Coronavirus prep

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  • snowflake954
    snowflake954 Posts: 8,399 Member
    I would like to remind younger folks that think they'll do just fine with the virus, that if left to run like a house on fire it may morph into something stronger. It' prudent to try and slow it down so it's managable. Northern Italy has seen younger people hit along with the older. I sure hope this thread can keep going without a lock, because I'll be very interested to see everyone's opinions in a couple of weeks or so--I'll bet that they'll change.

    Our 3rd case was reported today in Minnesota since Friday. The first two are older. The 3rd person is in 30’s and in critical condition. Everyone needs to be aware and take precautions for their, and their families hygiene practices. It’s not a hoax. Concern, definitely. Panic, no.

    Almost all my family is in Minnesota. My mother is 90, in good health for her age, but wouldn't make it through the virus. She is out on a farm in the boonies. If she stays home instead of running around.
  • JRsLateInLifeMom
    JRsLateInLifeMom Posts: 2,275 Member
    edited March 2020
    Chef Barbell- It’s definitely a PITA we paid double for the tiny cans of corn than our normal salt free giant cans. Once a vaccines out there to procedures for tackling it to curing it that’s more sound y known by all things will get easier. How long will that be don’t know so even my Mother-in-law using a CVS or Walgreens app sending it to her house 🏡. Rest we bring her for now. If you like send a friend request In updating my friends when they ask where to get stuff ..I’m the stay at home mom since this last pregnancy so more time than them. (Csection issues is why)
  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 28,053 Member
    Kshama2001- oh my lord theirs nothing on those shelves at all! We thought it was bad here! Yikes 😳 . Try online for some or other stores.The diaper isles here keep looking like that so they had 1 1/2 isles instead of half of 1 now at Sam’s Club .

    I'm all set, thanks - as soon as I heard about panic buying in a nearby state I stocked up :)
  • JRsLateInLifeMom
    JRsLateInLifeMom Posts: 2,275 Member
    Kshama2001-good to here that . That was smart to do .
  • josephinebowman
    josephinebowman Posts: 359 Member
    I am thinking about this daily. I have about 8 rolls of toilet paper--guess I need that. The map shown a few times above does not match the one my senator sent out today. IT REALLY DOES NOT. Senator Warner stated there are 9 confirmed cases in Virginia and I know 2 in Virginia Beach were cruise people. I understood his reference to say that the source of other cases was not yet determined. I know SEALs (Navy) are canceling a golf tournament and the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints have changed their next Conference to ' restricted entry' as well as asked that large scale meetings be reconsidered. I guess I am old, 63, and have complications (diabetes, kidney, thyroid) but sort of think I stay home a lot and home school child. Who knows?
  • bmeadows380
    bmeadows380 Posts: 2,981 Member
    thankfully, I don't need diapers! But it does make me wonder about the cat food. I've got plenty in my freezer, pantry, and canned shelf, and my parents are right across the road so we'd share back and forth if it came down to it.

    Still no confirmed cases in West Virginia, but I know its coming. I can say that my perception of this has changed in the last few days - still not panicking but my wariness levels have definitely increased. I don't personally have any health problems or co-morbidities, but my parents and sister are diabetics with other problems, my dad had lung issues, and my best friend, who lives in the metro area, has bad asthma and weak lungs; it was be deadly for her if she catches it, especially as she's been having a lot of medical problems in the last couple of years.

    I have a local craft show this weekend to attend, and one in Virginia in Covington the 28th. I've already paid for the one in Convington. If they have it, I will still go, but make sure I take plenty of supplies with me. However, with it already being in Virginia, there's a good chance this might get canceled or delayed, especially since they pull in people from central Virginia.
  • josephinebowman
    josephinebowman Posts: 359 Member
    Here's what Senator Mark Warner sent to his constituents: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-in-us.html
  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,865 Member
    edited March 2020
    cwolfman13 wrote: »
    I'm supposed to take my two boys on a Colorado road trip for Spring break which culminates with a Supercross motorcycle race at Mile High Stadium in Denver. I'm kind of at a loss right now...the boys have been looking forward to this since November. I kind of hope they cancel the event and take that decision out of my hands...and so that I can at least get my money back as it was a bit over $200...I'd also have to eat around $400 worth of lodging because I got a smoking deal at a Marriott but had to pay upfront with no refunds for cancellation. All of my other lodging can be cancelled up to 24 hours before.

    I still have a few weeks until I have to decide, so I guess I'll just watch how things go.

    The race I was supposed to run this weekend was cancelled (along with about 284995050605 others according to my emails). I wouldn’t count on a refund though (especially if the event is cancelled close to the date) - unless there’s an existing refund policy for the race.

    But many travel providers (airlines, hotels, etc) are relaxing change and cancellation policies - many currently have waivers for travel dates through the end of April. So you may do better there than you think.

    If you end up not going.

    I would think since it's a sporting event they would give fans a refund if the event can't take place...but I don't know. That'll be around 50,000 pissed off fans.

    I could see a local race you sign up for not giving refunds...but this is a very large sporting event like going to a pro football game, etc. The very best riders in the world.
  • lemurcat2
    lemurcat2 Posts: 7,885 Member
    earlnabby wrote: »
    If this keeps up, I can't imagine what Milwaukee will do if the festivals get cancelled. Between Summerfest (largest music festival in the world) and all of the ethnic festivals (pretty much one every weekend except during Summerfest) the city rakes in a lot of money.

    Already Chicago has lost a ton of conferences, etc.
  • Duck_Puddle
    Duck_Puddle Posts: 3,237 Member
    cwolfman13 wrote: »
    cwolfman13 wrote: »
    I'm supposed to take my two boys on a Colorado road trip for Spring break which culminates with a Supercross motorcycle race at Mile High Stadium in Denver. I'm kind of at a loss right now...the boys have been looking forward to this since November. I kind of hope they cancel the event and take that decision out of my hands...and so that I can at least get my money back as it was a bit over $200...I'd also have to eat around $400 worth of lodging because I got a smoking deal at a Marriott but had to pay upfront with no refunds for cancellation. All of my other lodging can be cancelled up to 24 hours before.

    I still have a few weeks until I have to decide, so I guess I'll just watch how things go.

    The race I was supposed to run this weekend was cancelled (along with about 284995050605 others according to my emails). I wouldn’t count on a refund though (especially if the event is cancelled close to the date) - unless there’s an existing refund policy for the race.

    But many travel providers (airlines, hotels, etc) are relaxing change and cancellation policies - many currently have waivers for travel dates through the end of April. So you may do better there than you think.

    If you end up not going.

    I would think since it's a sporting event they would give fans a refund if the event can't take place...but I don't know. That'll be around 50,000 pissed off fans.

    I could see a local race you sign up for not giving refunds...but this is a very large sporting event like going to a pro football game, etc. The very best riders in the world.

    Oh? It’s an event to watch? I was thinking it was an event you all were participating in. My mistake.

    That should be refunded.

    Races you (or many) are participating in are not all offering refunds (deferrals are common). Even for the major marathons with 50K plus runners.
  • girlwithcurls2
    girlwithcurls2 Posts: 2,281 Member
    We have a huge running event this weekend (Oregon). So far, it's on. The race organizers are posting updates on the website that they are keeping up with guidelines from local health officials and the CDC. I'm still planning to go. It's one of the biggest races, but it is outdoors, it's well managed, and usually, runners become quite spread out, in spite of the amount of people.

    My 24 year old has a trip to Vegas planned with girlfriends that I am encouraging her to cancel though. Bring cooped up in casinos and handling things like slots doesn't sound like a good plan right now.

    I'm still trying to get over how many times a day I find myself with my hands up at my face...
  • DecadeDuchess
    DecadeDuchess Posts: 315 Member
    kshama2001 wrote: »

    I wish I would've known about the virus last year when I booked my cruise lol Oh well. As long as I wash my hands constantly and use hand sanitizer I should be alright. Norwegian Cruise Line has been keeping us pretty informed of all of the steps they're taking in response to the virus. They're not messing around lol

    Not to fearmonger, but the air filtration systems are also part of the issue on cruise ships. Air goes from cabin to cabin, with outside air being mixed with inside air. The filters aren't fine enough to pick up the virus (unlike planes, which recirculate air, but have filters than can keep the virus out of the air).

    https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2020-02-25/how-coronavirus-raced-through-quarantined-cruise-ship

    Definitely good to know! Unfortunately, there's not much I can do about that now lol I can't cancel my reservation and receive a refund because I'm sailing in 8 days, plus I don't meet their criteria for being eligible for a refund.

    I'm just going to cough as loud as possible to try and keep people away from me as much as possible lol JK!

    EDIT: Norwegian now says we can cancel our cruise up to 48 hours before we sail, but we decided to just go on it anyways. Maybe we'll get lucky and it'll be a fairly empty cruise!

    If that many passengers cancel, it's doubtful that it'd be profitable enough for them to chose to continue the cruise.
  • try2again
    try2again Posts: 3,562 Member
    edited March 2020
    Just saw the NCAA "recommends" that the NCAA tournament be played without spectators (just essential personnel and family). My question is, isn't that the NCAA's call? Who decides about their recommendation?

    Edited to add: Never mind. Looks like the media report I read used that language, but others are reporting it as a done deal.
  • JRsLateInLifeMom
    JRsLateInLifeMom Posts: 2,275 Member
    West Virginia Coronovirus - March 14 the military personnel who came in contact with a positive person will be up unless they test positive or begin to show signs. https://www.wboy.com/top-stories/service-member-at-wvs-camp-dawson-may-have-been-exposed-to-coronavirus/

  • corinasue1143
    corinasue1143 Posts: 7,464 Member
    edited March 2020
    NovusDies wrote: »
    AnnPT77 wrote: »
    earlnabby wrote: »
    Been lurking in this thread for a couple of days, thought I'd drop in the latest from Ireland. At the time of writing we have around 34 confirmed cases in the Republic (South of Ireland) and there are further cases in Northern Ireland (which fall under the UK's stats).

    *snipped*

    Schools and universities are open as normal. There has been no overall ban on large gatherings. There was a huge unnecessary political debate between the IRFU and the Minister for Health about the cancellation of the Six Nations Ireland v Italy game, with noone initially wanting to take responsibility for the cancellation of the game. The St Patrick's parades were going to go ahead, then they weren't, then they were and now have finally been cancelled.

    Panic buying seems to be a bit hit and miss, some commuter towns have absolutely no toilet roll, pasta, etc on the shelves but city centre supermarkets are pretty quiet compared to normal with full stocks of everything.

    I keep a mild interest in the media around it for work purposes (I deal with international travel for our employees) but I get most of my facts and figures from this site, which deals mostly in just stats without the fear-mongering sensationalist headlines. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ and keep an eye on major airlines sites such as Cathay Pacific to see what the story is with current travel restrictions.

    I am not in the panic stage myself, I have some meals prepped in the chest freezer, adequate normal supplies of cleaning products and consumables, as I normally buy large packs anyway to cut down on plastic waste. I am of the opinion that it is here now, it is going to affect us all at some stage whether directly or indirectly, we can just do our best to minimise the risk to ourselves and to those around us by practicing good hygiene, sensible risk assessment and doing what we can to maximise the effectiveness of the immune system through decent sleep, healthy diet, exercise, etc.

    Just heard: now we know it is bad because the St. Patrick's Day Parade in Chicago was just cancelled. The New York one, which has been held every year since 1762, so far is still happening. If they shut that one down, we know the Apocalypse is upon us.


    Or, perhaps, if the New York one is not cancelled, that decision will bring the Apocalypse upon us.

    (^^^ Intended as a wry, dark-humor joke. Clearly, authorities' role in managing large-attendance events is a serious consideration when it comes to the spread of the virus, and each decision is nuanced and specific. I hope they are well-advised by true experts. While I think authorities are capable of bad decisions (of course), I think it's much more common for some non-experts' "gut feelings" (mistaken for reasoning or common sense) to be less functional than the reasoning of experts who've studied and worked in a field for years to decades, and for some of those non-experts to trumpet their views, arrogantly, as more true and sensible than the eggheads'. Possible? Sure. Likely? No.)

    No matter what decision they make it will be judged in hindsight like many of the other decisions have been. It is always easy to know what the right choice is/was if you know the outcome. It might always seem like erring on the side of caution is prudent but if we all did that we would be permanently paralyzed because there is no safe. How many people in lock down areas will die in their homes alone because they were not in public when they had a medical emergency like a heart attack or stroke?

    Owning my disagree. I think that avoiding massive crowds during a known and named pandemic is not excessively cautious.

    And wherever they get the funds from, if no one comes because of fear of crowds, it will have been a waste of money.

    My opinion is obviously to cancel big and crowded events.

    The governor of Washington has mandated this as of an hour and a half ago.

    Gatherings larger than 250.

    Oklahoma university board of regents had a meeting today to discuss the possibility of closing campus and having on-line classes after spring break.


    Update: they have just announced they won’t decide by themselves. They are talking with OSU officials, Health sciences Center, the health department and others. It will be a joint decision when it is made.