Why most dieters get it wrong
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What the what?0
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This thread has multiple layers of crazy, like a crazy parfait.
Everybody loves parfait!
(I however, had to google parfait when I first watched the film.0 -
Site your sources ?
Why would I need sources when it works over a vey long period? Boy, you sound like FBI director Mearing from Transformers III who just thinks about paperwork in a crisis!
How this works is not rocket science. It’s logic and based on personal, empirical data -experience. And it’s backed up from here all the way to Washington DC! If you don’t believe me, I’m willing to do a lie-detector test!
Maybe you’re cravin for an example. Let’s have one. Suppose you eat chicken curry every day for supper. I do. I love it. I know what you’re thinking, eating the same every day is boring. My wife agrees with you and she’s gaining. I’m not. And who cares when the food is delicious! Eating the same meals everyday has another advantage. After a while, you know exactly what effect the amount of ingredients has on your body. If you eat different meals every day, you don’t know what to blame if you discover that you have gained a pound.
Now, let’s say you’ve been throwing 500 grams of chicken in your daily supper, 150 mm of coconut milk (the full one, trimmed coconut milk just gives you diarrhea), 2 spoons of olive oil, some vegetables and half a packet of curry sauce. The food is so delicious that when you finish you still can eat more, so you have an ice cream after.
You now feel energized! so you go out for a 30 minute walk. When you come back you do some stuff on the computer.
Okay, this has made you gain a pound. So what do you do tomorrow? Just eat vegetables? No! You eat 400 grams chicken. Your body’s not going to know the difference. For the rest you eat like yesterday: 150 mm of coconut milk, a sauce with a different flavor for some variation, 2 spoons of olive oil and, oh heck, some other vegetables (oh, those veggies they’re all the same, it doesn’t matter what kind you pick it will hardly have any effect on your weight!) and an ice cream after. You go out for a 30 minute walk and surf the net for celebrities who are even fatter than you!
Next morning the scale tells you you gained 400 grams. You panic!
No, I’m just kidding, you never panic. You actually now are on the right track. You lost 100 grams less than yesterday! Victory! To celebrate that, you go back to eating 500 grams of chicken tomorrow night, and your body will thank you for it so that the next morning your scale says that you lost 500 grams and you’re back at my starting weight. No kidding, it works just like that. Now put in some extra potatoes and walk an hour instead of 30 minutes, I’m sure the weight comes of even more. But you don’t want that, otherwise you’ll end up looking scrawny. Come on, you’re a man. Or a woman with curves!
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So ... To sum up... OP is saying eat the same things everyday and some days eat less. Your body will "think" it's eating the same food? Huh? So if I eat 1600 calories a day of the same food if some days I eat 1500 my body is tricked? My brain is cramping.0
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No, this is just an example. The 'trick' is to change one thing that you control and that your body is not noticing.So the trick is 100 grams difference in chicken? Serious question.
Let me share some assumptions:
1. the main factor of weight loss/gain is food. Not cardio, not lifting, not sex.
2. everybody has a standard of maintenance.
3. changing this standard has an effect on your weight.
4. your body tries to adapt to the change so that the change becomes the new standard
5. by eating more if we gain and eating less if we lose we fool our body and thus be in control
Example:
Eat less - lose
Eat less - lose
Eat less - lose
Eat less - plateau
Eat more - gain
Eat more - gain
Eat more - plateau
Eat more - lose
Eat less - lose even more
Eat less - lose
etc.
It's like talking 3 steps forward and taking 2 back, or once in a while taking 4 back. Yes it's slow but it's progressively effective. As long as YOU know what you change, and your body doesn't.0 -
What I imagine happening if OP tried real science.
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One time I tricked my body in to pooping twice in one day
Got ya beat, I tricked mine into THREE in one day!!!! :laugh:
I think the OP has you beat. He seems to have a constant stream coming out of him 24 hours a day.0 -
No, this is just an example. The 'trick' is to change one thing that you control and that your body is not noticing.So the trick is 100 grams difference in chicken? Serious question.
Let me share some assumptions:
1. the main factor of weight loss/gain is food. Not cardio, not lifting, not sex.
2. everybody has a standard of maintenance.
3. changing this standard has an effect on your weight.
4. your body tries to adapt to the change so that the change becomes the new standard
5. by eating more if we gain and eating less if we lose we fool our body and thus be in control
Example:
Eat less - lose
Eat less - lose
Eat less - lose
Eat less - plateau
Eat more - gain
Eat more - gain
Eat more - plateau
Eat more - lose
Eat less - lose even more
Eat less - lose
etc.
It's like talking 3 steps forward and taking 2 back, or once in a while taking 4 back. Yes it's slow but it's progressively effective. As long as YOU know what you change, and your body doesn't.
Ohhhhhhh.
Why didn't you just say that to begin with?
Wasted my limited mental energy on chicken curry and crazy parfaits. (Which will be tomorrow's dinner, no doubt!)0 -
Dear god, I'm not sure what was worse in this thread... the loopy chicken curry diet advice, the guy who kept inviting 'only educated responses' and yet managed to include incorrect grammar/spelling in EVERY SINGLE COMMENT he made, or the chick who thought that the only way to weigh stuff is in lbs. Welcome to the metric system, love.
Faith in humanity=lost.0 -
No, this is just an example. The 'trick' is to change one thing that you control and that your body is not noticing.So the trick is 100 grams difference in chicken? Serious question.
Let me share some assumptions:
1. the main factor of weight loss/gain is food. Not cardio, not lifting, not sex.
2. everybody has a standard of maintenance.
3. changing this standard has an effect on your weight.
4. your body tries to adapt to the change so that the change becomes the new standard
5. by eating more if we gain and eating less if we lose we fool our body and thus be in control
Example:
Eat less - lose
Eat less - lose
Eat less - lose
Eat less - plateau
Eat more - gain
Eat more - gain
Eat more - plateau
Eat more - lose
Eat less - lose even more
Eat less - lose
etc.
It's like talking 3 steps forward and taking 2 back, or once in a while taking 4 back. Yes it's slow but it's progressively effective. As long as YOU know what you change, and your body doesn't.
Ah! Yes we all know about this. It's called eat more to weigh less.0 -
How freakin strange!0
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So I googled "crazy parfait" for the shiggles. First picture:
You're welcome.0 -
No, this is just an example. The 'trick' is to change one thing that you control and that your body is not noticing.So the trick is 100 grams difference in chicken? Serious question.
Let me share some assumptions:
1. the main factor of weight loss/gain is food. Not cardio, not lifting, not sex.
2. everybody has a standard of maintenance.
3. changing this standard has an effect on your weight.
4. your body tries to adapt to the change so that the change becomes the new standard
5. by eating more if we gain and eating less if we lose we fool our body and thus be in control
Example:
Eat less - lose
Eat less - lose
Eat less - lose
Eat less - plateau
Eat more - gain
Eat more - gain
Eat more - plateau
Eat more - lose
Eat less - lose even more
Eat less - lose
etc.
It's like talking 3 steps forward and taking 2 back, or once in a while taking 4 back. Yes it's slow but it's progressively effective. As long as YOU know what you change, and your body doesn't.
The above requires a lot of thinking about your food which flies in the face of the third sentence of your OP.Lowering your daily calorie intake makes you think about food. A lot. Thinking about food a lot makes you hungry.0 -
So I googled "crazy parfait" for the shiggles. First picture:
You're welcome.
omg that looks so good! lol0 -
Someone forgot to reveal their magic trick.
Maybe this is the magic trick, as someone suggested:"Trick your body?" what does that even mean? do you want me to pull a tomato from behind my ear and go "ho ho ho?"0 -
Not thinking about food all the time led to me getting fat.
Logging and thinking about food has led to me getting less fat.
OPs point is not applicable in my case, at all. I'm thinking I'm not a special snowflake on this issue.
THIS!0 -
So I googled "crazy parfait" for the shiggles. First picture:
You're welcome.
I'm in love.0 -
Yeah, I'm still confused.
Can someone explain to me what the OP's "secret" is? All I'm getting is chicken curry and a 30 minute walk...
Every day for the rest of your life.0 -
So I googled "crazy parfait" for the shiggles. First picture:
You're welcome.
I want 
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This thread gave me a migraine.
Me too. :laugh:0 -
No, I'm eating averagely above it. Look, I once dated 4 girls at the same time and none of them believed me either. One of them had bad eye sight and one had problems with reading graphs… but what they all had in common was the pre-assumption that I HAD to be wrong. Well, turned out that they actually were only one girl with MPD, so I stopped bothering to debate all together.Here's the science:
Oh I get it. You're eating below your maintenance calories so you're losing weight.
Awesome.0 -
So I googled "crazy parfait" for the shiggles. First picture:
You're welcome.
And I wanna slam my face into this. Please bring to Hawaii asap, thanks.0 -
No, this is just an example. The 'trick' is to change one thing that you control and that your body is not noticing.So the trick is 100 grams difference in chicken? Serious question.
Let me share some assumptions:
1. the main factor of weight loss/gain is food. Not cardio, not lifting, not sex.
2. everybody has a standard of maintenance.
3. changing this standard has an effect on your weight.
4. your body tries to adapt to the change so that the change becomes the new standard
5. by eating more if we gain and eating less if we lose we fool our body and thus be in control
Example:
Eat less - lose
Eat less - lose
Eat less - lose
Eat less - plateau
Eat more - gain
Eat more - gain
Eat more - plateau
Eat more - lose
Eat less - lose even more
Eat less - lose
etc.
It's like talking 3 steps forward and taking 2 back, or once in a while taking 4 back. Yes it's slow but it's progressively effective. As long as YOU know what you change, and your body doesn't.
Ohhhhhhh.
Why didn't you just say that to begin with?
Wasted my limited mental energy on chicken curry and crazy parfaits. (Which will be tomorrow's dinner, no doubt!)
Ditto.
I don't mean to be mean, OP- but I really had a hard time understanding your point behind the presentation.0 -
Reading all this makes me want to get drunk.0
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No, I'm eating averagely above it. Look, I once dated 4 girls at the same time and none of them believed me either. One of them had bad eye sight and one had problems with reading graphs… but what they all had in common was the pre-assumption that I HAD to be wrong. Well, turned out that they actually were only one girl with MPD, so I stopped bothering to debate all together.Here's the science:
Oh I get it. You're eating below your maintenance calories so you're losing weight.
Awesome.
...okay, migraine just came back.0 -
My body has been listening as my brain read this entire post. Now I can not experience the magic. :sad: :sad: :sad:0
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No, I'm eating averagely above it. Look, I once dated 4 girls at the same time and none of them believed me either. One of them had bad eye sight and one had problems with reading graphs… but what they all had in common was the pre-assumption that I HAD to be wrong. Well, turned out that they actually were only one girl with MPD, so I stopped bothering to debate all together.Here's the science:
Oh I get it. You're eating below your maintenance calories so you're losing weight.
Awesome.
hmmm....you use yourself as an example of science, use off the wall examples, use off the wall graphs....you remind me of someone......have you been sick with an unidentified illness lately?0 -
This thread gave me a migraine.
Me too. :laugh:
I already had a migraine, and this made it worse
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No, I'm eating averagely above it. Look, I once dated 4 girls at the same time and none of them believed me either. One of them had bad eye sight and one had problems with reading graphs… but what they all had in common was the pre-assumption that I HAD to be wrong. Well, turned out that they actually were only one girl with MPD, so I stopped bothering to debate all together.Here's the science:
Oh I get it. You're eating below your maintenance calories so you're losing weight.
Awesome.
Ummmmm wut? This just took a whole new route of crazy0 -
So I googled "crazy parfait" for the shiggles. First picture:
You're welcome.
Is it me, or does every item in those parfaits looks as if it were made of plastic? That doesn't even look like real food! :noway:0
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