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I have also been told that using a non woven lining in between the two fabric layers is best. I had some fusible interfacing and made mask using higher thread count fabrics. Sheets are a great idea, I have some 600 count sheets I have been saving to use as drop cloths. Now we just need to be able to find elastic which would be easier than making my own bias tape for ties. Local stores have been sold out of Bias tape, elastic, shoe laces, etc, for weeks and online stores are projecting that they cannot ship until May.
Thank you for taking care of your local Humane Society!
Try finding hair bands. I have heard they work.3 -
T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »Bry_Fitness70 wrote: »amusedmonkey wrote: »
I'm isolating with my husband and two teenagers. I imagine isolating alone would be much harder and really feel for everyone in that situation. At least I have other people to interact with - even if they do annoy me occasionally; for the most part, we get along very well though. Plus we have the advantage of a yard and two outbuildings so we aren't stuck staring at each other all day.cwolfman13 wrote: »I have a question............where is the logic of shutting down certain aisles in stores such as WalMart? I'm sure their reasoning is sound, but everybody I've talked with says the same thing. Now they're going to be shoving more people into less room/ Unless they're also limiting number of consumers? And toys? I know adults are on the prowl for new and different things to do; wouldn't it make sense kids might be getting ultra bored too? Wouldn't buying toys be as essential as, oh say,....stocking up on soda, chips, or something?
No disagreeing necessary, just asking a question for opinions.
They aren't doing that here...but my guess would be to curb "joy shopping" and people just getting out of the house to browse around Wal-Mart and such.
What they're doing here as of 8 AM this morning is limiting the number of people in the store to 20% of capacity which means if you need to go get something it's probably actually going to be an essential need because you'll likely be waiting in a line outside the store to get in. I haven't seen much of an issue in regards to large numbers of people when I go to the regular grocery store or even Costco, but I've driven by the Walmart parking lot a few times and it looks like the week before Christmas or something, so I was kind of expecting these people limits to come down the pipe.
I have also heard complaints from other non-essential retailers that it isn't fair that they have to shut down, but Walmart and Target can continue to sell those "non-essential" items.
I'm reasonably sure that "joy shopping" can't be stopped. I seriously spent probably fifteen or twenty minutes looking at baby/kid clothes at Target last week, just to have something to do. I don't have kids. I don't even know anyone who has kids. But it was there, it was retail and it wasn't my *kitten* apartment. Today is going to be liquor store day and I can't decide whether I should walk or drive so I can bring more home. I am also extremely likely to examine every bottle of wine and spirits they have, just to kill an hour outside my prison. And hopefully find every clerk in the store to deeply discuss drink options with. I stay home for as long as I can stand it, but every chance I have to get out where actual living human people are is stretched out to the utmost justifiable limit. They can shut down whatever aisles they want, limit the numbers inside as much as they want, but for a lot of folks, that's our only connection with actual people and I will soak up every single second and then hoard the memory for days. Text and FaceTime are moderately adequate to try and connect, but there's nothing like the feeling of being around PEOPLE. And stores are just about the only places left that have PEOPLE in them.
Lowe's appears to be the joy shopping destination in my town. I get it. The weather is perfect for gardening and all those home tasks they suddenly have time for. It's really defeating the purpose, though...
This is just FTR, not to criticize anyone else or minimize their experience in any way at all. Humans are varied, and that variety is a wonderful thing about the world.
Whether isolating alone is hard(er) is a very individual thing. I live alone, only shopped once since 3/13, talked to a neighbor one day from a long distance, and a friend similarly on another day, and that's my in-person social contact (other than "good afternoon" or a hand wave to strangers when out for a walk). Happy as a clam.
I'm isolating with people and it's harder for me than isolating alone. I'm used to being alone while they're at work, now I feel like I've lost my "alone time" and I miss it. I can go and be alone in another room, but it isn't the same as having the entire house to myself. I'm feeling a bit suffocated, but it's not as bad as I thought. I have gone out twice in the last 30 days and only because I had to. I have never shopped for the sake of shopping, so joy shopping is a foreign concept to me. I understand it, but I can't comprehend it.
As in introvert, isolating alone would be a piece of cake. If this happened pre-wife and kids, I would be fine, I would probably have read 15 books, played 100 games of chess on the internet, and burned a lot more calories exercising over the past month.
Being quarantined with two young kids is very stressful at times. Especially when most of our neighborhood thinks that social isolating is discretionary and only necessary if it is convenient. A neighbor mom had a birthday yesterday, and 20 neighbors and their kids all gathered outside of her house to sing to her, then essentially had a block party for an hour. My kids weren't allowed, and both had serious meltdowns, it was awful (one mom had an Easter bunny costume "why can't we see the Easter bunny?"). We are definitely the meanest parents on the block - hopefully they will appreciate our efforts someday, but right now it is completely thankless.
Okay, that gives me a moment of gratitude. I could be quarantined with children. I can't think of a child I liked being around for 20 minutes, much less 20+ days of lockdown....although at this point, I'd probably be willing to give it a shot. I mean, I've kept a couple of plants alive for a few years now, that's pretty much the same as kids, right?
I'm childfree and laughing at all the people who droned on about how great their kids are when they don't see them most of the day. And now that they are stuck together, it's an entirely different story I'm seeing. Even my sister, who is still gone to work a lot of hours as a nurse, has a whole new perspective suddenly.🤣
Even the great kids are challenging to take care of during a quarantine. No one had built their lives to accommodate suddenly yanking their kids out of school with no notice in March and figuring out how to engage them while trying to work full time.13 -
bmeadows380 wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »
I guess I don't get the thing about being horrified about the cursive writing. Our grandparents had some skills that we don't have. My great-nieces and nephews will doubtlessly possess the ability to do things that I cannot. There's no general reason why skillsets must remain unchanging through generations.
It will be rather difficult to read original source information for a historian if they can't read cursive handwriting, and before you ask, I had a friend who started into a History Master's degree and it was vital that they get their information from the original sources, not copies or typed copies.
So one downside of not learning how to read cursive is a loss of history and information. If Great-grandaddy's journal is passed down, how will the child who can't read cursive read it and learn about his ancestor's thoughts?
Lol. I suppose if someone is specializing in a certain field that they can get specialized training in how to read original source material no matter what language or style it's written in. We don't teach everyone how to decipher original ancient Greek texts in public school either. And yet somehow the people who study them manage to learn later on. And figuring out what different styles of cursive or different writing fonts look like through the ages is not nearly as hard as learning a new language. My great granddaddy's cursive looks nothing like the style I learned in the 80s. And the style of writing on the constitution is even harder to read. And yet I can still figure it out. Some people just have a hard time with change and doing things differently freaks them out. That's what it boils down to.8 -
I'm one of those people who responds to invitations with, "Oh, how kind of you to think of me, but sorry, I already have plans," and the plans are to stay home alone in my sweats. I have pets and adult children at home, so social distancing has been a pretty easy task for me; I don't need other company. I went shopping before 3/13, and just went again on 4/06. I know I am lucky, to be so contented on my own. I do worry about others and feel sad about lost lives, lost income, lost joy. I'm exercising regularly to stay upbeat, and I love the challenge of teaching online in a way to reach and engage my students who are a particularly challenging group.
I have a couple of friends who are struggling with the isolation and I am happy to have them meet me at a specific dog park that is huge (over 2 miles for one loop) and has trails a good 10-12 feet wide throughout. The dog parks around here all have signs about how to be safe while using them. Those with slightly more narrow trails still have a good 8 feet across usually, but I only walk with my kids in those, b/c they are smaller and could potentially get more crowded. My dogs--a Border Collie and an Australian Shepherd--need two loops of the big park while I throw a ball the whole time. As it gets warmer, they will wear out more quickly. I may be able to back off how much we have to walk. I can't run on my local trail with them b/c it is too narrow and people there are *not* practicing social distancing. People in the DP seem to "get it," or maybe like me they are mostly introverts who naturally practice social distancing.
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I am really introverted and the first 10 days were fine. The last week I have been struggling with just an overall feeling of frustration. I live alone so I like being by myself, but i have realized that I need some kind of interaction, or at least to get out of my house every day. I am disabled, so I can't just go out and walk or jog or exercise outside, so I just get in my car and drive around. I have been stopping at the convenience store for a pop every couple of days.
I actually think the virus went through my area back at the end of January/early February. We only have 9 cases in our county at the moment. There were a lot of people who had respiratory issues, and short of breath. I got sick Feb. 8th with a sore throat and headache, then fever, coughing and somewhat short of breath, but didn't realize it at the time. If I sat in a chair and stayed still, I was fine. If I breathed in deep, I would hit a point where it felt harder to push past that point and if I did, I would cough for a minute or two. I remember the first day thinking I was coming down with a cold, then my fever spiked to 102 a couple of times. Otherwise, was around 99. I even remember saying to my coworker that for having a cold, I wasn't sneezing much. All but one day I felt well enough to go to work, so I did. In talking to several people in the last few weeks, a lot of them think they had it around the same time also.
So that feeling that I already had it isn't helping me want to stay home.6 -
moonangel12 wrote: »Going back to animals testing positive - is this now a risk to consider? Our neighbor’s dog comes over often to play with our dog (both neighbor dogs actually)... do I need to worry that our dog could share COVID either direction?
Totally aside from the issue of the dogs being infected, most people pet their dogs. I doubt many of them are washing their hands before they do so. So now any virus they may have shed onto surfaces they've touched or directly onto their hands is now on their dog's coat. I'm guessing when the dogs play together, there is some contact between their coats. Now you need to give dog a really good bath before letting it back in the house.0 -
musicfan68 wrote: »I am really introverted and the first 10 days were fine. The last week I have been struggling with just an overall feeling of frustration. I live alone so I like being by myself, but i have realized that I need some kind of interaction, or at least to get out of my house every day. I am disabled, so I can't just go out and walk or jog or exercise outside, so I just get in my car and drive around. I have been stopping at the convenience store for a pop every couple of days.
I actually think the virus went through my area back at the end of January/early February. We only have 9 cases in our county at the moment. There were a lot of people who had respiratory issues, and short of breath. I got sick Feb. 8th with a sore throat and headache, then fever, coughing and somewhat short of breath, but didn't realize it at the time. If I sat in a chair and stayed still, I was fine. If I breathed in deep, I would hit a point where it felt harder to push past that point and if I did, I would cough for a minute or two. I remember the first day thinking I was coming down with a cold, then my fever spiked to 102 a couple of times. Otherwise, was around 99. I even remember saying to my coworker that for having a cold, I wasn't sneezing much. All but one day I felt well enough to go to work, so I did. In talking to several people in the last few weeks, a lot of them think they had it around the same time also.
So that feeling that I already had it isn't helping me want to stay home.
You mean that only 9 people have tested positive in your county. Unless there is universal testing, we cannot assume that the number testing positive is actually the exact number who have it.
I think it is important to remember that about 25% of all colds are caused by other coronaviruses. I have been really sick with "just a cold" several times in the past 20 years (I can't remember before that).
If the illness wasn't spreading like wildfire and causing hospitals in your area to become overwhelmed, it probably wasn't COVID-19. That's what has been characteristic of this coronavirus from the get-go in China; it didn't have to mutate to that point. It isn't just about someone sick with fever and shortness of breath (or any other cluster of symptoms). It's the speed of transmission and the high rate of hospitalization necessary for 20% or so of those infected.
Please stay safe and stay well.
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musicfan68 wrote: »I am really introverted and the first 10 days were fine. The last week I have been struggling with just an overall feeling of frustration. I live alone so I like being by myself, but i have realized that I need some kind of interaction, or at least to get out of my house every day. I am disabled, so I can't just go out and walk or jog or exercise outside, so I just get in my car and drive around. I have been stopping at the convenience store for a pop every couple of days.
I actually think the virus went through my area back at the end of January/early February. We only have 9 cases in our county at the moment. There were a lot of people who had respiratory issues, and short of breath. I got sick Feb. 8th with a sore throat and headache, then fever, coughing and somewhat short of breath, but didn't realize it at the time. If I sat in a chair and stayed still, I was fine. If I breathed in deep, I would hit a point where it felt harder to push past that point and if I did, I would cough for a minute or two. I remember the first day thinking I was coming down with a cold, then my fever spiked to 102 a couple of times. Otherwise, was around 99. I even remember saying to my coworker that for having a cold, I wasn't sneezing much. All but one day I felt well enough to go to work, so I did. In talking to several people in the last few weeks, a lot of them think they had it around the same time also.
So that feeling that I already had it isn't helping me want to stay home.
You mean that only 9 people have tested positive in your county. Unless there is universal testing, we cannot assume that the number testing positive is actually the exact number who have it.
I think it is important to remember that about 25% of all colds are caused by other coronaviruses. I have been really sick with "just a cold" several times in the past 20 years (I can't remember before that).
If the illness wasn't spreading like wildfire and causing hospitals in your area to become overwhelmed, it probably wasn't COVID-19. That's what has been characteristic of this coronavirus from the get-go in China; it didn't have to mutate to that point. It isn't just about someone sick with fever and shortness of breath (or any other cluster of symptoms). It's the speed of transmission and the high rate of hospitalization necessary for 20% or so of those infected.
Please stay safe and stay well.
I've had lots of colds over the years also, and never had shortness of breath and basically no sneezing. Also, colds don't usually cause a fever. We had half our kids absent from school over a 2 week period, which was huge, more than normal, the last half of February. 80% of people don't need to be in the hospital, which is a pretty high percentage, most people have just mild symptoms. Even if 20% needed hospitalized, I don't think it would necessarily overwhelm our hospitals any more than usual. We live in a rural county in Iowa, with several hospitals spread out around the area. They always see a huge spike in Jan/Feb with Flu/Bronchitis, and other respiratory things. They weren't bothering to test people for COVID until the beginning of March. Not outside the realm of possibility that people had it in the weeks leading up to March, even people in the hospital.
I will be interested to get the antibody test to verify.3 -
musicfan68 wrote: »I am really introverted and the first 10 days were fine. The last week I have been struggling with just an overall feeling of frustration. I live alone so I like being by myself, but i have realized that I need some kind of interaction, or at least to get out of my house every day. I am disabled, so I can't just go out and walk or jog or exercise outside, so I just get in my car and drive around. I have been stopping at the convenience store for a pop every couple of days.
I actually think the virus went through my area back at the end of January/early February. We only have 9 cases in our county at the moment. There were a lot of people who had respiratory issues, and short of breath. I got sick Feb. 8th with a sore throat and headache, then fever, coughing and somewhat short of breath, but didn't realize it at the time. If I sat in a chair and stayed still, I was fine. If I breathed in deep, I would hit a point where it felt harder to push past that point and if I did, I would cough for a minute or two. I remember the first day thinking I was coming down with a cold, then my fever spiked to 102 a couple of times. Otherwise, was around 99. I even remember saying to my coworker that for having a cold, I wasn't sneezing much. All but one day I felt well enough to go to work, so I did. In talking to several people in the last few weeks, a lot of them think they had it around the same time also.
So that feeling that I already had it isn't helping me want to stay home.
I think your story may apply to several of us. I expect it will be a while before we can just pop in for an antibody test. In the mean time I plan to keep my antioxidant intake is as high as possible to help ward off the 'ground glass' looking lungs if I develop COVID-19. One way or another this will all be behind us one day.
It seems Amazon may be running smoother. Monday I order six different health related items and I noticed all shipped from Nashville TN early this morning. On my last order my items shipped from 8 difference warehouses as far away as Las Vegas.4 -
It was a somewhat bad flu season. I recall a lot of people having a bad flu back in November. I see 0 reason to think that was an outbreak of COVID and that my area already had it, and there are reasons my area would be likely to be among the earliest ones (I'm in a big city, major transportation hub, lots of people are reliant on public transportation, and there is a relatively large Chinese population compared to lots of other places, as well as lots of businesses with connections to China and people who engage in lots of international travel. Also, major medical centers, which yes, are likely to be overwhelmed by this and aren't by the yearly flu). And yes, they were testing some early on when there were believed to be only a few in the country. We had someone who had traveled in Wuhan and developed symptoms test positive in January and then his wife test positive later in Jan, which was reported as significant as evidence of human to human spread in the US.
There are other cities that fit this category even more, of course, such as NYC. Other areas have closer connections with Asia (Seattle for one, SF/Bay Area, LA). Boston also has a lot of international businesses. All of these areas have had major outbreaks (including mine), and they were obvious major outbreaks, connected with many positive tests, much pressure to get tests since there were many people hospitalized and some known cases early on with likely symptoms, and initially all traced to people traveling from China (or Italy, which I think was even more significant where I am, but later in the timeline), and then evidence of community transmission, and now many deaths. (Other areas like FL and NOLA have major outbreaks for various other reasons too likely having to do with travel to the area from all over the country and lots of congregating.)
I'm extremely skeptical that anywhere that doesn't have the types of characteristics I mention, and didn't have enough people hospitalized or dying to suspect a major outbreak actually had this illness (and have come out on the other side) with only 9 people testing positive. There are reasons, say, Seattle was a hot spot before NYC. There aren't really reasons most other places would be (and that certainly includes a rural county in IA, so that really sounds like wishful thinking to me).12 -
My town in ate as has had Covid for 3 months already so possible Very possible.
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JRsLateInLifeMom wrote: »My town in ate as has had Covid for 3 months already so possible Very possible.
How do you know this? Are you in the US?3 -
USA 🇺🇸 San Antonio Texas our bases received the first case to cruise ships even.
I know this because they announced it’s been 3 months a few days ago. I been in isolation over a month now left only 1x for food. Here’s our timeline started in November here. https://www.expressnews.com/news/local/article/Coronavirus-live-updates-A-timeline-of-COVID-19-15101570.php
It was contained to the base medical only until they oopsie let a lady out she went shopping 🛍 at the mall . Cleche sounding but true. Then the community cases were snowballing.2 -
China’s coming out of quarantine but the social distancing y precautions are the new norm. We should do the same https://apple.news/AHglO5RcwQyWkwGFuYRC12w2
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JRsLateInLifeMom wrote: »USA 🇺🇸 San Antonio Texas our bases received the first case to cruise ships even.
I know this because they announced it’s been 3 months a few days ago. I been in isolation over a month now left only 1x for food. Here’s our timeline started in November here. https://www.expressnews.com/news/local/article/Coronavirus-live-updates-A-timeline-of-COVID-19-15101570.php
It was contained to the base medical only until they oopsie let a lady out she went shopping 🛍 at the mall . Cleche sounding but true. Then the community cases were snowballing.
This says first case outside of the base was on Mar. 13. There is no mention of when it was at the base.2 -
T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »JRsLateInLifeMom wrote: »USA 🇺🇸 San Antonio Texas our bases received the first case to cruise ships even.
I know this because they announced it’s been 3 months a few days ago. I been in isolation over a month now left only 1x for food. Here’s our timeline started in November here. https://www.expressnews.com/news/local/article/Coronavirus-live-updates-A-timeline-of-COVID-19-15101570.php
It was contained to the base medical only until they oopsie let a lady out she went shopping 🛍 at the mall . Cleche sounding but true. Then the community cases were snowballing.
This says first case outside of the base was on Mar. 13. There is no mention of when it was at the base.
One of the links on there says that the first quarantined case with a positive test on the base was on Feb 12.
The one who went to the mall was released from base on Feb 29th.1 -
JRsLateInLifeMom wrote: »My town in ate as has had Covid for 3 months already so possible Very possible.
Are you confusing months and weeks? It hasn't even been three months since the first case in the U.S. on Jan. 19 (in Seattle).8 -
February 7th one of the many planes we have gotten landed full of them even a few were sick already. The bases started making changes around here before that even.
https://www.expressnews.com/news/local/article/Coronavirus-evacuees-expected-in-San-Antonio-on-15035839.php
Wuhan had it since November https://www.livescience.com/first-case-coronavirus-found.html
Some isn’t written we just seeing in with our own eyes y ears we didn’t even know what they were talking about yet as base members talked to each other passing us by in the stores.
Their thinking a few had it before that but was misdiagnosed deaths y illness1 -
nutmegoreo wrote: »T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »JRsLateInLifeMom wrote: »USA 🇺🇸 San Antonio Texas our bases received the first case to cruise ships even.
I know this because they announced it’s been 3 months a few days ago. I been in isolation over a month now left only 1x for food. Here’s our timeline started in November here. https://www.expressnews.com/news/local/article/Coronavirus-live-updates-A-timeline-of-COVID-19-15101570.php
It was contained to the base medical only until they oopsie let a lady out she went shopping 🛍 at the mall . Cleche sounding but true. Then the community cases were snowballing.
This says first case outside of the base was on Mar. 13. There is no mention of when it was at the base.
One of the links on there says that the first quarantined case with a positive test on the base was on Feb 12.
The one who went to the mall was released from base on Feb 29th.
OK, I didn't read the other article, then... but that is not even 2 months. @RsLateInLifeMom said 3 months. Not sure where that came from, but Feb. it was spreading quite a few places. Interestingly enough, Albany, GA had the 2nd highest infection rate per-capita in the U.S. at one time (1st was NYC) - maybe still does, but I haven't checked in a week or so. As @lemurcat2 pointed out, most of the areas with high infection rates are large cities with major transportation hubs and lots of people with close connections to China. Except Albany, GA does not fit that description. The reason Albany, GA had such a high infection rate is because someone visited on 2/29 for a funeral and spread it to several others who then spread it throughout the community in the first few weeks of March. By the time other people started showing symptoms, it was already spread everywhere.
Here's an article detailing it: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/30/us/coronavirus-funeral-albany-georgia.html?fbclid=IwAR0nxNvILgasGzzKiydK01UDvUSZgHHhU6fx4MSBZ661x7fxuu5vtJKpxOE
Here's a photo of me in Albany, GA taken on 3/7/20 while it was brewing:
In hindsight, it would have been wise to cancel that event. I admit I would have been rather upset if they had done that, but neither the RD nor I knew at that time what was happening.4 -
February 6th plane had 2 but we already had someone from Wuhan before them at the base when they were still just whispers no news reports yet or knowledge of the virus
I saw hazmat suits removing a family from an apartment into ambulances 🚑 on February 24th at an civilian apartment buildings isolated myself immediately baby too we were coming back from Chuckie Cheese . Never seen anything like it before.1
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