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  • brower47
    brower47 Posts: 16,356 Member
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    Maybe its 2 countries divided by a common language, but I wish you wouldnt refer to other women as sluts.Doesnt matter if theyre scantily clad or models or in the glamour industry theyre not sluts, theyre just people.

    ^^^THIS^^^

    The term slut really bugs the F**K out of me. You don't know these women, so how you can you just arbitrarily call them sluts? I mean I know what the image implies...sexually strong and independent women who will do what and who they wish, but slut?

    You already described what they were doing, and how they were dressed, was it really necessary to then to call them a derogatory name? Especially if they are what inspire you to stay on track?

    Maybe it shouldn't rile me, but it does.

    Update: Slut is not a derogatory term, especially when not used as a derogatory term as the OP in no way did. Nothing wrong with being a slut.

    What a load of crap. It is totally a derogatory term whether it was intended or not. This is not 'taking it back' this is making it acceptable for other people to say it and demoralize people based upon first impressions.

    I don't accept that it is ok for some and not for others. Same follows through with ***** and other terms.

    If you can't say it to everyone of any gender, race, creed, orientation, etc without offence, then it's offensive. Simple.

    And why was she calling them sluts in the first place? Because of how they are dressed? How is it a good term? Explain how it was a positive statement if it was in respect how they were presented for an advertisement.

    It was a label based upon how they were dressed and posed. A label that is synonymous with 'loose morals' and sexual deviance that is deemed as a negative attribute by the general public - not something you'd want your daughter called or being seen as.

    So no, it wasn't ok. It's not ok. And I'm pretty f'n liberal in my opinions.

    I've been a slut. It was fun.

    You can only be demoralized if you let yourself be demoralized. It's a state of mind that comes from within. I can't be demoralized unless I give someone the power to do so.

    They look like they enjoy sex and aren't afraid to advertise that fact. That's how it is a good term. They haven't let others tell them that the way they are dressed or posed is a bad thing.

    You place the word slut as synonymous with 'loose morals' and 'sexual deviance". I do not. Many others do not.

    Maybe, just maybe, the way you view the world isn't the way everyone else views the world.
  • LiftAllThePizzas
    LiftAllThePizzas Posts: 17,857 Member
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    Maybe its 2 countries divided by a common language, but I wish you wouldnt refer to other women as sluts.Doesnt matter if theyre scantily clad or models or in the glamour industry theyre not sluts, theyre just people.

    ^^^THIS^^^

    The term slut really bugs the F**K out of me. You don't know these women, so how you can you just arbitrarily call them sluts? I mean I know what the image implies...sexually strong and independent women who will do what and who they wish, but slut?

    You already described what they were doing, and how they were dressed, was it really necessary to then to call them a derogatory name? Especially if they are what inspire you to stay on track?

    Maybe it shouldn't rile me, but it does.

    Update: Slut is not a derogatory term, especially when not used as a derogatory term as the OP in no way did. Nothing wrong with being a slut.

    What a load of crap. It is totally a derogatory term whether it was intended or not. This is not 'taking it back' this is making it acceptable for other people to say it and demoralize people based upon first impressions.

    I don't accept that it is ok for some and not for others. Same follows through with bi**ch and other terms.

    If you can't say it to everyone of any gender, race, creed, orientation, etc without offence, then it's offensive. Simple.

    And why was she calling them sluts in the first place? Because of how they are dressed? How is it a good term? Explain how it was a positive statement if it was in respect how they were presented for an advertisement.

    It was a label based upon how they were dressed and posed. A label that is synonymous with 'loose morals' and sexual deviance that is deemed as a negative attribute by the general public - not something you'd want your daughter called or being seen as.

    So no, it wasn't ok. It's not ok. And I'm pretty f'n liberal in my opinions.
    You equate liking sex with "loose morals and sexual deviance" but you think you are liberal? LMAO
  • BeachIron
    BeachIron Posts: 6,490 Member
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    It's sad that apparently there are still people who think women are not supposed to like sex, or enjoy it, or think about it, or have a lot of it and therefore think "slut" must be an insult.

    Erm... I think this is a bit *kitten* over tit. To me, there is no need for use of derogatory terms like 'slut' exactly because it should be normal for women 'to like sex, or enjoy it, or think about it, or have a lot of it'. There is no need for an extra term. I didn't need to be termed a 'slut' when I chose not to be monogamous, and I'm not suddenly better or worse in some way now that I am. I was a woman then and now.

    It's called 'taking it back'. You work to remove the negative connotation so that idiots who would use it for ill, not longer have any power to do so.

    Personally I'd rather prefer an acceptance that women have the same range of desires as men, and men don't need a negative label for such behaviour, so why should women. And in the case in point, the appearance of the women is causing an assumption about their behaviour, which is also gender specific. Reclaiming a term only works if you happen to think you're somehow different from the norm in your behaviour, and being a sexual being is the norm.

    Sorry if logic a bit jumpy. Need bed.

    I've heard and referred to many of my male friends as sluts. It's not gender specific. I find it interesting that you do see it that way.

    I'm pretty sure that "man *kitten*" is the appropriate term . . .

    I've used both but I think slut is more correct since the word *kitten* denotes an exchange of services for money. Most of the time, there is no money exchanged.

    Slip the guy a 20, he won't complain. Trust me.

    Personally, I think the person doing more of the work should get slipped the 20. Fair's fair.

    $20 so the chick in on top? Okay, you win
  • brower47
    brower47 Posts: 16,356 Member
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    I'm pretty sure that "man *kitten*" is the appropriate term . . .

    I've used both but I think slut is more correct since the word *kitten* denotes an exchange of services for money. Most of the time, there is no money exchanged.

    how convenient of you to completely ignore the $60 I've paid for drinks at the bar.

    /shug

    I didn't force you to buy me those drinks. That was your choice, dog. :wink:
  • GTAFrank
    GTAFrank Posts: 730 Member
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    I've been a slut. It was fun.

    Same!

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  • MyChocolateDiet
    MyChocolateDiet Posts: 22,281 Member
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    Some offer help ,some look for agurments. This is truely why we as a nation our going down in a flam of troubles .wake up people !!!!
    I believe that poor spelling is the real downfall of this nation.

    Now I want Flan.
  • brower47
    brower47 Posts: 16,356 Member
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    I'm pretty sure that "man *kitten*" is the appropriate term . . .

    I've used both but I think slut is more correct since the word *kitten* denotes an exchange of services for money. Most of the time, there is no money exchanged.

    how convenient of you to completely ignore the $60 I've paid for drinks at the bar.

    IN for free drinks!

    I like my gin martini's dirty. Or errr is that a bad deragotory word? I like my Gin Martini's with a splash of Olive Juice.

    Gin martini's should be a derogatory word. Vodka or GTFO.
  • MyChocolateDiet
    MyChocolateDiet Posts: 22,281 Member
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    I'm pretty sure that "man *kitten*" is the appropriate term . . .

    I've used both but I think slut is more correct since the word *kitten* denotes an exchange of services for money. Most of the time, there is no money exchanged.

    how convenient of you to completely ignore the $60 I've paid for drinks at the bar.

    IN for free drinks!

    I like my gin martini's dirty. Or errr is that a bad deragotory word? I like my Gin Martini's with a splash of Olive Juice.

    Gin martini's should be a derogatory word. Vodka or GTFO.

    Vodka gives me a headache. So must be gin.
  • DavPul
    DavPul Posts: 61,406 Member
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    What a load of crap. It is totally a derogatory term whether it was intended or not. This is not 'taking it back' this is making it acceptable for other people to say it and demoralize people based upon first impressions.

    I don't accept that it is ok for some and not for others. Same follows through with bi**ch and other terms.

    If you can't say it to everyone of any gender, race, creed, orientation, etc without offence, then it's offensive. Simple.

    And why was she calling them sluts in the first place? Because of how they are dressed? How is it a good term? Explain how it was a positive statement if it was in respect how they were presented for an advertisement.

    It was a label based upon how they were dressed and posed. A label that is synonymous with 'loose morals' and sexual deviance that is deemed as a negative attribute by the general public - not something you'd want your daughter called or being seen as.

    So no, it wasn't ok. It's not ok. And I'm pretty f'n liberal in my opinions.

    you say "loose morals and sexual deviance" as if it's a bad thing
  • LiftAllThePizzas
    LiftAllThePizzas Posts: 17,857 Member
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    I'm pretty sure that "man *kitten*" is the appropriate term . . .

    I've used both but I think slut is more correct since the word *kitten* denotes an exchange of services for money. Most of the time, there is no money exchanged.

    how convenient of you to completely ignore the $60 I've paid for drinks at the bar.

    /shug

    I didn't force you to buy me those drinks. That was your choice, dog. :wink:
    Dog is derogatory. I'm all up in arms.
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  • brower47
    brower47 Posts: 16,356 Member
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    I'm pretty sure that "man *kitten*" is the appropriate term . . .

    I've used both but I think slut is more correct since the word *kitten* denotes an exchange of services for money. Most of the time, there is no money exchanged.

    how convenient of you to completely ignore the $60 I've paid for drinks at the bar.

    IN for free drinks!

    I like my gin martini's dirty. Or errr is that a bad deragotory word? I like my Gin Martini's with a splash of Olive Juice.

    Gin martini's should be a derogatory word. Vodka or GTFO.

    Vodka gives me a headache. So must be gin.

    I guess we're not all the same after all. Fine, drink your gin, that just leaves more of the good stuff for me. :wink:
  • MyChocolateDiet
    MyChocolateDiet Posts: 22,281 Member
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    I'm pretty sure that "man *kitten*" is the appropriate term . . .

    I've used both but I think slut is more correct since the word *kitten* denotes an exchange of services for money. Most of the time, there is no money exchanged.

    how convenient of you to completely ignore the $60 I've paid for drinks at the bar.

    /shug

    I didn't force you to buy me those drinks. That was your choice, dog. :wink:
    Dog is derogatory. I'm all up in arms.
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    Don't stress out, just have another martini dawg. Gin or vodka?

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  • cmriverside
    cmriverside Posts: 34,104 Member
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    Did someone say Tequila?



    No? ok. Carry on.
  • brower47
    brower47 Posts: 16,356 Member
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    Did someone say Tequila?



    No? ok. Carry on.

    Only if I can chase it with diet A&W root beer. I know, I know but it's what I likes.
  • cmriverside
    cmriverside Posts: 34,104 Member
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    Did someone say Tequila?



    No? ok. Carry on.

    Only if I can chase it with diet A&W root beer. I know, I know but it's what I likes.

    interesting.


    I like turtles.
  • MyChocolateDiet
    MyChocolateDiet Posts: 22,281 Member
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    Did someone say Tequila?



    No? ok. Carry on.

    Only if I can chase it with diet A&W root beer. I know, I know but it's what I likes.

    interesting.


    I like turtles.

    If all these turtle jokes are in reference to my recent weight loss stall/slow down, I am not amused. :indifferent:
  • cmriverside
    cmriverside Posts: 34,104 Member
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    Did someone say Tequila?



    No? ok. Carry on.

    Only if I can chase it with diet A&W root beer. I know, I know but it's what I likes.

    interesting.


    I like turtles.

    If all these turtle jokes are in reference to my recent weight loss stall/slow down, I am not amused. :indifferent:

    Hey! Try TDEE minus somemagicalpercentage.

    Because that a l w a y s works

    *nods*
  • MyChocolateDiet
    MyChocolateDiet Posts: 22,281 Member
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    Meanwhile everyone's anger over my use of the word slut somehow caused my thread to be moved out of Motivation and Support even though I placed it there on purpose due to seriously wondering why the loss of my business card made me feel so sad and like giving up.

    Also Meanwhile there are about a million people in "what should I be for Halloween?" threads having a ball being "slutty" everything and having a grand ole time with that word? Wha?
  • trogalicious
    trogalicious Posts: 4,584 Member
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    like it says... keep on keepin' on.
  • MyChocolateDiet
    MyChocolateDiet Posts: 22,281 Member
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    Did someone say Tequila?



    No? ok. Carry on.

    Only if I can chase it with diet A&W root beer. I know, I know but it's what I likes.

    interesting.


    I like turtles.

    If all these turtle jokes are in reference to my recent weight loss stall/slow down, I am not amused. :indifferent:

    Hey! Try TDEE minus somemagicalpercentage.

    Because that a l w a y s works

    *nods*

    LOL inorite. Meanwhile I was just gonna try ACTUALLY trying as soon as summer vacay is over.