You guys really like to over complicate things.

Warchortle

Mr_Bad_Example

Who are the "you guys" and where are all the threads "complicating things"?

Just close your eyes, click on a random thread, and you will find them.

jdm_taco

Whoha- you agreeing or disagreeing with OP? one minute you want to buy him a plane ticket and say this to your face, now it seems like you agree.


Buy me a plane ticket and I'll come up and tell you if OP does not

Say that to my face and not online bro

buy me a ticket, lil fella

not sure why you are even mad. lol!!!

OP is speaking the truth for vast majority of people.

letmebangbro

Wisi,
Can you recommend be a specific guide or you plan when you decide to "cut" or "bulk".
How does one eat less or eat more?
Pls repsond.

novalh42

I think the op's post is true for some people but not everyone. It is not that simple for everyone. I have diabetes. Some of the meds I an on make it harder for me to lose weight. I was told that by my DOCTOR. Sometimes it is not as easy as pushing away from the table.

crisb2

I believe MANY of us on here have weight issues and are confused about how to lose it in a healthy way. So being such a crabapple about it doesn't help anyone. If you are such a pro and the rest of are losers, find a different site to share your heavenly wisdom with.

^^^ +1

WisiPls

You still haven't discussed those with chronic illnesses that either the illness itself makes it difficult or the medications taken for it do. Just Google to see full lists of illnesses and medications that affect weight and weight loss. What you are saying in it's simplest form is true but nothing is always that simple for everyone. Your attitude is dismissing to all of the people that do have the stack dealt against them. It is not always a matter of lack of drive, will power, or common sense.

This thread is for the majority of people who are over weight and or trying to gain weight, not people with medical conditions lol.

mistertug

arguing on the internet smh

pcastagner

While the OP is technically right, some of the criticism is valid as well.

I think the psychology of this is the real challenge.

OMGeeeHorses

Boom Goes The Dynamite

KisaraKaiba

I think the psychology of this is the real challenge.

This is a valid point that should be considered...

jennifer_417

I thought there would be cats.....

OMGeeeHorses

I thought there would be cats.....

So Did I.....so disappointed xD.. To those who are complaining to the person who posted this or the others that don't agree, walk away. Its like they say "you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink."

ThickMcRunFast

I thought there would be cats.....

they are waiting for it to get a little more awesomely butthurt in here

jwdieter

Its like they say "you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink."

My horse drinks whenever I lead it to water. Why are you trying to overcomplicate things?

IpuffyheartHeelsinthegym

I thought there would be cats.....

OMGeeeHorses

Its like they say "you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink."

My horse drinks whenever I lead it to water. Why are you trying to overcomplicate things?

hmm...do you not give it enough water in the day then?! O_O THAT'S ANIMAL ABUSE!!, lol

IronMan_DuhamNC

Here Here my friend. It's a crazy world around here

Lleldiranne

Ah, the arrogance of youth having all the answers. Like we haven't seen this many times before. Like we weren't in your shoes many years ago when we were the ones with all the answers. And in 30-40 years when you in our shoes and you know you won't have all the answers.

Time is the great equalizer. We've seen this play before.

Don't be hatin, OP is speaking the truth.

While everything is technically correct, there are a lot of nuances missing.

"Just eat under maintenance" would be a whole lot easier if we had a little plug we could attach to the nearest analysis machine and get the correct maintenance calories. A lot of thing affect the human metabolism. Quitting smoking could cause one's metabolism to slow down, as could hormonal imbalances, age, nutrition (or lack) or a myriad of other factors.

And, in reality, if all it took was a bit of education to lose weight, we wouldn't be in such a pickle as a nation. The diet industry wouldn't be a million dollar market. Dr. Oz would still be performing heart surgery. :laugh: There's so much emotion and motivation tied up into what we eat and how much we exercise that it's easy to plug a quick fix and have tons of followers flock to you…

And then to get shamed when you ask a "simple" or even "stupid" question … well, no wonder some people quit before they've begun.

pcastagner

Whoha- you agreeing or disagreeing with OP? one minute you want to buy him a plane ticket and say this to your face, now it seems like you agree.


Buy me a plane ticket and I'll come up and tell you if OP does not

Say that to my face and not online bro

buy me a ticket, lil fella

not sure why you are even mad. lol!!!

OP is speaking the truth for vast majority of people.

Hmmm... Do you think it's possible he is joking?

WisiPls

I didn't make this thread to be a ****. I made this thread so that it could help people understand that for the majority of us, losing weight(or gaining) isn't that complicated. It was more to motivate than put you down, but if you have a medical condition or are taking meds, then you really don't apply to this thread and you know that.

letmebangbro

Wisi, I am a Harvard Graduate in Broscience.
Would you like to discuss sometime about your fitness goals?

DragonSquatter

JK Good thread.

pcastagner

I didn't make this thread to be a ****. I made this thread so that it could help people understand that for the majority of us, losing weight(or gaining) isn't that complicated. It was more to motivate than put you down, but if you have a medical condition or are taking meds, then you really don't apply to this thread and you know that.

I get you, but weight loss is an emotional **** storm. It's all wrapped up in social anxiety and feelings of low self worth, with a strong slathering of humiliation and a dash of being hangry.

rml_16

Smoking - You will not gain weight if you quit smoking unless you binge eat after quitting, that's all there is to it.

Actually, the metabolism slows down after a person quits smoking.

OMGeeeHorses

How I see it, we all have our own ways to do it and someone may think there's is better. In fact it could be for some, but not for all. I do Paleo and people freak saying what I am doing is retarded, in some cases I can say it is. But it WORKS FOR ME. So in saying that, take whatever from the post works for you and if it doesn't then take it with a grain of salt and be happy you are doing an amazing job and losing weight your way!!

WhoHa42

Ah, the arrogance of youth having all the answers. Like we haven't seen this many times before. Like we weren't in your shoes many years ago when we were the ones with all the answers. And in 30-40 years when you in our shoes and you know you won't have all the answers.

Time is the great equalizer. We've seen this play before.

Don't be hatin, OP is speaking the truth.

While everything is technically correct, there are a lot of nuances missing.

"Just eat under maintenance" would be a whole lot easier if we had a little plug we could attach to the nearest analysis machine and get the correct maintenance calories. A lot of thing affect the human metabolism. Quitting smoking could cause one's metabolism to slow down, as could hormonal imbalances, age, nutrition (or lack) or a myriad of other factors.

And, in reality, if all it took was a bit of education to lose weight, we wouldn't be in such a pickle as a nation. The diet industry wouldn't be a million dollar market. Dr. Oz would still be performing heart surgery. :laugh: There's so much emotion and motivation tied up into what we eat and how much we exercise that it's easy to plug a quick fix and have tons of followers flock to you…

And then to get shamed when you ask a "simple" or even "stupid" question … well, no wonder some people quit before they've begun.

Your metabolism doesn't change all that much unless you go through some crazy eating disorders like anorexia. It's actually quite simple to calculate a range of your maintenance calories and I'd be willing to do it for anyone in this thread. Just PM me. Takes about 5 minutes lol.

And your second paragraph is actually what's wrong with this nation. It really does only take a little bit of education to lose weight unless you have some medical disorders, but we've already established that this thread isn't about them. People want a quick solution so they follow these gurus that spit the stupidest advice at people, and when it doesn't work they give up and say it's impossible for them to lose weight. If people actually learned about nutrition or how the body works these stupid gurus would disappear and people would actually see progress.

navyrigger46

Rock on OP, my chocolate chip pancakes with bacon and vanilla bean ice cream for dinner tonight thank you for you sanity.

Rigger

pcastagner

Smoking - You will not gain weight if you quit smoking unless you binge eat after quitting, that's all there is to it.

Actually, the metabolism slows down after a person quits smoking.

Yeah, true, but not by a lot. Recently we had a post featuring over 20lbs gained over many months, accompanied by refusals to measure food, insistence on "I don't eat that much", and the usual incorrect focus on exercise. These posts can be frustrating because it is so damn obvious the problem is too much food, and some of us recognize the same patterns of denial that got us fat before we dealt with them.

There really are two sides here, and both make valid points.

1)weight loss is actually quite simple
2)despite being simple, weight loss is really freaking hard

rainbowbow

Smoking - You will not gain weight if you quit smoking unless you binge eat after quitting, that's all there is to it.

Actually, the metabolism slows down after a person quits smoking.

Nicotine is a stimulant, bro.