Coronavirus prep
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Someone I know had Covid in Jan & still says things taste like soap. Yuck!1
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Not sure it's covid related - had my round with covid a couple months ago, and recovered like normal. No lingering symptoms. Then last week had a very mild virus - like, a canker sore, very slight congestion (like had to blow my nose in the morning and a few times during the day) - then it was clearing up and noticed a metallic taste in my mouth. Now my sense of taste is greatly diminished - smell is not though (from my new normal anyways) only taste. Sweet, salty, sour all very diminished. Food just tastes - bland more than anything. Once I'm not overtly hungry I have no desire to keep eating despite how good something smelled and I wanted to eat it.
Some tastes coming through - sitting here with a cup of lemon ginger tea (no sugar added) and can taste that in full - but my coffee tasted black this morning even though my normal creamer was in there....I think I want things, then they have no flavor and I'm just "meh" about them.
Might make intuitive eating very possible though LOL!
Could be a million things - but just odd. I hadn't bothered taking a covid test since I just had that...4 -
HoneyBadger302 wrote: »Not sure it's covid related - had my round with covid a couple months ago, and recovered like normal. No lingering symptoms. Then last week had a very mild virus - like, a canker sore, very slight congestion (like had to blow my nose in the morning and a few times during the day) - then it was clearing up and noticed a metallic taste in my mouth. Now my sense of taste is greatly diminished - smell is not though (from my new normal anyways) only taste. Sweet, salty, sour all very diminished. Food just tastes - bland more than anything. Once I'm not overtly hungry I have no desire to keep eating despite how good something smelled and I wanted to eat it.
Some tastes coming through - sitting here with a cup of lemon ginger tea (no sugar added) and can taste that in full - but my coffee tasted black this morning even though my normal creamer was in there....I think I want things, then they have no flavor and I'm just "meh" about them.
Might make intuitive eating very possible though LOL!
Could be a million things - but just odd. I hadn't bothered taking a covid test since I just had that...
Not sure how long “a couple of months ago” is, but immunity after COVID only last about 90 days. And if it’s a different variant, potentially not even that long.
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I'm receiving my tweaked vax in a few days. The hair of the dog cures the bite. 🥰 Here's to a good hair day for everyone.3
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Tested negative and been free of symptoms for two days. According to local rules I still need to stay in today and tomorrow. As it was raining and I wasn't expecting people on the street at this time I went on a very short walk outside, and fell into a short, slow run for some 500m. All went well, no big problems. Well, I noticed I'm not completely well as I was sweating more than I was expecting. Might also be related to wearing far too many clothes, mind. Guess I got lucky.6
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My parents are seeing an upsurge in their circle of people. One friend went to the clinic while positive wearing a mask. He was surprised the nurse wasn't wearing one, she said she has had it 5 times. Then the doctor, no mask, said he's had it 4 times.
Mom fell and fractured ribs last month. Coughing still hurts so she is extra diligent to not catch it.5 -
My parents are seeing an upsurge in their circle of people. One friend went to the clinic while positive wearing a mask. He was surprised the nurse wasn't wearing one, she said she has had it 5 times. Then the doctor, no mask, said he's had it 4 times.
Mom fell and fractured ribs last month. Coughing still hurts so she is extra diligent to not catch it.
Huh, here in Massachusetts masks are still required for everyone in a health care setting, which includes places like my Mom's eye doctor and physical therapy.3 -
Alatariel75 wrote: »So I had the 'rona in late July, knocked me out for about 10 days and took most of August to start feeling "normal". Then around 2 weeks ago, I started feeling like I had it again, exactly the same symptoms. Kept testing negative, for 'rona and everything else, but it was all back - the cough, the exhaustion, the razor throat, the huge dizziness on coughing (which I've not had before 'rona), the headaches and fatigue. I still haven't kicked it, I can function but I'm definitely not well again. It's so frustrating. I don't know if it's some other virus or long Covid or what.
Did you get the anti-viral meds? There are a lot of rebound cases in people who get the anti-virals. I don't know what the percentage is, but it seems to be fairly common.0 -
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My massive respect from corona, apart from reading tweets from epidomiologists stems from catching a likely flu virus a few years ago. I never felt so sick! Then it finally got better. And 2 days later got a new fever flareup for 2 days, and this whole thing continued for another two weeks. When I went on summer vacation when this was over (Phew, lucky!) I wasn't able to get up the stairs to my holiday home. 4 steps! I wanted to climb a mountain in the area. Yeah. Right. Took me months to get better again.8
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Yay, I realized I can get the new Pfizer vaccine via my employer. No need to convince anyone to give it to me. I just get it
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spiriteagle99 wrote: »Alatariel75 wrote: »So I had the 'rona in late July, knocked me out for about 10 days and took most of August to start feeling "normal". Then around 2 weeks ago, I started feeling like I had it again, exactly the same symptoms. Kept testing negative, for 'rona and everything else, but it was all back - the cough, the exhaustion, the razor throat, the huge dizziness on coughing (which I've not had before 'rona), the headaches and fatigue. I still haven't kicked it, I can function but I'm definitely not well again. It's so frustrating. I don't know if it's some other virus or long Covid or what.
Did you get the anti-viral meds? There are a lot of rebound cases in people who get the anti-virals. I don't know what the percentage is, but it seems to be fairly common.
Nope, I wasn't eligible apparently. I'm still trying to kick the cough!!9 -
Hey all, been away from MFP as I have been on self destruct for months. Anyhow, paid for the new premium service so maybe that will help me get my act back together.
Did a quick skim over the past month+ of comments.
As for new omicron being more like the flu, when I ended up getting it (first time) in June, i had the unrelenting soar throat, but also body aches. first part sounds like the old omicron, the aches sound like the new. any further insights?
Got the Bivalent Pfiser Sept 20. Felt like crap the next day. More strikingly, I believe it set off stomach pain/gerd for a week+. Was very odd. Hubby also felt lousy, as well as DD.
Got my Flu shot yesterday. Last night, went online to schedule my second shingles and I noticed that vaccination schedules are now swamped. Very different from what I saw when I scheduled my Bivalent and my Flu shots. So people are now actively booking some sort of shots. The only reason I could easily book an appointment is we moved and now live next to a town, in which the residents are not getting vaccinated, and I can practically get same day appointments.
on another note, zero reaction to the flu shot, but have heard rumors about 2nd shingrex. Kind of dreading it.3 -
I'm having a Covid disagreement with my husband.
We have a milestone wedding anniversary next year, and I want to plan a trip overseas. He thinks it is too risky to plan a trip this far in advance, because he's worried about new variants that evade vaccines. He keeps sending me articles about the next variant that is said to be emerging in Europe this fall.
I contend that we are not taking much of a greater risk going on a trip than we would be staying at home. The 7-hour plane trip would be our greatest exposure. Other than that, we would be renting a car, staying in AirBnBs, and doing a lot of outdoor activities, like hiking. I'm not talking about a cruise or staying at a crowded resort or anything like that.
In our everyday lives, we both work jobs where we encounter a lot of people, we go to family parties, we go to restaurants, we go to theatres. What in the world is the difference if we drive around a European country for 10 days?
Covid will never go away. There will always be new variants, there will always be cases. Are we never going to go anywhere ever again?
Sorry for the rant.11 -
SuzySunshine99 wrote: »I'm having a Covid disagreement with my husband.
We have a milestone wedding anniversary next year, and I want to plan a trip overseas. He thinks it is too risky to plan a trip this far in advance, because he's worried about new variants that evade vaccines. He keeps sending me articles about the next variant that is said to be emerging in Europe this fall.
I contend that we are not taking much of a greater risk going on a trip than we would be staying at home. The 7-hour plane trip would be our greatest exposure. Other than that, we would be renting a car, staying in AirBnBs, and doing a lot of outdoor activities, like hiking. I'm not talking about a cruise or staying at a crowded resort or anything like that.
In our everyday lives, we both work jobs where we encounter a lot of people, we go to family parties, we go to restaurants, we go to theatres. What in the world is the difference if we drive around a European country for 10 days?
Covid will never go away. There will always be new variants, there will always be cases. Are we never going to go anywhere ever again?
Sorry for the rant.
I'll think that you'll find that COVID tends to "calm down" over the summer months. I live in Italy, and our numbers are less then. Plan a late Spring or Summer trip. Yes, we need to learn to live with this. Congratulations.2 -
It was going to be mid-May. It should not be bad then, but I can’t convince him of that. He’s a worst-case-scenario kind of guy.3
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SuzySunshine99 wrote: »I'm having a Covid disagreement with my husband.
We have a milestone wedding anniversary next year, and I want to plan a trip overseas. He thinks it is too risky to plan a trip this far in advance, because he's worried about new variants that evade vaccines. He keeps sending me articles about the next variant that is said to be emerging in Europe this fall.
I contend that we are not taking much of a greater risk going on a trip than we would be staying at home. The 7-hour plane trip would be our greatest exposure. Other than that, we would be renting a car, staying in AirBnBs, and doing a lot of outdoor activities, like hiking. I'm not talking about a cruise or staying at a crowded resort or anything like that.
In our everyday lives, we both work jobs where we encounter a lot of people, we go to family parties, we go to restaurants, we go to theatres. What in the world is the difference if we drive around a European country for 10 days?
Covid will never go away. There will always be new variants, there will always be cases. Are we never going to go anywhere ever again?
Sorry for the rant.
I think living as close to normal as possible for our mental health, which is important too! Hubby and I have booked a tour of Scotland for fall 2023 for our 40th. We are just making sure of the insurance we have for international travel.
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@SuzySunshine99 I respect the disagreement and it is a valid conversation for sure. I'll zoom right in on the point of the plane being the most dangerous part. I got my 4th booster 2 weeks before a trip to Italy hoping to be "peak antibody" for the trip. Trip was great, mostly rural places, walking town to town, no public transpo. Except flights. 2 days after my 11.5 hr flight home, I had a sudden sore throat onset (covid test neg). Next day fever & flu test came back covid positive. I definitely suspect the packed flight where no one wore masks, including me. Wish I had worn one. On a similar trip 2021 everyone DID wear masks on the flights and public transpo, and we were fine. Requirements for certified covid test documents to enter countries in 2021 probably helped keep sick people off planes! FWIW, I would weigh in on the side of going and being more careful than I was about masking on the plane.
@SModa61 I was intimidated by everything I heard about Shingrix#2, too. It was uncomfortable, but not nearly as bad as shingles. Schedule it so that you don't have obligations to see to 12-36 hours after the shot. Give yourself that break so if you do feel bad you can just lay low.5 -
The previous boosters were only effective for a month or two. Does anyone know how long the protection lasts from the bi-valent shot?0
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SuzySunshine99 wrote: »I'm having a Covid disagreement with my husband.
We have a milestone wedding anniversary next year, and I want to plan a trip overseas. He thinks it is too risky to plan a trip this far in advance, because he's worried about new variants that evade vaccines. He keeps sending me articles about the next variant that is said to be emerging in Europe this fall.
I contend that we are not taking much of a greater risk going on a trip than we would be staying at home. The 7-hour plane trip would be our greatest exposure. Other than that, we would be renting a car, staying in AirBnBs, and doing a lot of outdoor activities, like hiking. I'm not talking about a cruise or staying at a crowded resort or anything like that.
In our everyday lives, we both work jobs where we encounter a lot of people, we go to family parties, we go to restaurants, we go to theatres. What in the world is the difference if we drive around a European country for 10 days?
Covid will never go away. There will always be new variants, there will always be cases. Are we never going to go anywhere ever again?
Sorry for the rant.
To me, the issue isn't that your chances of getting covid are greater from the vacation than from your everyday life. To me, the issue is that the consequences of getting covid are greater during a vacation. Will the place you're traveling to require retesting after you land, and quarantining while you wait for results? Tough to know this far ahead.
I'd be worried about spending money to travel overseas, testing positive (whether due to mandatory testing or becoming symptomatic), spending most of your vacation quarantining, possibly having to push back your return date, spend extra money on a hotel that you hadn't even planned because you have to spend extra time in quarantine beyond your original travel plans, missing work (if you can't work remotely from overseas but could if your were home quarantining).
I actually turned down an invitation for free lodging this summer with relatives in a country I would have liked to visit because I didn't want to risk getting stuck overseas longer than I planned -- plus not crazy about the idea of spending money on air fare just to end up quarantining.
But it's tough to see multiple years go by and feel like you can't travel. Maybe see if your husband would be willing to revisit the issue a little closer to the travel time? You could still do research and make plans short of booking. Maybe if you involve him in the planning for a potential trip, the two of you could figure out which things bother him most and any options that might ease his anxiety.
Edited to delete a snippet of a post I started writing weeks ago and decided to discard, which apparently isn't a thing you can do anymore. Thanks, MFP.4 -
lynn_glenmont wrote: »SuzySunshine99 wrote: »I'm having a Covid disagreement with my husband.
We have a milestone wedding anniversary next year, and I want to plan a trip overseas. He thinks it is too risky to plan a trip this far in advance, because he's worried about new variants that evade vaccines. He keeps sending me articles about the next variant that is said to be emerging in Europe this fall.
I contend that we are not taking much of a greater risk going on a trip than we would be staying at home. The 7-hour plane trip would be our greatest exposure. Other than that, we would be renting a car, staying in AirBnBs, and doing a lot of outdoor activities, like hiking. I'm not talking about a cruise or staying at a crowded resort or anything like that.
In our everyday lives, we both work jobs where we encounter a lot of people, we go to family parties, we go to restaurants, we go to theatres. What in the world is the difference if we drive around a European country for 10 days?
Covid will never go away. There will always be new variants, there will always be cases. Are we never going to go anywhere ever again?
Sorry for the rant.
To me, the issue isn't that your chances of getting covid are greater from the vacation than from your everyday life. To me, the issue is that the consequences of getting covid are greater during a vacation. Will the place you're traveling to require retesting after you land, and quarantining while you wait for results? Tough to know this far ahead.
I'd be worried about spending money to travel overseas, testing positive (whether due to mandatory testing or becoming symptomatic), spending most of your vacation quarantining, possibly having to push back your return date, spend extra money on a hotel that you hadn't even planned because you have to spend extra time in quarantine beyond your original travel plans, missing work (if you can't work remotely from overseas but could if your were home quarantining).
I actually turned down an invitation for free lodging this summer with relatives in a country I would have liked to visit because I didn't want to risk getting stuck overseas longer than I planned -- plus not crazy about the idea of spending money on air fare just to end up quarantining.
But it's tough to see multiple years go by and feel like you can't travel. Maybe see if your husband would be willing to revisit the issue a little closer to the travel time? You could still do research and make plans short of booking. Maybe if you involve him in the planning for a potential trip, the two of you could figure out which things bother him most and any options that might ease his anxiety.
Edited to delete a snippet of a post I started writing weeks ago and decided to discard, which apparently isn't a thing you can do anymore. Thanks, MFP.
That's true that it would ruin an expensive trip if either or both of us became ill while on the trip. Currently, there are no testing or quarantine requirements where we want to go, or for returning to the US, but things could always change.
My husband's main concern is actually getting COVID, not just the hassle and expense of getting covid while on vacation. He is convinced that everyone who gets covid has long-term issues and will die an early death.
I involved my husband in all the research I was doing, and he was all-in at first. But once I told him I had everything lined up, ready to book, then he balked.
My main point to him was that we will always be dealing with covid as a possibility. It's always going to be around, so we need to take reasonable precautions and still live our lives.
At this point, I'm going to let it go. Even if I were to convince him that we should go, it would cause him anxiety and stress for the next 6 months. I don't want that...a trip, especially one meant to celebrate our anniversary, should be something we are looking forward to, not dreading.
I'll keep the research that I've done and maybe someday, we can do this trip.
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When the mask requirement went away, I've been continuing to wear a high quality (KF94) mask on flights. Right after the mask mandate on airlines was lifted, I was on a flight where the three children across the aisle sounded like they had a bad cold and were coughing all over the place without even bothering to cover their mouths. I still don't want your *kitten* cold or flu.@SuzySunshine99 I respect the disagreement and it is a valid conversation for sure. I'll zoom right in on the point of the plane being the most dangerous part. I got my 4th booster 2 weeks before a trip to Italy hoping to be "peak antibody" for the trip. Trip was great, mostly rural places, walking town to town, no public transpo. Except flights. 2 days after my 11.5 hr flight home, I had a sudden sore throat onset (covid test neg). Next day fever & flu test came back covid positive. I definitely suspect the packed flight where no one wore masks, including me. Wish I had worn one. On a similar trip 2021 everyone DID wear masks on the flights and public transpo, and we were fine. Requirements for certified covid test documents to enter countries in 2021 probably helped keep sick people off planes! FWIW, I would weigh in on the side of going and being more careful than I was about masking on the plane.
@SModa61 I was intimidated by everything I heard about Shingrix#2, too. It was uncomfortable, but not nearly as bad as shingles. Schedule it so that you don't have obligations to see to 12-36 hours after the shot. Give yourself that break so if you do feel bad you can just lay low.
I have an flight overseas for a vacation coming up, and even though it's a long flight (12+ hours) I will probably still mask up. I'm not afraid of COVID, but I don't want a LONG awaited vacation ruined by feeling ill or having to quarantine. I did get my bivalent booster a couple weeks back to minimize any chances of getting ill before or during the trip.
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SuzySunshine99 wrote: »I'm having a Covid disagreement with my husband.
We have a milestone wedding anniversary next year, and I want to plan a trip overseas. He thinks it is too risky to plan a trip this far in advance, because he's worried about new variants that evade vaccines. He keeps sending me articles about the next variant that is said to be emerging in Europe this fall.
I contend that we are not taking much of a greater risk going on a trip than we would be staying at home. The 7-hour plane trip would be our greatest exposure. Other than that, we would be renting a car, staying in AirBnBs, and doing a lot of outdoor activities, like hiking. I'm not talking about a cruise or staying at a crowded resort or anything like that.
In our everyday lives, we both work jobs where we encounter a lot of people, we go to family parties, we go to restaurants, we go to theatres. What in the world is the difference if we drive around a European country for 10 days?
Covid will never go away. There will always be new variants, there will always be cases. Are we never going to go anywhere ever again?
Sorry for the rant.
I'd be more concerned about flight cancellations, inability to get rental cars, etc due to supply chain issues.
We just did a 2 week driving vacation of New England. Have more control over your destiny.6 -
Flight cancelations can work both ways, us unable to get over to you. I've not heard of any supply issues in our rental, car hire fleets. (I'm sure everyone knows more than I, they always assume they do). I know one hour has become a very long time in our UK news stream these days but please do not write us off just yet.3
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Flight cancelations can work both ways, us unable to get over to you. I've not heard of any supply issues in our rental, car hire fleets. (I'm sure everyone knows more than I, they always assume they do). I know one hour has become a very long time in our UK news stream these days but please do not write us off just yet.
The UK isn't in Europe anymore so she wasn't talking about you
(Yes, I know there is a difference between the EU and Europe
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lynn_glenmont wrote: »SuzySunshine99 wrote: »I'm having a Covid disagreement with my husband.
We have a milestone wedding anniversary next year, and I want to plan a trip overseas. He thinks it is too risky to plan a trip this far in advance, because he's worried about new variants that evade vaccines. He keeps sending me articles about the next variant that is said to be emerging in Europe this fall.
I contend that we are not taking much of a greater risk going on a trip than we would be staying at home. The 7-hour plane trip would be our greatest exposure. Other than that, we would be renting a car, staying in AirBnBs, and doing a lot of outdoor activities, like hiking. I'm not talking about a cruise or staying at a crowded resort or anything like that.
In our everyday lives, we both work jobs where we encounter a lot of people, we go to family parties, we go to restaurants, we go to theatres. What in the world is the difference if we drive around a European country for 10 days?
Covid will never go away. There will always be new variants, there will always be cases. Are we never going to go anywhere ever again?
Sorry for the rant.
To me, the issue isn't that your chances of getting covid are greater from the vacation than from your everyday life. To me, the issue is that the consequences of getting covid are greater during a vacation. Will the place you're traveling to require retesting after you land, and quarantining while you wait for results? Tough to know this far ahead.
I'd be worried about spending money to travel overseas, testing positive (whether due to mandatory testing or becoming symptomatic), spending most of your vacation quarantining, possibly having to push back your return date, spend extra money on a hotel that you hadn't even planned because you have to spend extra time in quarantine beyond your original travel plans, missing work (if you can't work remotely from overseas but could if your were home quarantining).
I actually turned down an invitation for free lodging this summer with relatives in a country I would have liked to visit because I didn't want to risk getting stuck overseas longer than I planned -- plus not crazy about the idea of spending money on air fare just to end up quarantining.
But it's tough to see multiple years go by and feel like you can't travel. Maybe see if your husband would be willing to revisit the issue a little closer to the travel time? You could still do research and make plans short of booking. Maybe if you involve him in the planning for a potential trip, the two of you could figure out which things bother him most and any options that might ease his anxiety.
Well said.
That said, I am a horribilizer. My partner is a minimizer.3 -
On the subject of travel abroad from the US, and what happens if you get Covid there: Maybe get the travel insurance (even if you usually don't), and make sure it covers Covid scenarios.
I have close friends who traveled to Europe for one of those river cruises, and tested positive for Covid a few days into the trip. The cruise line was very helpful in finding them a good hotel for isolation with good services, fortunately . . . but it wasn't cheap. They had to stay several days longer there than originally planned, too. Their travel insurance covered the unplanned costs.
Also fortunately, they didn't get terribly ill, just unpleasantly ill. They're in their 70s, but generally fairly healthy, and were fully vaxed/boosted. The hotel brought them meals (left at door), and checked in routinely to see what else they needed. It could've been worse, but it was expensive. The travel insurance was a godsend, though there was bureaucracy around the claim (needed all the receipts and documentation).7 -
Our of curiosity, what are the current isolation requirements in everyone's part of the world at the moment? Here in Victoria, Australia (and I think the rest of the country but I won't swear up to it), they've done away with mandatory isolation and the only restrictions on what you can do if positive is not visit aged and disability care facilities and hospitals, unless seeking immediate medical care. Lot's of workplaces are still requiring you not come in if covid positive, or showing symptoms, however.
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My question is...does anyone foresee international travel being any less of a risk in the coming years? Of course, we don't know for sure, but based on how the virus has behaved, this is not going away anytime soon. I personally think it will always be around in some form.
Are we always going to say, "Well, what if...?" At what point will it be an acceptable risk...like the risk that the weather will be bad, or your flight will be cancelled, or your car breaks down, or you get hurt, or you get sick with any illness?
Traveling is full of risks; it always has been. Travel insurance is a must on an expensive trip. I just, personally, am sick of staying close to home. I can only do so many Wisconsin road trips. I've eaten too much cheese and bratwurst.
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SuzySunshine99 wrote: »My question is...does anyone foresee international travel being any less of a risk in the coming years? Of course, we don't know for sure, but based on how the virus has behaved, this is not going away anytime soon. I personally think it will always be around in some form.
Are we always going to say, "Well, what if...?" At what point will it be an acceptable risk...like the risk that the weather will be bad, or your flight will be cancelled, or your car breaks down, or you get hurt, or you get sick with any illness?
Traveling is full of risks; it always has been. Travel insurance is a must on an expensive trip. I just, personally, am sick of staying close to home. I can only do so many Wisconsin road trips. I've eaten too much cheese and bratwurst.
Honestly, I don't think I have any better or worse chance of getting it close to home versus overseas - my concerns with overseas travel is more the practicalities, like what if I get it and get too sick to be travelling, spend whole holiday in hospital, somehow don't have coverage (as careful as I am about insurance), get stuck overseas due to policies or some change in restrictions. I've travelled and gotten ill before but none of the illnesses I have caught travelling have ever been the subject of such worldwide restrictions and, dare I say it, panic as this one and that's what makes me nervous. But given that where I live has zero restrictions and has recently had one of the highest infection rates in the world (after some of the lowest, and some of the most full on lockdowns), while I'm not currently planning any overseas trips due to other considerations, when I do, I'm probably not going to worry about the Covid risk as long as my insurance will respond.3
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