Hating on Fat People Just Makes Them Fatter
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I think you have met a very streamlined group of people then. I'm much more complex than that and don't recognise anything from your comment.
I hear what you are saying. Do you (general you) think that it is empowering for a still weak, undecided mind to get the tough treatment though? It is frequent here to see "suck it up buttercup", which is the other end of the spectrum. This particular article doesn't have the empowering vibe either, so maybe find something from the middle when addressing new members? Just a thought, since we don't know which method would work for them to tip over into determination. I think everyone, who is already strong, can recognise one, who is still wavering; the loud people are only as stupid as they want to be, in fact most seem highly intelligent to me.I'm just not a normal person. I'm also not a victim. So, people telling me I look round and whatever else they said was certainly motivation to get my *kitten* together. I didn't go cry in the dark with a half gallon of ice cream, I looked in the mirror and sad, "holy crap, they're right. I am fat." And I started doing things to reverse that. So, while the article touches on some sensitivities, it also perpetuates weak minded people into feeling hopeless, which is complete bullsh!t.
Edit: typo.
I don't tend to have the same sensitivities as others. In fact, in a way, and don't take this wrong, but I despise weak people; mentally weak - unable to process critical thought in tough situations. People where disagreement is not allowed. If you don't agree, you are not being sensitive. Basically, these people create a world where the only feedback they allow is that which supports what they want to believe. I am fortunate in that I constantly process new information and change my mind about things based on the new information. If people around me are telling me that I look like I've put on weight, rather than get offended, I look in the mirror and I either say screw it, I don't care, or I say, I want to fix this situation. But, I don't cry in he dark because people are being mean.0 -
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if your fat.. you need to be told.. get it sorted..
I was never really fat but I was lardy and I wish people had told me sooner.0 -
then you are very lucky...some of us dont have that strength of mind,
I hear what you are saying. Do you (general you) think that it is empowering for a still weak, undecided mind to get the tough treatment though? It is frequent here to see "suck it up buttercup", which is the other end of the spectrum. This particular article doesn't have the empowering vibe either, so maybe find something from the middle when addressing new members? Just a thought, since we don't know which method would work for them to tip over into determination. I think everyone, who is already strong, can recognise one, who is still wavering; the loud people are only as stupid as they want to be, in fact most seem highly intelligent to me.I'm just not a normal person. I'm also not a victim. So, people telling me I look round and whatever else they said was certainly motivation to get my *kitten* together. I didn't go cry in the dark with a half gallon of ice cream, I looked in the mirror and sad, "holy crap, they're right. I am fat." And I started doing things to reverse that. So, while the article touches on some sensitivities, it also perpetuates weak minded people into feeling hopeless, which is complete bullsh!t.
Edit: typo.
I don't tend to have the same sensitivities as others. In fact, in a way, and don't take this wrong, but I despise weak people; mentally weak - unable to process critical thought in tough situations. People where disagreement is not allowed. If you don't agree, you are not being sensitive. Basically, these people create a world where the only feedback they allow is that which supports what they want to believe. I am fortunate in that I constantly process new information and change my mind about things based on the new information. If people around me are telling me that I look like I've put on weight, rather than get offended, I look in the mirror and I either say screw it, I don't care, or I say, I want to fix this situation. But, I don't cry in he dark because people are being mean.
always remember that scene in full metal jacket where the squaddie turns on the bullying sargent major....so i guess there are x 2 ways to look at this type of "constructive" critiscism.......0 -
cant possibly reply.....if your fat.. you need to be told.. get it sorted..
I was never really fat but I was lardy and I wish people had told me sooner.0 -
I had a friend who claimed the right to tell people they were fat because they were "probably living off of his tax dollar."
I had a friend.
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Kinda have to agree with your "friend" obesity costs the NHS £4 billion a year in the UK. It shouldnt be OK to be fat, if someone called me a fat pig id get off my backside and go to the gym!!0
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Incidentally, I got a private message from someone on here recently just letting me know that it's a good thing that I'm working on my body because right now I have an ugly face and an ugly body, but I will have a hot body when I'm thin. Now, my feelers are fine, I happen to be a person who is excessively confident if anything, but suppose I'd been someone with fragile self-esteem on the verge of giving up on this weight loss thing. What's the point of trying to shame someone who is already working on it? What kind of miserable person does that? If I ever post a "do you think I'm hot" thread, have at it, but I don't recall asking randoms for their opinion on my attractiveness. I think some people don't realize that women are human beings, not decorative objects for men.
That said, I wish my doctors had told me that some of my medical issues were related to my weight, because I think they were and none ever offered that as an explanation. I don't get it when the fat acceptance people ***** that their doctors blame everything on their weight, because that never happened to me.0 -
Kinda have to agree with your "friend" obesity costs the NHS £4 billion a year in the UK. It shouldnt be OK to be fat, if someone called me a fat pig id get off my backside and go to the gym!!
That doesn't give him the right to walk up to a stranger and say "you need to lose weight!" Or to make assumptions about that person's finances because of their weight.
And he would only do it to women!
And he had a beer belly!0 -
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I don't know what made you laugh? I just said that I'm not a simple Yes or No as in either you are fat or you do something about it. Your attitude isn't accepting any circumstances that take a toll in a person's life, that make it hard to reach the determined state of mind, but it is just Yes or No. My experience is that people are usually colourful rather than black-and-white. In my experience, "weak" people can also be weak in selected areas of life rather than weak all the way through. Hence my comment on streamlined people. My impression was that you prefer those, who excude strength and confidence without showing any signs of weakness, but if I misunderstood I apologise.
I think you have met a very streamlined group of people then. I'm much more complex than that and don't recognise anything from your comment.
I hear what you are saying. Do you (general you) think that it is empowering for a still weak, undecided mind to get the tough treatment though? It is frequent here to see "suck it up buttercup", which is the other end of the spectrum. This particular article doesn't have the empowering vibe either, so maybe find something from the middle when addressing new members? Just a thought, since we don't know which method would work for them to tip over into determination. I think everyone, who is already strong, can recognise one, who is still wavering; the loud people are only as stupid as they want to be, in fact most seem highly intelligent to me.I'm just not a normal person. I'm also not a victim. So, people telling me I look round and whatever else they said was certainly motivation to get my *kitten* together. I didn't go cry in the dark with a half gallon of ice cream, I looked in the mirror and sad, "holy crap, they're right. I am fat." And I started doing things to reverse that. So, while the article touches on some sensitivities, it also perpetuates weak minded people into feeling hopeless, which is complete bullsh!t.
Edit: typo.
I don't tend to have the same sensitivities as others. In fact, in a way, and don't take this wrong, but I despise weak people; mentally weak - unable to process critical thought in tough situations. People where disagreement is not allowed. If you don't agree, you are not being sensitive. Basically, these people create a world where the only feedback they allow is that which supports what they want to believe. I am fortunate in that I constantly process new information and change my mind about things based on the new information. If people around me are telling me that I look like I've put on weight, rather than get offended, I look in the mirror and I either say screw it, I don't care, or I say, I want to fix this situation. But, I don't cry in he dark because people are being mean.
Lol. Wow. So if a friend or family member tells you you look fat, you will run into a dark corner and cry and then find other fat people to tell you that everything is ok?0 -
Some people do anything to get through their day.Incidentally, I got a private message from someone on here recently just letting me know that it's a good thing that I'm working on my body because right now I have an ugly face and an ugly body, but I will have a hot body when I'm thin.0 -
So, does calling someone skinny, in turn, make them skinnier? Or calling someone smart, make them smarter? Or calling someone rich, make them richer? Or calling someone athletic make them more athletic?
So, basically, I'm not responsible for my own actions, but I am responsible for the words that people say to me. I have no control over my weight, my financial status, my level of knowledge...I'm just at the mercy of the general public and family members, and I just HOPE that they bless me with good words and not bad ones.
Or am I missing the point of the article?
and is everyone a winner even though one team scored more points?
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It's not personal responsibility, it's the bullies!
Yeah.. that's it.0 -
Incidentally, I got a private message from someone on here recently just letting me know that it's a good thing that I'm working on my body because right now I have an ugly face and an ugly body, but I will have a hot body when I'm thin. Now, my feelers are fine, I happen to be a person who is excessively confident if anything, but suppose I'd been someone with fragile self-esteem on the verge of giving up on this weight loss thing. What's the point of trying to shame someone who is already working on it? What kind of miserable person does that? If I ever post a "do you think I'm hot" thread, have at it, but I don't recall asking randoms for their opinion on my attractiveness. I think some people don't realize that women are human beings, not decorative objects for men.
That said, I wish my doctors had told me that some of my medical issues were related to my weight, because I think they were and none ever offered that as an explanation. I don't get it when the fat acceptance people ***** that their doctors blame everything on their weight, because that never happened to me.
1) That person is psychotic if they think you are ugly
2) WTF business is if of theirs?
I don't get why we think we have the answers for other people. Why do we think that we know what they need? We can offer our perspective and our experience, but we aren't God.
When I was punk rock, people would tell me I would be pretty if I wore a dress. Duly noted - if I ever happen to want to appear attractive to you, I will consider wearing a dress.0 -
Incidentally, I got a private message from someone on here recently just letting me know that it's a good thing that I'm working on my body because right now I have an ugly face and an ugly body, but I will have a hot body when I'm thin. Now, my feelers are fine, I happen to be a person who is excessively confident if anything, but suppose I'd been someone with fragile self-esteem on the verge of giving up on this weight loss thing. What's the point of trying to shame someone who is already working on it? What kind of miserable person does that? If I ever post a "do you think I'm hot" thread, have at it, but I don't recall asking randoms for their opinion on my attractiveness. I think some people don't realize that women are human beings, not decorative objects for men.
That said, I wish my doctors had told me that some of my medical issues were related to my weight, because I think they were and none ever offered that as an explanation. I don't get it when the fat acceptance people ***** that their doctors blame everything on their weight, because that never happened to me.
you really need to out this person and report them. im all for fun and games on here and the majority of my replies are of a joking/sarcastic nature. I may even be sometimes looked down upon as inappropriate but even i know there are lines you dont cross and that PM obviously did0 -
For someone to call someone else fat or "call them out on their weight" then 9 times out of ten, it is as a result of insecurity, immaturity and ignorance on the part of the bully. I mean, seriously, what drives someone to spend enough time looking, thinking and then formulating a comment on the body shape and composition of others and then motivates them to pass that comment, to their face? I just don't get that. What part of being able to see someone overweight then gives the bully/commentator a complete picture and understanding of that person's physical and mental state and history and how they got to be where they are?
If someone is doing it purely out of genuine concern for the overweight person, then they need to grow a brain and understand what real man management is about. The carrot is usually far more effective than the stick and builds more respect, encouragement and positive results than any abuse based "motivation" ever will.
the lazy folk, are the ones who just call people fat.0 -
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No matter how much a loose I will always be fat.
Self fulfilling prophecy...
I used to think this when I was 375 lbs... now I am in no way a skinny Minnie... I am not as fat as I used to be and I work hard every day to make sure I never go back there... and I may NEVER get skinny... but I will be fit, lean and healthy... and PHAT in all the right places...0 -
:explode: could all you people with hang ups about how fat ppl are, get over yourselves.......some people are fat, some arent, some are needy, some arent, some people are racist, sexist, ageist, alcoholics, drug users, steroid abusers, smokers, short, tall, need viagra,fattist....really, shouldnt you all just get on with your lives...forums are not for slagging off, they are for support....please just take a flippin chill pill.......:explode:0
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Let me tell you something ........... My Brother is none of those ugly terms you used in your rant. Nor is he a "bully", or lazy.
My Brother called me out for being fat, told me I was fat. And I am glad he did. Because, I was FAT!.
Er, I never mentioned your brother, or you, but seeing as you took it to mean you personally, I think it is pretty obvious that you recognised much of what I wrote in your situation. Additionally, if that is how and what your brother said to you, then yes, I can't think of anything more lazy or ignorant than that. I am also at a loss as to how someone overweight can be oblivious to that fact, but some people are more self aware than others I suppose. The only quote I used was taken from the OP, so have no idea other than you recognise what I wrote in your situation and thus are getting so obviously defensive, why you would think I was so interested in your personal situation as to address my post to it?
<snip> inane pointless guff.
Perhaps yours was the post i hit reply to instead of replying generally to the thread as was my intention, even so, it beats the crap out of me how you would take my words and apply them to your situation...unless they fit, which they seem to.
P.S. you might not want to take my ticker as evidence of my journey before you start trying to tell me what I should do.0 -
OK so... it's just saying that fat-shaming isn't productive. Shocking? And people are getting upset, people would love for shaming to be productive so they can walk around telling people they are ugly, fat, slutty, dumb etc etc etc and it says a lot about the people in this thread who say it helps. I feel sorry for you, take some personal responsibility like you suggest others do and keep your crappy self esteem, insecurities and petty thoughts to yourself.0
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And you dont know me, or my brother.... I was not oblivious to the fact that I was over weight. Quite the contrary actually. Being that I have been at optimal fitness levels in the past. I guess I was being LAZY, and needed that last little knudge, to get off my azz and do something about it.
I guess that was the gist of my original post. That it is NOT detrimental to everyone. As the article the OP copied has suggested. Just as losing BF is not the same for everyone .... do you understand that a little better maybe ....
Your ignorant writings do not fit me or my brother what so ever really. It was just the broad general name calling of everybody and anybody in your post that would make it out that you were insulting all people that had "called someone out" ... quite simply.
And I really couldn't care less about your ticker, I had not even looked at it until you just had to mention it. You want a cookie or something??0
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