For some of those who responded to "super serious question"
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You are not in the mythical starvation mode. You are not 70 lbs overweight and in any kind of starvation anything. You would need to be eating less than 500 calories a day for 6 months or more to even come close to something that could be described as starvation mode and by that point your body would have started consuming it's lean body mass for survival. You are not there or even close. Have you seen photos of people in concentration camps, starving people in Third World countries? When you look in the mirror is that what you see?
I realize you are craving attention for some reason and getting a lot of it here. I hope it is fulfilling whatever empty place it is that you need to fill.
....This too.0 -
Whenever you finish with the childish antics, you might consider sending some apologies and FRs to some of the many people you've insulted in your barrage of threads, since you claim to actually be looking for sound advice from successful people. But you might want to consider the possibility that you don't know everything about weight loss yet and that other people might know more than you. Quite frankly, if you already knew everything about weight loss, you wouldn't be overweight.
ACTUALLY, they were rude first. . .I am only defending myself. I'm 20, you're 30, and responding to me. But I am childish?
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Will there be a sequel to this titled "For some of those who responded to For some of those who responded to "super serious question"" ? I can hardly wait. I'm super serious.0
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You really had to post the same thread twice?0
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Here is some light reading for you on the subject.
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/761810-the-starvation-mode-myth-again
http://blogs.webmd.com/pamela-peeke-md/2009/07/stop-starving-yourselves.html
and here's some legit advice, because my fitness pal is not a medical site.
I also posted several other links.
"Starvation mode" is nothing more than your body's metabolism slowing down a bit after an extended period of a VLCD, becoming more efficient at utilizing the calories that you DO consume. Your body doesn't enter it overnight.
obviously, because it took me 3 years to enter starvation mode, but i guess its just a myth right? how else would i be over weight if i barley eat???? other than the most recent pregnancy which is responsible for 20-something of the 70 pounds i have to loose. i didn't get fat eating air. . .
If I were you, I would suspect a thyroid issue or something like PCOS... or just general denial of how calorie dense the foods I was consuming actually are or an extreme underestimation of how much I was actually eating or not really understanding my caloric needs long before I would assume that at 70lbs overweight I was in starvation mode.
I doubt its an extreme underestimation. I just ate for the first time today at 8 pm
not sure about thyroid, i dont think i have it. but then again, I'm no doctor, and never brought it up to a doctor.
i dont even know what pcos is, i am google-ing it now0 -
Whenever you finish with the childish antics, you might consider sending some apologies and FRs to some of the many people you've insulted in your barrage of threads, since you claim to actually be looking for sound advice from successful people. But you might want to consider the possibility that you don't know everything about weight loss yet and that other people might know more than you. Quite frankly, if you already knew everything about weight loss, you wouldn't be overweight.
ACTUALLY, they were rude first. . .I am only defending myself. I'm 20, you're 30, and responding to me. But I am childish?
:noway:
Ok, I'm 55 and I say you are being childish and attention seeking. Ever hear of turn the other cheek? You only make yourself look worse by lashing out at anyone who disagrees with you.0 -
If I were you, I would suspect a thyroid issue or something like PCOS... or just general denial of how calorie dense the foods I was consuming actually are or an extreme underestimation of how much I was actually eating or not really understanding my caloric needs long before I would assume that at 70lbs overweight I was in starvation mode.
I doubt its an extreme underestimation. I just ate for the first time today at 8 pm
not sure about thyroid, i dont think i have it. but then again, I'm no doctor, and never brought it up to a doctor.
i dont even know what pcos is, i am google-ing it now
What does the time you eat have to do with anything? I didn't eat until almost 8pm and I consumed about 1700 calories.
Edited to crop out obnoxiously long quote... and to add... of course you immediately jumped to the medical conditions I threw out there rather than the issues revolving around accountability and self control. I think we have found the underlying issue.0 -
But I am childish?
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Well, yes.0 -
Here is some light reading for you on the subject.
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/761810-the-starvation-mode-myth-again
http://blogs.webmd.com/pamela-peeke-md/2009/07/stop-starving-yourselves.html
and here's some legit advice, because my fitness pal is not a medical site.
I also posted several other links.
"Starvation mode" is nothing more than your body's metabolism slowing down a bit after an extended period of a VLCD, becoming more efficient at utilizing the calories that you DO consume. Your body doesn't enter it overnight.
obviously, because it took me 3 years to enter starvation mode, but i guess its just a myth right? how else would i be over weight if i barley eat???? other than the most recent pregnancy which is responsible for 20-something of the 70 pounds i have to loose. i didn't get fat eating air. . .
If I were you, I would suspect a thyroid issue or something like PCOS... or just general denial of how calorie dense the foods I was consuming actually are or an extreme underestimation of how much I was actually eating or not really understanding my caloric needs long before I would assume that at 70lbs overweight I was in starvation mode.
I doubt its an extreme underestimation. I just ate for the first time today at 8 pm
not sure about thyroid, i dont think i have it. but then again, I'm no doctor, and never brought it up to a doctor.
i dont even know what pcos is, i am google-ing it now
Polycystic ovary syndrome (PCOS) is one of the most common female endocrine disorders. PCOS is a complex, heterogeneous disorder of uncertain etiology, but there is strong evidence that it can, to a large degree, be classified as a genetic disease.[1][2][3]
PCOS produces symptoms in approximately 5% to 10% of women of reproductive age (12–45 years old). It is thought to be one of the leading causes of female subfertility[4][5][6] and the most frequent endocrine problem in women of reproductive age.[7]
The principal features are anovulation, resulting in irregular menstruation, amenorrhea, ovulation-related infertility, and polycystic ovaries; excessive amounts or effects of androgenic (masculinizing) hormones, resulting in acne and hirsutism; and insulin resistance, often associated with obesity, Type 2 diabetes, and high cholesterol levels.[8] The symptoms and severity of the syndrome vary greatly among affected women.
this looks like a possibility. . .
maybe i should check with my doctor. considering i just had an ectopic pregnancy, obesity, and acne, and my cholesterol was a tad bit high. . .
who would have guessed i would have learned something new tonight.0 -
Here is some light reading for you on the subject.
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/761810-the-starvation-mode-myth-again
http://blogs.webmd.com/pamela-peeke-md/2009/07/stop-starving-yourselves.html
and here's some legit advice, because my fitness pal is not a medical site.
I also posted several other links.
"Starvation mode" is nothing more than your body's metabolism slowing down a bit after an extended period of a VLCD, becoming more efficient at utilizing the calories that you DO consume. Your body doesn't enter it overnight.
obviously, because it took me 3 years to enter starvation mode, but i guess its just a myth right? how else would i be over weight if i barley eat???? other than the most recent pregnancy which is responsible for 20-something of the 70 pounds i have to loose. i didn't get fat eating air. . .
If I were you, I would suspect a thyroid issue or something like PCOS... or just general denial of how calorie dense the foods I was consuming actually are or an extreme underestimation of how much I was actually eating or not really understanding my caloric needs long before I would assume that at 70lbs overweight I was in starvation mode.
I doubt its an extreme underestimation. I just ate for the first time today at 8 pm
not sure about thyroid, i dont think i have it. but then again, I'm no doctor, and never brought it up to a doctor.
i dont even know what pcos is, i am google-ing it now
Congratulations. You've sort of discovered IF.... or just being a parent. Some days I don't eat till 9.
You do have a thyroid. Go to a doctor and ask about a thyroid disorder. It requires a blood test, so if you can't stand blood than it's probably better to just whine about it.
PCOS is polycystic ovary syndrome. I'm a man and I know that....
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This is a class thread I've been heartily lolling0
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who would have guessed i would have learned something new tonight.
You should have learned quite a bit tonight. :flowerforyou:0 -
Never mind.0
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i'm very upset that it took this long for the following image to appear.
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Here is some light reading for you on the subject.
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/761810-the-starvation-mode-myth-again
http://blogs.webmd.com/pamela-peeke-md/2009/07/stop-starving-yourselves.html
and here's some legit advice, because my fitness pal is not a medical site.
I also posted several other links.
"Starvation mode" is nothing more than your body's metabolism slowing down a bit after an extended period of a VLCD, becoming more efficient at utilizing the calories that you DO consume. Your body doesn't enter it overnight.
obviously, because it took me 3 years to enter starvation mode, but i guess its just a myth right? how else would i be over weight if i barley eat???? other than the most recent pregnancy which is responsible for 20-something of the 70 pounds i have to loose. i didn't get fat eating air. . .
If I were you, I would suspect a thyroid issue or something like PCOS... or just general denial of how calorie dense the foods I was consuming actually are or an extreme underestimation of how much I was actually eating or not really understanding my caloric needs long before I would assume that at 70lbs overweight I was in starvation mode.
I doubt its an extreme underestimation. I just ate for the first time today at 8 pm
not sure about thyroid, i dont think i have it. but then again, I'm no doctor, and never brought it up to a doctor.
i dont even know what pcos is, i am google-ing it now
What does the time you eat have to do with anything? I didn't eat until almost 8pm and I consumed about 1700 calories.
I ate a salad, with balsamic vineger, and one cup of pasta, and you are more than welcome to check my food diary on my profile for the past few days.0 -
Here is some light reading for you on the subject.
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/761810-the-starvation-mode-myth-again
http://blogs.webmd.com/pamela-peeke-md/2009/07/stop-starving-yourselves.html
and here's some legit advice, because my fitness pal is not a medical site.
I also posted several other links.
"Starvation mode" is nothing more than your body's metabolism slowing down a bit after an extended period of a VLCD, becoming more efficient at utilizing the calories that you DO consume. Your body doesn't enter it overnight.
obviously, because it took me 3 years to enter starvation mode, but i guess its just a myth right? how else would i be over weight if i barley eat???? other than the most recent pregnancy which is responsible for 20-something of the 70 pounds i have to loose. i didn't get fat eating air. . .
If I were you, I would suspect a thyroid issue or something like PCOS... or just general denial of how calorie dense the foods I was consuming actually are or an extreme underestimation of how much I was actually eating or not really understanding my caloric needs long before I would assume that at 70lbs overweight I was in starvation mode.
I doubt its an extreme underestimation. I just ate for the first time today at 8 pm
not sure about thyroid, i dont think i have it. but then again, I'm no doctor, and never brought it up to a doctor.
i dont even know what pcos is, i am google-ing it now
What does the time you eat have to do with anything? I didn't eat until almost 8pm and I consumed about 1700 calories.
I ate a salad, with balsamic vineger, and one cup of pasta, and you are more than welcome to check my food diary on my profile for the past few days.
Why are you bragging about having an ED?0 -
Whenever you finish with the childish antics, you might consider sending some apologies and FRs to some of the many people you've insulted in your barrage of threads, since you claim to actually be looking for sound advice from successful people. But you might want to consider the possibility that you don't know everything about weight loss yet and that other people might know more than you. Quite frankly, if you already knew everything about weight loss, you wouldn't be overweight.
ACTUALLY, they were rude first. . .I am only defending myself. I'm 20, you're 30, and responding to me. But I am childish?
:noway:
That's exactly what I'm saying.
Perhaps you missed it, but I offered you a way out of this embarrassing cluster****. Just stop now, stop defending yourself against imaginary bullies, and get real with yourself and your plan to tackle your weight. I told you yesterday I thought the whole thing read as an excuse to not lose the weight, I now suspect that this lashing out is the same thing. You'll quit MFP because the bullies attacked you, say MFP is horrible. Just turn this ship around right now. Apologize, ask for help, don't lash out at people who try and help you. This community will take you back and help you get on the right track.0 -
If I were you, I would suspect a thyroid issue or something like PCOS... or just general denial of how calorie dense the foods I was consuming actually are or an extreme underestimation of how much I was actually eating or not really understanding my caloric needs long before I would assume that at 70lbs overweight I was in starvation mode.
I doubt its an extreme underestimation. I just ate for the first time today at 8 pm
not sure about thyroid, i dont think i have it. but then again, I'm no doctor, and never brought it up to a doctor.
i dont even know what pcos is, i am google-ing it now
What does the time you eat have to do with anything? I didn't eat until almost 8pm and I consumed about 1700 calories.
Edited to crop out obnoxiously long quote... and to add... of course you immediately jumped to the medical conditions I threw out there rather than the issues revolving around accountability and self control. I think we have found the underlying issue.
Quoting myself because I edited it long after people responded.
you suggested it, not me...
would i like to have a medical condition? uh,no. i said possibility, not definitely. Ive already stated i am over weight because of my eating habit.0 -
Are you weighing everything you eat? That is the only way to ensure that you're logging accurately. Eyeballing it can lead to a gross underestimation of calories consumed. Are you logging every single day? Or do you not like to see the days you overeat so you don't log? If you're not logging consistently or truthfully there is no way to tell if you are actually in a caloric deficit.0
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who would have guessed i would have learned something new tonight.
Not me. But now that the impossible has occurred I'm leaving this thread on a hopeful, if fictional, note. Thanks for the window into another world OP and good luck.0 -
Dear OP,
I hate how dismissive you are to the process of losing weight. You act like because you've made the decision to do it all of a sudden 100 lbs are going to drop off and you're going to be left with loose skin all over the place. What you're talking about doing isn't easy and takes months and months of dedication and hard work.
If you want to lose weight read the forums and learn, if you don't then go away and stop demeaning the process that others are struggling through on a daily basis saying they're going to look "gross" according to your preconceived notion of attractiveness because they are trying to become healthy.
Healthy weight loss is a positive thing no matter what your opinion is and I don't want your bad attitude potentially turning someone else off or giving them an excuse not to lose weight and live a healthier life.
If I was you I'd be more worried about your boyfriend finding you unattractive because of your personality, not your looks. And for the sake of humanity please do not reproduce any more.
Have you received enough attention yet to leave it alone or do you always have to get the last word in?0 -
Whenever you finish with the childish antics, you might consider sending some apologies and FRs to some of the many people you've insulted in your barrage of threads, since you claim to actually be looking for sound advice from successful people. But you might want to consider the possibility that you don't know everything about weight loss yet and that other people might know more than you. Quite frankly, if you already knew everything about weight loss, you wouldn't be overweight.
ACTUALLY, they were rude first. . .I am only defending myself. I'm 20, you're 30, and responding to me. But I am childish?
:noway:
That's exactly what I'm saying.
Perhaps you missed it, but I offered you a way out of this embarrassing cluster****. Just stop now, stop defending yourself against imaginary bullies, and get real with yourself and your plan to tackle your weight. I told you yesterday I thought the whole thing read as an excuse to not lose the weight, I now suspect that this lashing out is the same thing. You'll quit MFP because the bullies attacked you, say MFP is horrible. Just turn this ship around right now. Apologize, ask for help, don't lash out at people who try and help you. This community will take you back and help you get on the right track.
I read this using Dr. Phil's voice. Thank you.
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Whenever you finish with the childish antics, you might consider sending some apologies and FRs to some of the many people you've insulted in your barrage of threads, since you claim to actually be looking for sound advice from successful people. But you might want to consider the possibility that you don't know everything about weight loss yet and that other people might know more than you. Quite frankly, if you already knew everything about weight loss, you wouldn't be overweight.
ACTUALLY, they were rude first. . .I am only defending myself. I'm 20, you're 30, and responding to me. But I am childish?
:noway:
That's exactly what I'm saying.
Perhaps you missed it, but I offered you a way out of this embarrassing cluster****. Just stop now, stop defending yourself against imaginary bullies, and get real with yourself and your plan to tackle your weight. I told you yesterday I thought the whole thing read as an excuse to not lose the weight, I now suspect that this lashing out is the same thing. You'll quit MFP because the bullies attacked you, say MFP is horrible. Just turn this ship around right now. Apologize, ask for help, don't lash out at people who try and help you. This community will take you back and help you get on the right track.
ummmmmm why would i delete my profile???
its going to take more than this....
but you are entitled to feel how you feel, but i am not apologizing, as i am not the only one in the wrong. And no excuses. if i wanted excuses, i wouldn't have even signed up for this site. I am an adult, i chose to begin loosing weight, this isn't something i am being forced to do. why would i do something i didnt want to do?0 -
Whenever you finish with the childish antics, you might consider sending some apologies and FRs to some of the many people you've insulted in your barrage of threads, since you claim to actually be looking for sound advice from successful people. But you might want to consider the possibility that you don't know everything about weight loss yet and that other people might know more than you. Quite frankly, if you already knew everything about weight loss, you wouldn't be overweight.
ACTUALLY, they were rude first. . .I am only defending myself. I'm 20, you're 30, and responding to me. But I am childish?
:noway:
That's exactly what I'm saying.
Perhaps you missed it, but I offered you a way out of this embarrassing cluster****.
I think the op needs an air hostess to show her the exits!0 -
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Whenever you finish with the childish antics, you might consider sending some apologies and FRs to some of the many people you've insulted in your barrage of threads, since you claim to actually be looking for sound advice from successful people. But you might want to consider the possibility that you don't know everything about weight loss yet and that other people might know more than you. Quite frankly, if you already knew everything about weight loss, you wouldn't be overweight.
ACTUALLY, they were rude first. . .I am only defending myself. I'm 20, you're 30, and responding to me. But I am childish?
:noway:
That's exactly what I'm saying.
Perhaps you missed it, but I offered you a way out of this embarrassing cluster****. Just stop now, stop defending yourself against imaginary bullies, and get real with yourself and your plan to tackle your weight. I told you yesterday I thought the whole thing read as an excuse to not lose the weight, I now suspect that this lashing out is the same thing. You'll quit MFP because the bullies attacked you, say MFP is horrible. Just turn this ship around right now. Apologize, ask for help, don't lash out at people who try and help you. This community will take you back and help you get on the right track.
ummmmmm why would i delete my profile???
its going to take more than this....
but you are entitled to feel how you feel, but i am not apologizing, as i am not the only one in the wrong. And no excuses. if i wanted excuses, i wouldn't have even signed up for this site. I am an adult, i chose to begin loosing weight, this isn't something i am being forced to do. why would i do something i didnt want to do?
I'm done here. Good luck to you.0 -
Dear OP,
I hate how dismissive you are to the process of losing weight. You act like because you've made the decision to do it all of a sudden 100 lbs are going to drop off and you're going to be left with loose skin all over the place. What you're talking about doing isn't easy and takes months and months of dedication and hard work.
If you want to lose weight read the forums and learn, if you don't then go away and stop demeaning the process that others are struggling through on a daily basis saying they're going to look "gross" according to your preconceived notion of attractiveness because they are trying to become healthy.
Healthy weight loss is a positive thing no matter what your opinion is and I don't want your bad attitude potentially turning someone else off or giving them an excuse not to lose weight and live a healthier life.
If I was you I'd be more worried about your boyfriend finding you unattractive because of your personality, not your looks. And for the sake of humanity please do not reproduce any more.
Have you received enough attention yet to leave it alone or do you always have to get the last word in?
EXCUSE ME??? first of all hes a HUSBAND, not a boyfriend.
and HOW DARE YOU bring my daughter into this! she has nothing to do with this at all! you are a low life, punk *kitten*, childish little boy for that statement. i can't believe you even thought that was okay to post! A child is innocent and you have no buisness slandering her!0 -
Dear OP,
I hate how dismissive you are to the process of losing weight. You act like because you've made the decision to do it all of a sudden 100 lbs are going to drop off and you're going to be left with loose skin all over the place. What you're talking about doing isn't easy and takes months and months of dedication and hard work.
If you want to lose weight read the forums and learn, if you don't then go away and stop demeaning the process that others are struggling through on a daily basis saying they're going to look "gross" according to your preconceived notion of attractiveness because they are trying to become healthy.
Healthy weight loss is a positive thing no matter what your opinion is and I don't want your bad attitude potentially turning someone else off or giving them an excuse not to lose weight and live a healthier life.
If I was you I'd be more worried about your boyfriend finding you unattractive because of your personality, not your looks. And for the sake of humanity please do not reproduce any more.
Have you received enough attention yet to leave it alone or do you always have to get the last word in?
duuude, yes!!! perfect!!!
OP thinks that just because she decided she wanted to lose weight, it would all come off in two weeks and she'd be left looking like "a pile of soggy mudcakes."0 -
:indifferent: wth did i just read.... I've wasted sooooo much time reading this...
Why is this thread still here 8 pages later and not locked??
and i just checked out your diary... seriously? are you logging properly?? or just forgetting? because the highest ive seen is approx 900cal... that is NOT good. eat more!0 -
Not everyone is going to be successful. That takes an honest assessment of where you are and where you want to be, determination, and hard work. So either you do or don't. It's your life. It honestly makes no difference to anyone else. Best of luck. :flowerforyou:0
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