October 2018 Monthly Running Challenge
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biketheworld wrote: »
@MobyCarp - I am in complete and total awe that you can a full marathon just 2 weeks ago and you've jumped right back in with more races. My hat is off to you!
Channeling @PastorVincent - What I did there is probably not the best thing for a random MFP member to try. It worked out well this time, but . . .
In 2016, I ran Boston then turned around and ran Flower City Half 6 days later. Result: Lots of couch time.
In 2017, I ran Boston the turned around and ran a PR 10K 13 days later: Result: I got away with it, but it set back Boston recovery by about a week.
In early 2018, I ran Boston then turned around and ran the same 10K as 2017 13 days later, but made no effort to make it a PR. Result: I got away with it, no PR, my team didn't make the podium as it could have if I'd pushed for a minute faster finish, and I'm totally OK with hurting the team's result to reduce my chance of injury.
So it really took me 3 tries to learn how to understand what my body is telling me in marathon recovery. This time, I didn't decide to run the races until after my body indicated that I could run a race, though perhaps not an "A" race. It wasn't really as simple as deciding, I'm going to run a marathon then run a bunch of other races. It was more like deciding, I'm going to run a marathon with the major goal of finishing uninjured and having an easy recovery; then see how well I'm doing versus that goal before committing to the races after the marathon.5 -
QM race report?
Weather was perfect at the start, clear mid-low 50's (50F=10C) very light breeze.
Miles 1-2 were fine. Did not feel strong, tried so hard to rein it in but i was surrounded by strong runners, not the walkers that stage incorrectly. So i hung in there, tried to find the pace screen on my watch, that was still set up for interval training... Gave up, just tried to go by breathing.
Mile 3-4 it became clear that i would not run this without pain. Mile 4 walked a bit and had a full strength Gatorade (great race venue, but i did expect 1/2 water).
Mile 5. Plauged with left ITB pain and right hip pain, i tried to talk myself up. But every step hurt more than the last. 5.80 walked some more.
Made it to 6 miles and struggled overcoming the bodily resistance. Last bit it became evident, I really do need that next appointment with the doc. I kept catching myself holding my breath, somehow hoping it'd help with the pain. It did not.
Made it across the finish line. Awesome medal, btw I'll have to add a pic to Strava, i was so pained rum dum that i had no joy in completing this race. Then guilt for not being able to hold the memory of @KeepRunningFatboy . Eating danishes also did not help trick the brain from processing the crybaby knee/itb.
As of now, I'm crossing all my races off. Well, Hawaii is still on. I can do 2 mile relays. And im cutting my runs back to 2-3 miles.
Waited on Eric to finish the half. Froze. Stiffened up. Shuffled half way back to the hotel before Eric caught up to me and offered to get the car so i didn't have to walk another block. I'm in sad sad shape. Hot shower and bath, hot coffee i felt better. Right hip is cranky. Left itb is horrid. I'll fetch the ice pack soon.
As you may have noticed on Strava, i placed 2nd AG. Eric 1st AG. I just have no happy in it since it seems I'm done racing/runnin for a while.... again.. or again and again... Or is it again, again and again... (Yes overly dramatic poor me).
Tldr eh, go on to the next post.
Sorry, it sucked, but man, still nailed an age group placement? You're A BEAST!
Get better, and then you can get back out there.3 -
biketheworld wrote: »
@MobyCarp - I am in complete and total awe that you can a full marathon just 2 weeks ago and you've jumped right back in with more races. My hat is off to you!
Channeling @PastorVincent - What I did there is probably not the best thing for a random MFP member to try. It worked out well this time, but . . .
In 2016, I ran Boston then turned around and ran Flower City Half 6 days later. Result: Lots of couch time.
In 2017, I ran Boston the turned around and ran a PR 10K 13 days later: Result: I got away with it, but it set back Boston recovery by about a week.
In early 2018, I ran Boston then turned around and ran the same 10K as 2017 13 days later, but made no effort to make it a PR. Result: I got away with it, no PR, my team didn't make the podium as it could have if I'd pushed for a minute faster finish, and I'm totally OK with hurting the team's result to reduce my chance of injury.
So it really took me 3 tries to learn how to understand what my body is telling me in marathon recovery. This time, I didn't decide to run the races until after my body indicated that I could run a race, though perhaps not an "A" race. It wasn't really as simple as deciding, I'm going to run a marathon then run a bunch of other races. It was more like deciding, I'm going to run a marathon with the major goal of finishing uninjured and having an easy recovery; then see how well I'm doing versus that goal before committing to the races after the marathon.
Yeah, seriously. Please do not do as I do. I push all kinds of limits and break all kinds of rules. Most of which I never post here for I know most would get hurt if they did what I did.
Thing is I am smarter about it than it seems. When I ran the 50k 6 days after a Marathon PR, I was prepared to DNS if I was not feeling up to it. I have DNS several races over the years. I am pretty good about paying attention to warning signs (most of the time) so I can push a bit harder and know when to back off.
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@Elise4270 AG place despite the pain🤯. /hug so next year after recovering you will PR this one right0
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This is the most awesome coffee mug I have ever beheld! It was given to me by my awesome baby sister on the day I performed her wedding! Consider the bar raised for all future wedding gifts.
(click through and see both sides!)17 -
Today I got to run 10.04 miles in the anchor leg of the tribute to Dennis. Some of it was great, some of it was a slog, and my butt is still cold over an hour later even after a long hot shower*, but I wouldn’t trade any of it for the world. I feel amazingly grateful that I got to run today, and that I’m a part of this great group. Thanks, everybody. And thank you, @KeepRunningFatboy.
Next week I’ve got three easy runs planned, a couple of days off, and then my second half marathon. I’m not going to say I’m feeling burned out, but I think it might be my last HM of the year - I’d meant to run 12.5 miles today but it was really hard getting out the door until I decided to cut back to 10. The thought of not running more than 90 minutes at a time for a while feels pretty good right now. We’ll see how long that lasts.
*If anyone spots any deals on winter tights (or wool panties!), give me a holler - I need to keep the spending tight until the house closes but this is getting ridiculous.
OCTOBER MILES:
10/1 Mo - rest
10/2 Tu - 1:11:20 - 6.54 meandering and cold
10/3 We - 0:20:06 - 1.94 zippy after lifting
10/4 Th - 0:45:37 - 4.33 medium effort
10/5 Fr - rest
10/6 Sa - Twin Cities Marathon Weekend 10K - Chip time: 1:05:14
10/7 Su - “rest” volunteering at TCM gear check
10/8 Mo - rest
10/9 Tu - 1:09:53 - 6.54 improving my cold weather game
10/10 We - 0:40:00 - 3.60 numbers approximate (workout accidentally turned off)
10/11 Th - rest
10/12 Fr - 0:56:36 - 5.20 medium effort sort of painful
10/13 Sa - rest
10/14 Su - 1:56:06 - 10.04 miles for Dennis
October Total: 44.53/85 miles
Races!
July 4: Red, White and Boom! 5K Chip time: 0:32:20
August 25: Glo Run Night Race 5K Chip time: 0:30:40
September 8: Helen Gold 10K DNS - trip postponed
September 9: City of Lakes Half Marathon Net time: 2:28:25
October 6: Twin Cities Marathon Weekend 10K Chip time: 1:05:14
October 21: Mankato Half Marathon
November 24: Mustache Run 10K
December 8: Reindeer Run 10K or 15K (leaning 15K)
January 5: Polar Dash 10K
January 26: Securian/Winter Carnival 10K9 -
@MegaMooseEsq Costco in Canada sells fleece-lined Mondetta tights. I've found them pretty good down to about -8 to -10C (colder than that and I need another layer).4
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October Goal: 100 miles
10/1: planned rest day
10/2: 4.5 miles
10/3: 9 miles
10/4: 5.5 miles
10/5: 7 miles
10/6: cross train ditched for rest
10/7: 3 miles
10/8: planned rest
10/9: rest until cleared by NP
10/10: 10 miles
10/11: 7 miles
10/12: 5 miles
10/13: 4.5 miles
10/14: impromptu rest
Total: 55.5 miles
UPCOMING RACES
November - 5 mile Bare Bones Turkey Trot (22nd)
December -
COMPLETED RACES
January - Frosty 5k
February - Run for the Chocolate 5k
March - Penguin in the Park 5k
April - Lake Sara Dam 5k
May - Run Through the Jungle 5k
June - French Fried 5k
July - Firecracker 5k
August - Happy Birthday to Me virtual 10k
September 7th - 5k Glow Run
October - Illinois Homecoming 5k2 -
Sorry, guys, didn't run for dennis. Car accident took precedence. I'm fine, car not great.16
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Glad your ok. Life happens there will be plenty of days to run2
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10/1 - rest day, short walk + PT exercises
10/2 - 4.22 km run/walk intervals
10/3 to 10/6 - rest
10/7 - 5.72 km
10/8 to 10/13 - more rest
10/14 - 3.37 km run/walk intervals
13.31/?? km
I got really sore after my race last week but I finally ran today. I've just been wimpy.
Real rehab starts this week as I'm supposed to start scheduled runs again. Physiotherapist says half my previous running volume, and 4 days a week. No speed work
I think I can manage that.
2018 Races: (italics means not registered yet, only pondering)
1/1/18 Resolution Run 5K ~38:00 (no official times)
3/4/18 MEC Road Race #1 10K 1:30:57
3/17/28 St Patrick's Day race 10K 1:24:53
4/7/18 Jasper Half Marathon 3:05:55
4/22/18 MEC Trail Race #1 5Kish 1:00:00? (Or 48:45...)
5/20/18 MEC Trail Race #2 10Kish 1:56:15
6/24/18 MEC Trail Race #3 10Kish 2:03:15
7/1/18 Canada Day 15K 2:03:04
7/28/18 Idaho Peak 10K Trail Race 1:30:16
8/18/18 Edmonton Marathon (Half Marathon) 3:12:something
8/25/18 MEC Trail Race #4 4Kish 39:49
10/7/18 MEC Trail Race #5 5Kish 1:02:11
12/1/18 Santa Shuffle
2019:
1/1/19 Resolution Run
5/5/19 BMO Vancouver Marathon (Half)
8/17/19 Edmonton Marathon6 -
Will try to type with tears in my eyes.
You are all such lovely, inspiring, and courageous people.
This is a beautiful, beautiful thing.12 -
PastorVincent wrote: »This is the most awesome coffee mug I have ever beheld! It was given to me by my awesome baby sister on the day I performed her wedding! Consider the bar raised for all future wedding gifts.
(click through and see both sides!)
That is an awesome mug! Didn't your sister wear purple? What a groovy bride!1 -
Did 3 'runs' today.
1st was around midnight on treadmill 5.26 miles.
2nd was outside and cut shorter than planned because temps dropped 30 degrees overnight and I wasn't ready for that. 3.83 miles
3rd was more walking than running on treadmill while watching TWD. 3.40 miles.
I did not meet my goal for the week.8 -
QM race report?
Weather was perfect at the start, clear mid-low 50's (50F=10C) very light breeze.
Miles 1-2 were fine. Did not feel strong, tried so hard to rein it in but i was surrounded by strong runners, not the walkers that stage incorrectly. So i hung in there, tried to find the pace screen on my watch, that was still set up for interval training... Gave up, just tried to go by breathing.
Mile 3-4 it became clear that i would not run this without pain. Mile 4 walked a bit and had a full strength Gatorade (great race venue, but i did expect 1/2 water).
Mile 5. Plauged with left ITB pain and right hip pain, i tried to talk myself up. But every step hurt more than the last. 5.80 walked some more.
Made it to 6 miles and struggled overcoming the bodily resistance. Last bit it became evident, I really do need that next appointment with the doc. I kept catching myself holding my breath, somehow hoping it'd help with the pain. It did not.
Made it across the finish line. Awesome medal, btw I'll have to add a pic to Strava, i was so pained rum dum that i had no joy in completing this race. Then guilt for not being able to hold the memory of @KeepRunningFatboy . Eating danishes also did not help trick the brain from processing the crybaby knee/itb.
As of now, I'm crossing all my races off. Well, Hawaii is still on. I can do 2 mile relays. And im cutting my runs back to 2-3 miles.
Waited on Eric to finish the half. Froze. Stiffened up. Shuffled half way back to the hotel before Eric caught up to me and offered to get the car so i didn't have to walk another block. I'm in sad sad shape. Hot shower and bath, hot coffee i felt better. Right hip is cranky. Left itb is horrid. I'll fetch the ice pack soon.
As you may have noticed on Strava, i placed 2nd AG. Eric 1st AG. I just have no happy in it since it seems I'm done racing/runnin for a while.... again.. or again and again... Or is it again, again and again... (Yes overly dramatic poor me).
Tldr eh, go on to the next post.
@Elise4270 Eternal kudos for all your work organising Run For Dennis.
Bravo on a fantastic run!!!
You did your 2nd best 10 km AND 5 km efforts, according to Strava!
Yes, that's going to hurt!
I'm optimistic your body can recover from that, since it has just proven it's strong.9 -
How are we going?
I finished the Melbourne Marathon! That was brutal!! So warm!!My throat started constricting at 25 km and I had to walk a lot after that, and it became just a matter of trying to finish and staying out of Accident & Emergency.
The first half went great, and I stuck to my conservative pace, not getting carried away. Quick loo stop at 20 km. But it was getting warm. People’s were saying there was lots of pollen. I don't get asthma but I've had types of exercise asthma (it’s a thing, I’ve read about it) now twice. If I walked/ran, I was OK, but my throat was constricted when I talked, and for a while when talking after I finished. It was hard to breathe through my mouth when running after a while.
It got to about 24 degrees Celsius by the time I was done. I’ve only run in 10 degrees or less for the last 7 months. Out of 7,000 starters, 6,300 finished. I was in the back of the pack, and was interested to see all ages and sizes around me. I've never had to walk in a race, so this was humbling. Marathon number 3 if you count my 50 km. Proud to have finished at all.
Well done! Exercise induced asthma is absolutely a thing. I think half the world's athletes have it. I get it. Wasn't really able to run more than a km before my chest got tight and I would be wheezing. Fortunately my running buddy is a GP and she recognised it. A couple of puffs of salbutamol before going for a run, and I'm sweet, and the difference is amazing. I went from walk/run 5k for weeks to running 5k complete within a week of having an inhaler. Definitely worth asking your Dr about it.
@Avidkeo Thanks so much for writing that for me! You're so nice. Yes, my chest was tight, and I see today my heartrate was 195 at that point when it first hit me. Good to know it can be managed. I was worrying about running again soon.
I've got an appointment tomorrow.5 -
How are we going?
I finished the Melbourne Marathon! That was brutal!! So warm!!My throat started constricting at 25 km and I had to walk a lot after that, and it became just a matter of trying to finish and staying out of Accident & Emergency.
The first half went great, and I stuck to my conservative pace, not getting carried away. Quick loo stop at 20 km. But it was getting warm. People’s were saying there was lots of pollen. I don't get asthma but I've had types of exercise asthma (it’s a thing, I’ve read about it) now twice. If I walked/ran, I was OK, but my throat was constricted when I talked, and for a while when talking after I finished. It was hard to breathe through my mouth when running after a while.
It got to about 24 degrees Celsius by the time I was done. I’ve only run in 10 degrees or less for the last 7 months. Out of 7,000 starters, 6,300 finished. I was in the back of the pack, and was interested to see all ages and sizes around me. I've never had to walk in a race, so this was humbling. Marathon number 3 if you count my 50 km. Proud to have finished at all.
Well done! Exercise induced asthma is absolutely a thing. I think half the world's athletes have it. I get it. Wasn't really able to run more than a km before my chest got tight and I would be wheezing. Fortunately my running buddy is a GP and she recognised it. A couple of puffs of salbutamol before going for a run, and I'm sweet, and the difference is amazing. I went from walk/run 5k for weeks to running 5k complete within a week of having an inhaler. Definitely worth asking your Dr about it.
@Avidkeo Thanks so much for writing that for me! You're so nice. Yes, my chest was tight, and I see today my heartrate was 195 at that point when it first hit me. Good to know it can be managed. I was worrying about running again soon.
I've got an appointment tomorrow.
Of course! That's why we are all here. Often it helps knowing it's not all in your head. Good luck at your appt and I hope they recognise it. At the very least ask for a salbutamol inhaler and see if that improves things. It has very few risks (actually none that I'm aware of but all medications come with risks lol). Technically you probably best to have tests such as spirometry, but ask if you can try an inhaler before your next runs to see if it helps. One thing to be aware of, not every one responds to salbutamol. Good luck!1 -
@Elise4270 despite all the pain and suffering, you got an AG placement and your 2nd best 10K, so that is freaking awesome! Take some time to rest and heal. I also want to thank you for all your work organizing the Run For Dennis. That was a great idea, and brought this group even closer together (if that was even possible)
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rheddmobile wrote: »PastorVincent wrote: »This is the most awesome coffee mug I have ever beheld! It was given to me by my awesome baby sister on the day I performed her wedding! Consider the bar raised for all future wedding gifts.
(click through and see both sides!)
That is an awesome mug! Didn't your sister wear purple? What a groovy bride!
Blue actually. The groom wore white.
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