Coronavirus prep
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snowflake954 wrote: »I would like to remind younger folks that think they'll do just fine with the virus, that if left to run like a house on fire it may morph into something stronger. It' prudent to try and slow it down so it's managable. Northern Italy has seen younger people hit along with the older. I sure hope this thread can keep going without a lock, because I'll be very interested to see everyone's opinions in a couple of weeks or so--I'll bet that they'll change.
My husband pointed me to this video explaining the situation in Italy. Very sobering and frightening.
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The Atlantic this afternoon had an article about recommendations from an Italian medical organization for deciding which patients will be allotted medical treatment as there "are now simply too many patients for each one of them to receive adequate care." The short version is that intensive care and ventilation machines should be prioritized for the young and healthy who have the best chance of recovery and the most years of life ahead of them. This recommendation applies to anyone who needs intensive care for any medical condition, not just for those with COVID-19, as those patients are competing for the same resources.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/03/who-gets-hospital-bed/607807/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=atlantic-daily-newsletter&utm_content=20200311&silverid-ref=MzEwMTkxNDc1NDIwS0
For countries where the virus has not yet reached the point of overwhelming medical resources, it would seem to be a moral imperative for everyone to do whatever they can to slow the spread of the virus through good hygiene, social distancing, and obviously self-quarantining if you're not feeling well or have been exposed to someone with the virus. If the curve can be flattened, so that the cases can be spread out over a longer period of time, and fewer people have the virus at any one time, there will be less necessity to decide which patients get good medical care, and which ones are allowed to die.
Obviously we can't all stop everything and hole up in our homes indefinitely, but every little bit helps. I hate thinking about all the small businesses losing customers, and I actually went out to eat last weekend, but the rate at which it is spreading in the U.S. seems to be comparable to what happened in Italy, so I think I will be sticking to home this weekend. We had a mild winter, so I never used the stuff I stocked up on in case of a big snow storm.11 -
JRsLateInLifeMom wrote: »Think Amazon like here doesn’t have a store everywhere but a weeks worth isn’t bad if it’s all you got.
Walmart.com available in Texas in my location no problem but Chef Barbell says not in Queens NY. Guess you got to check your area for what you can find to what types of delivery is available .
I noticed one site MFP recommendation for wouldn’t send to Texas. Lots here are using it tho from other states. Another MFP sends to Texas but not California.
If you find what works for your state post might help another one of us out in the same state.
Been watching Dr John he updates info he finds is a Doctor in Australia if I remember right. So might not align with your country 100% unless you live there.Gives insite on what the Docs are seeing to what that particular country is trying or doing.
That's Dr. John Campbell, a professor who instructs nurses, and he's in the UK. He is an excellent source of information.4 -
Travel ban to US from Europe for 30 days.. 😬3
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OKC Thunder game cancelled because Utah Jazz player has Corona. But the team was here, suited up, ready to play. Game was cancelled just before it started.
Is NBA suspending season? Our news is saying yes.
Our police escorted the Jazz in, so they are worried about spreading it to all our police force.
It’s official. OKC has a confirmed corona virus patient. The Jazz player, Rudy Gobert is under the care of an OKC Doctor.
Our state high school tournament games are supposed to start tomorrow afternoon. We don’t know how it will affect them.
Pearl Jam has cancelled their April date here.
Cher just now cancelled her concert here tomorrow night. Would have been in the same Arena as the basketball game, and she didn’t want people coming in to a germy Arena.
The Oklahoma county health department has gone to both teams to test other players.
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corinasue1143 wrote: »OKC Thunder game cancelled because Utah Jazz player has Corona. But the team was here, suited up, ready to play. Game was cancelled just before it started.
Is NBA suspending season? Our news is saying yes.
Our police escorted the Jazz in, so they are worried about spreading it to all our police force.
Yep, both teams are now quarantined and the NBA suspended the season until further notice. Yikes3 -
I just saw on the news Tom Hanks and his wife have both tested positive for Covid-19.5
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lynn_glenmont wrote: »corinasue1143 wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »CupcakeCrusoe wrote: »tinkerbellang83 wrote: »Been lurking in this thread for a couple of days, thought I'd drop in the latest from Ireland. At the time of writing we have around 34 confirmed cases in the Republic (South of Ireland) and there are further cases in Northern Ireland (which fall under the UK's stats).
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Schools and universities are open as normal. There has been no overall ban on large gatherings. There was a huge unnecessary political debate between the IRFU and the Minister for Health about the cancellation of the Six Nations Ireland v Italy game, with noone initially wanting to take responsibility for the cancellation of the game. The St Patrick's parades were going to go ahead, then they weren't, then they were and now have finally been cancelled.
Panic buying seems to be a bit hit and miss, some commuter towns have absolutely no toilet roll, pasta, etc on the shelves but city centre supermarkets are pretty quiet compared to normal with full stocks of everything.
I keep a mild interest in the media around it for work purposes (I deal with international travel for our employees) but I get most of my facts and figures from this site, which deals mostly in just stats without the fear-mongering sensationalist headlines. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ and keep an eye on major airlines sites such as Cathay Pacific to see what the story is with current travel restrictions.
I am not in the panic stage myself, I have some meals prepped in the chest freezer, adequate normal supplies of cleaning products and consumables, as I normally buy large packs anyway to cut down on plastic waste. I am of the opinion that it is here now, it is going to affect us all at some stage whether directly or indirectly, we can just do our best to minimise the risk to ourselves and to those around us by practicing good hygiene, sensible risk assessment and doing what we can to maximise the effectiveness of the immune system through decent sleep, healthy diet, exercise, etc.
Just heard: now we know it is bad because the St. Patrick's Day Parade in Chicago was just cancelled. The New York one, which has been held every year since 1762, so far is still happening. If they shut that one down, we know the Apocalypse is upon us.
Or, perhaps, if the New York one is not cancelled, that decision will bring the Apocalypse upon us.
(^^^ Intended as a wry, dark-humor joke. Clearly, authorities' role in managing large-attendance events is a serious consideration when it comes to the spread of the virus, and each decision is nuanced and specific. I hope they are well-advised by true experts. While I think authorities are capable of bad decisions (of course), I think it's much more common for some non-experts' "gut feelings" (mistaken for reasoning or common sense) to be less functional than the reasoning of experts who've studied and worked in a field for years to decades, and for some of those non-experts to trumpet their views, arrogantly, as more true and sensible than the eggheads'. Possible? Sure. Likely? No.)
No matter what decision they make it will be judged in hindsight like many of the other decisions have been. It is always easy to know what the right choice is/was if you know the outcome. It might always seem like erring on the side of caution is prudent but if we all did that we would be permanently paralyzed because there is no safe. How many people in lock down areas will die in their homes alone because they were not in public when they had a medical emergency like a heart attack or stroke?
Owning my disagree. I think that avoiding massive crowds during a known and named pandemic is not excessively cautious.
And wherever they get the funds from, if no one comes because of fear of crowds, it will have been a waste of money.
My opinion is obviously to cancel big and crowded events.
The governor of Washington has mandated this as of an hour and a half ago.
Gatherings larger than 250.
Oklahoma university board of regents had a meeting today to discuss the possibility of closing campus and having on-line classes after spring break.
Update: they have just announced they won’t decide by themselves. They are talking with OSU officials, Health sciences Center, the health department and others. It will be a joint decision when it is made.
Harvard, Yale, Amherst, University of Maryland have all already made this call (send students home, continue with online classes for at least a week or the rest of the semester, depending on the school). There are probably others I've missed.
UVA announced this as well today. Asking students to go home.0 -
Tom hanks y wife positive for the virus 🦠 link https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/11/business/media/tom-hanks-coronavirus.html
NBA Utah Positive for the virus 🦠 player https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/11/sports/basketball/nba-season-postponed-coronavirus.html3 -
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OK, so I keep hearing about this apocalyptic toilet paper shortage going on. Every time I go to the store lately I keep expecting to see empty shelves and rampaging mobs. I haven't seen any of that where I live in Southern California. I've been to both regular grocery stores and club stores. Plenty of supplies on the shelves. No crazed crowds in sight. It's been pretty chill as far as I can see...so far...
P.S. I actually need to get toilet paper soon. Not for hoarding purposes - just for wiping. But I feel a little self-conscious buying it right now. Don't want to spark a panic or get accused of stockpiling.
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Job layoffs for some already in fields of travel to airlines https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/03/11/layoffs-coronavirus/
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Jenill1 - shortage of certain foods to supplies is still only effecting certain areas in the USA. Your lucky if your shelf’s are all full. Some of us are struggling to find certain items..some can’t find certain items at all now.
It’s not every state or area of a state with issues. It’s some.2 -
Nba suspends games until further notice .
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/28887560/nba-suspends-season-further-notice-player-tests-positive-coronavirus4 -
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singingflutelady wrote: »
Yeah kinda strange.. wondering why.. oh yeah.. brexit . 😂5 -
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moonangel12 wrote: »
Agree. I admire them for being honest and sharing their status so matter of factly.
They are hospitalised very close to where I live and many people I know went to Rita's speaking event.4 -
lynn_glenmont wrote: »corinasue1143 wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »CupcakeCrusoe wrote: »tinkerbellang83 wrote: »Been lurking in this thread for a couple of days, thought I'd drop in the latest from Ireland. At the time of writing we have around 34 confirmed cases in the Republic (South of Ireland) and there are further cases in Northern Ireland (which fall under the UK's stats).
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Schools and universities are open as normal. There has been no overall ban on large gatherings. There was a huge unnecessary political debate between the IRFU and the Minister for Health about the cancellation of the Six Nations Ireland v Italy game, with noone initially wanting to take responsibility for the cancellation of the game. The St Patrick's parades were going to go ahead, then they weren't, then they were and now have finally been cancelled.
Panic buying seems to be a bit hit and miss, some commuter towns have absolutely no toilet roll, pasta, etc on the shelves but city centre supermarkets are pretty quiet compared to normal with full stocks of everything.
I keep a mild interest in the media around it for work purposes (I deal with international travel for our employees) but I get most of my facts and figures from this site, which deals mostly in just stats without the fear-mongering sensationalist headlines. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ and keep an eye on major airlines sites such as Cathay Pacific to see what the story is with current travel restrictions.
I am not in the panic stage myself, I have some meals prepped in the chest freezer, adequate normal supplies of cleaning products and consumables, as I normally buy large packs anyway to cut down on plastic waste. I am of the opinion that it is here now, it is going to affect us all at some stage whether directly or indirectly, we can just do our best to minimise the risk to ourselves and to those around us by practicing good hygiene, sensible risk assessment and doing what we can to maximise the effectiveness of the immune system through decent sleep, healthy diet, exercise, etc.
Just heard: now we know it is bad because the St. Patrick's Day Parade in Chicago was just cancelled. The New York one, which has been held every year since 1762, so far is still happening. If they shut that one down, we know the Apocalypse is upon us.
Or, perhaps, if the New York one is not cancelled, that decision will bring the Apocalypse upon us.
(^^^ Intended as a wry, dark-humor joke. Clearly, authorities' role in managing large-attendance events is a serious consideration when it comes to the spread of the virus, and each decision is nuanced and specific. I hope they are well-advised by true experts. While I think authorities are capable of bad decisions (of course), I think it's much more common for some non-experts' "gut feelings" (mistaken for reasoning or common sense) to be less functional than the reasoning of experts who've studied and worked in a field for years to decades, and for some of those non-experts to trumpet their views, arrogantly, as more true and sensible than the eggheads'. Possible? Sure. Likely? No.)
No matter what decision they make it will be judged in hindsight like many of the other decisions have been. It is always easy to know what the right choice is/was if you know the outcome. It might always seem like erring on the side of caution is prudent but if we all did that we would be permanently paralyzed because there is no safe. How many people in lock down areas will die in their homes alone because they were not in public when they had a medical emergency like a heart attack or stroke?
Owning my disagree. I think that avoiding massive crowds during a known and named pandemic is not excessively cautious.
And wherever they get the funds from, if no one comes because of fear of crowds, it will have been a waste of money.
My opinion is obviously to cancel big and crowded events.
The governor of Washington has mandated this as of an hour and a half ago.
Gatherings larger than 250.
Oklahoma university board of regents had a meeting today to discuss the possibility of closing campus and having on-line classes after spring break.
Update: they have just announced they won’t decide by themselves. They are talking with OSU officials, Health sciences Center, the health department and others. It will be a joint decision when it is made.
Harvard, Yale, Amherst, University of Maryland have all already made this call (send students home, continue with online classes for at least a week or the rest of the semester, depending on the school). There are probably others I've missed.
UVA announced this as well today. Asking students to go home.
The larger universities here in Michigan (Michigan State, U of M, Tech, Wayne State, Oakland, others) are moving to online only classes. I'm most familiar with Michigan State (couple miles from me); they're asking students to go to their permanent homes if feasible, but keeping facilities open for those who can't (large international student contingent there).
Still at a couple of confirmed cases in the state, last report I read.
ETA: At Costco today, TP out, facial tissue out, bottled water very depleted. At Kroger, TP out, facial tissue very nearly out (bought some myself, but normal restock not stockpiling), bottled water out.2
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