Coronavirus prep
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Thank goodness, sanity prevails on a local level. Memphis and Shelby County are NOT moving to phase 3, which was planned to begin Monday despite not hitting any of the metrics required to move to phase 3.
Locally our positive rate has gone from 4 something to 8 something, and the rolling 7 day average new cases was 80 when we moved into phase 2, yesterday’s new cases were an all time high of 256.
I’m concerned that it may be too late to stuff the genie back in the bottle - when the county moved to phase 2, a lot of people seemingly heard that as “covid is over, it’s safe to go back to normal now,” and restarted their social lives. My mom’s elderly friends urged her to resume normal activities. But I told her, wait, give it one more month for me, because this is actually the most dangerous time - because nothing has changed except that people have stopped being careful. I figured by the end of a month the effects would be visible. And then we had 11 nights of large demonstrations in multiple parts of the city, on top of everything else. And now we are fixing to reap the whirlwind.11 -
We have plenty of masks here, of the cheap kind, and lots of places are giving them away. Unfortunately we also have a large percentage of stubborn people. Often, of a couple, the woman will mask and the man will not. It’s also become a political statement. At tsc, zero percent of people are wearing masks, not even the elderly. And then there are young people who just can’t be made to do anything. It’s law that food handlers and front-facing restaurant workers have to wear masks, my husband stopped at a five guys and the whole staff had them around their chins.ExistingFish wrote: »I haven't read all the replies.
For those who say mask usage is low where you are, what is the availability of masks?
I saw low mask usage in the last couple of weeks, probably since we went into phase 1 on May 4th. Suddenly, mask usage is going up. But also, I JUST started seeing masks for sale in regular stores - Target, Kroger, etc. I bought some.
I think this may have something to do with low usage, not everyone can sew. Not everyone goes on etsy to buy masks. But if you can pick up a pack at your local store? When you are buying groceries? Maybe that will help with usage. It is a little sucky of the government to ask everyone (or require everyone) to wear masks but not PROVIDE them, and not only are they not provided they aren't available to the average person, what with doctor's offices and hair salons buying a bunch (I mean, they need them too).
That said, usage is way up this week. I'm glad to see more people wearing masks!
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ExistingFish wrote: »I haven't read all the replies.
For those who say mask usage is low where you are, what is the availability of masks?
I saw low mask usage in the last couple of weeks, probably since we went into phase 1 on May 4th. Suddenly, mask usage is going up. But also, I JUST started seeing masks for sale in regular stores - Target, Kroger, etc. I bought some.
I think this may have something to do with low usage, not everyone can sew. Not everyone goes on etsy to buy masks. But if you can pick up a pack at your local store? When you are buying groceries? Maybe that will help with usage. It is a little sucky of the government to ask everyone (or require everyone) to wear masks but not PROVIDE them, and not only are they not provided they aren't available to the average person, what with doctor's offices and hair salons buying a bunch (I mean, they need them too).
That said, usage is way up this week. I'm glad to see more people wearing masks!
Disposable masks are available at stores and lots of cloth masks are being sewn and sold by everyone who knows how. These are available at everywhere from flower shops to convenience stores. They are a available, people just won't wear them.8 -
janejellyroll wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »The worse part about the mask is when I get hot, bothered and mad.
I got a thinner one that works better but when I am near others I wear a mask when at Lowes, WM, etc which is seldom. When I walk down the road or out bush hogging in a field there is not need protect me from getting Covid-19. While most do not wear them in stores around here it does give me peace of that I am not stressing out another person due to not wearing a mask. Masks are a non issue just like wearing pants on a hot day is non issue. It is just something you to better fit into society.
If one is having trouble breathing due to wearing a mask most likely should not be out in public places period.
If someone has a legitimate medical restriction from wearing a mask, I don't think they should be expected to completely withdraw from society. The rest of us who can should wear masks to help account for the few who cannot, just as we don't expect those who cannot be vaccinated to withdraw from society . . . we get our vaccinations so that herd immunity helps protect them.
If those of us who can do what we *should*, then we will not have many instances of forcing others into lives of unnecessary restriction. It's such a tiny thing to ask of us (and I say this as someone who hates the mask for the psychological reasons listed above).
I am talking about people very likely to die if they get COVID-19 should not be out in public places in this pandemic. Since most of us do not think, eat and sleep the way we know we "should" often then we know acting in our best interest concerning COVID-19 is viewed by most has highly optional. 4 -
ExistingFish wrote: »I'm in Nebraska, and not much of the daily grind has changed here. It did for about 6-8 weeks, but now things are opening back up. I work at 3 COVID testing facilities, so I have dealt with a lot of the highs and lows. Personally, other than my kids having online learning, I still go about business as usual.
The frustrating thing right now is that the schools still don't know how they are going to operate come fall. They allowed families to vote on 3 options, all of which are ugly....either A. We continue remote learning (which was a complete joke and left many kids, mine included, feeling set back) B. Schools split students down by 50% by rotating every other week. Again, not a great option since many parents will be back to work and daycare costs are outrages. C. Split the school day in half, with 50% of the kids going in the morning and the other 50% in the afternoon.
As for prep, our shelves are well stocked in the stores, with the exception of Lysol wipes. Most businesses are back up and running, and more and more people are starting to come out. As of yesterday's press conference, the hospitals in my area still have 80% vents available, and 75% of beds available.
I was incredibly sick in February, and testing negative for the FLU. One of the gals I was training just had an antibody test done because he mom was sick in January....they both had antibodies. If had the extra cash, I'd get tested because I am pretty much convinced I had it.
Huh? You have to pay to be tested for Covid? We don't.
I meant for the antibody testing, but yes....we have had people calling stating that they thought the COVID test was free. We send the tests through LabCorp and they have been charging nearly $100 for the test.
I haven't seen a bill for mine yet (antibody) - dr office made me sign a form saying I understood it may not be covered. Now my insurance says on their website that they will cover all covid related treatment and testing with no copays. They also refunded my copay for therapy because I did teletherapy.
Now if you give blood, they will give you a free antibody test. I think because they want to know if your blood has antibodies anyway, so they'll be testing anyway, and just give you the result.
I need to look into the blood donation/antibody test because I have been wanting to donate for a while, just waiting until I felt physically able to (it takes me a LONG time to recover).1 -
ExistingFish wrote: »I'm in Nebraska, and not much of the daily grind has changed here. It did for about 6-8 weeks, but now things are opening back up. I work at 3 COVID testing facilities, so I have dealt with a lot of the highs and lows. Personally, other than my kids having online learning, I still go about business as usual.
The frustrating thing right now is that the schools still don't know how they are going to operate come fall. They allowed families to vote on 3 options, all of which are ugly....either A. We continue remote learning (which was a complete joke and left many kids, mine included, feeling set back) B. Schools split students down by 50% by rotating every other week. Again, not a great option since many parents will be back to work and daycare costs are outrages. C. Split the school day in half, with 50% of the kids going in the morning and the other 50% in the afternoon.
As for prep, our shelves are well stocked in the stores, with the exception of Lysol wipes. Most businesses are back up and running, and more and more people are starting to come out. As of yesterday's press conference, the hospitals in my area still have 80% vents available, and 75% of beds available.
I was incredibly sick in February, and testing negative for the FLU. One of the gals I was training just had an antibody test done because he mom was sick in January....they both had antibodies. If had the extra cash, I'd get tested because I am pretty much convinced I had it.
Huh? You have to pay to be tested for Covid? We don't.
I meant for the antibody testing, but yes....we have had people calling stating that they thought the COVID test was free. We send the tests through LabCorp and they have been charging nearly $100 for the test.
Now if you give blood, they will give you a free antibody test. I think because they want to know if your blood has antibodies anyway, so they'll be testing anyway, and just give you the result.
This isn't universal. I donated last Thursday and they are not doing that.
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ExistingFish wrote: »I'm in Nebraska, and not much of the daily grind has changed here. It did for about 6-8 weeks, but now things are opening back up. I work at 3 COVID testing facilities, so I have dealt with a lot of the highs and lows. Personally, other than my kids having online learning, I still go about business as usual.
The frustrating thing right now is that the schools still don't know how they are going to operate come fall. They allowed families to vote on 3 options, all of which are ugly....either A. We continue remote learning (which was a complete joke and left many kids, mine included, feeling set back) B. Schools split students down by 50% by rotating every other week. Again, not a great option since many parents will be back to work and daycare costs are outrages. C. Split the school day in half, with 50% of the kids going in the morning and the other 50% in the afternoon.
As for prep, our shelves are well stocked in the stores, with the exception of Lysol wipes. Most businesses are back up and running, and more and more people are starting to come out. As of yesterday's press conference, the hospitals in my area still have 80% vents available, and 75% of beds available.
I was incredibly sick in February, and testing negative for the FLU. One of the gals I was training just had an antibody test done because he mom was sick in January....they both had antibodies. If had the extra cash, I'd get tested because I am pretty much convinced I had it.
Huh? You have to pay to be tested for Covid? We don't.
I meant for the antibody testing, but yes....we have had people calling stating that they thought the COVID test was free. We send the tests through LabCorp and they have been charging nearly $100 for the test.
Now if you give blood, they will give you a free antibody test. I think because they want to know if your blood has antibodies anyway, so they'll be testing anyway, and just give you the result.
This isn't universal. I donated last Thursday and they are not doing that.
They aren't doing that everywhere here, but I googled about and found a center (with locations around the country) that is:
https://wgntv.com/news/coronavirus/chicago-blood-center-offering-free-covid-19-antibody-test-with-donation/
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The Red Cross bus was parked at the Lowe's front door 3 days ago but I did not talk to anyone doing the collecting. The last I read the antibody testing results where high in false negative and false positive results. I want the test but am waiting for improved testing results.3
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Thought I'd share something creative I've done. We have a couple down the street we met last year when we moved into our subdivision. My wife and I are in our mid to late 50s and they are in their early 70s, but like the coolest couple we've met here. They are social distancing like we are but we miss their company.
We played a lot of Jokers and Marbles with them around the dining table (before Covid19) -- it's a fun game where it's like Trouble on steroids. https://www.amazon.com/Jokers-Marbles-Game-Brown-Player/dp/B00MS1GK44
Since they are being careful and we want to respect that, I bought like 150 of these wooden 3 inch circles --listed for crafts or for natural baby teethers on Walmart's site along with balls (the kind that go in the bounce houses -- they will be the "marbles"). Along with that, I bought some huge playing cards. With all of this, we can recreate a Jokers and Marbles game board on our back patio, all while sitting well over 6 feet apart (and outside for extra safety). I'll use a fruit picker (we have citrus trees) to move the balls as well, so I don't have to get on the ground everytime. Should be fun and interesting. Wife says I'm crazy.18 -
ExistingFish wrote: »I'm in Nebraska, and not much of the daily grind has changed here. It did for about 6-8 weeks, but now things are opening back up. I work at 3 COVID testing facilities, so I have dealt with a lot of the highs and lows. Personally, other than my kids having online learning, I still go about business as usual.
The frustrating thing right now is that the schools still don't know how they are going to operate come fall. They allowed families to vote on 3 options, all of which are ugly....either A. We continue remote learning (which was a complete joke and left many kids, mine included, feeling set back) B. Schools split students down by 50% by rotating every other week. Again, not a great option since many parents will be back to work and daycare costs are outrages. C. Split the school day in half, with 50% of the kids going in the morning and the other 50% in the afternoon.
As for prep, our shelves are well stocked in the stores, with the exception of Lysol wipes. Most businesses are back up and running, and more and more people are starting to come out. As of yesterday's press conference, the hospitals in my area still have 80% vents available, and 75% of beds available.
I was incredibly sick in February, and testing negative for the FLU. One of the gals I was training just had an antibody test done because he mom was sick in January....they both had antibodies. If had the extra cash, I'd get tested because I am pretty much convinced I had it.
Huh? You have to pay to be tested for Covid? We don't.
I meant for the antibody testing, but yes....we have had people calling stating that they thought the COVID test was free. We send the tests through LabCorp and they have been charging nearly $100 for the test.
Now if you give blood, they will give you a free antibody test. I think because they want to know if your blood has antibodies anyway, so they'll be testing anyway, and just give you the result.
This isn't universal. I donated last Thursday and they are not doing that.
They aren't doing that everywhere here, but I googled about and found a center (with locations around the country) that is:
https://wgntv.com/news/coronavirus/chicago-blood-center-offering-free-covid-19-antibody-test-with-donation/
Interesting.
Did a GIS and apparently the Red Cross is doing it everywhere. Other blood donation centers are doing it on a location-by-location basis.3 -
MP. Very clever. How nice of you to do that for them.3
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ExistingFish wrote: »I'm in Nebraska, and not much of the daily grind has changed here. It did for about 6-8 weeks, but now things are opening back up. I work at 3 COVID testing facilities, so I have dealt with a lot of the highs and lows. Personally, other than my kids having online learning, I still go about business as usual.
The frustrating thing right now is that the schools still don't know how they are going to operate come fall. They allowed families to vote on 3 options, all of which are ugly....either A. We continue remote learning (which was a complete joke and left many kids, mine included, feeling set back) B. Schools split students down by 50% by rotating every other week. Again, not a great option since many parents will be back to work and daycare costs are outrages. C. Split the school day in half, with 50% of the kids going in the morning and the other 50% in the afternoon.
As for prep, our shelves are well stocked in the stores, with the exception of Lysol wipes. Most businesses are back up and running, and more and more people are starting to come out. As of yesterday's press conference, the hospitals in my area still have 80% vents available, and 75% of beds available.
I was incredibly sick in February, and testing negative for the FLU. One of the gals I was training just had an antibody test done because he mom was sick in January....they both had antibodies. If had the extra cash, I'd get tested because I am pretty much convinced I had it.
Huh? You have to pay to be tested for Covid? We don't.
I meant for the antibody testing, but yes....we have had people calling stating that they thought the COVID test was free. We send the tests through LabCorp and they have been charging nearly $100 for the test.
Now if you give blood, they will give you a free antibody test. I think because they want to know if your blood has antibodies anyway, so they'll be testing anyway, and just give you the result.
This isn't universal. I donated last Thursday and they are not doing that.
They aren't doing that everywhere here, but I googled about and found a center (with locations around the country) that is:
https://wgntv.com/news/coronavirus/chicago-blood-center-offering-free-covid-19-antibody-test-with-donation/
Interesting.
Did a GIS and apparently the Red Cross is doing it everywhere. Other blood donation centers are doing it on a location-by-location basis.
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GaleHawkins wrote: »The Red Cross bus was parked at the Lowe's front door 3 days ago but I did not talk to anyone doing the collecting. The last I read the antibody testing results where high in false negative and false positive results. I want the test but am waiting for improved testing results.
Yeah, that's what I've read too, unfortunately.
I mainly just want it because I am curious anyway.2 -
Italy is doing free antibody testing of selective people all over the country to get data. They call you and tell you where to go to be tested. Problem is, the response hasn't been what was expected. Reading the paper today the reason given is fear that testing positive will result in quaranteening, and people don't want that. So, about a third agree to have it done.1
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I see less and less people wearing masks.
I guess people think life is getting better because things are starting to reopen a bit. They're letting down their guard.
One of our thrift stores' websites said when they reopen they expect their customers to wear a mask. A reply asked 'so if I'm not able to wear a mask due to my health, I can't come into your store?' Umm, yeh, if your health is telling you that you cannot wear a mask, maybe being in a thrift store isn't the best place to be anyways??
My niece and her dh run a neurology office in Maine and she says they've been given plenty of grief about having to wear masks. They're only reopened for a few weeks now.
Get over yourselves people. Life isn't just all about you. Think of others too. And no, these were not people who, due to health problems, couldn't wear masks. Another thought to those who cannot wear masks due to health issues....get a shield. I've seen some people using those lately. 12 -
Our area is still considered a hot spot yet I see very few people wearing masks... seems to be site specific. The outdoor custard trailer? We are normally the only ones wearing them both while waiting and ordering... them we take our stuff back to the vehicle. Very few people following the distancing suggestions, large groups congregating. Aldi (grocery store) is 50/50 probably. They have taken up their directional stickers, but still limiting numbers in the store, wiping down carts between customers, limiting check out contact (you have to wait until the other person’s items have cleared the belt before loading yours, wiping down pin pad, etc), and I have noticed most everywhere that more stuff is packaged now (produce) which is good for contamination purposes but stinks in terms of added packaging to throw away and also not be able to choose items or amounts now.4
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GaleHawkins wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »The worse part about the mask is when I get hot, bothered and mad.
I got a thinner one that works better but when I am near others I wear a mask when at Lowes, WM, etc which is seldom. When I walk down the road or out bush hogging in a field there is not need protect me from getting Covid-19. While most do not wear them in stores around here it does give me peace of that I am not stressing out another person due to not wearing a mask. Masks are a non issue just like wearing pants on a hot day is non issue. It is just something you to better fit into society.
If one is having trouble breathing due to wearing a mask most likely should not be out in public places period.
If someone has a legitimate medical restriction from wearing a mask, I don't think they should be expected to completely withdraw from society. The rest of us who can should wear masks to help account for the few who cannot, just as we don't expect those who cannot be vaccinated to withdraw from society . . . we get our vaccinations so that herd immunity helps protect them.
If those of us who can do what we *should*, then we will not have many instances of forcing others into lives of unnecessary restriction. It's such a tiny thing to ask of us (and I say this as someone who hates the mask for the psychological reasons listed above).
I am talking about people very likely to die if they get COVID-19 should not be out in public places in this pandemic. Since most of us do not think, eat and sleep the way we know we "should" often then we know acting in our best interest concerning COVID-19 is viewed by most has highly optional.
You wrote "If one is having trouble breathing due to wearing a mask . . . " If you were also referring to people likely to die if they get COVID-19, then you should have made that clear. Even then, it sounds like you're arguing that people who have pre-existing conditions should shut themselves off from the world to due to emotional infants who don't want to take simple steps to protect their fellow humans.8 -
I'm downtown today, rather than in my neighborhood, and outdoors it seems like fewer people are wearing masks and many who are are wearing them around their chin (or occasionally over the mouth but not nose). There is NO difficulty getting masks here.
The good thing is that the buildings are being very strict about social distancing and masks -- you can't go in them without masks -- and there are few enough people downtown that social distancing isn't hard, but it still seems odd. Partly it's probably because it's hot, partly because the people walking around outside are from a much broader range of areas than those you see in my neighborhood.
Not bothersome, but odd.3 -
Ayup. ^^The imaginary mask thing. Wear it down below your nose and mouth. I saw this at the hospital when my relative was getting a blood test and it was the nurse. Why bother.4
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Here's something I just thought about (maybe you guys have too...)
IF someone has already had the virus they likely won't be offered the first round of vaccines I wouldn't think, unless they are "essential workers" [cough].
What do you think? Do you think they will test people before vaccinating? That would be the sensible thing to do with vaccines being in such high demand when they get to market. It seems like several companies could have vaccines in six months or so...wonder who gets them after first responders/medical personnel? Of course I'd like it to be people over 65...2 -
Diatonic12 wrote: »Ayup. ^^The imaginary mask thing. Wear it down below your nose and mouth. I saw this at the hospital when my relative was getting a blood test and it was the nurse. Why bother.
Most or all hospitals here wouldn’t have let you in.
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cmriverside wrote: »Here's something I just thought about (maybe you guys have too...)
IF someone has already had the virus they likely won't be offered the first round of vaccines I wouldn't think, unless they are "essential workers" [cough].
What do you think? Do you think they will test people before vaccinating? That would be the sensible thing to do with vaccines being in such high demand when they get to market. It seems like several companies could have vaccines in six months or so...wonder who gets them after first responders/medical personnel? Of course I'd like it to be people over 65...
While I think that would be a great idea, it basically doubles the amount of work and personnel required to get people vaccinated, and I doubt that will be possible in the US, at least not in many places. Also, I'm not sure the antibody testing is covered by insurance or not, and if not you wouldn't want a situation where someone who should be first in line can't afford the antibody test that proves they should be there. Maybe I'm wrong and that won't be an issue.
I would think they could start with over 65, then go with some parameters that make you high risk that would be pretty easy to determine right there in line for the jab.
There's also still a question of how long you might get immunity for once you've had the virus, so if we are talking about say February of next year, there might already be a large group of people who got it in the first wave and already have waning immunity. Meh, hopefully we'll understand all of this better by then anyway!
I've also heard as much as 25% of Americans polled said they won't get a vaccine once it's available so maybe it won't be as high a demand as you'd assume. 7 -
cmriverside wrote: »Here's something I just thought about (maybe you guys have too...)
IF someone has already had the virus they likely won't be offered the first round of vaccines I wouldn't think, unless they are "essential workers" [cough].
What do you think? Do you think they will test people before vaccinating? That would be the sensible thing to do with vaccines being in such high demand when they get to market. It seems like several companies could have vaccines in six months or so...wonder who gets them after first responders/medical personnel? Of course I'd like it to be people over 65...
We already have that with flu vaccinations here - over 65, or with a pre-existing condition get it first. Then this year it was essential workers next, and then the rest of the population.
So I am guessing it would be similar.
Our covid-free status has ended. 2 people who came into the country and were released early from quarantine to see a dying family member have now tested positive.4 -
So, yay for being old, right? I'm all about cutting in line. I haven't had a face-to-face friendly conversation in months. I'm OVER this whole social distancing thing. I live alone and have no family and I miss the small social life I had, the stores, I'm even afraid to get my teeth cleaned.
I agree @kimny72 - we don't pre-test flu shot candidates and then there's the whole anti-vaxxer thing.
Well, Oregon does have a low infection rate, may as well just tick that state's box as, "Don't need it." (There is a significant anti-vax contingency in OR.)
Time will tell. Bring on the needles, I say.
..and @jo_nz , we do have 360 Million people here and well over 2 million cases, so our situation is decidedly different.2 -
cmriverside wrote: »So, yay for being old, right? I'm all about cutting in line. I haven't had a face-to-face friendly conversation in months. I'm OVER this whole social distancing thing. I live alone and have no family and I miss the small social life I had, the stores, I'm even afraid to get my teeth cleaned.
I agree @kimny72 - we don't pre-test flu shot candidates and then there's the whole anti-vaxxer thing. Well, Oregon does have a low infection rate, may as well just tick that state's box as, "Don't need it." (There is a significant anti-vax contingency in OR.)
Time will tell. Bring on the needles, I say.
I don't make the age cutoff, but I'll be as right behind you as they'll let me. I'm all for better living through science, especially as bizarre as this virus is!7 -
I’m a senior..I plan to get it as soon as I can!4
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But I'm even wondering if they will ask people, "Have you tested positive?" Of course, Public Health will have us on record if we did and that would probably mean being disqualified from the vaccine? I don't know. I guess it is all a wait-and-see thing.
I mean, the push to get enough vaccine out there for the billions of at-risk people in the world is pretty intense. Not everyone will get the vaccine in time.0 -
I'll be interested in a vaccine, eventually. I don't think I necessarily want to be first in line for the new "skip some steps to rush to market" vaccine. I don't do a lot of social stuff, so I'm just risking myself and my husband, here. He's not much more social than me, either. I guess my coworkers, too - but they can't be bothered to wear masks, and don't seem to understand social distancing. I think they're endangering me more than I am them. We'll see how risky the vaccine is, compared to the disease.
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cmriverside wrote: »But I'm even wondering if they will ask people, "Have you tested positive?" Of course, Public Health will have us on record if we did and that would probably mean being disqualified from the vaccine? I don't know. I guess it is all a wait-and-see thing.
I mean, the push to get enough vaccine out there for the billions of at-risk people in the world is pretty intense. Not everyone will get the vaccine in time.
Ah, but there are many that are working on it and will produce it. I'm hopeful. In Italy, we should have it by Fall. Yes, I know the vaccine itself can be a risk. We will evaluate when the time comes.5 -
snowflake954 wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »But I'm even wondering if they will ask people, "Have you tested positive?" Of course, Public Health will have us on record if we did and that would probably mean being disqualified from the vaccine? I don't know. I guess it is all a wait-and-see thing.
I mean, the push to get enough vaccine out there for the billions of at-risk people in the world is pretty intense. Not everyone will get the vaccine in time.
Ah, but there are many that are working on it and will produce it. I'm hopeful. In Italy, we should have it by Fall. Yes, I know the vaccine itself can be a risk. We will evaluate when the time comes.
Oh, I am with you snowflake. I'm pretty amazed at how quickly it seems to be going. I was pretty skeptical that a vaccine would be produced this quickly. I guess time will tell as to its effectiveness. It's an awfully large "experiment."3
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