What Was Your Work Out Today?

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  • tetonrivertim947
    tetonrivertim947 Posts: 41 Member
    Anybody notice you can’t track hip thrust as a weightlifting strength training whatever exercise on this app??

    Or am I missing something?

    🤔
  • mtaratoot
    mtaratoot Posts: 14,544 Member
    I run my Garmin wrist device when I do a strength workout. It's pretty good at identifying many of the movements. Quite amazing actually.

    When I get home, I go on the computer and fix the few that are wrong or unidentified. Hip thrust is an option in Garmin. Then I just let Garmin tell MFP what I did and how many calories I burned.

    I don't think that MFP is the best option for logging actual strength exercises. Before I realized how easy it was to use my Garmin device, I just entered "strength training" as a cardio exercise and told it how long I was at it. Garmin kind of does that, and as a bonus it tells me how long I'm resting between sets and how long I'm actually moving things. It's neat that the calorie numbers work out pretty similarly; MFP must assume that you're resting during a strength workout.

    Not that strength training is a good calorie burner, but it's a good thing to do!
  • DiscusTank5
    DiscusTank5 Posts: 540 Member
    nossmf wrote: »
    Someone promise me I won't get bulky from doing this!
    • The guy is working out with somebody else who needs the smaller DBs and offered to grab them
    • The guy is performing lateral raises, an exercise which even big, strong lifters often find challenging and thus use small(er) weights
    • The guy is warming up using light weights to get the blood flowing before moving on to heavier weights
    • Lifters often cycle periods of heavy weights with a week of light weights, allowing the muscles to go through the motions while recovering and healing
    • The guy is recovering from an injury and needs the "light" weight for rehab exercises
    • The guy is performing an exercise technique called a "drop set" where he performs an exercise with one weight, then picks up a smaller weight to immediately do the same exercise with fatigued muscles and keep pushing them to even further exhaustion

    ...and many more. I know you did not mean to come across as judgmental of big, strong lifters, so I will not take offense. (I don't consider myself a "big, strong" lifter compared to some, but do acknowledge I may appear so to others.) But the truth is we never know a lifter's intentions just by looking at them, they may have a perfectly valid reason to select the weights they are using. Hopefully that reason is not "let me risk injury in order to impress the pretty lady" but that's a different discussion.

    @mtaratoot , @AnnPT77 : I'm clearly missing out by not having a sauna in my gym! Ann, your friend in her 70s who lifts and looks / acts like she's in her 50s is who I aspire to be. Or you know, you and your rowing club.

    @nossmf -- NO! Please don't feel judged. I'm always glad to see the heavy lifters in the gym and am consistently impressed by the work they put in to look the way they do (and it's a *good* look).

    The guy I'm talking about had been working out for awhile and looked like he could do bicep curls with #50 or more. It was just funny to me that he'd go for a lower range free weight, but CLEARLY I have loads (pun!) to learn about lifting since, until you mentioned it on the list above, I'd never heard of a "drop set" before. And that makes lots of sense about lateral raises: I find them challenging only performing 2 sets of #10.

    Here's where I do get just a tad judgy: my gym has signs about not dropping the weights, but guys still do it. Often. Sometimes it makes me jump. I've wondered if they really are that exhausted or if it's showing off. Or maybe both, but hey--that's okay. This is a college gym after all. Some level of showing off is expected.

    Anyway, I'm more serious about weights than I've ever been before because I'm now at the age where I will start losing muscle mass if I'm not working to keep it. And I've been losing weight steadily these last few weeks and want it to be fat loss, not muscle.

  • DiscusTank5
    DiscusTank5 Posts: 540 Member
    Today's workout:
    First, an early 10 min walk with the dog;
    Later at the gym: 21 min treadmill (7 min running, mostly at a 5 mph pace, then a min at 6.5 mph). The rest of the time was 3.0 mph at 5-6% incline. Sit-ups, machines for inner / outer thigh muscles, lunges, and stretches followed.

    I can't really do longer workouts right now because I'm consuming lower calories (@ 1400 today). My TDEE is much higher, so this isn't sustainable long-term, but boy am I glad to see the pounds I put on during chemo coming off.
  • AnnPT77
    AnnPT77 Posts: 35,179 Member
    @tetonrivertim947, I'm with MTaratoot that MFP is not a very functional app for recording strength training exercises. There are apps specifically designed for that, including some free ones, that offer more functions. I remember that there have been some threads here where people shared their favorites, probably in this Fitness and Exercise topic area, or in Goal: Gaining Weight and Body Building. With apologies, I'm not able to link you to a specific one of those threads, because I wasn't paying close enough attention. I lift only for occasional time periods, have experimented with a couple of apps, but never found anything I preferred to my old-school tiny notebook/pen.

    If you want to keep using MFP to log reps/sets in order to keep everything all in one place, that's a reasonable decision, too, of course. I know you can add custom personal exercises in the cardiovascular part of the MFP database; I'm pretty sure you can do that on the strength side of the database, too. There's a "My Exercise" tab in the strength section of the Android app, and mine has something in it, presumably from long ago. You could handle your hip thrust by adding a custom exercise, if you want to stay with MFP for strength workout recording.

    Unlike MTaratoot, I don't find Garmin helpful at all for identifying the lifts that I do. For whatever reason, it thinks a lot of things are bench press that aren't remotely similar to bench press, misidentifies others, and can't figure out some of them at all. Even the counts are way off for me. I tried using it, but correcting its misperceptions was way more work in my case than recording from scratch in some other way. I had to keep track some other way during the workout, in order to be able to correct it later. Not helpful! I do start a strength workout on Garmin when I do one, because it does give a reasonable calorie estimate, IMO. Maybe it would work for you as well as it does for MTaratoot, no way to know.

    @mtaratoot, I read someplace that since HR is so misleading for the purpose, some of the good fitness trackers now estimate strength training using METS. I'm not sure which ones . . . but if Garmin is one that would explain why its estimate is close to MFPs, an observation I've found to be true in my case, too.

    I also read somewhere here on MFP, from one of the very knowledgeable long-timers who's sadly no longer around, that the MFP strength training METS estimate does assume normal short between-set rests. Probably someone who was inclined could verify that by checking METS values in the Compendium of Physical Activities, seeing if those are close to the MFP METS, and checking the underlying research (which is usually linked in the Compendium, IIRC). I'm undermotivated, personally. :D Meh, seems close enough. ;)
  • AnnPT77
    AnnPT77 Posts: 35,179 Member
    Breast cancer survivors rowing team practice again. Brief warm-up, some pre-workout stretches, a few glute activation floor exercises, about 15 minutes of stroke progression and pause drills on the rowing machine with technical corrections (and university rowing team members on machines amongst us to mimic, too), then 5 x (5' on, 2' off) with some row in/out during the "off" and individual technical coaching/corrections throughout, ending with another few minutes of post-workout stretching.

    This is good stuff from a technical standpoint, plus I can't overstate how enjoyable it is to have members of the university team giving us coaching and rowing in with us: These are delightful young women in a social sense, and knowledgeable/skilled rowers. I'm enjoying it So Much.

    I got in 7926m, mostly around 20spm when we were rowing continuously (vs. pausing), the biggest chunk Z3 (22:23), but 9:09 in Z4.

    @DiscusTank5, I can't recall how old you are now, but my impression is that you're young enough (compared to me ;) ) to have tremendous upside potential if you keep being consistently active, strength and cardio. I'll never be my friend J. - so smart to start younger, and so disciplined. I didn't start being routinely active until about my late 40s, after cancer treatment. That didn't lead to world-beater results, but I surprised myself (and some old friends) by how much progress a former "chosen last in gym class" kid could make at that late stage. You're doing the right things. Keep doing them!
  • nossmf
    nossmf Posts: 12,820 Member
    @DiscusTank5 it boggles my mind how you GAINED weight during chemo. A buddy at work had to deal with chemo, beat the cancer, but along the way lost a lot of weight due to simply being unable to keep down any food from the nausea.
  • nossmf
    nossmf Posts: 12,820 Member
    @tetonrivertim947 I have been lifting for 15+ years, and the entire time my lifting logs have been kept in a paper journal which is there with me during the workout. It's falling apart now due to age and use, but I can flip back in time to see what my workouts were like five years ago, a decade ago, 15 years ago. I have from time to time recorded things online or in an excel spreadsheet as well, but those apps have come and gone in terms of keeping my interest, yet the paper log remains.
  • nossmf
    nossmf Posts: 12,820 Member
    Treadmill - 1 hr, 3.1 mph, 12% incline
  • AnnPT77
    AnnPT77 Posts: 35,179 Member
    edited February 5
    nossmf wrote: »
    @DiscusTank5 it boggles my mind how you GAINED weight during chemo. A buddy at work had to deal with chemo, beat the cancer, but along the way lost a lot of weight due to simply being unable to keep down any food from the nausea.

    The popular press coverage of chemotherapy isn't very nuanced, and the popular understanding of it tends to follow.

    Some chemotherapy types are associated with weight gain. Chemo isn't all one thing, with one common set of side effects. Even one cancer type like mine - breast cancer - can involve different chemotherapy drugs for different cases, or stages with different drugs for one person. The differences between drugs for different cancer types can be vast. Side effects differ from one person to the next, even with the same drugs, besides.

    Not all regimens cause nausea, vomiting, or malabsorption. Some drugs during the regimen can increase appetite. Some drugs depress metabolic rate. Most forms of chemo cause fatigue, sometimes extreme fatigue, so trigger inactivity. On top of that, depression is often associated with cancer or its treatment, and we know how that can contribute to weight gain.

    My medical team told me to avoid losing weight during chemo to the extent possible. (I assume that's common.) It's been long ago so hard to remember, but I think I did lose a very few pounds, a couple of which were surgical. Unfortunately, I was more reactive to one of the drugs than most who take it, with one side effect being an inability to keep down not just food, but even water and anti-nausea pills, for some days during each 3-week cycle, with nausea persisting longer. If not for that, I probably would've been closer to weight stable, maybe even gaining.

    This is a digression: I think the popular coverage pressures people toward rejecting chemotherapy. It's painted as the worst thing that will ever happen, multidimensionally, because drama makes for good clickbait stories. IME, it isn't fun, and it's a slog. But in my case - which isn't universal of course - it wasn't the worst I'd ever felt. It was more like having a really bad stomach flu on predictable 3-week repeats for 3 months, then another set of unpleasant but less dramatic symptoms with other drugs for another 3 months. I wouldn't do it for the amusement value, but I'd do it again in similar circumstances. Mostly, it just lasted a long time, got depressing and exhausting. I suspect some people with chronic health conditions have it worse, permanently.

    I'd encourage people not to reject the idea out of hand, when it's appropriate treatment.
  • nossmf
    nossmf Posts: 12,820 Member
    Thank you for taking the time to educate me.
  • tetonrivertim947
    tetonrivertim947 Posts: 41 Member
    nossmf wrote: »
    @tetonrivertim947 I have been lifting for 15+ years, and the entire time my lifting logs have been kept in a paper journal which is there with me during the workout. It's falling apart now due to age and use, but I can flip back in time to see what my workouts were like five years ago, a decade ago, 15 years ago. I have from time to time recorded things online or in an excel spreadsheet as well, but those apps have come and gone in terms of keeping my interest, yet the paper log remains.

    That’s really cool actually. Maybe it’s a good time to start. 📝🗒️📓😊💪🙂
  • DiscusTank5
    DiscusTank5 Posts: 540 Member
    edited February 5
    nossmf wrote: »
    @DiscusTank5 it boggles my mind how you GAINED weight during chemo. A buddy at work had to deal with chemo, beat the cancer, but along the way lost a lot of weight due to simply being unable to keep down any food from the nausea.

    Ah, but that's chemo infusions, usually.

    With the milder pills, it is actually more common to gain than lose. I had almost no nausea but painful neuropathy in my feet, making exercising close to impossible during the last 3 cycles. Also high levels of fatigue.

    And @AnnPT77 answers in far more detail. My experience with chemo wasn't so bad, (though I hated it at the time), esp. compared to what people in my colon cancer support group have gone through. I hope never to repeat the experience!
  • love2lift_85
    love2lift_85 Posts: 381 Member
    Today was full body strength. I forget how many exercises I did haha oh well. I hit all the muscle groups 💪
    Gym was busy at 5a... surprising, a little, for a Wednesday with snowy streets 🤷‍♀️
  • DiscusTank5
    DiscusTank5 Posts: 540 Member
    Three 10 min walks outdoors in light drizzle--not super enjoyable but at least it wasn't actually raining.

    Two gym sessions: 20 min rowing and 24 minutes stationary bike. Later 21 minutes walking on the treadmill 3.0 mph @ 5% first half /no incline second half. A family member wanted to work out, which is why I went a second time. Busy day at work and now I'm crashing. Ugh. Need to get the foam roller out and *enjoy* that for awhile.
  • AnnPT77
    AnnPT77 Posts: 35,179 Member
    Back to stationary bike, the 60'+3' CD. Annoyingly, the Ergdata app on my phone froze up at about 14' left, so I lost some data. Garmin still captured some from the bike, and there's some in the bike memory. This was a tiny big slower than Monday, 91W average, 24193m total including CD, mostly Z3.

    Thinking my general plan right now is to shoot for 6 days, mostly work on base, stick with whatever pace feels ever so slightly challenging but short of fatiguing on any given day . . . except for rowing team practices, where I'll do whatever coach says. ;)

    When I manage not to sleep too late, I've been starting the day with a few minutes of lower-body stretching/mobility exercises, and continuing my long term habit of some tiny bits of exercise-y movement at spare moments during the day . . . lately wall sits while flossing my teeth, side leg raises and donkey kicks while grinding my morning coffee beans, and that sort of thing. :D

    I need to work up to doing more, but it's going to be gradual.
  • chaney3000
    chaney3000 Posts: 277 Member
    Today is 20 mins on the elliptical and 20 mins on the stationary bike. Followed up with 15 mins stretching and foam rolling.
  • nossmf
    nossmf Posts: 12,820 Member
    Treadmill - 1 hr, 3.0 mph, 12% incline
  • DiscusTank5
    DiscusTank5 Posts: 540 Member
    24min elliptical at level 7 for most of it. BPM avg about 133. Then 15 plus min of free weights, squats, sit-ups, lunges. My Coros watch keeps telling me I need to up the intensity and frequency of my workouts.
    How? Like 2 sessions a day with a 10 lb weight loss in the last month just isn't enough??
  • nossmf
    nossmf Posts: 12,820 Member
    Upper Body, DB Day

    DB Bench Press <<superset>> 1A DB Row 5x8
    Incline Cable Fly 3x10
    1A Pulldown 3x10
    DB Shrugs 3x10
    DB Arnold Press 3x10
    DB Hammer Curl <<superset>> Lying DB Extend 3x10
    Cable Woodchoppers 2x10 <<alternate>> Palloff Press 2x10 sec

    Had to reduce the weight used on the DB Bench Press twice today because I simply could not get the weights into initial position. Once I dropped low enough I no longer felt challenged by sets of five, so increased to sets of eight. This is the second time in three weeks I've had to do this, which has me wondering if I should stop going for heavy DB presses and stick to moderate weights instead.
  • love2lift_85
    love2lift_85 Posts: 381 Member
    Upper body day

    A nice man helped me unload the barbell - that someone had left loaded up - at the beginning of my bench sets :) not necessary but hey I appreciate the chivalry :)

    BB bench press
    Lat pull down
    Lateral delt raise
    DB bicep curl
    DB chest press (lighter weights than w/the bar, deeper range of motion)
    Rear delt machine
    Seated row machine
    ...not sure if that's entirely the order I did them in, haha.
  • chaney3000
    chaney3000 Posts: 277 Member
    Today is going to be a shoulder day.

    Rear delts 3 sets 10 reps
    Lateral shoulder raises 5 sets 10 reps
    Shoulder press 5 sets 10 reps
    Front raises 3 sets 10 reps
    Shoulder shrugs 2 sets 20 reps
  • nossmf
    nossmf Posts: 12,820 Member
    Leg Day

    Squats 4x10
    BB Step Ups 3x10
    BB Hip Thrust 4x10
    Seated Leg Curl 4x10
    Seated Calf Extend 4x10
    Cable Crunch 4x10, 15, 20, 25

    The other day when I was having trouble with the DB Bench Press, I inadvertently dropped one of the DBs on my left quad. No visible bruising, leg still held me upright, I pushed through it. Bit of stiffness throughout the day was all I had to deal with, but I knew today was leg day and was worried it wouldn't hold up under stress. But I took extra time to warm up gradually, and my leg was able to power through my entire workout, even increase the weight used. Right up until the final exercise of the day, the seated leg curl (moved to the end due to waiting for others to free up the station). My hamstring muscle was willing, but when I braced the pad against my quad and started to push against it, HELLO, my quad finally started to complain. I decided to just call it a day and give my leg a week to recover before trying again next week.
  • DiscusTank5
    DiscusTank5 Posts: 540 Member
    On an overnight retreat through work, so this morning I got in a nice 45 min. hike through the woods with part of it along a lake (the breeze was a bit much for a few minutes, then settled back down). Wish I had remembered to take pictures.
  • Spinster321
    Spinster321 Posts: 32 Member
    Today - Improved Health walking video, 21 minutes; stretching 18 minutes.
  • AnnPT77
    AnnPT77 Posts: 35,179 Member
    Skipped some days, still struggling with energy level to some extent. Back to stationary bike today, mostly because I wanted something easy plus videos for distraction. 60' + 3' CD, 24,191m, 91W average, 76% Z3. At 477 Garmin intensity minutes for the week despite skipped days; tomorrow's a scheduled rest day (and I'll probably take it).
  • chaney3000
    chaney3000 Posts: 277 Member
    Today's workout:

    2 mile run (working my way back from an injury)

    20 mins stationary bike

    Stretching and foam rolling
  • drmwc
    drmwc Posts: 1,066 Member
    edited February 9
    Wednesday
    Climbing. The gym was really crowded, I didn't really get going until it started to thin out about after around 90 minutes. I was good from then onwards.

    Thursday
    Work offered discounted gym membership, so I joined my local David Lloyd. I swam 750 metres. I then couldn't get into the sauna, as apparently my membership level was insufficient. My main reason for joining was the sauna, so, son, I am disappoint.

    Friday
    Climbing. Cracking session, sent hard stuff (by my low standards).

    Saturday
    I was supposed to dive Brighton, but the weather didn't cooperate. So I dived a quarry instead; it was chilly.

    Sunday
    12 mile walk, 500 metres swim, then I broke into the sauna.
  • love2lift_85
    love2lift_85 Posts: 381 Member
    Full body day today

    BB bench press
    Glute-focused back ext/DB
    Cable lat pull down
    DB lateral raises
    DB bicep curl
    Leg extensions
    Leg curl
    Hip adduction
    Rear delt fly

    Wanted to throw in some treadmill time but I ran out of time :)

    Happy Sunday everyone