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It's kind of random here too. If you just wait for when you get the call it's taking forever (for some, others seem to get it sooner than makes sense), but if you keep an eye out there are various options. I got the call reminding me that appt 2 (Pfizer) is Thursday, as scheduled, although I'm going to be paranoid I won't get it bc they run out or something until it actually happens. (I lucked out and got it through a ward event, but I have no idea why wards (there are 50 w/in the city) are getting their own supply to hand out. There have been a variety of different events in different wards near me, with different criteria for who is eligible. If I'd been in the ward next to mine I wouldn't have qualified, and if in the one I lived in until a few years ago it would have run out before I saw it -- I'm still on their mailing list.)
I am working with a woman in Mississippi, and she said it's super easy there, as there's apparently more supply than takers.She just dropped into a Walgreens, as for the flu shot.8 -
My SIL texted me that her neighbor had gone to the health dept vaccine clinic nearby for her appt and heard they had a couple of hundred extra J&J shots that they were accepting walk ins for. I put on some real pants and ran down there and within 15 minutes I was vaccinated.
I am on their mailing list and follow them on FB, and there were no emails or posts advertising it. And there were folks there, but no line. I'm so grateful I found out about it, but no idea why they weren't pulling names off the state list and texting people.
So I ran a bit of a fever last night and felt generally achy. I woke up this morning and the fever is gone for now, but the news said the FDA is suggesting the US halt J&J because it's also seeing rare cases of this blood clot disorder. Oh boy
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My SIL texted me that her neighbor had gone to the health dept vaccine clinic nearby for her appt and heard they had a couple of hundred extra J&J shots that they were accepting walk ins for. I put on some real pants and ran down there and within 15 minutes I was vaccinated.
I am on their mailing list and follow them on FB, and there were no emails or posts advertising it. And there were folks there, but no line. I'm so grateful I found out about it, but no idea why they weren't pulling names off the state list and texting people.
So I ran a bit of a fever last night and felt generally achy. I woke up this morning and the fever is gone for now, but the news said the FDA is suggesting the US halt J&J because it's also seeing rare cases of this blood clot disorder. Oh boy
Yes, big surprise. But so glad you got the jab, nonetheless. You, of anyone here, appreciate the statistical significance of the findings. 6 cases in 7M shots. Nonetheless, it's reasonable to keep an eye on possible symptoms for the next 2 weeks. I'll be hoping the numbers are with you! FWIW DD got J&J, too. ANd I feel good about it!10 -
My SIL texted me that her neighbor had gone to the health dept vaccine clinic nearby for her appt and heard they had a couple of hundred extra J&J shots that they were accepting walk ins for. I put on some real pants and ran down there and within 15 minutes I was vaccinated.
I am on their mailing list and follow them on FB, and there were no emails or posts advertising it. And there were folks there, but no line. I'm so grateful I found out about it, but no idea why they weren't pulling names off the state list and texting people.
So I ran a bit of a fever last night and felt generally achy. I woke up this morning and the fever is gone for now, but the news said the FDA is suggesting the US halt J&J because it's also seeing rare cases of this blood clot disorder. Oh boy
Yes, big surprise. But so glad you got the jab, nonetheless. You, of anyone here, appreciate the statistical significance of the findings. 6 cases in 7M shots. Nonetheless, it's reasonable to keep an eye on possible symptoms for the next 2 weeks. I'll be hoping the numbers are with you! FWIW DD got J&J, too. ANd I feel good about it!
Thanks yeah I'm not logically worried and I think the pause is an over abundance of caution. My inner hypochondriac will get a bit of a workout for the next week or two though lol.
I'm glad I got the tip they were available and got in under the wire, it probably would be another month or so before I get called to make an appointment otherwise. I'm afraid the media attn to this is just going to further entrench people who were already hesitant
It would be nice if they could figure out why it happens or what else these women might have had in common. But there are more statistically significant side effects to the Tylenol I took than from the jab! 9 -
Haha re: the Tylenol! Yes, me too. Very curious. Since the disorder is characterized by low platelet count (and internal bleeding) in addition to antibody-activated platelets, I am wondering if low platelet count is one precondition. I am also wondering if menstruating women are more likely to be low platelet. Strange that the clots were all in the same place (vein from brain). And the same with AZ. Wondering if it reflects an anatomical attribute. It's all conjecture, obv, and I will be eager to hear actual findings as the investigation progresses.8
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Well, we’re inundated with pharmaceutical prescription ads on tv daily. It seems they spend a good chunk of the ad listing the possible side affects that may occur. Nothing is totally risk free, or 100% effective.
I received my second shot last Thursday. We had Moderna, but if I could have chosen, it would have been J & J. Moot point, because they suspended using it for now, but I’d still take the shot if available, and I had the choice and if I weren’t already vaccinated.
Who knows what will transpire over time? We take risks for a lot of things. Is a +90% effective rate good enough? For me it is. Better than doing nothing.7 -
My SIL texted me that her neighbor had gone to the health dept vaccine clinic nearby for her appt and heard they had a couple of hundred extra J&J shots that they were accepting walk ins for. I put on some real pants and ran down there and within 15 minutes I was vaccinated.
I am on their mailing list and follow them on FB, and there were no emails or posts advertising it. And there were folks there, but no line. I'm so grateful I found out about it, but no idea why they weren't pulling names off the state list and texting people.
So I ran a bit of a fever last night and felt generally achy. I woke up this morning and the fever is gone for now, but the news said the FDA is suggesting the US halt J&J because it's also seeing rare cases of this blood clot disorder. Oh boy
Nate Silver has a valid point if you follow him on Twitter. Basically pointing out that the number of deaths prevented by going forward with the vaccine far outweighs the number of deaths from this blood clot issue. He is right.9 -
They're pausing J&J in the US while they investigate a rare blood clot issue. I found this article really in-depth compared to others with details and links.
Main points:- J&J and AZ vaccines have the same structure, they use an adenovirus vector to combat the spike protein of COVID.
- Reactions were seen in young women (ages 18-48) not typically at risk to these types blood clots.
- Over 7 million doses of J&J have already been administered.
- CVST (Cerebral Venous Sinus Thrombosis) occurs in about five out of a million people.
- CVST causes blood clots and a drop in platelets meaning traditional treatments for clots, like heparin, cannot be used.
- A small number (I read six in another article) adverse reactions (including one death and one hospitalization in critical condition) have been reported.
- When vaccines jump from screened trial participants numbering in the tens of thousands versus millions in the general population, adverse reactions are expected.
- People who had J&J over a month ago are out of the woods, according to Dr. Fauci. (Symptoms occurred between 6-13 days after receiving the shot.) People who have had the shot more recently should be on the alert for symptoms: headache, blurred vision, seizures, loss of control of the body.
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Who here (besides me) bought a pulse oximeter because of COVID?
when myself and a family member both had covid, it was comforting to check my oxygen levels while recovering at home.8 -
T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »My SIL texted me that her neighbor had gone to the health dept vaccine clinic nearby for her appt and heard they had a couple of hundred extra J&J shots that they were accepting walk ins for. I put on some real pants and ran down there and within 15 minutes I was vaccinated.
I am on their mailing list and follow them on FB, and there were no emails or posts advertising it. And there were folks there, but no line. I'm so grateful I found out about it, but no idea why they weren't pulling names off the state list and texting people.
So I ran a bit of a fever last night and felt generally achy. I woke up this morning and the fever is gone for now, but the news said the FDA is suggesting the US halt J&J because it's also seeing rare cases of this blood clot disorder. Oh boy
Nate Silver has a valid point if you follow him on Twitter. Basically pointing out that the number of deaths prevented by going forward with the vaccine far outweighs the number of deaths from this blood clot issue. He is right.
Politics and common sense application of statistics, they are antithetical1 -
Dropping in with a little “COVID-Vax Arm info from WaPo: https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/covid-vaccine-rash-side-effect/2021/04/09/7517bad0-97bd-11eb-962b-78c1d8228819_story.html
Here's the original New England Journal of Medicine article - and yes that's what my arm looks like
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2102131
I had that sort of reaction as well on the shot arm but below where I got the shot, closer to my elbow which is still sore. I also had the intense itching in the hands and feet, a hive like rash that appeared on my arms and forehead, accompanied by more itching. Those were not immediate reactions so I almost didn't think it was connected, but now I'm sure. It has still not completely resolved itself 100% but I think it's getting better. I'm 3 weeks post 2nd shot. I am using Benedryl and cortisone cream which seems to help, at least it lets me sleep which is when the itch feels worse.
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T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »My SIL texted me that her neighbor had gone to the health dept vaccine clinic nearby for her appt and heard they had a couple of hundred extra J&J shots that they were accepting walk ins for. I put on some real pants and ran down there and within 15 minutes I was vaccinated.
I am on their mailing list and follow them on FB, and there were no emails or posts advertising it. And there were folks there, but no line. I'm so grateful I found out about it, but no idea why they weren't pulling names off the state list and texting people.
So I ran a bit of a fever last night and felt generally achy. I woke up this morning and the fever is gone for now, but the news said the FDA is suggesting the US halt J&J because it's also seeing rare cases of this blood clot disorder. Oh boy
Nate Silver has a valid point if you follow him on Twitter. Basically pointing out that the number of deaths prevented by going forward with the vaccine far outweighs the number of deaths from this blood clot issue. He is right.
But that depends a bit where you are.
Here in Australia AZ is no longer recomendec for under 50's unless in high risk situations.
As we have almost zero community transmission, any number of deaths from clotting issues would outweigh the deaths from Covid.
Of course we will eventually open international borders - but that is the situation now.
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paperpudding wrote: »T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »My SIL texted me that her neighbor had gone to the health dept vaccine clinic nearby for her appt and heard they had a couple of hundred extra J&J shots that they were accepting walk ins for. I put on some real pants and ran down there and within 15 minutes I was vaccinated.
I am on their mailing list and follow them on FB, and there were no emails or posts advertising it. And there were folks there, but no line. I'm so grateful I found out about it, but no idea why they weren't pulling names off the state list and texting people.
So I ran a bit of a fever last night and felt generally achy. I woke up this morning and the fever is gone for now, but the news said the FDA is suggesting the US halt J&J because it's also seeing rare cases of this blood clot disorder. Oh boy
Nate Silver has a valid point if you follow him on Twitter. Basically pointing out that the number of deaths prevented by going forward with the vaccine far outweighs the number of deaths from this blood clot issue. He is right.
But that depends a bit where you are.
Here in Australia AZ is no longer recomendec for under 50's unless in high risk situations.
As we have almost zero community transmission, any number of deaths from clotting issues would outweigh the deaths from Covid.
Of course we will eventually open international borders - but that is the situation now.
Of course - he was looking at statistics in the U.S.
Basically, 6 cases and 1 death with 7 million vaccines vs. a conservative estimate that 1 in 100 of those vaccinated will get infected with Covid if not vaccinated and 1 in 150 of those infected will die. Statistically, we are talking about a whole lot more dead when we don't give the vaccine. 467 deaths among those 7M because they don't get vaccinated vs. 1 death among those 7M because they do get vaccinated.
He acknowledges this model completely ignores transmission - a rate of 1:1 is a conservative estimate that should be used. So it's actually far worse to stop vaccinations than the statistics would indicate.
In Australia, "a conservative estimate that 1 in 100 of those vaccinated will get infected with Covid" is going to be a very different number and that changes the end result.8 -
In a related question to the pulse oximeter (which my Apple watch has one and sometimes it is accurate LOL). How many folks do NOT have a thermometer? I am constantly astounded to hear friends tell me when I ask if they are running a fever that they do not have one......I will admit that without children prior to having the flu in early 2018, I only had a couple old ones which the batteries were dead on, but with Covid, I have at least 1 which runs mechanically (not mercury but another chemical which is just as difficult to read) and 2 which are digital.4
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SummerSkier wrote: »In a related question to the pulse oximeter (which my Apple watch has one and sometimes it is accurate LOL). How many folks do NOT have a thermometer? I am constantly astounded to hear friends tell me when I ask if they are running a fever that they do not have one......I will admit that without children prior to having the flu in early 2018, I only had a couple old ones which the batteries were dead on, but with Covid, I have at least 1 which runs mechanically (not mercury but another chemical which is just as difficult to read) and 2 which are digital.
I think it is way more common to have one if you have kids.
I had an old, nearly dead digital one that I hadn't used in a while...it got some use early on in the pandemic, when I was paranoid and taking my temperature every day.
I just replaced it with a new digital one, and put it to good use! Got to tell the CDC survey exactly how high my fever was after my second vaccine dose!4 -
Who here (besides me) bought a pulse oximeter because of COVID?
when myself and a family member both had covid, it was comforting to check my oxygen levels while recovering at home.
I did too. I read that people were going to the ER way too late because they didn't realize that their oxygen levels were dangerously low, so I ordered one.1 -
T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »My SIL texted me that her neighbor had gone to the health dept vaccine clinic nearby for her appt and heard they had a couple of hundred extra J&J shots that they were accepting walk ins for. I put on some real pants and ran down there and within 15 minutes I was vaccinated.
I am on their mailing list and follow them on FB, and there were no emails or posts advertising it. And there were folks there, but no line. I'm so grateful I found out about it, but no idea why they weren't pulling names off the state list and texting people.
So I ran a bit of a fever last night and felt generally achy. I woke up this morning and the fever is gone for now, but the news said the FDA is suggesting the US halt J&J because it's also seeing rare cases of this blood clot disorder. Oh boy
Nate Silver has a valid point if you follow him on Twitter. Basically pointing out that the number of deaths prevented by going forward with the vaccine far outweighs the number of deaths from this blood clot issue. He is right.
From a public health perspective it makes sense, even if 1/1000 people died from the vaccine, the other 999 would be protected from COVID death. But do I want to be that one person who sacrifices myself for the cause? Not really.
I think the main issue here is that we have other vaccines available that don't *seem* to have the same reaction. So is it really ethical to continue using vaccines that do cause this reaction?
As paperpudding suggested that probably depends on how bad the outbreak is in a given place. In Australia it would seem that they could safely wait without too much death and destruction happening. Here in Ontario cases are out of control and our hospitals are getting overwhelmed, so might not be the best idea to wait.2 -
All our thermometers broke, batteries corroded, otherwise not functional. We might have one, but I'm honestly unsure. We too bought a pulse oximeter that I find comforting to use occasionally even having NOT had covid
Also had adult offspring buy them. 4 -
SummerSkier wrote: »In a related question to the pulse oximeter (which my Apple watch has one and sometimes it is accurate LOL). How many folks do NOT have a thermometer? I am constantly astounded to hear friends tell me when I ask if they are running a fever that they do not have one......I will admit that without children prior to having the flu in early 2018, I only had a couple old ones which the batteries were dead on, but with Covid, I have at least 1 which runs mechanically (not mercury but another chemical which is just as difficult to read) and 2 which are digital.
Very good point.
My dd just got off quarantine last Thursday. She does not have one. Her birthday is coming up 4/30. We can visit with her starting 4/22, which is two weeks after our 2nd covid shot. She’s getting a thermometer in her birthday gift box. We have one, it’s never been opened, so I’ll have to check it to see if it’s working.
BTW, my daughter has been working from home for several years, contact with others limited to, visiting us, grocery shopping, and the laundromat. She is very diligent about following the guidelines, and still contracted covid. Be careful everyone.
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SummerSkier wrote: »In a related question to the pulse oximeter (which my Apple watch has one and sometimes it is accurate LOL). How many folks do NOT have a thermometer? I am constantly astounded to hear friends tell me when I ask if they are running a fever that they do not have one......I will admit that without children prior to having the flu in early 2018, I only had a couple old ones which the batteries were dead on, but with Covid, I have at least 1 which runs mechanically (not mercury but another chemical which is just as difficult to read) and 2 which are digital.
I did get a pulse oximeter, and around the same time I also got a thermometer. I'd not had one pre-covid (no kids, so I never really had a need), and I realized that I wouldn't know if I were running a fever (or even what my normal temp was). At first it was hard to find one, so I suspect there was a run on them, but I eventually acquired one.2 -
Just heard on the news that Canada had it's first case of vaccine induced blood clot. They also said the woman is "recovering at home" - so that is encouraging. Now that they are aware of it I guess they can be on the lookout and treat it promptly when it happens.1
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Just heard on the news that Canada had it's first case of vaccine induced blood clot. They also said the woman is "recovering at home" - so that is encouraging. Now that they are aware of it I guess they can be on the lookout and treat it promptly when it happens.
They're not releasing her age, dammit. Although we know she's over 55....1 -
I'm totally plagiarizing this from a FB account called "your local epidemiologist" posting on what was discussed at the hearing about the J&J vaccine, so I haven't fact checked this. Hopefully it's accurate
Considering the combo of CVST with low platelets, this is a bit higher incidence than in the general population.
From the 6 cases:
* Don't yet know if treatment with heparin caused the one death.
* Only one was on birth control.
* None had pre existing coagulation disorders.
* Don't know yet if it's under reported, it's possible older people's cases weren't linked to the shot as it happens a week or more after vaxx.
* Don't know yet if any previously had covid.
Interestingly, no CVST events have ever been reported in J&J's other vaccines that use an adenovirus which were the foundation of their covid vaccine.
They plan to meet in no later than 10 days to make a decision on how to proceed.8 -
Just heard on the news that Canada had it's first case of vaccine induced blood clot. They also said the woman is "recovering at home" - so that is encouraging. Now that they are aware of it I guess they can be on the lookout and treat it promptly when it happens.
My vague understanding is it's very treatable as long as a knowledgeable practitioner knows it's not a typical clotting issue, as typical treatment would be heparin and that will make things worse.5 -
Who here (besides me) bought a pulse oximeter because of COVID?
when myself and a family member both had covid, it was comforting to check my oxygen levels while recovering at home.
I bought one!
In the beginning I was terrified of being contagious but not symptomatic and killing my mother. Getting a pulse oximeter reading before visiting her helped with that.4 -
SummerSkier wrote: »In a related question to the pulse oximeter (which my Apple watch has one and sometimes it is accurate LOL). How many folks do NOT have a thermometer? I am constantly astounded to hear friends tell me when I ask if they are running a fever that they do not have one......I will admit that without children prior to having the flu in early 2018, I only had a couple old ones which the batteries were dead on, but with Covid, I have at least 1 which runs mechanically (not mercury but another chemical which is just as difficult to read) and 2 which are digital.
I thought I had a working thermometer but it turns out I was wrong. I tossed it and have yet to replace it. I'd have one if I had children.2 -
SummerSkier wrote: »In a related question to the pulse oximeter (which my Apple watch has one and sometimes it is accurate LOL). How many folks do NOT have a thermometer? I am constantly astounded to hear friends tell me when I ask if they are running a fever that they do not have one......I will admit that without children prior to having the flu in early 2018, I only had a couple old ones which the batteries were dead on, but with Covid, I have at least 1 which runs mechanically (not mercury but another chemical which is just as difficult to read) and 2 which are digital.
We have one, but I have only used it to check due to covid.
You don't know when you have a fever? With kids you can tell by looking and gauging behavior, let alone feeling their forehead. Their cheeks get flushed, they have thin skin and it shows almost instantly when they have an elevated temperature. May not work with older kids though, they don't have that same thin baby/little kid skin.2 -
ExistingFish wrote: »SummerSkier wrote: »In a related question to the pulse oximeter (which my Apple watch has one and sometimes it is accurate LOL). How many folks do NOT have a thermometer? I am constantly astounded to hear friends tell me when I ask if they are running a fever that they do not have one......I will admit that without children prior to having the flu in early 2018, I only had a couple old ones which the batteries were dead on, but with Covid, I have at least 1 which runs mechanically (not mercury but another chemical which is just as difficult to read) and 2 which are digital.
We have one, but I have only used it to check due to covid.
You don't know when you have a fever? With kids you can tell by looking and gauging behavior, let alone feeling their forehead. Their cheeks get flushed, they have thin skin and it shows almost instantly when they have an elevated temperature. May not work with older kids though, they don't have that same thin baby/little kid skin.
When I was a kid, I never felt sick when I had fever, and my fevers were always high (40-41C). I remember being shocked the first time I actually felt sick and tired as a pre-teen. My mom was a little worried too, since she was used to bribing me with cartoon marathons just so I would sit still and rest when I was sick.
As an adult, my natural temperature is about 1C lower than ”normal”, so others can’t recognize a slight fever by checking my forehead as my fever is their normal. I also needed a thermometer when I worked at a grocery store and running even a slight fever at work was an absolute no-no, so checking at home every time I felt even a little bit sick was a must.4 -
T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »My SIL texted me that her neighbor had gone to the health dept vaccine clinic nearby for her appt and heard they had a couple of hundred extra J&J shots that they were accepting walk ins for. I put on some real pants and ran down there and within 15 minutes I was vaccinated.
I am on their mailing list and follow them on FB, and there were no emails or posts advertising it. And there were folks there, but no line. I'm so grateful I found out about it, but no idea why they weren't pulling names off the state list and texting people.
So I ran a bit of a fever last night and felt generally achy. I woke up this morning and the fever is gone for now, but the news said the FDA is suggesting the US halt J&J because it's also seeing rare cases of this blood clot disorder. Oh boy
Nate Silver has a valid point if you follow him on Twitter. Basically pointing out that the number of deaths prevented by going forward with the vaccine far outweighs the number of deaths from this blood clot issue. He is right.
From a public health perspective it makes sense, even if 1/1000 people died from the vaccine, the other 999 would be protected from COVID death. But do I want to be that one person who sacrifices myself for the cause? Not really.
I think the main issue here is that we have other vaccines available that don't *seem* to have the same reaction. So is it really ethical to continue using vaccines that do cause this reaction?
As paperpudding suggested that probably depends on how bad the outbreak is in a given place. In Australia it would seem that they could safely wait without too much death and destruction happening. Here in Ontario cases are out of control and our hospitals are getting overwhelmed, so might not be the best idea to wait.
J&J is the only single-dose, and I am hearing from a lot of people that won't do 2, but will take 1. Or they are ok with J&J because it works differently supposedly. In addition, a single-dose works best for transient populations (such as prisons).
Finally, there is that question of how many vaccine doses are available otherwise. Does pulling J&J delay some from getting a vaccine. My understanding is that the answer is Yes... and that's why the risk is so much higher to pull it.
FTR nobody is "sacrificing" themselves - it isn't known if you will be the 1 in 7 million that dies from the vaccine. It is taking a risk of getting Covid (1 in 15,000 deaths if using conservative estimates and incorrectly ignoring compounded spread to others) vs. taking the risk of death from vaccine at 1 in 7,000,000.10
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