of her condition weight loss is not as easy. I'm not saying people should not take ownership of their health or anything like that, I'm just saying some might have an underline medical condition which causes obesity/overweight.
But that would have nothing to do with the topic. It wasn't rude people that made your friend fatter, it was her medical condition. No one is implying those people are at fault or not taking responsibility. It's the people with nothing wrong with them except a cronic case of 'excess food into mouth' that are the topic. I'm not saying it's ok to be rude to people, it's definitely not, but (medical cases withstanding) only the person putting food in their mouths can claim responsibility for their weight.
Okay, I finally --just, I'm sorry but I truly have to ask. Does anyone know the percentages of how many people are actually afflicted with PCOS? Just asking because my FL is nearly 500 strong and so far I know of only ONE who has that condition. If anyone is so inclined to answer my question please if you also know the actual incidence of "thyroid" problems and "broken metabolism" rates, I'd love to know those percentages ONCE AND FOR ALL.
Bonus points if they are all in a handy link to ONE webpage so I can quote it on my profile wall o' handy links for all posterity.
google is your friend
"PCOS is estimated to affect between 5 and 10 percent of women of reproductive age, thus making it the most common hormonal disorder among women in this age group. It affects women of all races and nationalities."
http://www.uchospitals.edu/specialties/pcos/pcos.htmlOh boy, another article for people who are too lazy and/or uncaring about their health to fall back on instead of eating less and moving more. Victim mentality FTMFL.
win!!!
Ok, but what people who have an underline medical condition. I have a friend who suffers from pcos and she really is struggling to lose weight and there are plenty of women just like her. She does eat less, no processed foods and workout but because of her condition weight loss is not as easy. I'm not saying people should not take ownership of their health or anything like that, I'm just saying some might have an underline medical condition which causes obesity/overweight.
But that would have nothing to do with the topic. It wasn't rude people that made your friend fatter, it was her medical condition. No one is implying those people are at fault or not taking responsibility. It's the people with nothing wrong with them except a cronic case of 'excess food into mouth' that are the topic. I'm not saying it's ok to be rude to people, it's definitely not, but (medical cases withstanding) only the person putting food in their mouths can claim responsibility for their weight.
Okay, I finally --just, I'm sorry but I truly have to ask. Does anyone know the percentages of how many people are actually afflicted with PCOS? Just asking because my FL is nearly 500 strong and so far I know of only ONE who has that condition. If anyone is so inclined to answer my question please if you also know the actual incidence of "thyroid" problems and "broken metabolism" rates, I'd love to know those percentages ONCE AND FOR ALL.
Bonus points if they are all in a handy link to ONE webpage so I can quote it on my profile wall o' handy links for all posterity.
IDK percentages, but it really doesn't matter. Those things are just another variable in the Calories in-calories out equation, specifically your calories out are lower, and you might need to make slightly different dietary choices. As a person with thyroid disease, I don't really accept that as an excuse, you just need to work harder and it might take longer than a person without those conditions.
thank you both, I had a feeling that was a low incidence and also a red herring but had no idea how it actually factored into the cals in and out situation. Now that I do I feel better about posting my standard replies since the incidences are quite low and apparently the methods to remedy are still the same. Sorry I didn't google it myself but sometimes when I'm tired and easily distracted like today google is not my friend but more like a porn/celebritygossip/fashion machine.
Haha no worries. I am heavily sarcastic by nature...I personally was interested in the statistic so I don't mind googling to find out
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Sometimes all it takes is one person willing to be there for someone, who is struggling. I see a lot of cold, distanced comments in this thread and am wondering what life would look like if the origins of those comments would step outside of themselves for a while to ask the weaker person - who could benefit from the experience and knowledge of the stronger one - whether they could help somehow. Most humans thrive on kindness, regardless of all the "I don't sugarcoat it" types of claims you see here. The strong individual isn't struggling anymore, so why not act like a mentor? Or is it nicer, more convenient, to sit on a high horse? Genuine kindness isn't the same as sugarcoating, but maybe we should all just fend for ourselves to make the world a better place.0
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So, does calling someone skinny, in turn, make them skinnier? Or calling someone smart, make them smarter? Or calling someone rich, make them richer? Or calling someone athletic make them more athletic?
So, basically, I'm not responsible for my own actions, but I am responsible for the words that people say to me. I have no control over my weight, my financial status, my level of knowledge...I'm just at the mercy of the general public and family members, and I just HOPE that they bless me with good words and not bad ones.
Or am I missing the point of the article?
Yes! Now you finally understand how the world works!!
(just kidding, obviously!)
*looks down*
you are bigger, better and have more stamina than anyone else
you are bigger, better and have more stamina than anyone else
you are bigger, better and have more stamina than anyone else
you are bigger, better and have more stamina than anyone else
And gosh darn it, people like me!
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this thread. 0 -
You have the body you want... truest words I ever heard.
How bad do you want a fit body? No words would stop me.
That's a great quote. I'll be using it as motivation in the future. 0 -
Sometimes all it takes is one person willing to be there for someone, who is struggling. I see a lot of cold, distanced comments in this thread and am wondering what life would look like if the origins of those comments would step outside of themselves for a while to ask the weaker person - who could benefit from the experience and knowledge of the stronger one - whether they could help somehow. Most humans thrive on kindness, regardless of all the "I don't sugarcoat it" types of claims you see here. The strong individual isn't struggling anymore, so why not act like a mentor? Or is it nicer, more convenient, to sit on a high horse? Genuine kindness isn't the same as sugarcoating, but maybe we should all just fend for ourselves to make the world a better place.
Many of us know that it took a swift kick in our pants to stop making and excuses and get moving. Once people make that commitment and actually get moving, then the "oh I'm sorries" and "you can do it!s" come out in full force (at least on most of my friends' walls). The individual has to make that commitment though, and drop the excuses first and foremost.0 -
*looks down*
you are bigger, better and have more stamina than anyone else
you are bigger, better and have more stamina than anyone else
you are bigger, better and have more stamina than anyone else
you are bigger, better and have more stamina than anyone else
And gosh darn it, people like me!
I this thread.
i was going to post a picture of that reply but i didnt think too many people would know stuart
i think most people who say blah blah blah people are man blah blah blah im going to use this as an excuse have never had that kind of pressure put on them
yes you as a person have to be stronger than to let some jerks put you down but that is more often easier said than done. its really a cliche saying but walk a mile in my shoes is fairly accurate here. only dont worry about walking in their shoes, try living in their head.
that is when you will see how powerful idiots can be.
as far as the Poster who commented about her trials and tribulation at the public gym after working out in a work one, while violence rarely solves anything i wish you would have kneed them right in the nuts0 -
I just did a study on people who do study's. Turns out they're full of ****,.0
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I agree with this article. I feel discriminated against because of my weight and it makes me feel hopeless sometimes.
No matter how much a loose I will always be fat.
I understand what you mean and your not alone.0 -
My husband telling me to not eat a second helping of something or I would feel bad about it made me get my eating habits in check and I started exercising to aid in the weight loss. I learned to eat healthy and am 40 lbs down for almost 3 years now. Very happy too.
It's nice to hear about a couple who communicate so well. Too many women would take the low road and feel sorry for themselves when a spouse mentioned her weight. Nice work!0 -
I find this really interesting because I have an opposite response. I got called huge, porky, and chunky all throughout high school. I had boys pulling Never Been Kissed on me and pretending they knew a boy who liked me, only to laugh and say no one would ever date me. What did I weigh? Between 140 and 150. Which is in the "average" weigh range for my height. I look back at pictures and remember fitting into size 11 juniors and 12 women's. I had one girl tell my brother that she could swear I weighed over 200. So I rarely ate.
I didn't gain weight until the end of my sophmore year of college. Everyone in college told me the opposite, "You're so skinny!" So I ate more because I thought I could afford it.
People's reactions are very interesting.0 -
I'm not responsible for other people's feelings. They are.
Other people aren't responsible for mine. I am, solely.
Personal responsibility. Some folks use it more than others.0 -
So, does calling someone skinny, in turn, make them skinnier? Or calling someone smart, make them smarter? Or calling someone rich, make them richer? Or calling someone athletic make them more athletic?
So, basically, I'm not responsible for my own actions, but I am responsible for the words that people say to me. I have no control over my weight, my financial status, my level of knowledge...I'm just at the mercy of the general public and family members, and I just HOPE that they bless me with good words and not bad ones.
Or am I missing the point of the article?
OMGz, this is amazing!! Quick, somebody tell me to go win the lottery!0 -
So, does calling someone skinny, in turn, make them skinnier? Or calling someone smart, make them smarter? Or calling someone rich, make them richer? Or calling someone athletic make them more athletic?
So, basically, I'm not responsible for my own actions, but I am responsible for the words that people say to me. I have no control over my weight, my financial status, my level of knowledge...I'm just at the mercy of the general public and family members, and I just HOPE that they bless me with good words and not bad ones.
Or am I missing the point of the article?
Yes! Now you finally understand how the world works!!
(just kidding, obviously!)
*looks down*
you are bigger, better and have more stamina than anyone else
you are bigger, better and have more stamina than anyone else
you are bigger, better and have more stamina than anyone else
you are bigger, better and have more stamina than anyone else
And gosh darn it, people like me!
I this thread.
HARDER! You forgot HARDER!0 -
Obviously yes. My point though is that there are many here who are close to the point where they have the strength to commit, but aren't quite there yet. Instead of giving them the rough treatment - which I don't believe is very helpful - why not ask gently what is wrong? Maybe they will finally take the last necessary step that is needed to not make excuses anymore. It goes quickly for some lucky ones, whereas for others it is about rowing back and forth several times. Patience and understanding that we aren't all alike (yep, some are of that gross sensitive type to which I also belong) does require a lot of personal maturity though. Pushy consultants aren't usually very successful, but those who adapt to the client's needs might experience great progress. My humble two cents.Sometimes all it takes is one person willing to be there for someone, who is struggling. I see a lot of cold, distanced comments in this thread and am wondering what life would look like if the origins of those comments would step outside of themselves for a while to ask the weaker person - who could benefit from the experience and knowledge of the stronger one - whether they could help somehow. Most humans thrive on kindness, regardless of all the "I don't sugarcoat it" types of claims you see here. The strong individual isn't struggling anymore, so why not act like a mentor? Or is it nicer, more convenient, to sit on a high horse? Genuine kindness isn't the same as sugarcoating, but maybe we should all just fend for ourselves to make the world a better place.
Many of us know that it took a swift kick in our pants to stop making and excuses and get moving. Once people make that commitment and actually get moving, then the "oh I'm sorries" and "you can do it!s" come out in full force (at least on most of my friends' walls). The individual has to make that commitment though, and drop the excuses first and foremost.0 -
You have the body you want...
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So, does calling someone skinny, in turn, make them skinnier? Or calling someone smart, make them smarter? Or calling someone rich, make them richer? Or calling someone athletic make them more athletic?
So, basically, I'm not responsible for my own actions, but I am responsible for the words that people say to me. I have no control over my weight, my financial status, my level of knowledge...I'm just at the mercy of the general public and family members, and I just HOPE that they bless me with good words and not bad ones.
Or am I missing the point of the article?
OMGz, this is amazing!! Quick, somebody tell me to go win the lottery!
Molly! You're a gawt.... dam'd..... Lottery winner! STFU you little LOTTERY winner. Who do you think you're talking to LOTTERY WINNER? I may be fat but you're a LOTTERY WINNER and I can diet!0 -
I agree with this article. I feel discriminated against because of my weight and it makes me feel hopeless sometimes.
No matter how much a loose I will always be fat.
I understand what you mean and your not alone.
I agree. I have had it happen to me. And for the most part I agree with article. My mom would always rip into me about my weight (she asked me why I couldn't look like a college cheerleader or dancer. She also said that no guy would ever marry me because of my weight etc), my doctor's blamed my asthma on my weight (and turns out it wasn't the reason, rather a contribution) and told me to lose. My peers at school (particularly boys) would tease me. Even in college. Problem was, no one was guiding me on how to do it. I even took Green Tea pills thinking that would help. Nope, and after my mom died, it only got worse.
Nowadays though, everyone that gives me compliments are a drive for me to get even better, and not to mention my little one. I have to show him that no matter what he can overcome anything. And that being healthy will make him live longer then his grandmothers (my mom was 57 when she died, my mother in law was 51).0 -
*looks down*
you are bigger, better and have more stamina than anyone else
you are bigger, better and have more stamina than anyone else
you are bigger, better and have more stamina than anyone else
you are bigger, better and have more stamina than anyone else
And gosh darn it, people like me!
I this thread.
i was going to post a picture of that reply but i didnt think too many people would know stuart
i think most people who say blah blah blah people are man blah blah blah im going to use this as an excuse have never had that kind of pressure put on them
yes you as a person have to be stronger than to let some jerks put you down but that is more often easier said than done. its really a cliche saying but walk a mile in my shoes is fairly accurate here. only dont worry about walking in their shoes, try living in their head.
that is when you will see how powerful idiots can be.
as far as the Poster who commented about her trials and tribulation at the public gym after working out in a work one, while violence rarely solves anything i wish you would have kneed them right in the nuts
As far as walking a mile in someone else's shoes, are you really proposing that "i think most people who say blah blah blah people are man blah blah blah im going to use this as an excuse have never had that kind of pressure put on them"?
Really?
So, and I'm just throwing this out there, all the people here that are fit and saying "stop making excuses" were always fit? Or that they have never had depression or self esteem issues? You think that, just maybe, some of the people that are saying "stop making excuses" are speaking from experience?
I'm not trying to create a great debate here, but the stop making excuses thing has been successful for a good number of people and not just in weight loss.0 -
Obviously yes. My point though is that there are many here who are close to the point where they have the strength to commit, but aren't quite there yet. Instead of giving them the rough treatment - which I don't believe is very helpful - why not ask gently what is wrong? Maybe they will finally take the last necessary step that is needed to not make excuses anymore. It goes quickly for some lucky ones, whereas for others it is about rowing back and forth several times. Patience and understanding that we aren't all alike (yep, some are of that gross sensitive type to which I also belong) does require a lot of personal maturity though. Pushy consultants aren't usually very successful, but those who adapt to the client's needs might experience great progress. My humble two cents.Sometimes all it takes is one person willing to be there for someone, who is struggling. I see a lot of cold, distanced comments in this thread and am wondering what life would look like if the origins of those comments would step outside of themselves for a while to ask the weaker person - who could benefit from the experience and knowledge of the stronger one - whether they could help somehow. Most humans thrive on kindness, regardless of all the "I don't sugarcoat it" types of claims you see here. The strong individual isn't struggling anymore, so why not act like a mentor? Or is it nicer, more convenient, to sit on a high horse? Genuine kindness isn't the same as sugarcoating, but maybe we should all just fend for ourselves to make the world a better place.
Many of us know that it took a swift kick in our pants to stop making and excuses and get moving. Once people make that commitment and actually get moving, then the "oh I'm sorries" and "you can do it!s" come out in full force (at least on most of my friends' walls). The individual has to make that commitment though, and drop the excuses first and foremost.
No in my experience the readiness comes from the inside. No one external to you can give that to you. Once you're set on that path though sure, cheerleaders can keep you motivated. But that first step has to come from within. That "decision" to change.0 -
Obviously yes. My point though is that there are many here who are close to the point where they have the strength to commit, but aren't quite there yet. Instead of giving them the rough treatment - which I don't believe is very helpful - why not ask gently what is wrong? Maybe they will finally take the last necessary step that is needed to not make excuses anymore. It goes quickly for some lucky ones, whereas for others it is about rowing back and forth several times. Patience and understanding that we aren't all alike (yep, some are of that gross sensitive type to which I also belong) does require a lot of personal maturity though. Pushy consultants aren't usually very successful, but those who adapt to the client's needs might experience great progress. My humble two cents.Sometimes all it takes is one person willing to be there for someone, who is struggling. I see a lot of cold, distanced comments in this thread and am wondering what life would look like if the origins of those comments would step outside of themselves for a while to ask the weaker person - who could benefit from the experience and knowledge of the stronger one - whether they could help somehow. Most humans thrive on kindness, regardless of all the "I don't sugarcoat it" types of claims you see here. The strong individual isn't struggling anymore, so why not act like a mentor? Or is it nicer, more convenient, to sit on a high horse? Genuine kindness isn't the same as sugarcoating, but maybe we should all just fend for ourselves to make the world a better place.
Many of us know that it took a swift kick in our pants to stop making and excuses and get moving. Once people make that commitment and actually get moving, then the "oh I'm sorries" and "you can do it!s" come out in full force (at least on most of my friends' walls). The individual has to make that commitment though, and drop the excuses first and foremost.
No in my experience the readiness comes from the inside. No one external to you can give that to you. Once you're set on that path though sure, cheerleaders can keep you motivated. But that first step has to come from within. That "decision" to change.
^^ This. My mom told me very nicely when I was 11 that I was eating too much and putting on weight. I had some jerks in my Jr. High that called me a fatty after that. Neither my supportive mother nor those jerky kids were responsible for my continued gain. It was a year and a half ago that I said to myself "nope, I'm done being fat" that I started to make changes.0 -
Oh boy, another article for people who are too lazy and/or uncaring about their health to fall back on instead of eating less and moving more. Victim mentality FTMFL.
P.A.O.O.A.M People against overuse of acronyms movement.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMxoh2QEvlg 0
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