Coronavirus prep
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kshama2001 wrote: »Our Kroger has taken down all their mask required signs at the doors. The state wide mandate ended Monday and people are taking advantage of it. I will still wear a mask until I have had both shots.
Shot 1 is tomorrow morning so we shall see how it goes
Must be nice - we are in a modified "lockdown" and today they are going to announce a month long stay at home order.
(When I say "must be nice' I mean it would be nice to live in a jurisdiction where things getting back to "normal" was actually in sight.)
It may be less a case of things are getting back to normal due to science / actual risk and more a case of politics.
@Athijade: where do you live?
Indiana
Thanks! Interestingly, your Marion County / Indianapolis is keeping the restrictions in place. (And your governor has to defend his decision.)
https://www.wfyi.org/news/articles/coronavirus-indiana-sets-end-for-covid-19-restrictions-to-open-eligibility-to-all-161 -
kshama2001 wrote: »MikePfirrman wrote: »Just popping in with my daily dose of cheery news ... About COVID sufferers suffering from brain disorders after recovery. 😞https://abc7.com/health/1-in-3-covid-19-survivors-suffers-brain-disease-study-finds/10494640/
I've read about that. It seems there is an inflammation in the spinal fluid that is causing it. I believe they found C Reactive protein in areas of the brain that it shouldn't exist. Though, the belief is, over time, it will settle down. I think they believe that antivirals will help over time.
There is a bright side to this. It's my personal opinion that a lot of illnesses have latent viruses behind them -- Fibromyalgia, Lupus, certain cancers, Lyme Disease, possibly Chronic Fatigue. I think in better understanding the source of these stealth viruses that don't go completely away and spending money on them will possibly help many more conditions than just Covid-19 long haulers. The long haulers are very similar to other conditions, it's just brought more attention to it, IMHO.
Edit -- it seems the scientific community is torn on if there might be a viral infection of the brain versus Autoimmune Encephilitis (inflammation of the brain caused by antibodies, but not a viral infection, where basically the body attacks the brain, like in other organ related autoimmune conditions).
My understanding is that Lyme disease is caused by the the bacteriums Borrelia burgdorferi and Borrelia mayonii but I would be delighted if something about this pandemic helped with Lyme disease treatment or prevention.
I was just at Urgent Care last week getting an imbedded tick removed. The doctor and nurse thought a tick bite was a big deal, which I thought was funny, as I have literally had dozens and dozens of tick bites over the years as I live in Massachusetts and spend a lot of time in the woods and fields, and tick mitigation is a normal part of my life this time of year.
I also knew my tick was not the blacklegged tick, which is the one far more likely to carry the disease, and that it had not been attached for very long. (The risk is lower if the tick has been attached for less than 36 hours.) (I don't believe I've ever been bitten by the blacklegged tick - these are much smaller than our usual ticks. I still take mitigation very seriously.)
But it was funny the way the doctor and nurse thought a tick bite was so unusual. The doctor needed to make sure I was wearing clothes out in the woods LMAO!
I've been stung by scorpions and bitten by a brown recluse spider - THAT was a big deal.
ps - I feel the need to clarify in advance, yes LYME disease is a big deal. But getting bitten by ticks that do not carry it is not.
Yep, Lyme disease is caused by bacteria. However, some ticks spread TBE (tick-borne encephalitis), which is caused by a virus, and there’s a vaccine for that. In Finland the vaccine is included in the public vaccination program for those who live or have a permanent summer cabin or vacation home in high risk areas. I don’t know how widely the virus (or ticks carrying it) is spread around the world, but at least in Finland it’s very localized. By that, I mean some high risk areas listed by the public health officials are specific parts of specific cities, while others are larger areas.4 -
Dropping in with a little “COVID-Vax Arm info from WaPo: https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/covid-vaccine-rash-side-effect/2021/04/09/7517bad0-97bd-11eb-962b-78c1d8228819_story.html
Here's the original New England Journal of Medicine article - and yes that's what my arm looks like
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc21021314 -
Dropping in with a little “COVID-Vax Arm info from WaPo: https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/covid-vaccine-rash-side-effect/2021/04/09/7517bad0-97bd-11eb-962b-78c1d8228819_story.html
Here's the original New England Journal of Medicine article - and yes that's what my arm looks like
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2102131
Patient #10 turned into a zombie, apparently... 🤮2 -
Pennsylvania is opening up vaccines to all adults a week early. I'm not sure why since they hadn't finished with the first responders, etc. yet. Tomorrow I get to start the mad search for an appointment, competing with the 2/3 of the residents of my county who haven't been vaccinated yet.7
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Dropping in with a little “COVID-Vax Arm info from WaPo: https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/covid-vaccine-rash-side-effect/2021/04/09/7517bad0-97bd-11eb-962b-78c1d8228819_story.html
Here's the original New England Journal of Medicine article - and yes that's what my arm looks like
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2102131
Patient #10 turned into a zombie, apparently... 🤮
It wasn't me! can't speak for my husband though.
(although in my case they couldn't tell there was any change
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My SIL texted me that her neighbor had gone to the health dept vaccine clinic nearby for her appt and heard they had a couple of hundred extra J&J shots that they were accepting walk ins for. I put on some real pants and ran down there and within 15 minutes I was vaccinated.
I am on their mailing list and follow them on FB, and there were no emails or posts advertising it. And there were folks there, but no line. I'm so grateful I found out about it, but no idea why they weren't pulling names off the state list and texting people.18 -
It's kind of random here too. If you just wait for when you get the call it's taking forever (for some, others seem to get it sooner than makes sense), but if you keep an eye out there are various options. I got the call reminding me that appt 2 (Pfizer) is Thursday, as scheduled, although I'm going to be paranoid I won't get it bc they run out or something until it actually happens. (I lucked out and got it through a ward event, but I have no idea why wards (there are 50 w/in the city) are getting their own supply to hand out. There have been a variety of different events in different wards near me, with different criteria for who is eligible. If I'd been in the ward next to mine I wouldn't have qualified, and if in the one I lived in until a few years ago it would have run out before I saw it -- I'm still on their mailing list.)
I am working with a woman in Mississippi, and she said it's super easy there, as there's apparently more supply than takers.She just dropped into a Walgreens, as for the flu shot.8 -
My SIL texted me that her neighbor had gone to the health dept vaccine clinic nearby for her appt and heard they had a couple of hundred extra J&J shots that they were accepting walk ins for. I put on some real pants and ran down there and within 15 minutes I was vaccinated.
I am on their mailing list and follow them on FB, and there were no emails or posts advertising it. And there were folks there, but no line. I'm so grateful I found out about it, but no idea why they weren't pulling names off the state list and texting people.
So I ran a bit of a fever last night and felt generally achy. I woke up this morning and the fever is gone for now, but the news said the FDA is suggesting the US halt J&J because it's also seeing rare cases of this blood clot disorder. Oh boy
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My SIL texted me that her neighbor had gone to the health dept vaccine clinic nearby for her appt and heard they had a couple of hundred extra J&J shots that they were accepting walk ins for. I put on some real pants and ran down there and within 15 minutes I was vaccinated.
I am on their mailing list and follow them on FB, and there were no emails or posts advertising it. And there were folks there, but no line. I'm so grateful I found out about it, but no idea why they weren't pulling names off the state list and texting people.
So I ran a bit of a fever last night and felt generally achy. I woke up this morning and the fever is gone for now, but the news said the FDA is suggesting the US halt J&J because it's also seeing rare cases of this blood clot disorder. Oh boy
Yes, big surprise. But so glad you got the jab, nonetheless. You, of anyone here, appreciate the statistical significance of the findings. 6 cases in 7M shots. Nonetheless, it's reasonable to keep an eye on possible symptoms for the next 2 weeks. I'll be hoping the numbers are with you! FWIW DD got J&J, too. ANd I feel good about it!10 -
My SIL texted me that her neighbor had gone to the health dept vaccine clinic nearby for her appt and heard they had a couple of hundred extra J&J shots that they were accepting walk ins for. I put on some real pants and ran down there and within 15 minutes I was vaccinated.
I am on their mailing list and follow them on FB, and there were no emails or posts advertising it. And there were folks there, but no line. I'm so grateful I found out about it, but no idea why they weren't pulling names off the state list and texting people.
So I ran a bit of a fever last night and felt generally achy. I woke up this morning and the fever is gone for now, but the news said the FDA is suggesting the US halt J&J because it's also seeing rare cases of this blood clot disorder. Oh boy
Yes, big surprise. But so glad you got the jab, nonetheless. You, of anyone here, appreciate the statistical significance of the findings. 6 cases in 7M shots. Nonetheless, it's reasonable to keep an eye on possible symptoms for the next 2 weeks. I'll be hoping the numbers are with you! FWIW DD got J&J, too. ANd I feel good about it!
Thanks yeah I'm not logically worried and I think the pause is an over abundance of caution. My inner hypochondriac will get a bit of a workout for the next week or two though lol.
I'm glad I got the tip they were available and got in under the wire, it probably would be another month or so before I get called to make an appointment otherwise. I'm afraid the media attn to this is just going to further entrench people who were already hesitant
It would be nice if they could figure out why it happens or what else these women might have had in common. But there are more statistically significant side effects to the Tylenol I took than from the jab! 9 -
Haha re: the Tylenol! Yes, me too. Very curious. Since the disorder is characterized by low platelet count (and internal bleeding) in addition to antibody-activated platelets, I am wondering if low platelet count is one precondition. I am also wondering if menstruating women are more likely to be low platelet. Strange that the clots were all in the same place (vein from brain). And the same with AZ. Wondering if it reflects an anatomical attribute. It's all conjecture, obv, and I will be eager to hear actual findings as the investigation progresses.8
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Well, we’re inundated with pharmaceutical prescription ads on tv daily. It seems they spend a good chunk of the ad listing the possible side affects that may occur. Nothing is totally risk free, or 100% effective.
I received my second shot last Thursday. We had Moderna, but if I could have chosen, it would have been J & J. Moot point, because they suspended using it for now, but I’d still take the shot if available, and I had the choice and if I weren’t already vaccinated.
Who knows what will transpire over time? We take risks for a lot of things. Is a +90% effective rate good enough? For me it is. Better than doing nothing.7 -
My SIL texted me that her neighbor had gone to the health dept vaccine clinic nearby for her appt and heard they had a couple of hundred extra J&J shots that they were accepting walk ins for. I put on some real pants and ran down there and within 15 minutes I was vaccinated.
I am on their mailing list and follow them on FB, and there were no emails or posts advertising it. And there were folks there, but no line. I'm so grateful I found out about it, but no idea why they weren't pulling names off the state list and texting people.
So I ran a bit of a fever last night and felt generally achy. I woke up this morning and the fever is gone for now, but the news said the FDA is suggesting the US halt J&J because it's also seeing rare cases of this blood clot disorder. Oh boy
Nate Silver has a valid point if you follow him on Twitter. Basically pointing out that the number of deaths prevented by going forward with the vaccine far outweighs the number of deaths from this blood clot issue. He is right.9 -
They're pausing J&J in the US while they investigate a rare blood clot issue. I found this article really in-depth compared to others with details and links.
Main points:- J&J and AZ vaccines have the same structure, they use an adenovirus vector to combat the spike protein of COVID.
- Reactions were seen in young women (ages 18-48) not typically at risk to these types blood clots.
- Over 7 million doses of J&J have already been administered.
- CVST (Cerebral Venous Sinus Thrombosis) occurs in about five out of a million people.
- CVST causes blood clots and a drop in platelets meaning traditional treatments for clots, like heparin, cannot be used.
- A small number (I read six in another article) adverse reactions (including one death and one hospitalization in critical condition) have been reported.
- When vaccines jump from screened trial participants numbering in the tens of thousands versus millions in the general population, adverse reactions are expected.
- People who had J&J over a month ago are out of the woods, according to Dr. Fauci. (Symptoms occurred between 6-13 days after receiving the shot.) People who have had the shot more recently should be on the alert for symptoms: headache, blurred vision, seizures, loss of control of the body.
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Who here (besides me) bought a pulse oximeter because of COVID?
when myself and a family member both had covid, it was comforting to check my oxygen levels while recovering at home.8 -
T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »My SIL texted me that her neighbor had gone to the health dept vaccine clinic nearby for her appt and heard they had a couple of hundred extra J&J shots that they were accepting walk ins for. I put on some real pants and ran down there and within 15 minutes I was vaccinated.
I am on their mailing list and follow them on FB, and there were no emails or posts advertising it. And there were folks there, but no line. I'm so grateful I found out about it, but no idea why they weren't pulling names off the state list and texting people.
So I ran a bit of a fever last night and felt generally achy. I woke up this morning and the fever is gone for now, but the news said the FDA is suggesting the US halt J&J because it's also seeing rare cases of this blood clot disorder. Oh boy
Nate Silver has a valid point if you follow him on Twitter. Basically pointing out that the number of deaths prevented by going forward with the vaccine far outweighs the number of deaths from this blood clot issue. He is right.
Politics and common sense application of statistics, they are antithetical1 -
Dropping in with a little “COVID-Vax Arm info from WaPo: https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/covid-vaccine-rash-side-effect/2021/04/09/7517bad0-97bd-11eb-962b-78c1d8228819_story.html
Here's the original New England Journal of Medicine article - and yes that's what my arm looks like
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2102131
I had that sort of reaction as well on the shot arm but below where I got the shot, closer to my elbow which is still sore. I also had the intense itching in the hands and feet, a hive like rash that appeared on my arms and forehead, accompanied by more itching. Those were not immediate reactions so I almost didn't think it was connected, but now I'm sure. It has still not completely resolved itself 100% but I think it's getting better. I'm 3 weeks post 2nd shot. I am using Benedryl and cortisone cream which seems to help, at least it lets me sleep which is when the itch feels worse.
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T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »My SIL texted me that her neighbor had gone to the health dept vaccine clinic nearby for her appt and heard they had a couple of hundred extra J&J shots that they were accepting walk ins for. I put on some real pants and ran down there and within 15 minutes I was vaccinated.
I am on their mailing list and follow them on FB, and there were no emails or posts advertising it. And there were folks there, but no line. I'm so grateful I found out about it, but no idea why they weren't pulling names off the state list and texting people.
So I ran a bit of a fever last night and felt generally achy. I woke up this morning and the fever is gone for now, but the news said the FDA is suggesting the US halt J&J because it's also seeing rare cases of this blood clot disorder. Oh boy
Nate Silver has a valid point if you follow him on Twitter. Basically pointing out that the number of deaths prevented by going forward with the vaccine far outweighs the number of deaths from this blood clot issue. He is right.
But that depends a bit where you are.
Here in Australia AZ is no longer recomendec for under 50's unless in high risk situations.
As we have almost zero community transmission, any number of deaths from clotting issues would outweigh the deaths from Covid.
Of course we will eventually open international borders - but that is the situation now.
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