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I didn't read bmeadows to be judging the woman who said that.
I have been reaching out to people in my neighborhood/ward to see what help they need, and most of the people I got on the phone (it's a ward initiative, not just mine) said they were pretty fortunate as they still had their jobs and could get what they needed, but it was hard to work from home and care for kids at the same time. I think that's really common. I have a coworker who is divorced and the primary care-giver for her child (maybe the only during this period) and she is having a hard time balancing both.3 -
Showing the huge variety of different projections for peak and beds needed in IL: https://www.chicagotribune.com/coronavirus/ct-cb-coronavirus-when-will-illinois-peak-20200401-3c56ftr64ngqridwnuervngrma-story.html1
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bmeadows380 wrote: »Indiana has just called for all schools to be remote through the end of the school year. The State Board of Education said schools must complete 160 total instructional days or at least 20 more days of remote learning from April 2 until the end of the school year.
WV is supposed to be doing it by packets, but I'm not sure it's going well. Parents are complaining about having to educate their children. Such as this one woman my brother overheard complaining about it, saying "that's what I send them to school for". *sigh* Supposedly, graduation and prom has been postponed to July. Personally, I kind of hope they decide to start the school year early this year, so the kids can catch up - instead of mid August, restart in mid-July or even right after the 4th. I doubt it, though.
I had to run out because of a maintenance light on my truck (which the mechanics were not able figure out, so it was a waste of $100
) and stopped at Walmart because I was running low on bread and cat food. I saw several people, including some cashiers, wearing masks, but social distancing was hit or miss. It was really hard to keep back from people who were taking up the middle of the aisle I needed 
Last weekend I saw a guy at the Target with the freezer case open talking with someone on the phone going over all of the ice cream options they had in stock, of course picking up each one he was telling the person on the other end about.
Standing there, handling, talking and breathing all over everything in the freezer, and blocking the aisle he was in. Completely oblivious.
Someone told me in the local TJ's employees were telling people to not touch merchandise if it wasn't necessary.
Part of the messaging from our supermarkets is to make your decision before picking things up - aka, don't pick up, think about it, then put it back.6 -
My emotions are so on edge these days. I saw on Facebook that a childhood friend's father passed away from COVID-19. I didn't know her father, and I'm not all that close to her anymore, but I started crying when I read it.
Poor lady was diagnosed with PPMS 6 months ago and now had her father die. Crappity crap crap. Between that and ridiculous work stress this week, all I want to do is drink and play video games.
It's the same in England, everyone keeping their distance, feels really weird going to the shops for essentials, all pubs and bars are shut, everyone is washing their hands all the time, even cleaning food packaging.3 -
moonangel12 wrote: »Had to venture out, just to Dollar General in search of something to use for ties on masks for my husband’s employees (hoping cheap clothesline will work - it would be puny to use as intended, but for ties hopefully it will work). Overheard a lady loudly (and grumpily) comment “... because it’s not airborne!” Oi... not sure the context, but you could tel she was annoyed for some reason or another. I had a headband/gaiter pulled over my nose and mouth, only saw a couple other people with masks.
@moonangel12 - if you can find them - skinny shoelaces having been working for people. Flat so easy to tie. 👍🏻4 -
Just in case anyone has not yet heard about this:An infectious disease breaks out in a densely populated metropolis and is spreading rapidly, causing respiratory failure and death in its victims. As local containment and response mechanisms break down and cases multiply, it becomes clear that a global response -- spanning governments, humanitarian organizations, health agencies and the military -- will be required.
That scenario is not a condensed narrative of the COVID-19 pandemic that currently has much of the globe on lockdown. Rather, it's the premise of a war game run last September by the Naval War College (NWC) in Newport, Rhode Island. And its findings -- released in summary format Wednesday -- reveal prescient and sometimes troubling parallels to the real-world response effort that continues today.
Called Urban Outbreak 2019, the war game involved 50 experts who spent two days coordinating response, containment and messaging efforts around the notional pandemic. Some of the conclusions, such as the way forced mass quarantine can backfire and trigger additional disease spread, and how the mortality rate is better than the overall number of disease cases in assessing the scale of an outbreak -- have been proved out through the response to the novel coronavirus.
Other insights specific to the military's response also hit home.
https://www.military.com/daily-news/2020/04/01/naval-war-college-ran-pandemic-war-game-2019-conclusions-were-eerie.html
Findings: https://digital-commons.usnwc.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1001&context=civmilresponse-program-sims-uo-20192 -
bmeadows380 wrote: »
WV is supposed to be doing it by packets, but I'm not sure it's going well. Parents are complaining about having to educate their children. Such as this one woman my brother overheard complaining about it, saying "that's what I send them to school for". *sigh* Supposedly, graduation and prom has been postponed to July. Personally, I kind of hope they decide to start the school year early this year, so the kids can catch up - instead of mid August, restart in mid-July or even right after the 4th. I doubt it, though.
As a teacher, I also believe that formal education should happen at school and/or with teachers unless one chooses to homeschool. But not everyone is able or willing to homeschool (obviously) for many, many reasons.
I'm wondering how many parents today were taught math like it is taught now. For example,
? = 56 + 37
=[50 + 6] + 37
=[50 + 6] + [30 + 7]
= 50 + [6 +30] + 7
= 50 + [30 + 6] + 7
= [50 + 30] + [6 + 7]
= 80 + 13
= 80+ [10 + 3]
= [80 + 10] + 3
= 90 + 3
= 93
I recall that the way I learned some content was very different than the way my parents learned it, and the way my kids learn it is different than the way I learned it.
It's fine if you are helping your kid with homework all along and you are seeing how they are being taught. But what happens if your child has done just fine on their own and didn't need help, and suddenly in 4th grade is struggling? There you are, trying to teach them to write
56
+37
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And you're telling them to "carry the 1."
I would not have known about common core math at lower grades except I work with students who sometimes are at those grade levels. I had to learn quickly how to teach it the way they were already being taught. And geometry doesn't involve proofs anymore; who knew?
Maybe I'm a lot older and many of you have been taught this way--I don't know. I just know that what is taught and how it is taught changes, and a lot of folks might struggle to figure out what the heck their child is trying to do when it is obvious to the parent how to do it their own way.
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bmeadows380 wrote: »
WV is supposed to be doing it by packets, but I'm not sure it's going well. Parents are complaining about having to educate their children. Such as this one woman my brother overheard complaining about it, saying "that's what I send them to school for". *sigh* Supposedly, graduation and prom has been postponed to July. Personally, I kind of hope they decide to start the school year early this year, so the kids can catch up - instead of mid August, restart in mid-July or even right after the 4th. I doubt it, though.
As a teacher, I also believe that formal education should happen at school and/or with teachers unless one chooses to homeschool. But not everyone is able or willing to homeschool (obviously) for many, many reasons.
I'm wondering how many parents today were taught math like it is taught now. For example,
? = 56 + 37
=[50 + 6] + 37
=[50 + 6] + [30 + 7]
= 50 + [6 +30] + 7
= 50 + [30 + 6] + 7
= [50 + 30] + [6 + 7]
= 80 + 13
= 80+ [10 + 3]
= [80 + 10] + 3
= 90 + 3
= 93
I recall that the way I learned some content was very different than the way my parents learned it, and the way my kids learn it is different than the way I learned it.
It's fine if you are helping your kid with homework all along and you are seeing how they are being taught. But what happens if your child has done just fine on their own and didn't need help, and suddenly in 4th grade is struggling? There you are, trying to teach them to write
56
+37
______
And you're telling them to "carry the 1."
I would not have known about common core math at lower grades except I work with students who sometimes are at those grade levels. I had to learn quickly how to teach it the way they were already being taught. And geometry doesn't involve proofs anymore; who knew?
Maybe I'm a lot older and many of you have been taught this way--I don't know. I just know that what is taught and how it is taught changes, and a lot of folks might struggle to figure out what the heck their child is trying to do when it is obvious to the parent how to do it their own way.
They need a "horrified" button.10 -
ShinyFuture wrote: »bmeadows380 wrote: »
WV is supposed to be doing it by packets, but I'm not sure it's going well. Parents are complaining about having to educate their children. Such as this one woman my brother overheard complaining about it, saying "that's what I send them to school for". *sigh* Supposedly, graduation and prom has been postponed to July. Personally, I kind of hope they decide to start the school year early this year, so the kids can catch up - instead of mid August, restart in mid-July or even right after the 4th. I doubt it, though.
As a teacher, I also believe that formal education should happen at school and/or with teachers unless one chooses to homeschool. But not everyone is able or willing to homeschool (obviously) for many, many reasons.
I'm wondering how many parents today were taught math like it is taught now. For example,
? = 56 + 37
=[50 + 6] + 37
=[50 + 6] + [30 + 7]
= 50 + [6 +30] + 7
= 50 + [30 + 6] + 7
= [50 + 30] + [6 + 7]
= 80 + 13
= 80+ [10 + 3]
= [80 + 10] + 3
= 90 + 3
= 93
I recall that the way I learned some content was very different than the way my parents learned it, and the way my kids learn it is different than the way I learned it.
It's fine if you are helping your kid with homework all along and you are seeing how they are being taught. But what happens if your child has done just fine on their own and didn't need help, and suddenly in 4th grade is struggling? There you are, trying to teach them to write
56
+37
______
And you're telling them to "carry the 1."
I would not have known about common core math at lower grades except I work with students who sometimes are at those grade levels. I had to learn quickly how to teach it the way they were already being taught. And geometry doesn't involve proofs anymore; who knew?
Maybe I'm a lot older and many of you have been taught this way--I don't know. I just know that what is taught and how it is taught changes, and a lot of folks might struggle to figure out what the heck their child is trying to do when it is obvious to the parent how to do it their own way.
They need a "horrified" button.
horrified for whom? the parents for why common core is making everything so difficult, or the kids that don't get their parents' old fashioned way of doing things? lol
At the same time, we're not talking normal circumstances here. We're talking the event of our lifetime, a pandemic that is sweeping the world and killing thousands. Schools aren't being closed because the government doesn't want to deal with them; they understand the hardship and would have kept the schools open if it was remotely practical to do so. I know teachers would much rather be in a structured classroom where they know they have their students' attention and know they are getting what they need than trying to continue the school year from home, either teaching virtually or making up lesson plan packets to be sent home. The situation, however, calls for desperate measures.
It's one thing to say how difficult it is trying to juggle doing your own job at home and trying to help the kids stay on track; its understandable to be burdened and lost in what the kids' are learning (though I thought the point of common core was not to judge on method but on the answer; so if the kid gets the answer right because they do it the way mom or dad showed them, should it not still be correct?) It's understandable to be stressed, trying to keep up with everything and keep the kids going while the world has turned topsy turvy.
It's not okay, however, to be put out and complaining that this is all inconvenient and be upset because they think they shouldn't have to be putting up with the situation when its all being "blown out of proportion" or "its just getting the old people, not the kids, so why are we pulling the kids from school?" Just like the parents who threw a fit when the schools were shut down because "we've already bought the dress and its' my daughter's senior year and how dare they ruin this major moment of her life? How dare they shut down prom! (and yes, I did actually hear that stated nearly word for word when WV shut the schools down). Its one thing to be stressed; it's entirely another to refuse to acknowledge the reasons behind the schools being shut down and the state put into a lockdown. Its also quite another thing entirely to refuse to try to help your child in whatever way you can to keep up as best they can, knowing that they need this education to succeed later in life.
To me, its no different than folks who refuse to abide by the 6 ft rule or continue to have parties or whatever, because its their life and how dare they tell us what to do.5 -
bmeadows380 wrote: »
WV is supposed to be doing it by packets, but I'm not sure it's going well. Parents are complaining about having to educate their children. Such as this one woman my brother overheard complaining about it, saying "that's what I send them to school for". *sigh* Supposedly, graduation and prom has been postponed to July. Personally, I kind of hope they decide to start the school year early this year, so the kids can catch up - instead of mid August, restart in mid-July or even right after the 4th. I doubt it, though.
As a teacher, I also believe that formal education should happen at school and/or with teachers unless one chooses to homeschool. But not everyone is able or willing to homeschool (obviously) for many, many reasons.
I'm wondering how many parents today were taught math like it is taught now. For example,
? = 56 + 37
=[50 + 6] + 37
=[50 + 6] + [30 + 7]
= 50 + [6 +30] + 7
= 50 + [30 + 6] + 7
= [50 + 30] + [6 + 7]
= 80 + 13
= 80+ [10 + 3]
= [80 + 10] + 3
= 90 + 3
= 93
I recall that the way I learned some content was very different than the way my parents learned it, and the way my kids learn it is different than the way I learned it.
It's fine if you are helping your kid with homework all along and you are seeing how they are being taught. But what happens if your child has done just fine on their own and didn't need help, and suddenly in 4th grade is struggling? There you are, trying to teach them to write
56
+37
______
And you're telling them to "carry the 1."
I would not have known about common core math at lower grades except I work with students who sometimes are at those grade levels. I had to learn quickly how to teach it the way they were already being taught. And geometry doesn't involve proofs anymore; who knew?
Maybe I'm a lot older and many of you have been taught this way--I don't know. I just know that what is taught and how it is taught changes, and a lot of folks might struggle to figure out what the heck their child is trying to do when it is obvious to the parent how to do it their own way.
That's really interesting. That definitely not how I learned to do it in school (1960s); I learned that "carry the one" thing.
But the stepwise thing is much closer to how I do arithmetic in my head, and have as a practical matter for my whole adult life. (I wouldn't do every single one of the steps you show, but I definitely simplify the addends to ones that are easier to add in my head.)
I pretty much can only do the "carry the one" method on paper, not in my head.
Apparently other people's mileage varies.
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T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »Just in case anyone has not yet heard about this:An infectious disease breaks out in a densely populated metropolis and is spreading rapidly, causing respiratory failure and death in its victims. As local containment and response mechanisms break down and cases multiply, it becomes clear that a global response -- spanning governments, humanitarian organizations, health agencies and the military -- will be required.
That scenario is not a condensed narrative of the COVID-19 pandemic that currently has much of the globe on lockdown. Rather, it's the premise of a war game run last September by the Naval War College (NWC) in Newport, Rhode Island. And its findings -- released in summary format Wednesday -- reveal prescient and sometimes troubling parallels to the real-world response effort that continues today.
That scenario is also the basis of countless fiction books and movies released in the past, so no surprises there.
(I somehow screwed up the quote tags, sorry about that.)0 -
bmeadows380 wrote: »
WV is supposed to be doing it by packets, but I'm not sure it's going well. Parents are complaining about having to educate their children. Such as this one woman my brother overheard complaining about it, saying "that's what I send them to school for". *sigh* Supposedly, graduation and prom has been postponed to July. Personally, I kind of hope they decide to start the school year early this year, so the kids can catch up - instead of mid August, restart in mid-July or even right after the 4th. I doubt it, though.
As a teacher, I also believe that formal education should happen at school and/or with teachers unless one chooses to homeschool. But not everyone is able or willing to homeschool (obviously) for many, many reasons.
I'm wondering how many parents today were taught math like it is taught now. For example,
? = 56 + 37
=[50 + 6] + 37
=[50 + 6] + [30 + 7]
= 50 + [6 +30] + 7
= 50 + [30 + 6] + 7
= [50 + 30] + [6 + 7]
= 80 + 13
= 80+ [10 + 3]
= [80 + 10] + 3
= 90 + 3
= 93
I recall that the way I learned some content was very different than the way my parents learned it, and the way my kids learn it is different than the way I learned it.
It's fine if you are helping your kid with homework all along and you are seeing how they are being taught. But what happens if your child has done just fine on their own and didn't need help, and suddenly in 4th grade is struggling? There you are, trying to teach them to write
56
+37
______
And you're telling them to "carry the 1."
I would not have known about common core math at lower grades except I work with students who sometimes are at those grade levels. I had to learn quickly how to teach it the way they were already being taught. And geometry doesn't involve proofs anymore; who knew?
Maybe I'm a lot older and many of you have been taught this way--I don't know. I just know that what is taught and how it is taught changes, and a lot of folks might struggle to figure out what the heck their child is trying to do when it is obvious to the parent how to do it their own way.
That's really interesting. That definitely not how I learned to do it in school (1960s); I learned that "carry the one" thing.
But the stepwise thing is much closer to how I do arithmetic in my head, and have as a practical matter for my whole adult life. (I wouldn't do every single one of the steps you show, but I definitely simplify the addends to ones that are easier to add in my head.)
I pretty much can only do the "carry the one" method on paper, not in my head.
Apparently other people's mileage varies.
Yeah, I was taught the carry the one thing, and am pretty good at addition in my head, and the new thing, which I'd not seen before, seems quite intuitive to me. I'd think you should be able to learn either way and have the other make sense.4 -
JRsLateInLifeMom wrote: »Meadows- Since this is effecting the whole world all the leaders need to get together discuss a world wide plan like this until this is over. Their predictions is this will be going on even in November.
Problem is instead of humanity the natural human greed will stop it from happening.The homeless rate after this will be huge
Australia Shutdown announced it will be for 6 more months 5minutes ago was posted
https://youtu.be/Yy7Nz2jUQtI
1) New South Wales is a state, not the whole of Australia
2) that's not actually what the premier said.
That restrictions will be needed for a long period to control the number of active cases at any one is a no brainer. Anyone still thinking this will all be over in a few weeks needs to wake up.11 -
Nony_Mouse wrote: »JRsLateInLifeMom wrote: »Meadows- Since this is effecting the whole world all the leaders need to get together discuss a world wide plan like this until this is over. Their predictions is this will be going on even in November.
Problem is instead of humanity the natural human greed will stop it from happening.The homeless rate after this will be huge
Australia Shutdown announced it will be for 6 more months 5minutes ago was postedhttps://youtu.be/Yy7Nz2jUQtI
1) New South Wales is a state, not the whole of Australia
2) that's not actually what the premier said.
That restrictions will be needed for a long period to control the number of active cases at any one is a no brainer. Anyone still thinking this will all be over in a few weeks needs to wake up.
"We're in this for at least 6 months" is that long period for any kind of restrictions, then? now specifically shutdown or what have you?0 -
Nony_Mouse wrote: »JRsLateInLifeMom wrote: »Meadows- Since this is effecting the whole world all the leaders need to get together discuss a world wide plan like this until this is over. Their predictions is this will be going on even in November.
Problem is instead of humanity the natural human greed will stop it from happening.The homeless rate after this will be huge
Australia Shutdown announced it will be for 6 more months 5minutes ago was postedhttps://youtu.be/Yy7Nz2jUQtI
1) New South Wales is a state, not the whole of Australia
2) that's not actually what the premier said.
That restrictions will be needed for a long period to control the number of active cases at any one is a no brainer. Anyone still thinking this will all be over in a few weeks needs to wake up.
"We're in this for at least 6 months" is that long period for any kind of restrictions, then? now specifically shutdown or what have you?
Can you maybe clarify what you've said/asked there @lkpducky? Words seem to be missing and I'd like to respond appropriately.4 -
The NSW premier said on the video "I don't care what the prime minister said, we're in it for at least six months" that was at 1:40. I think I understand now that she's referring to the length of time of the current restrictions (not leaving home except for specific reasons)...?0
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The NSW premier said on the video "I don't care what the prime minister said, we're in it for at least six months" that was at 1:40. I think I understand now that she's referring to the length of time of the current restrictions (not leaving home except for specific reasons)...?
Yes, that is what she said. The person who posted the video said "Australia Shutdown announced it will be for 6 more months". As if this was a mandate/decree thing. It's more of an acknowledgement that restrictions will be required for some time, it's not set in stone. AKA, she's being realistic. NZ's government is the same, except giving a potentially even longer timescale. Our restrictions (currently) are tougher than NSW's, the intention for us is to oscillate in and out of various levels of restriction as required, but none of them are 'business as normal' (though level 1 is pretty tame, I can't see that one happening though until the very end, we can probably hope for periods of level 2).
This is a good breakdown by state for Australia: https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/apr/03/social-distancing-rules-australia-coronavirus-strict-new-laws-legal-illegal-state-physical-restrictions-guidelines-explained-nsw-victoria-qld-queensland-act-sa-wa-two-person-rule
And an article more on NSW with the statement about 6 months: https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/nsw-coronavirus-numbers-stabilise-with-2389-cases-20200403-p54gnm.html
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@Nony_Mouse thanks!1
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I honestly think people need to prepare themselves for life being very different for the foreseeable future, like the rest of the year, not the rest of the month. I know different countries, and even different states/regions within countries will do different things, but I for one am fully on Team Stay at Home.12
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Update from Italy: New cases still going down in the North, deaths still high. New cases slightly higher in the South, but numbers are nowhere near the North. Fingers crossed.
Now there's talk about "Phase 2"---what will happen after April 13th, when things slowly start to open up. There are ideas here about testing to see who has had the virus. The reason being that those people should be able to circulate liberally. So, these people will have to have a certificate verifying that they have resistance to the virus. This will entail testing of the general public. Those who have not had the virus will be restricted until a vaccine is available. This will also help with vaccine numbers, and data in general on COV19.9
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