November 2019 Monthly Running Challenge

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  • polskagirl01
    polskagirl01 Posts: 2,024 Member
    Today I did 11.5k at an easy pace, while exploring a new route. It was great!

    Happy Thanksgiving to those who are celebrating!

    November goal 100 miles - DONE!

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    2019k in 2019!

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  • T1DCarnivoreRunner
    T1DCarnivoreRunner Posts: 11,502 Member
    I'm debating whether to run tonight or not. I have not run since Sun. because my Achilles tendonitis seemed to get worse again after the weekend runs. It is a bit sore, but it has been too long to not run already. I am getting fat and losing fitness. :(

    Oh, and I see everyone posting on social media about getting drawn for Berlin. I keep checking, but no message yet. That probably means I did not get drawn and my rejection email will come soon... same thing as every other race lottery ever. Ugh, why am I not surprised?! I know my luck sucks with these things, but maybe someday I can get drawn for something....

    Decided to let the tendon heal more and not run tonight.

    What they told me about mine was if you can do single leg calf raises on a staircase without pain, it’s time to start thinking about running on it. But if there’s any pain at all don’t. Achilles can go from a mild problem to totally ruptured very quickly if you aren’t careful. Rehab exercises help.

    Interesting. I got the opposite advice from my physio when my Achilles were misbehaving. Apparently, tendons like to be worked and will heal faster if you load them (apparently, they simply won’t heal if you leave them). I was given loads of calf raises to do (naturally) and told to keep running - no more than I’d been doing and no uphill, but I was told not to stop. Increasing the load or stopping running has the same risk of rupture.

    The history is there was a surgeon who was having very bad Achilles pain and wanted his colleague to operate but the colleague didn’t want him off work with recovery so refused, saying he’d only operate if the tendon ruptured. The first guy then thought, sod it, I’ll make it rupture, and started to overload his Achilles as much as he could and was surprised and delighted when instead of rupturing it improved and eventually healed.

    Loading the tendon has since then become the standard treatment for Achilles tendinitis, or tendinopathy as it is now called.

    In my experience, it works. I did lots and lots of super slow calf raises before each run to ensure the tendon was warmed up. And more before bed every night. The aim was three times a day - 10 minutes each time. At the beginning I would start a single calf raise until I got to the really sore point then held it there for a few seconds until the pain subsided. As the weeks progressed I increased the number of raises and then moved to weighted calf raises. It was a pain in the neck and took several months but I no longer have any pain at all. I carried on running the whole time and why it was uncomfortable, it was doable.

    I hope this helps. Good luck.

    So my initial treatment was to do those stretches regularly on stairs - I even got a stair stepper for home because there are no stairs here. My understanding was that the fibers on the tendon would heal back in a wad looking like a ball of cooked spaghetti under a microscope. I want those fibers to be straight as they heal, so the stretching is more about helping them stay straight as they heal. Late last week, with just short and easy runs, things felt good. They even felt good during my runs this weekend, it's afterwards (Mon. morning) that it was so much worse suddenly. I think I may try to get out and run today yet.
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  • rheddmobile
    rheddmobile Posts: 6,840 Member
    edited November 2019
    I'm debating whether to run tonight or not. I have not run since Sun. because my Achilles tendonitis seemed to get worse again after the weekend runs. It is a bit sore, but it has been too long to not run already. I am getting fat and losing fitness. :(

    Oh, and I see everyone posting on social media about getting drawn for Berlin. I keep checking, but no message yet. That probably means I did not get drawn and my rejection email will come soon... same thing as every other race lottery ever. Ugh, why am I not surprised?! I know my luck sucks with these things, but maybe someday I can get drawn for something....

    Decided to let the tendon heal more and not run tonight.

    What they told me about mine was if you can do single leg calf raises on a staircase without pain, it’s time to start thinking about running on it. But if there’s any pain at all don’t. Achilles can go from a mild problem to totally ruptured very quickly if you aren’t careful. Rehab exercises help.

    Interesting. I got the opposite advice from my physio when my Achilles were misbehaving. Apparently, tendons like to be worked and will heal faster if you load them (apparently, they simply won’t heal if you leave them). I was given loads of calf raises to do (naturally) and told to keep running - no more than I’d been doing and no uphill, but I was told not to stop. Increasing the load or stopping running has the same risk of rupture.

    The history is there was a surgeon who was having very bad Achilles pain and wanted his colleague to operate but the colleague didn’t want him off work with recovery so refused, saying he’d only operate if the tendon ruptured. The first guy then thought, sod it, I’ll make it rupture, and started to overload his Achilles as much as he could and was surprised and delighted when instead of rupturing it improved and eventually healed.

    Loading the tendon has since then become the standard treatment for Achilles tendinitis, or tendinopathy as it is now called.

    In my experience, it works. I did lots and lots of super slow calf raises before each run to ensure the tendon was warmed up. And more before bed every night. The aim was three times a day - 10 minutes each time. At the beginning I would start a single calf raise until I got to the really sore point then held it there for a few seconds until the pain subsided. As the weeks progressed I increased the number of raises and then moved to weighted calf raises. It was a pain in the neck and took several months but I no longer have any pain at all. I carried on running the whole time and why it was uncomfortable, it was doable.

    I hope this helps. Good luck.

    So my initial treatment was to do those stretches regularly on stairs - I even got a stair stepper for home because there are no stairs here. My understanding was that the fibers on the tendon would heal back in a wad looking like a ball of cooked spaghetti under a microscope. I want those fibers to be straight as they heal, so the stretching is more about helping them stay straight as they heal. Late last week, with just short and easy runs, things felt good. They even felt good during my runs this weekend, it's afterwards (Mon. morning) that it was so much worse suddenly. I think I may try to get out and run today yet.

    That’s pretty normal, mine liked to feel worse after a rest day for months.

    @ContraryMaryMary We don’t disagree, we’re just using different language. By rehab I meant the stair exercises, which are essential to avoid that wad. But I was also told not to run immediately following the initial injury, to give it time for the inflammation to die down first.
  • ContraryMaryMary
    ContraryMaryMary Posts: 1,778 Member
    I'm debating whether to run tonight or not. I have not run since Sun. because my Achilles tendonitis seemed to get worse again after the weekend runs. It is a bit sore, but it has been too long to not run already. I am getting fat and losing fitness. :(

    Oh, and I see everyone posting on social media about getting drawn for Berlin. I keep checking, but no message yet. That probably means I did not get drawn and my rejection email will come soon... same thing as every other race lottery ever. Ugh, why am I not surprised?! I know my luck sucks with these things, but maybe someday I can get drawn for something....

    Decided to let the tendon heal more and not run tonight.

    What they told me about mine was if you can do single leg calf raises on a staircase without pain, it’s time to start thinking about running on it. But if there’s any pain at all don’t. Achilles can go from a mild problem to totally ruptured very quickly if you aren’t careful. Rehab exercises help.

    Interesting. I got the opposite advice from my physio when my Achilles were misbehaving. Apparently, tendons like to be worked and will heal faster if you load them (apparently, they simply won’t heal if you leave them). I was given loads of calf raises to do (naturally) and told to keep running - no more than I’d been doing and no uphill, but I was told not to stop. Increasing the load or stopping running has the same risk of rupture.

    The history is there was a surgeon who was having very bad Achilles pain and wanted his colleague to operate but the colleague didn’t want him off work with recovery so refused, saying he’d only operate if the tendon ruptured. The first guy then thought, sod it, I’ll make it rupture, and started to overload his Achilles as much as he could and was surprised and delighted when instead of rupturing it improved and eventually healed.

    Loading the tendon has since then become the standard treatment for Achilles tendinitis, or tendinopathy as it is now called.

    In my experience, it works. I did lots and lots of super slow calf raises before each run to ensure the tendon was warmed up. And more before bed every night. The aim was three times a day - 10 minutes each time. At the beginning I would start a single calf raise until I got to the really sore point then held it there for a few seconds until the pain subsided. As the weeks progressed I increased the number of raises and then moved to weighted calf raises. It was a pain in the neck and took several months but I no longer have any pain at all. I carried on running the whole time and why it was uncomfortable, it was doable.

    I hope this helps. Good luck.

    So my initial treatment was to do those stretches regularly on stairs - I even got a stair stepper for home because there are no stairs here. My understanding was that the fibers on the tendon would heal back in a wad looking like a ball of cooked spaghetti under a microscope. I want those fibers to be straight as they heal, so the stretching is more about helping them stay straight as they heal. Late last week, with just short and easy runs, things felt good. They even felt good during my runs this weekend, it's afterwards (Mon. morning) that it was so much worse suddenly. I think I may try to get out and run today yet.

    That’s pretty normal, mine liked to feel worse after a rest day for months.

    @ContraryMaryMary We don’t disagree, we’re just using different language. By rehab I meant the stair exercises, which are essential to avoid that wad. But I was also told not to run immediately following the initial injury, to give it time for the inflammation to die down first.

    Gotcha. I always panic when I see someone advised to stop running when it’s not necessary!!
  • dreamer12151
    dreamer12151 Posts: 1,031 Member
    @mbaker566 I feel ya girl! I would be so happy if there were "no kids" races! I'm sorry, but I run in the back of the pack, and on more occasions then not, I've been run into, or had to stop short, or weave on a dime because of kids and/or strollers. it does get frustrating. The idea of "Oh, lets do a 5K as a family!" changes when you are out on the course and the kids are just NOT that into it any more.

  • rheddmobile
    rheddmobile Posts: 6,840 Member
    Photos from our Turkey Trot are up - this is my husband and me at the finish. I think this is the first photo I’ve ever seen of myself running where I wasn’t wearing sunglasses and you can see my eyes. I look so serious! By the way I love my jacket, the vents on the front zip open when you get hot and there are vents over the back, under the arms, and on the forearms.
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    Since @mbaker posted a shot of the donut line at her trot I got curious and looked at the photos to see if there was one of our line. This is about half of the donut line - the time stamp on this photo is 11:15 and the gun time was 9:30! By 11:15 I think my husband and I had gone home already!
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  • noblsheep
    noblsheep Posts: 593 Member
    edited November 2019
    @mbaker566 it's the middle of the night and you've successfully made me want donuts! Congrats on your race and sorry about the little kids. Most races over here have a 16 year old age limit and I'm quite thankful for that :D
  • eleanorhawkins
    eleanorhawkins Posts: 1,659 Member
    @mbaker566 well done for getting out there. I want donuts too now 😂
  • polskagirl01
    polskagirl01 Posts: 2,024 Member
    Photos from our Turkey Trot are up - this is my husband and me at the finish. I think this is the first photo I’ve ever seen of myself running where I wasn’t wearing sunglasses and you can see my eyes. I look so serious! By the way I love my jacket, the vents on the front zip open when you get hot and there are vents over the back, under the arms, and on the forearms.
    y3jgxcfw9bep.jpeg

    Since @mbaker posted a shot of the donut line at her trot I got curious and looked at the photos to see if there was one of our line. This is about half of the donut line - the time stamp on this photo is 11:15 and the gun time was 9:30! By 11:15 I think my husband and I had gone home already!
    7ctj1wh5x2pk.jpeg


    I don't want donuts, but the people in that line look cold!
  • T1DCarnivoreRunner
    T1DCarnivoreRunner Posts: 11,502 Member
    mbaker566 wrote: »
    noblsheep wrote: »
    @mbaker566 it's the middle of the night and you've successfully made me want donuts! Congrats on your race and sorry about the little kids. Most races over here have a 16 year old age limit and I'm quite thankful for that :D

    they are very good donuts too made by a local bakery.

    donuts for everyone!

    You know I don't eat donuts... but back when I did, I would have totally been able to eat most of those!
  • Tramboman
    Tramboman Posts: 2,482 Member
    Photos from our Turkey Trot are up - this is my husband and me at the finish. I think this is the first photo I’ve ever seen of myself running where I wasn’t wearing sunglasses and you can see my eyes. I look so serious! By the way I love my jacket, the vents on the front zip open when you get hot and there are vents over the back, under the arms, and on the forearms.
    y3jgxcfw9bep.jpeg

    Since @mbaker posted a shot of the donut line at her trot I got curious and looked at the photos to see if there was one of our line. This is about half of the donut line - the time stamp on this photo is 11:15 and the gun time was 9:30! By 11:15 I think my husband and I had gone home already!
    7ctj1wh5x2pk.jpeg


    Looks like you and your husband had a good Turkey Trots, too.