October 2018 Monthly Running Challenge
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I didn't get out last night and then slept in too late to go this morning - so tonight it is.
Physiotherapist has told me we are moving to every other week. Progress! Honestly the only time I've had pain lately is when I remove the K-tape I'm sore along the affected muscle/tendon for a bit. And immediately after running of course.6 -
quick 3.2 before trainer this morning, then total body with the trainer.
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_nikkiwolf_ wrote: »polskagirl01 wrote: »Let's try this on Strava:
Miles for Dennis
https://strava.com/athletes/milesfor_dennis If the link doesn't work, just search for him. "Miles for" is the first name, "Dennis" is the last name
Once you're connected as followers, tag him on the run you dedicated to him (under "edit activity". That's the "add a friend who didn't log" option.) Once we get the notification, one of the administrators can save it as a Dennis run. When we have everyone's runs logged, someone who is good at the fun mapping tools can come up with some visualizations for us
This will work for the marathons people are doing in the future as well.
Administrators: How about @Orphia , @Elise4270 , @_nikkiwolf_ , others??? Basically we're accepting friend requests, then when we get notification that someone sent us a run, add it as Dennis' own with the name of the person in the title. I had to save the picture and manually add it to my own run.
@polskagirl01 Sorry I didn't reply right away (spent Fri-Mon at my parents 50th wedding anniversary, didn't get a single chance to check in at MFP). Thank you for creating the account! Letting people tag runs and adding them seems much better than giving everyone the password. If you need one more person to accept requests & add runs, sure, I'll be happy to help
I actually think it may be necessary to download and edit the times on the .gpx files and then put them back up in GMT time. You would think Strava would let you edit the time/date on a run, but it seems not. So if someone has experience with that and wants to try (with help from @Orphia 's list), that would be great. If no one volunteers, there are tutorials online I can use to figure it out. I may not be able to get to it this week, though.0 -
First, thank you for the kind, supportive comments. It's greatly appreciated.
And yes...going in to the doc (or nurse practitioner in this case) was the right thing to do.
The X-ray didn't show anything, now I'm waiting for insurance authorization for an MRI. The nurse consulted with a surgeon and they suspect an "extensor tendon disruption", a tear or detachment in the long tendon on the top of the foot which which pulls the toes up, in this case my second toe. As I recall they said if that was the case they like to get in there within 14 days to reattach it (Spot on, @rheddmobile ). Although, considering where the pain is (what very little pain there is) I think it's more of a muscle tear, though there's not any bruising that I can see. I guess the MRI will tell us.
Other than that I feel great. I woke up with no more quad pain and my other pains greatly diminished. Even my foot feels much, much better and what little swelling there was is way down. If it weren't for the droopy toe, I wouldn't think anything was wrong.
It looks like my 6 hour race next weekend is not going to happen. If I can, I'll go there anyway to volunteer. I'm ore concerned about my pheasant hunting trip the second weekend in November.
If you can stand a foot photo, here's how my toes looked last night. As a bonus, Kody is in the background.
@pastorvincent a defined time race definitely has a different feel to it than a defined distance race. I highly encourage it! I've seen 3, 6, 12, 24 and even 48 hour races out there, and whatever you pick you certainly don't have to be out there the entire time. This race had lawn games outside and board games inside for spectators, relay team members who weren't running, and for solo runners who wanted to take a break. Having a "base camp" definitely lent a festive atmosphere to the race.
@workaholic_nurse definitely let me know if you come up next year! There are 4 big trail races in the area that weekend but I'm fairly certain I'll be doing this one again.
@MobyCarp thanks for including me in "young guys"!
@shanaber my Noxgear "Lighthound" arrived yesterday. Kody's not too crazy about it yet, but once he starts associating it with running, I think he'll get over it. It seems plenty bright. I'll have to go out biking tonight and let him run along beside me.
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October goal: 95 miles
10/2: 5.5 miles
10/3: 5 miles
10/4: 5 miles
10/6: 3.1miles Old Rip 5K - PR and 2nd place AG
10/8: 5.2 miles
10/10: 5 miles
10/11: 5.2 miles
10/14: 9 miles
10/15: 3.5 miles
10/17: 5 miles
10/18: 4.1 miles
10/21: 11 miles
10/23: 4.5 miles
70.8/95 miles completed
I ran 4.5 miles this morning. The weather was perfect at ~55F. I kind of had a hard time getting going this morning though. I don't really know why.
@7lenny7 That was an awesome race report. I'm glad you are getting the toe looked at and hope they get you fixed up quickly.
2018 races:
5/19/18: Run for 57th AHC Half Marathon - 2:43:59.7. - 2nd place AG
10/6/18: Old Rip 5K Run - PR 29:43.5, 2nd place AG
11/10/18: Wags & Whiskers 5K3 -
amymoreorless wrote: »
Sooooo.... two ladies in my running group are thinking about doing the Mittens Challenge in May. https://borgessrun.com/earn-your-mittens
This is a double marathon challenge -- 2 Marathons in 2 Days. They invited me. I am thinking about it. Someone talk me out of it before I break myself and my bank account. LOL
far from talking you out of it ma'am, that looks like sooooo much fun! I am more interested in the half and half option because I think with my current level of fitness I would DNF the second one if I went for the mittens challenge.2 -
@7lenny7 I'm sorry to hear that they think it's your tendon, but that pop followed by an inability to extend did sound familiar - I did my thumb in some years back with similar symptoms. Easy fix but did require surgery. I looked around on the internet to see if anyone else had a droopy toe. It seems to be a rare injury. The only other instance I found was, probably not coincidentally, another ultra guy. He had not gotten it repaired and was just attempting to live with it (and continuing to run on it, gotta love ultramarathoners) but was regretting his decision since it kept curving under his big toe and he had to tape it constantly. So, yeah, probably better to do whatever the MRI indicates. I'll be thinking good thoughts for you.1
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@7lenny7 It was hard to focus on your post because Kody steals the show. So sweet. Glad you're getting your injury looked after. Toes crossed for a speedy recovery.
@ContraryMaryMary lol about Avidkeo. And thanks! Yes, that's what I thought about sunscreen too. I'll stick with that then.
@polskagirl01 Thanks for doing the Strava data for Dennis. I wish Strava would make it simpler to edit like Garmin does; I'm always annoyed by what it transfers over when I use a treadmill because it doesn't let me input the elevation etc.
@Elise4270 Hope you get your hoverboard soon. Sounds terrifying and fun!6 -
Started a free Garmin 10K plan yesterday even though I didn't finish C25K. Since I'm signed up for a half with @sarahthes in May, I figured it was best to just keep moving forward and try to get back on schedule. Garmin gave me a new lactate threshold, but it was the same heart rate just at a slower pace (181 at 14:00/mile). Not confidence boosting, but I have accepted by now that I am not a gifted runner. Looking forward to improving that.
2.56 (10 min w/u, 4 x 5 min r/2min w intervals) followed by upper body strength training. 17.69 / 25 miles6 -
I am going to sign up for my first 5k on thanksgiving with my sister! Well it's not my first 5k, I did the color run several years back with a friend but we walked it. They even have a kids turkey trot that is 200 yards or something so I'm going to see if my son wants to do that. Whoever thought up thanksgiving day races was smart. Gotta offset some of those thanksgiving calories.8
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So here is my race report for the Sinnemahone Ultra 50k that I ran on Saturday. On Saturday morning I got up at 3:00 a.m. to drive to Emporium, PA, which is about two and a half hours away so I could pick up my race packet at 6:30 a.m. for a 7:30 a.m. start. It was about 42F and raining most of the drive and I was stressed and anxious nearly the whole time because several "real life" issues caused me to miss the last six weeks of my training. I tried telling myself that I got a good summer of running in, including 3 or 4 solid long runs, but I had scheduled all my substantial trail runs for those last six weeks and I was concerned that my legs would not be "trail ready".
I got myself there in plenty of time and stayed in my car to keep warm. When I got to the start/finish line I heard people talking about how a number of people had pulled out because of illness and lack of training so when the cannon (yes, a big *kitten* cannon) started the race, there were only 27 of us doing the 50K. I assumed my traditional place at the very back and as we headed through town towards the hills, I was glad I decided not to bail and give this race a shot. About a mile in, I hit the first big hill... about 1,000 feet in elevation in about a half mile. It was a real SOB, and by the time I hit the top, the pack had scattered and disappeared. Over the next several hours, except for two brief encounters, I ran entirely by myself and saw no one but the folks at the aid stations.
Shortly after that hill, I came upon the "pipeline". The picture above is one segment of it. The pipeline is made up of about 10 of those mother-effing hills spread out over a few miles. For perspective, if you you look closely about half way up the hill you can see two tiny specks that are two runners, which is one of the times I actually saw other runners. At the bottom of each hill were lovely, unavoidable sections of marshy, gooey mud and ankle deep puddles of not very warm water. The pipeline was a lonely, grinding stretch that came close to wearing me out.
I then put in a couple of miles along some beautiful vistas, the sun peeked out a bit and I was able able to make up some time and by the time I hit the next aid station, I was on pace to finish in about 8.5 hours... we had 10 hours to finish, so I was feeling pretty happy, especially since speed is NOT my thing. It was then that the wheels started falling off.
I loaded up with more Tailwind (it was working so perfectly for me) and took off for the next aid station which was about 6 miles away. This next section was a stunning single track, running precariously along a steep ravine. The footing was a little tricky, but decently runnable and I was able to keep up an acceptable pace , although because I was totally by myself, I ran a little cautiously because the thought of face-planting to the bottom of that ravine was not appealing as I contemplated how long it might be before anyone could fish me out if I took a wrong step.
About 3 miles into this section, I came upon a section of towering trees so magnificent that I just had to stop to snap a picture. I slipped off my camelbak to get my phone and saw that the pocket was unzipped.... and my phone was gone. I admit that I nearly broke down as I realized that 1) my race was over and 2) my phone was most likely at the bottom of the ravine and gone forever. I numbly turned around a began re-tracing my steps back toward the aid station I had just left, hoping against hope that the phone had only fallen out a short ways back and lying in plain sight for me to find. No such luck. I was in total despair.
After slumping my way back up the trail for a while I saw two runners approaching... the last two on the course. I was so despondent I wasn't sure I could even talk to them, until, as they got closer, one shouted out and asked me if I was looking for my phone! Apparently, I had taken it out at the aid station when I was getting my Tailwind out and had forgotten to put it back. The two guys told me that someone was driving it down to the next aid station. I can't really explain all the emotions running through my head at that moment. I turned around and ran with these guys for about a quarter mile, but one of them seemed to be struggling, so I took off on my own... again.
This was around the 15-16 mile mark and was not really sure how far I had backtracked or how much time I had lost. I did some quick calculations and concluded I was still going to be ok. Note: Do not try to do math when you are cold, tired, sore, emotional and alone on seemingly endless trails.
I rolled into the next aid station, got my phone, refilled my hydration, grabbed a slice of pizza and took off.. only to hear one the volunteers tell me that I was heading into some of the more challenging parts of the trail. I turned around and said "Like what?" "Hill, rocks and water crossings. You are tight on time. You will have to push hard, but be careful!" Great.
He told me not one lie. The elevation picked back up... and down... and up and down... and the trail became very rocky and when the rain started, they got slick. Time started slipping away. I had already done a couple of water crossings earlier (no bridges) and knew the water was pretty cold but not unbearable, and only two or three inches deep and my Merrells were doing a good job of squeezing out the water. Those couple of crossings turned out to be the cupcakes of the bunch. Over the next few miles I think there were about 10 crossings, ranging from ankle deep to knee deep. And very cold. My feet never got a chance to get warm or dry. The rocks were beating the crap out of my feet, the temperature was dropping, the wind and rain were increasing and I had no one to talk me out of sinking into a bad mental place. And then in that delightful setting, I did some correct math and realized I had added 1.75 miles to my run by looking for my phone and had lost about an hour and twenty minutes. That particular epiphany sucked.
I eventually got to the 25 mile aid station (which took me 26.75 mile to get to...lol) at which time they told me that the remaining queen mother hill was lurking in the last six miles, along with several more water crossings, and that I had to do it in an hour and a half. I think physically, I could have forced myself to finish, but it would have taken me about two and half hours at least. Mentally though I was hammered to a pulp... which is an embarrassing thing to admit, but I could not find that extra "something" to go back out there by myself. (The race director told me later that they were not going to let me go on by myself anyway but just wanted to give me the opportunity to reach that conclusion on my own).
So.... yet another disappointing DNF, but I absolutely loved the trail, was very glad I took a whack at it, I had a great experience and I learned more about running ultras. The hard parts for me are accepting my lack of mental toughness (an absolute must for long distance running) and the "what if" game I keep playing about being stupid for not securing my phone.
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@7lenny7 ... Congrats on your race and I loved the report, especially the pictures. So cool to do a timed trail race!0
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@LaDispute57 That sounds like a killer race. Wonderful report. Sorry you didn’t get the result you hoped for and had that drama with your phone. An amazing effort. Congratulations! Will you try it again next year?1
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@RunRachelleRun I will most likely run it again, especially now that I know what to expect. If I had not lost my phone, I think I would have made it, even with the missed training.3
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If it helps I NEVER completed C25K, and I must have started about 5 times. I also started B210k at the beginning of the year, and never completed that either. But I kept running and now 10k is becoming my short run. Anything less just doesn't seem right anymore.RunRachelleRun wrote: »Started a free Garmin 10K plan yesterday even though I didn't finish C25K. Since I'm signed up for a half with @sarahthes in May, I figured it was best to just keep moving forward and try to get back on schedule.
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On Sunday I got to run 13.39 miles in the Mankato Marathon Half Marathon. It was a lovely day and a great race, and I’m really looking forward to dialing back the miles for a bit. I’m also having a real bear of a week and it’s barely past noon on Tuesday, so it’s nice having this accomplishment to hold onto even if everything else feels like it’s spinning out of control.
We got up at 5 and left just after 5:30. I wanted to stop at McDonald’s for a breakfast sandwich, but unfortunately we went to the only non-24 hour one in town. I told Chris not to worry about it and we headed out of town, but got turned around by bad detour signs so were running about 15 minutes behind. No big deal - I’d planned on getting there an hour before start for a reason.
The drive was uneventful other than my realization that I’d had a major brain fart when checking the weather and only looked at the high for the day, not the weather at 8 AM. I’d expected 55 and sunny and got low 30s to 40s instead (my watch logged 29 for the workout but I don’t believe that). Oh yeah, and windy. Luckily, my windbreaker was sitting back at home safe and sound where it wouldn’t get dirty or anything.
We got to Mankato and promptly ran into a roadblock. My husband had already been stressed about running late (even though we still had lots of time) and this stressed him out even more, but we got there with about a half hour to spare. He dropped me off and parked while I picked up my bib, and managed to meet back up just in time to rescue my bag from having to go in bag check. Whew!
Anyhow, it was cold and wet at the start (thank you random stranger for helping me tie my chip to my shoe laces because my fingers were way too cold), and in the absence of my lovely windbreaker I decided to hang onto my insulated jacket even though I hadn’t run it in yet this year and hope for the best. The race offered clothing drops at the first two aid stations, so I figured I’d see how I felt then, but I didn’t love the idea of dropping my most expensive piece of kit, and also the one I wear as street-gear more often than not.
As it turned out, the weather snafu worked out fine. I probably wouldn’t have chickened out of wearing shorts if I’d realized it would be under 40, and so far none of my capris or leggings are nearly as comfortable as the shorts. I got a couple of “way to be a badass” comments, which were fun, but honestly I’ve always had pretty muscular calves that don’t really get cold. As for my butt and thighs, I ended up tying my jacket around my waist and zipping it up so I had a nice makeshift skirt that was less distracting than I feared it would be, and still gave me nice pocket access as I put on and took off my gloves about 30,000 times over the two and a half hours. I think I might have to save up for one of these after all.
@7lenny7: I’m totally with you on arm-sleeves. I wore a pair under a long sleeve shirt and once I took off my jacket I was able to go from double layer, to rolled up shirt-sleeves, to tucked up sleeves, to no sleeves as I and the day warmed up. And all that with only a tiny roll of fabric to shove in my pocket and at $8, one I wouldn’t have blinked at throwing out, either.
I found the 2:30 pacer at the start and stuck to her for all but the last minute or so of the race. There were maybe 4-6 women with her the first half of the race, all around my age, and one guy who never spoke and looked miserable the whole time, but did finish with us, so good on him I suppose. It was a pretty chatty group, which turned out to be a change for most of us and made for a very laid back, fun day. I spent some time talking with one of the younger women until she dropped back “to find a friend” - I’m not sure if that was true or not, but she was breathing way too hard for midway through a half and it felt really strange to be able to tell that.
The route was really beautiful, a mix of rural highways, paved trail, and some neighborhood and city streets toward the end. There were aid stations every two miles like clockwork and organized cheer sections in between almost every aid station, many of them with snacks. I took a jolly rancher at one point but otherwise stuck to water and was fine. A better selection of food at the finish line than I’ve been used to seeing (why is chocolate milk not more common?), really beautiful medals, and great pre-race communication (other than lack of directions to the starting line) made for a really good experience all around.
We didn’t stick around for the after-party because I mainly just wanted a shower and to get off my feet, and I feel pretty self-conscious hanging out with people after running. I changed out of everything but my shorts in the parking garage, and then changed out of those at a McDonald’s bathroom about 20 minutes into the drive home. Heaven is clean, dry underpants!
My official time was a full minute slower than my half six weeks ago. I was a bit disappointed by that but to be honest, I don’t know that I’d have done anything different. I enjoyed running with the pace group, I finished more-or-less painlessly, and I had a good day. My first race I finished, just barely, with a good half hour of mental and physical struggle. This race I finished comfortably and had a nice morning in a beautiful location with friendly people. Maybe next year I try finishing faster. Maybe not.
It feels a little silly to pay money and do all that training not to push my pace, but I still get to say I ran a half marathon, I got the same medal as people who ran 10, 30, or 60 minutes faster, and I don’t know that I’d ever have run through Mankato otherwise. My instinct after the 10K a couple weeks ago was that I would enjoy pushing myself at that distance, with halfs as less frequent “destination” races, and I think that impulse was correct. I’ve already missed out on registration for the 2019 Grandma’s Half, but there are a lot of other races near and not so near we could do as a weekend trip with a little planning. I've already half-promised to run the Sioux Falls half with a friend next year, so that's nine races under consideration for 2019, hah!
Either way, I’m ready to switch my attention to the 10K for a while. I haven’t run for two days and my quads are still a little mad at me, but otherwise I feel good physically. Mentally I’m a bit of a wreck with various life things, but so it goes. I know I need to be moving around more than I am, but I'm letting myself wallow a little and trying at least to make some money.
@7lenny7: Congratulations, that sounds like it went great (other than your foot, which fingers crossed feels better soon). I don’t know that ultras are in my immediate future, but it would be fun to run a pace loop next year, assuming it’s not the day before a half marathon!
@garygse: It hadn’t occurred to me that the watches would work over your outerwear, but that makes sense! I might have to put a separate monitor back on my list sooner rather than later - I liked the look of the forearm models.
SWAG!
OCTOBER MILES:
10/1 Mo - rest
10/2 Tu - 1:11:20 - 6.54 meandering and cold
10/3 We - 0:20:06 - 1.94 zippy after lifting
10/4 Th - 0:45:37 - 4.33 medium effort
10/5 Fr - rest
10/6 Sa - Twin Cities Marathon Weekend 10K - Chip time: 1:05:14
10/7 Su - “rest” volunteering at TCM gear check
10/8 Mo - rest
10/9 Tu - 1:09:53 - 6.54 improving my cold weather game
10/10 We - 0:40:00 - 3.60 numbers approximate (workout accidentally turned off)
10/11 Th - rest
10/12 Fr - 0:56:36 - 5.20 medium effort sort of painful
10/13 Sa - rest
10/14 Su - 1:56:06 - 10.04
10/15 Mo - rest
10/16 Tu - 1:06:06 - 6.32
10/17 We - prehab, finally (if I’m going to neglect lifting I need to not neglect this!)
10/18 Th - 0:52:09 - 4.74
10/19 Fr - rest
10/20 Sa - rest
10/21 Su - Mankato Marathon Weekend Half Marathon - Chip time 2:29:25
10/22 Mo - rest
10/23 Tu - rest
October Total: 68.98/85 miles
Races! (italics under consideration)
July 4: Red, White and Boom! 5K Chip time: 0:32:20
August 25: Glo Run Night Race 5K Chip time: 0:30:40
September 8: Helen Gold 10K DNS - trip postponed
September 9: City of Lakes Half Marathon Net time: 2:28:25
October 6: Twin Cities Marathon Weekend 10K Chip time: 1:05:14
October 21: Mankato Half Marathon Chip time: 2:29:25
November 24: Mustache Run 10K
December 8: Reindeer Run 10K or 15K (leaning 15K)
2019 Races Under Consideration
January 5: Polar Dash 10K
January 26: Securian 10K
May 23 (est): ESTRS Lebanon 10K
June 13 (est): ESTRS French 5K
July 11 (est): ESTRS Lebanon 7MI
July 17: Torchlight 5K
August 1 (est): ESTRS Hyland 4MI
September 9 (est): Sioux Falls Half (and 5K?)
October 6 (est): TCM 10K17 -
@LaDispute57 hugs what a challenge. I would never have made it up one of those pipelines so you have my respect!
I've just come back from my morning rum 11k on the schedule and because I'm out of town, I got to run in a new place! The Auckland domain is a nice little park in the middle of the city that's basically a hill with the museum on the top and various paths winding around and up and down the hill. I had absolutely no idea where I was. Goie. I ended up doing 3 circuits. The first was around the middle of the hill, then up and around the museum - that was about 3k. Then the second was around the very outside of the park, and had a very steep down hill path. As I was going down I was dreading the uphill, but because that was along the road it wasn't quite as steep. Was still about 700m or half a mile of continuous climbing. And to add a bit of length I again decided to circle the museum. That was about 5k. For the last km I just ran the middle circuit again with an extra look around a small lake, and got back to the beginning needing 50m to get my 11k.
I really enjoyed this run. I wasn't thinking about pace or "how long left" or any of that. My biggest worry was the goose I had to pass twice when going around the lake. I had visions of it biting me in my bum. Fortunately it stayed put haha.9 -
@LaDispute57 Rough go brother, I know that I wouldn't have lasted even one of those hills, so good on ya' for making the effort. Next year will go better sir!
@MegaMooseEsq Great Race report and nice bling! So glad you had fun .
@Avidkeo YAY for running in a new place!3 -
@LaDispute57 That pipeline is badass! Kudos to you. And you'll ace it next year.
@MegaMooseEsq Great race, and that's some seriously nice bling!3 -
It's confirmed. The MRI shows I have a tear of my 2nd extensor digitorum brevis, one of the tendons on the top of my foot which extends my toe. I have a consultation with the surgeon tomorrow.
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