Coronavirus prep
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Three things never die. Cactus, Fruitcake and 'Rona.
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Diatonic12 wrote: »Three things never die. Cactus, Fruitcake and 'Rona.
That was the best thing I've read in ages! Thanks for the giggle.3 -
MikePfirrman wrote: »
Some in Tucson are whining up a storm about the mandatory mask requirements. Have to read up to see how restaurants and bars will handle that. I'm not sure if people realize we are the only country whining about masks. About masks. SMH. The popular Sheriff in our town (one of the ones, "I'm gonna live my life" guys) just tested positive for Covid-19. He was supposed to meet the President this weekend! I guess he got tested in advance and found out he had it! He's fairly young and healthy, so I wish him well. But to ignore it is ignorant.
I suspect the whiners firmly believe that the compliant mask-wearers are all "sheeple" anyway.
What I've noticed here (and we have very few active cases, all currently hospitalized) is that women have promptly turned mask wearing into a fashion statement and happily sport a fabric mask with a print that reflects a hobby or some aspect of their personality. Younger men seem to like to wear industrial style masks, I've even seen some very fancy respirator masks out there, obviously work PPE. Masks are mostly being worn by retail employees and people who are obviously higher risk. I'm happy to say that the 99.9% are being worn correctly. Although I did run into a former neighbour today at the pharmacy and he didn't have his nose covered.
Covid testing at work today. It's unpleasant having someone stick something in your nose, but it's quick and not painful. Probably took a second. All of us women agreed that we'd take the nasal swab over a Pap test any day.
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Diatonic12 wrote: »Three things never die. Cactus, Fruitcake and 'Rona.
I'm learning that about cactus. They are pretty amazing!1 -
MikePfirrman wrote: »
Some in Tucson are whining up a storm about the mandatory mask requirements. Have to read up to see how restaurants and bars will handle that. I'm not sure if people realize we are the only country whining about masks. About masks. SMH. The popular Sheriff in our town (one of the ones, "I'm gonna live my life" guys) just tested positive for Covid-19. He was supposed to meet the President this weekend! I guess he got tested in advance and found out he had it! He's fairly young and healthy, so I wish him well. But to ignore it is ignorant.
I suspect the whiners firmly believe that the compliant mask-wearers are all "sheeple" anyway.
What I've noticed here (and we have very few active cases, all currently hospitalized) is that women have promptly turned mask wearing into a fashion statement and happily sport a fabric mask with a print that reflects a hobby or some aspect of their personality. Younger men seem to like to wear industrial style masks, I've even seen some very fancy respirator masks out there, obviously work PPE. Masks are mostly being worn by retail employees and people who are obviously higher risk. I'm happy to say that the 99.9% are being worn correctly. Although I did run into a former neighbour today at the pharmacy and he didn't have his nose covered.
Covid testing at work today. It's unpleasant having someone stick something in your nose, but it's quick and not painful. Probably took a second. All of us women agreed that we'd take the nasal swab over a Pap test any day.
Hmmm... I find Pap tests no issue at all but the nasal swab I had was very unpleasant but thank goodness was quick. Still I'd do it again if needed. Mine was nothing to do with Covid. Still felt like she was swabbing my brain almost.6 -
MikePfirrman wrote: »
Some in Tucson are whining up a storm about the mandatory mask requirements. Have to read up to see how restaurants and bars will handle that. I'm not sure if people realize we are the only country whining about masks. About masks. SMH. The popular Sheriff in our town (one of the ones, "I'm gonna live my life" guys) just tested positive for Covid-19. He was supposed to meet the President this weekend! I guess he got tested in advance and found out he had it! He's fairly young and healthy, so I wish him well. But to ignore it is ignorant.
I suspect the whiners firmly believe that the compliant mask-wearers are all "sheeple" anyway.
What I've noticed here (and we have very few active cases, all currently hospitalized) is that women have promptly turned mask wearing into a fashion statement and happily sport a fabric mask with a print that reflects a hobby or some aspect of their personality. Younger men seem to like to wear industrial style masks, I've even seen some very fancy respirator masks out there, obviously work PPE. Masks are mostly being worn by retail employees and people who are obviously higher risk. I'm happy to say that the 99.9% are being worn correctly. Although I did run into a former neighbour today at the pharmacy and he didn't have his nose covered.
Covid testing at work today. It's unpleasant having someone stick something in your nose, but it's quick and not painful. Probably took a second. All of us women agreed that we'd take the nasal swab over a Pap test any day.
Yes, and I hear a lot of people talking about wearing a mask as though it exclusively is to protect the wearer and they are willing to take a risk. Too few people realize the mask is to protect others, not yourself.
Thankfully, the top manager at my work location is one of the few who takes it seriously and he sent an email to clarify for those in the office that are confused about when/where they should wear a mask. So I am hoping people at least start taking it seriously at work.9 -
rheddmobile wrote: »
Jeez Louise. I feel like they need to issue everyone with official 6’ long sticks - if I can reach you with my stick, I am legally allowed to hit you with my stick...Here's a fun story for you. This is by far the stupidest thing I've seen so far. I was at the store and this guy standing near me literally pulled his mask down to sneeze out into the open air and then pulled it back on. I guess he didn't want to breathe in his own sneeze and mess up his mask with sneeze juices. Thanks, buddy. 🤧 I navigated away from him ASAP, but I couldn't freaking believe it. And there was an elderly woman standing right in his sneeze zone.
Not only are more than half the people not wearing masks anymore, since the local leadership caved to the complainers and made masks optional but recommended, some of those who are wearing them are doing crap like that.
Opening things up wouldn't be so bad if people would behave themselves and follow recommended guidelines. Especially when we're living in a covid hot zone.
When we make things optional, like wearing masks in stores, people seem to choose poorly. It seems to be all or nothing with people. They are acting like it has to be a complete shut down OR completely open and throwing all caution to the wind. Why can't we open things up AND use precautions?
Bwahahhahahaha!
Issue the order - I'm ready for battle! My staff training may finally pay off...
I've seen video of myself doing staff training. Sadly, it did not look like that.
Some of the behavior in stores does have me thinking again about exploiting li'l ol' lady privilege to carry a (gratefully, so far) physically unnnecessary cane, so I have the option of whacking people with it at an extreme.
I was out again today at 3 stores (local health food grocery, Whole Foods, Costco), and again the experience varied some (in terms of number wearing masks) and how people behaved, as compared with other times. That mouth-only mask thing was more common today, for example.
Does anyone else find themselves getting more short-tempered? (I assume in my case it's from isolation, either unacknowledged stress, "cabin fever" or atrophy of social skills from exercising them less.) A woman behnd me in the exit line at Costco was very impatient - I'd almost swear she clicked at me at one point, like some form of indoor horn-honking. (I admit to being a li'l ol' lady, but more spry than doddering physically, truly.) At one point, behind me, she muttered "does she have to be so slow", either about the receipt-checker at the door, or the woman just finishing being checked, who was getting her stuff together. I admit, I turned around, looked her in the face, and raised an eyebrow at her (above my mask ) quite emphatically, though I did keep my mouth shut. This is really not like me. I rarely get irritated, and pretty much never broadcast it. (In my particular Scandinavian Midwestern subculture, a raised eyebrow is a very strong expression of emotion. ).
Oh, I'm bitchy in normal times, but last time I went to my closest grocery and some were just disregarding the posted rules (not masks, but the cart rules, and the arrows), I was muttering to myself about it. I realized I was being a freak and doing no good, but still. I decided just not to go there vs. becoming a nutjob.
Lately I've been going to my office with strict rules but few are there yet, so have been a bit on the non compliant side (doors are labeled exit and entrance but there aren't enough there yet for you to meet up with anyone).
I've found the one-way foot traffic in the stores to be the trickiest to adhere to.
They need bigger arrows. I'm constantly back-tracking because I forgot something or have to substitute, etc. That's when I notice I'm going the wrong way. Oops.
I feel like I have to go up and down every aisle, even ones I don't need anything in, because I don't want to deal with skipping to an aisle I do need something in, and finding myself at the wrong end of it.8 -
lynn_glenmont wrote: »rheddmobile wrote: »
Jeez Louise. I feel like they need to issue everyone with official 6’ long sticks - if I can reach you with my stick, I am legally allowed to hit you with my stick...Here's a fun story for you. This is by far the stupidest thing I've seen so far. I was at the store and this guy standing near me literally pulled his mask down to sneeze out into the open air and then pulled it back on. I guess he didn't want to breathe in his own sneeze and mess up his mask with sneeze juices. Thanks, buddy. 🤧 I navigated away from him ASAP, but I couldn't freaking believe it. And there was an elderly woman standing right in his sneeze zone.
Not only are more than half the people not wearing masks anymore, since the local leadership caved to the complainers and made masks optional but recommended, some of those who are wearing them are doing crap like that.
Opening things up wouldn't be so bad if people would behave themselves and follow recommended guidelines. Especially when we're living in a covid hot zone.
When we make things optional, like wearing masks in stores, people seem to choose poorly. It seems to be all or nothing with people. They are acting like it has to be a complete shut down OR completely open and throwing all caution to the wind. Why can't we open things up AND use precautions?
Bwahahhahahaha!
Issue the order - I'm ready for battle! My staff training may finally pay off...
I've seen video of myself doing staff training. Sadly, it did not look like that.
Some of the behavior in stores does have me thinking again about exploiting li'l ol' lady privilege to carry a (gratefully, so far) physically unnnecessary cane, so I have the option of whacking people with it at an extreme.
I was out again today at 3 stores (local health food grocery, Whole Foods, Costco), and again the experience varied some (in terms of number wearing masks) and how people behaved, as compared with other times. That mouth-only mask thing was more common today, for example.
Does anyone else find themselves getting more short-tempered? (I assume in my case it's from isolation, either unacknowledged stress, "cabin fever" or atrophy of social skills from exercising them less.) A woman behnd me in the exit line at Costco was very impatient - I'd almost swear she clicked at me at one point, like some form of indoor horn-honking. (I admit to being a li'l ol' lady, but more spry than doddering physically, truly.) At one point, behind me, she muttered "does she have to be so slow", either about the receipt-checker at the door, or the woman just finishing being checked, who was getting her stuff together. I admit, I turned around, looked her in the face, and raised an eyebrow at her (above my mask ) quite emphatically, though I did keep my mouth shut. This is really not like me. I rarely get irritated, and pretty much never broadcast it. (In my particular Scandinavian Midwestern subculture, a raised eyebrow is a very strong expression of emotion. ).
Oh, I'm bitchy in normal times, but last time I went to my closest grocery and some were just disregarding the posted rules (not masks, but the cart rules, and the arrows), I was muttering to myself about it. I realized I was being a freak and doing no good, but still. I decided just not to go there vs. becoming a nutjob.
Lately I've been going to my office with strict rules but few are there yet, so have been a bit on the non compliant side (doors are labeled exit and entrance but there aren't enough there yet for you to meet up with anyone).
I've found the one-way foot traffic in the stores to be the trickiest to adhere to. They need bigger arrows. I'm constantly back-tracking because I forgot something or have to substitute, etc. That's when I notice I'm going the wrong way. Oops.
I feel like I have to go up and down every aisle, even ones I don't need anything in, because I don't want to deal with skipping to an aisle I do need something in, and finding myself at the wrong end of it.
I kept passing an isle, looking down and seeing something I need, then having to go forward to the next isle and double back (or back up, to the isle before), it sure did create a lot of extra steps.7 -
ExistingFish wrote: »lynn_glenmont wrote: »rheddmobile wrote: »
Jeez Louise. I feel like they need to issue everyone with official 6’ long sticks - if I can reach you with my stick, I am legally allowed to hit you with my stick...Here's a fun story for you. This is by far the stupidest thing I've seen so far. I was at the store and this guy standing near me literally pulled his mask down to sneeze out into the open air and then pulled it back on. I guess he didn't want to breathe in his own sneeze and mess up his mask with sneeze juices. Thanks, buddy. 🤧 I navigated away from him ASAP, but I couldn't freaking believe it. And there was an elderly woman standing right in his sneeze zone.
Not only are more than half the people not wearing masks anymore, since the local leadership caved to the complainers and made masks optional but recommended, some of those who are wearing them are doing crap like that.
Opening things up wouldn't be so bad if people would behave themselves and follow recommended guidelines. Especially when we're living in a covid hot zone.
When we make things optional, like wearing masks in stores, people seem to choose poorly. It seems to be all or nothing with people. They are acting like it has to be a complete shut down OR completely open and throwing all caution to the wind. Why can't we open things up AND use precautions?
Bwahahhahahaha!
Issue the order - I'm ready for battle! My staff training may finally pay off...
I've seen video of myself doing staff training. Sadly, it did not look like that.
Some of the behavior in stores does have me thinking again about exploiting li'l ol' lady privilege to carry a (gratefully, so far) physically unnnecessary cane, so I have the option of whacking people with it at an extreme.
I was out again today at 3 stores (local health food grocery, Whole Foods, Costco), and again the experience varied some (in terms of number wearing masks) and how people behaved, as compared with other times. That mouth-only mask thing was more common today, for example.
Does anyone else find themselves getting more short-tempered? (I assume in my case it's from isolation, either unacknowledged stress, "cabin fever" or atrophy of social skills from exercising them less.) A woman behnd me in the exit line at Costco was very impatient - I'd almost swear she clicked at me at one point, like some form of indoor horn-honking. (I admit to being a li'l ol' lady, but more spry than doddering physically, truly.) At one point, behind me, she muttered "does she have to be so slow", either about the receipt-checker at the door, or the woman just finishing being checked, who was getting her stuff together. I admit, I turned around, looked her in the face, and raised an eyebrow at her (above my mask ) quite emphatically, though I did keep my mouth shut. This is really not like me. I rarely get irritated, and pretty much never broadcast it. (In my particular Scandinavian Midwestern subculture, a raised eyebrow is a very strong expression of emotion. ).
Oh, I'm bitchy in normal times, but last time I went to my closest grocery and some were just disregarding the posted rules (not masks, but the cart rules, and the arrows), I was muttering to myself about it. I realized I was being a freak and doing no good, but still. I decided just not to go there vs. becoming a nutjob.
Lately I've been going to my office with strict rules but few are there yet, so have been a bit on the non compliant side (doors are labeled exit and entrance but there aren't enough there yet for you to meet up with anyone).
I've found the one-way foot traffic in the stores to be the trickiest to adhere to. They need bigger arrows. I'm constantly back-tracking because I forgot something or have to substitute, etc. That's when I notice I'm going the wrong way. Oops.
I feel like I have to go up and down every aisle, even ones I don't need anything in, because I don't want to deal with skipping to an aisle I do need something in, and finding myself at the wrong end of it.
I kept passing an isle, looking down and seeing something I need, then having to go forward to the next isle and double back (or back up, to the isle before), it sure did create a lot of extra steps.
I feel like I should link this comment to the "NEAT Improvement Strategies to Improve Weight Loss" thread: Burning extra calories via confusing arrow-triggered backtracks while grocery shopping. 21 -
ExistingFish wrote: »lynn_glenmont wrote: »rheddmobile wrote: »
Jeez Louise. I feel like they need to issue everyone with official 6’ long sticks - if I can reach you with my stick, I am legally allowed to hit you with my stick...Here's a fun story for you. This is by far the stupidest thing I've seen so far. I was at the store and this guy standing near me literally pulled his mask down to sneeze out into the open air and then pulled it back on. I guess he didn't want to breathe in his own sneeze and mess up his mask with sneeze juices. Thanks, buddy. 🤧 I navigated away from him ASAP, but I couldn't freaking believe it. And there was an elderly woman standing right in his sneeze zone.
Not only are more than half the people not wearing masks anymore, since the local leadership caved to the complainers and made masks optional but recommended, some of those who are wearing them are doing crap like that.
Opening things up wouldn't be so bad if people would behave themselves and follow recommended guidelines. Especially when we're living in a covid hot zone.
When we make things optional, like wearing masks in stores, people seem to choose poorly. It seems to be all or nothing with people. They are acting like it has to be a complete shut down OR completely open and throwing all caution to the wind. Why can't we open things up AND use precautions?
Bwahahhahahaha!
Issue the order - I'm ready for battle! My staff training may finally pay off...
I've seen video of myself doing staff training. Sadly, it did not look like that.
Some of the behavior in stores does have me thinking again about exploiting li'l ol' lady privilege to carry a (gratefully, so far) physically unnnecessary cane, so I have the option of whacking people with it at an extreme.
I was out again today at 3 stores (local health food grocery, Whole Foods, Costco), and again the experience varied some (in terms of number wearing masks) and how people behaved, as compared with other times. That mouth-only mask thing was more common today, for example.
Does anyone else find themselves getting more short-tempered? (I assume in my case it's from isolation, either unacknowledged stress, "cabin fever" or atrophy of social skills from exercising them less.) A woman behnd me in the exit line at Costco was very impatient - I'd almost swear she clicked at me at one point, like some form of indoor horn-honking. (I admit to being a li'l ol' lady, but more spry than doddering physically, truly.) At one point, behind me, she muttered "does she have to be so slow", either about the receipt-checker at the door, or the woman just finishing being checked, who was getting her stuff together. I admit, I turned around, looked her in the face, and raised an eyebrow at her (above my mask ) quite emphatically, though I did keep my mouth shut. This is really not like me. I rarely get irritated, and pretty much never broadcast it. (In my particular Scandinavian Midwestern subculture, a raised eyebrow is a very strong expression of emotion. ).
Oh, I'm bitchy in normal times, but last time I went to my closest grocery and some were just disregarding the posted rules (not masks, but the cart rules, and the arrows), I was muttering to myself about it. I realized I was being a freak and doing no good, but still. I decided just not to go there vs. becoming a nutjob.
Lately I've been going to my office with strict rules but few are there yet, so have been a bit on the non compliant side (doors are labeled exit and entrance but there aren't enough there yet for you to meet up with anyone).
I've found the one-way foot traffic in the stores to be the trickiest to adhere to. They need bigger arrows. I'm constantly back-tracking because I forgot something or have to substitute, etc. That's when I notice I'm going the wrong way. Oops.
I feel like I have to go up and down every aisle, even ones I don't need anything in, because I don't want to deal with skipping to an aisle I do need something in, and finding myself at the wrong end of it.
I kept passing an isle, looking down and seeing something I need, then having to go forward to the next isle and double back (or back up, to the isle before), it sure did create a lot of extra steps.
I feel like I should link this comment to the "NEAT Improvement Strategies to Improve Weight Loss" thread: Burning extra calories via confusing arrow-triggered backtracks while grocery shopping.
LOL yeah, but it also means I spend more time in the store around other people, and those extra steps cause me to walk past more people, where if I just walked where I needed, I might not pass those people. So, does it really cut down risk? Or make it riskier?4 -
"LOL yeah, but it also means I spend more time in the store around other people, and those extra steps cause me to walk past more people, where if I just walked where I needed, I might not pass those people. So, does it really cut down risk? Or make it riskier?"
Write a list and stick to it is safest. Get in and out as fast as possible. We have almost zero active cases here and I still am doing that for now.
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I was in the store yesterday and noticed they have new signage for one way traffic, yay!! Much more visible because it's on the shelves where you're looking anyways and much bigger than the little arrows they had before. It seems like those floor arrows either were not even there(like they ran out of them halfway through) or all scuffed and nearly invisible. 3
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@MikePfirrman - thank you for the update on your fire situation. I've been thinking about you, and I'm glad to hear that it shouldn't get much closer to you guys.Diatonic12 wrote: »Three things never die. Cactus, Fruitcake and 'Rona.
LOL!
So, I'm home self-quarantining. I have what I strongly suspect to be an ear infection. Tried to get an appointment to have my ear checked and ended up with a tele-appointment where the doc told me I could have anything from vertigo to heart disease.
When I asked if I could just have an appointment so she could check my ear, she told me (more alluded than a direct statement) that I had to test negative for COVID before I'd be allowed in the office. 
So yesterday I got tested, and now I wait for the negative test. I'm hoping by the time the test comes back the ear infection resolves itself. But in the meantime I get to stay home and sleep, and I'm okay with that. HOWEVER, my faith in tele-medicine has totally tanked. I think the doc was googling my symptoms while we talked... (kidding. Sorta). 21 -
"LOL yeah, but it also means I spend more time in the store around other people, and those extra steps cause me to walk past more people, where if I just walked where I needed, I might not pass those people. So, does it really cut down risk? Or make it riskier?"
Write a list and stick to it is safest. Get in and out as fast as possible. We have almost zero active cases here and I still am doing that for now.
We have low cases in our county too.
We try to make a list. I was having trouble making a list this time because I'm on a special diet for 7-10 days and I literally had to shop for stuff to find stuff I could eat.
Whether or not you have a list, you might not realize something on your list is down an aisle until you pass it. I guess if you went up and down ever aisle so you didn't miss one, but that seems kind of excessive too.6 -
I have not seen any arrows at stores. Like others, I am concerned that would send me to areas of the store I wouldn't otherwise visit. As a carnivore, I don't visit most aisles anyway. I go to the meat section (usually in the back of stores) and often the frozen meat section (some have it in the back or side and other stores have it in frozen aisles). The only aisles (aside from frozen) I need to visit usually are for non-groceries... cat food, cleaning supplies. No need to go down every single aisle.2
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JustSomeEm wrote: »@MikePfirrman - thank you for the update on your fire situation. I've been thinking about you, and I'm glad to hear that it shouldn't get much closer to you guys.Diatonic12 wrote: »Three things never die. Cactus, Fruitcake and 'Rona.
LOL!
So, I'm home self-quarantining. I have what I strongly suspect to be an ear infection. Tried to get an appointment to have my ear checked and ended up with a tele-appointment where the doc told me I could have anything from vertigo to heart disease. When I asked if I could just have an appointment so she could check my ear, she told me (more alluded than a direct statement) that I had to test negative for COVID before I'd be allowed in the office. So yesterday I got tested, and now I wait for the negative test. I'm hoping by the time the test comes back the ear infection resolves itself. But in the meantime I get to stay home and sleep, and I'm okay with that. HOWEVER, my faith in tele-medicine has totally tanked. I think the doc was googling my symptoms while we talked... (kidding. Sorta).
Fortunately you are able to get tested... I still am unaware of any way in my area to get tested unless showing "severe symptoms." (According to the county health dept., even people with mild symptoms don't get tested.)
I went to the urgent care in May (I moved a year ago and never setup a new PCP here). They had people scan temps in car when you enter the parking lot, but that was it. Like you hope in your case, the tests took so long that my symptoms resolved themselves anyway. And the results were not even very certain anyway, so not sure how the dr. would have treated it if I still was experiencing issues.6 -
And to make it more fun my local grocery decided to replace all their aging shelves the past couple of weeks. And although they SORT of put things back in the same aisles, they half moved things around to different aisles and half relocated things in the same aisle. It definitely makes my trips a lot longer now because I have to search for the products I used to be able to find with my eyes closed.10
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SummerSkier wrote: »And to make it more fun my local grocery decided to replace all their aging shelves the past couple of weeks. And although they SORT of put things back in the same aisles, they half moved things around to different aisles and half relocated things in the same aisle. It definitely makes my trips a lot longer now because I have to search for the products I used to be able to find with my eyes closed.
I get so angry at Costco when they decide to randomly move an item into a aisle display in a different part of the store. My Costco trips are surgical strikes...I have my list and know exactly where to find each item so that I spend minimal time in the store. I've always done that, even in the before-times, because that store gives me anxiety.
I know why they do it...one, they want to feature an item by putting it on display out in the aisle, and two, they want people like me to have to search around for an item and visit parts of the store that I would normally bypass. This is not nice to do to people in a pandemic.
Also, I heard that Costco is bringing back samples in some stores. Reaaaaly? Do we need people congregating around a sample lady? Not safe for the customers or the sample person.12 -
Interesting news here in Italy. It appears the Corona virus was in Northern Italy in Dec. Analyzing waste water found the virus present at that time. This is for Milan and Turin (Torino).14
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SummerSkier wrote: »And to make it more fun my local grocery decided to replace all their aging shelves the past couple of weeks. And although they SORT of put things back in the same aisles, they half moved things around to different aisles and half relocated things in the same aisle. It definitely makes my trips a lot longer now because I have to search for the products I used to be able to find with my eyes closed.
My main Walmart started a remodel before covid and finished at the beginning. I still can't find stuff. The bread and coffee used to be at the front, now they are 2/3 the way back!
This may be why I was having to "look" for stuff, come to think of it. I was in that store.0 -
I hate the layout of the one way arrows in my local Walmart. If they would alternate every isle, I think I could handle it better, but instead, they randomly have 2 in a row going the same way (ex. the 2 "dog" isles - they're right next to each other, but go the same way). The worst was the section where the shampoo, etc. is located. There are 5 (yes, five) isles in a row that go the same way. Extremely frustrating. Especially when it seems no one cares or is following them anymore. I live in a small town, so there are few choices on where to shop unless you want to drive a bit.8
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I hate the layout of the one way arrows in my local Walmart. If they would alternate every isle, I think I could handle it better, but instead, they randomly have 2 in a row going the same way (ex. the 2 "dog" isles - they're right next to each other, but go the same way). The worst was the section where the shampoo, etc. is located. There are 5 (yes, five) isles in a row that go the same way. Extremely frustrating. Especially when it seems no one cares or is following them anymore. I live in a small town, so there are few choices on where to shop unless you want to drive a bit.
This amuses me a little. At my Walmart, I had to go down one aisle and turn around - right where people were waiting in line to drop off prescriptions. So they were standing 6' back, only for me to have to loop around them to enter the aisle at the correct direction. Not well thought out.
I didn't see any double rows though, mine seem to all go back and forth.1 -
ExistingFish wrote: »I hate the layout of the one way arrows in my local Walmart. If they would alternate every isle, I think I could handle it better, but instead, they randomly have 2 in a row going the same way (ex. the 2 "dog" isles - they're right next to each other, but go the same way). The worst was the section where the shampoo, etc. is located. There are 5 (yes, five) isles in a row that go the same way. Extremely frustrating. Especially when it seems no one cares or is following them anymore. I live in a small town, so there are few choices on where to shop unless you want to drive a bit.
This amuses me a little. At my Walmart, I had to go down one aisle and turn around - right where people were waiting in line to drop off prescriptions. So they were standing 6' back, only for me to have to loop around them to enter the aisle at the correct direction. Not well thought out.
I didn't see any double rows though, mine seem to all go back and forth.
It seems crazy to me! It also happens in the grocery isles - there are 5 or 6 that alternate correctly, then 2 in a row going the same way, then alternating then another 2 going the same way. It's no wonder folks aren't following them anymore (mostly)!3 -
rheddmobile wrote: »
Jeez Louise. I feel like they need to issue everyone with official 6’ long sticks - if I can reach you with my stick, I am legally allowed to hit you with my stick...Here's a fun story for you. This is by far the stupidest thing I've seen so far. I was at the store and this guy standing near me literally pulled his mask down to sneeze out into the open air and then pulled it back on. I guess he didn't want to breathe in his own sneeze and mess up his mask with sneeze juices. Thanks, buddy. 🤧 I navigated away from him ASAP, but I couldn't freaking believe it. And there was an elderly woman standing right in his sneeze zone.
Not only are more than half the people not wearing masks anymore, since the local leadership caved to the complainers and made masks optional but recommended, some of those who are wearing them are doing crap like that.
Opening things up wouldn't be so bad if people would behave themselves and follow recommended guidelines. Especially when we're living in a covid hot zone.
When we make things optional, like wearing masks in stores, people seem to choose poorly. It seems to be all or nothing with people. They are acting like it has to be a complete shut down OR completely open and throwing all caution to the wind. Why can't we open things up AND use precautions?
Bwahahhahahaha!
Issue the order - I'm ready for battle! My staff training may finally pay off...
I've seen video of myself doing staff training. Sadly, it did not look like that.
Some of the behavior in stores does have me thinking again about exploiting li'l ol' lady privilege to carry a (gratefully, so far) physically unnnecessary cane, so I have the option of whacking people with it at an extreme.
I was out again today at 3 stores (local health food grocery, Whole Foods, Costco), and again the experience varied some (in terms of number wearing masks) and how people behaved, as compared with other times. That mouth-only mask thing was more common today, for example.
Does anyone else find themselves getting more short-tempered? (I assume in my case it's from isolation, either unacknowledged stress, "cabin fever" or atrophy of social skills from exercising them less.) A woman behnd me in the exit line at Costco was very impatient - I'd almost swear she clicked at me at one point, like some form of indoor horn-honking. (I admit to being a li'l ol' lady, but more spry than doddering physically, truly.) At one point, behind me, she muttered "does she have to be so slow", either about the receipt-checker at the door, or the woman just finishing being checked, who was getting her stuff together. I admit, I turned around, looked her in the face, and raised an eyebrow at her (above my mask ) quite emphatically, though I did keep my mouth shut. This is really not like me. I rarely get irritated, and pretty much never broadcast it. (In my particular Scandinavian Midwestern subculture, a raised eyebrow is a very strong expression of emotion. ).
Oh, I'm bitchy in normal times, but last time I went to my closest grocery and some were just disregarding the posted rules (not masks, but the cart rules, and the arrows), I was muttering to myself about it. I realized I was being a freak and doing no good, but still. I decided just not to go there vs. becoming a nutjob.
Lately I've been going to my office with strict rules but few are there yet, so have been a bit on the non compliant side (doors are labeled exit and entrance but there aren't enough there yet for you to meet up with anyone).
I've found the one-way foot traffic in the stores to be the trickiest to adhere to. They need bigger arrows. I'm constantly back-tracking because I forgot something or have to substitute, etc. That's when I notice I'm going the wrong way. Oops.
It wasn't backtracking that bugged me -- I totally get that -- but people just blatantly ignoring the arrows and going into the aisles the wrong way.1 -
T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »MikePfirrman wrote: »
Some in Tucson are whining up a storm about the mandatory mask requirements. Have to read up to see how restaurants and bars will handle that. I'm not sure if people realize we are the only country whining about masks. About masks. SMH. The popular Sheriff in our town (one of the ones, "I'm gonna live my life" guys) just tested positive for Covid-19. He was supposed to meet the President this weekend! I guess he got tested in advance and found out he had it! He's fairly young and healthy, so I wish him well. But to ignore it is ignorant.
I suspect the whiners firmly believe that the compliant mask-wearers are all "sheeple" anyway.
What I've noticed here (and we have very few active cases, all currently hospitalized) is that women have promptly turned mask wearing into a fashion statement and happily sport a fabric mask with a print that reflects a hobby or some aspect of their personality. Younger men seem to like to wear industrial style masks, I've even seen some very fancy respirator masks out there, obviously work PPE. Masks are mostly being worn by retail employees and people who are obviously higher risk. I'm happy to say that the 99.9% are being worn correctly. Although I did run into a former neighbour today at the pharmacy and he didn't have his nose covered.
Covid testing at work today. It's unpleasant having someone stick something in your nose, but it's quick and not painful. Probably took a second. All of us women agreed that we'd take the nasal swab over a Pap test any day.
Yes, and I hear a lot of people talking about wearing a mask as though it exclusively is to protect the wearer and they are willing to take a risk. Too few people realize the mask is to protect others, not yourself.
Thankfully, the top manager at my work location is one of the few who takes it seriously and he sent an email to clarify for those in the office that are confused about when/where they should wear a mask. So I am hoping people at least start taking it seriously at work.
Gov Lee had a press conference yesterday encouraging mask use. They have gotten companies to make TN-themed and branded masks (college sports, Tractor Supply, Jack Daniels, and etc) to "make masks cool." Dr. Piercey (Dept of Health) said "Wearing a mask is NOT a political statement." She went on to explain how instead it was showing how we are taking care of all Tennesseans. Of course they also basically said that their goal has always been to keep the curve flat enough for hospitals to be fine, so they really don't care that the cases are going up at all right now. Ok, then... But they need to play that clip about the masks on the local news. Over and over. We do have a long way to go, but at least this development is encouraging, even though it is not enough.
When did we go from being the "Volunteer State" to the "Defiant Toddler State"?
I get glared down big time for wearing a mask here. But being 5'10" with broad-shoulders and Resting Witch Brows, I don't worry about it overmuch. I am protecting EVERYONE. I am showing people what STAYING OPEN in a pandemic looks like. It's hard for 6 people( my family) plus the other 10% of the county that are actually wearing masks to drag 60,000 people (whining and pontificating FREEDOM) where they don't want to go though. It is ridiculously difficult to get people to realize that if we don't social distance and wear masks in public we WILL be forced to close down again. You want to shop and work? YAY! Do that. Freedom! But there are new rules for a little while so that stays possible. Why? Very very contagious, possibly debilitating or deadly, virus! People, come on!
This all just makes me so discouraged and mentally tired.
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When I see someone wearing a mask (properly) it tells me that they care about other people.18
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T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »JustSomeEm wrote: »@MikePfirrman - thank you for the update on your fire situation. I've been thinking about you, and I'm glad to hear that it shouldn't get much closer to you guys.Diatonic12 wrote: »Three things never die. Cactus, Fruitcake and 'Rona.
LOL!
So, I'm home self-quarantining. I have what I strongly suspect to be an ear infection. Tried to get an appointment to have my ear checked and ended up with a tele-appointment where the doc told me I could have anything from vertigo to heart disease. When I asked if I could just have an appointment so she could check my ear, she told me (more alluded than a direct statement) that I had to test negative for COVID before I'd be allowed in the office. So yesterday I got tested, and now I wait for the negative test. I'm hoping by the time the test comes back the ear infection resolves itself. But in the meantime I get to stay home and sleep, and I'm okay with that. HOWEVER, my faith in tele-medicine has totally tanked. I think the doc was googling my symptoms while we talked... (kidding. Sorta).
Fortunately you are able to get tested... I still am unaware of any way in my area to get tested unless showing "severe symptoms." (According to the county health dept., even people with mild symptoms don't get tested.)
I went to the urgent care in May (I moved a year ago and never setup a new PCP here). They had people scan temps in car when you enter the parking lot, but that was it. Like you hope in your case, the tests took so long that my symptoms resolved themselves anyway. And the results were not even very certain anyway, so not sure how the dr. would have treated it if I still was experiencing issues.
See, we're "supposed to" be able to go to the Health Dept. And "anyone who thinks they need to test can get a test." As long as you go in the 2-hr window they are actually testing that day. How that translates into reality...well dubious isn't a strong enough word.4 -
baconslave wrote: »T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »JustSomeEm wrote: »@MikePfirrman - thank you for the update on your fire situation. I've been thinking about you, and I'm glad to hear that it shouldn't get much closer to you guys.Diatonic12 wrote: »Three things never die. Cactus, Fruitcake and 'Rona.
LOL!
So, I'm home self-quarantining. I have what I strongly suspect to be an ear infection. Tried to get an appointment to have my ear checked and ended up with a tele-appointment where the doc told me I could have anything from vertigo to heart disease. When I asked if I could just have an appointment so she could check my ear, she told me (more alluded than a direct statement) that I had to test negative for COVID before I'd be allowed in the office. So yesterday I got tested, and now I wait for the negative test. I'm hoping by the time the test comes back the ear infection resolves itself. But in the meantime I get to stay home and sleep, and I'm okay with that. HOWEVER, my faith in tele-medicine has totally tanked. I think the doc was googling my symptoms while we talked... (kidding. Sorta).
Fortunately you are able to get tested... I still am unaware of any way in my area to get tested unless showing "severe symptoms." (According to the county health dept., even people with mild symptoms don't get tested.)
I went to the urgent care in May (I moved a year ago and never setup a new PCP here). They had people scan temps in car when you enter the parking lot, but that was it. Like you hope in your case, the tests took so long that my symptoms resolved themselves anyway. And the results were not even very certain anyway, so not sure how the dr. would have treated it if I still was experiencing issues.
See, we're "supposed to" be able to go to the Health Dept. And "anyone who thinks they need to test can get a test." As long as you go in the 2-hr window they are actually testing that day. How that translates into reality...well dubious isn't a strong enough word.
@baconslave Not sure where you are at, but I am in west TN near the MO border and nobody here is wearing masks or taking this seriously except at work where fortunately we have a manager that cares.4 -
baconslave wrote: »T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »MikePfirrman wrote: »
Some in Tucson are whining up a storm about the mandatory mask requirements. Have to read up to see how restaurants and bars will handle that. I'm not sure if people realize we are the only country whining about masks. About masks. SMH. The popular Sheriff in our town (one of the ones, "I'm gonna live my life" guys) just tested positive for Covid-19. He was supposed to meet the President this weekend! I guess he got tested in advance and found out he had it! He's fairly young and healthy, so I wish him well. But to ignore it is ignorant.
I suspect the whiners firmly believe that the compliant mask-wearers are all "sheeple" anyway.
What I've noticed here (and we have very few active cases, all currently hospitalized) is that women have promptly turned mask wearing into a fashion statement and happily sport a fabric mask with a print that reflects a hobby or some aspect of their personality. Younger men seem to like to wear industrial style masks, I've even seen some very fancy respirator masks out there, obviously work PPE. Masks are mostly being worn by retail employees and people who are obviously higher risk. I'm happy to say that the 99.9% are being worn correctly. Although I did run into a former neighbour today at the pharmacy and he didn't have his nose covered.
Covid testing at work today. It's unpleasant having someone stick something in your nose, but it's quick and not painful. Probably took a second. All of us women agreed that we'd take the nasal swab over a Pap test any day.
Yes, and I hear a lot of people talking about wearing a mask as though it exclusively is to protect the wearer and they are willing to take a risk. Too few people realize the mask is to protect others, not yourself.
Thankfully, the top manager at my work location is one of the few who takes it seriously and he sent an email to clarify for those in the office that are confused about when/where they should wear a mask. So I am hoping people at least start taking it seriously at work.
Gov Lee had a press conference yesterday encouraging mask use. They have gotten companies to make TN-themed and branded masks (college sports, Tractor Supply, Jack Daniels, and etc) to "make masks cool." Dr. Piercey (Dept of Health) said "Wearing a mask is NOT a political statement." She went on to explain how instead it was showing how we are taking care of all Tennesseans. Of course they also basically said that their goal has always been to keep the curve flat enough for hospitals to be fine, so they really don't care that the cases are going up at all right now. Ok, then... But they need to play that clip about the masks on the local news. Over and over. We do have a long way to go, but at least this development is encouraging, even though it is not enough.
When did we go from being the "Volunteer State" to the "Defiant Toddler State"?
I get glared down big time for wearing a mask here. But being 5'10" with broad-shoulders and Resting Witch Brows, I don't worry about it overmuch. I am protecting EVERYONE. I am showing people what STAYING OPEN in a pandemic looks like. It's hard for 6 people( my family) plus the other 10% of the county that are actually wearing masks to drag 60,000 people (whining and pontificating FREEDOM) where they don't want to go though. It is ridiculously difficult to get people to realize that if we don't social distance and wear masks in public we WILL be forced to close down again. You want to shop and work? YAY! Do that. Freedom! But there are new rules for a little while so that stays possible. Why? Very very contagious, possibly debilitating or deadly, virus! People, come on!
This all just makes me so discouraged and mentally tired.
I hear you. I’m in the Memphis suburbs and mask use is spotty. Maybe 50%? Maybe more, depending on location. This is before mask ordinance, haven’t been out much since, except to dr/pt and church. 100% use at dr & temp check and mask usage at PT. Church (spaced seating) is maybe 90%—I def give the side eye to non mask wearers—some in their 20s, some older. I sewed masks for my entire family and it can be a battle to keep a 4yo boy properly masked...why can’t you, a grown adult, wear one?? Especially since 50%+ of the people at church are elderly (bishop extended the dispensation of one’s Sunday obligation until September, so people, esp the vulnerable, can stay home with no moral qualms. Attendance is increasing, at least at my church.)
Many things are returning to almost normal. Despite not moving to Phase 3 yet our town baseball league is resuming games tonight (soccer, however, canceled plans for a summer league, but multiple programs are running indoor and outdoor summer camps). Some MDOs have been back in session for a few weeks. I am now the crazy one for pushing masks and being a bit more cautious.4 -
ExistingFish wrote: »"LOL yeah, but it also means I spend more time in the store around other people, and those extra steps cause me to walk past more people, where if I just walked where I needed, I might not pass those people. So, does it really cut down risk? Or make it riskier?"
Write a list and stick to it is safest. Get in and out as fast as possible. We have almost zero active cases here and I still am doing that for now.
We have low cases in our county too.
We try to make a list. I was having trouble making a list this time because I'm on a special diet for 7-10 days and I literally had to shop for stuff to find stuff I could eat.
Whether or not you have a list, you might not realize something on your list is down an aisle until you pass it. I guess if you went up and down ever aisle so you didn't miss one, but that seems kind of excessive too.
I'm totally incapable of doing this myself, but my mom used to put her grocery list in order by aisle, routinely. (She could remember what was where in her customary store, so it wasn't a huge effort; and she was Just. That. Organized. I didn't get that gene.)ExistingFish wrote: »ExistingFish wrote: »lynn_glenmont wrote: »rheddmobile wrote: »
Jeez Louise. I feel like they need to issue everyone with official 6’ long sticks - if I can reach you with my stick, I am legally allowed to hit you with my stick...Here's a fun story for you. This is by far the stupidest thing I've seen so far. I was at the store and this guy standing near me literally pulled his mask down to sneeze out into the open air and then pulled it back on. I guess he didn't want to breathe in his own sneeze and mess up his mask with sneeze juices. Thanks, buddy. 🤧 I navigated away from him ASAP, but I couldn't freaking believe it. And there was an elderly woman standing right in his sneeze zone.
Not only are more than half the people not wearing masks anymore, since the local leadership caved to the complainers and made masks optional but recommended, some of those who are wearing them are doing crap like that.
Opening things up wouldn't be so bad if people would behave themselves and follow recommended guidelines. Especially when we're living in a covid hot zone.
When we make things optional, like wearing masks in stores, people seem to choose poorly. It seems to be all or nothing with people. They are acting like it has to be a complete shut down OR completely open and throwing all caution to the wind. Why can't we open things up AND use precautions?
Bwahahhahahaha!
Issue the order - I'm ready for battle! My staff training may finally pay off...
I've seen video of myself doing staff training. Sadly, it did not look like that.
Some of the behavior in stores does have me thinking again about exploiting li'l ol' lady privilege to carry a (gratefully, so far) physically unnnecessary cane, so I have the option of whacking people with it at an extreme.
I was out again today at 3 stores (local health food grocery, Whole Foods, Costco), and again the experience varied some (in terms of number wearing masks) and how people behaved, as compared with other times. That mouth-only mask thing was more common today, for example.
Does anyone else find themselves getting more short-tempered? (I assume in my case it's from isolation, either unacknowledged stress, "cabin fever" or atrophy of social skills from exercising them less.) A woman behnd me in the exit line at Costco was very impatient - I'd almost swear she clicked at me at one point, like some form of indoor horn-honking. (I admit to being a li'l ol' lady, but more spry than doddering physically, truly.) At one point, behind me, she muttered "does she have to be so slow", either about the receipt-checker at the door, or the woman just finishing being checked, who was getting her stuff together. I admit, I turned around, looked her in the face, and raised an eyebrow at her (above my mask ) quite emphatically, though I did keep my mouth shut. This is really not like me. I rarely get irritated, and pretty much never broadcast it. (In my particular Scandinavian Midwestern subculture, a raised eyebrow is a very strong expression of emotion. ).
Oh, I'm bitchy in normal times, but last time I went to my closest grocery and some were just disregarding the posted rules (not masks, but the cart rules, and the arrows), I was muttering to myself about it. I realized I was being a freak and doing no good, but still. I decided just not to go there vs. becoming a nutjob.
Lately I've been going to my office with strict rules but few are there yet, so have been a bit on the non compliant side (doors are labeled exit and entrance but there aren't enough there yet for you to meet up with anyone).
I've found the one-way foot traffic in the stores to be the trickiest to adhere to. They need bigger arrows. I'm constantly back-tracking because I forgot something or have to substitute, etc. That's when I notice I'm going the wrong way. Oops.
I feel like I have to go up and down every aisle, even ones I don't need anything in, because I don't want to deal with skipping to an aisle I do need something in, and finding myself at the wrong end of it.
I kept passing an isle, looking down and seeing something I need, then having to go forward to the next isle and double back (or back up, to the isle before), it sure did create a lot of extra steps.
I feel like I should link this comment to the "NEAT Improvement Strategies to Improve Weight Loss" thread: Burning extra calories via confusing arrow-triggered backtracks while grocery shopping.
LOL yeah, but it also means I spend more time in the store around other people, and those extra steps cause me to walk past more people, where if I just walked where I needed, I might not pass those people. So, does it really cut down risk? Or make it riskier?
Oh, absolutely. It was a joke, just that we're on a calorie counting site with so many people wanting to burn more of the little suckers. I wasn't saying anything about the risk, just the "exercise" - Pollyanna looking for a tiny bright side in the Corona mess, I guess.
Concerning risk:
There was an interesting interview on NPR's Fresh Air this week, with Michaael Osterholm the founder/director of the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy at UMinnesota, and author of "Deadliest Enemy: Our War Against Killer Germs". His center is doing research specifically now on what circumstances have what risk of exposure to sufficient viral load to be dangerous, and related topics. (Link at the bottom to the story/audio. There's much more in the audio (41 minutes) than the text. Interesting guy, long experience.
From memory, I think he was saying that these "quick pass by" situations are less risky than a few minutes actually in close space with another person. Now, obviously, the risk is still non-zero, and I totally hear what you're saying about the numbers of people we pass being a multiplier of that risk. Still, I found the interview somewhat reassuring about the practical risk levels in grocery stores and the like.
https://www.npr.org/2020/06/17/879255417/amid-confusion-about-reopening-an-expert-explains-how-to-assess-covid-risk5
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