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Low calorie or low carb what really works?

DMTlovesyou
DMTlovesyou Posts: 1 Member
Im so confused about what really is the best and healthiest way to eat for weight loss and health.
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  • psychod787
    psychod787 Posts: 4,099 Member
    Chicken or the egg... 🙄
  • lemurcat2
    lemurcat2 Posts: 7,885 Member
    Oh, it's a hot new thing. We've had a few threads about it.
  • lemurcat2
    lemurcat2 Posts: 7,885 Member
    lemurcat2 wrote: »
    Oh, it's a hot new thing. We've had a few threads about it.

    Some people just like to make things as difficult as possible! Apparently! 😂

    I’m waiting for the ‘Plant Based Carnivore Plan’ to hit the magazine covers!

    LOL
  • psychod787
    psychod787 Posts: 4,099 Member
    lemurcat2 wrote: »
    Oh, it's a hot new thing. We've had a few threads about it.

    Some people just like to make things as difficult as possible! Apparently! 😂

    I’m waiting for the ‘Plant Based Carnivore Plan’ to hit the magazine covers!

    Nothing but beyond burgers and soy chicken nuggets... I cringe...😩
  • J72FIT
    J72FIT Posts: 6,002 Member
    CI<CO for weight/fat loss.

    Variety, exercise, rest and recovery for health...
  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,865 Member
    Im so confused about what really is the best and healthiest way to eat for weight loss and health.

    Weight management is about calories (energy). When you consume fewer calories (less energy) than your body requires, you burn fat (stored energy) to make up for that deficiency. How you get there is up to you. Cutting carbs is one of many ways to reduce calorie intake. It also doesn't have to be "low" calories...your consumption just has to be less than you require to maintain the status quo. I lose about 1 Lb per week eating 2300-2500 calories for example...hardly "low" calorie...just lower than what I require to maintain my weight.
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    AnnPT77 wrote: »
    lemurcat2 wrote: »
    Oh, it's a hot new thing. We've had a few threads about it.

    Some people just like to make things as difficult as possible! Apparently! 😂

    I’m waiting for the ‘Plant Based Carnivore Plan’ to hit the magazine covers!

    (Warning: Cynic mode on.)

    I think it's just another instance of the sin and retribution model of weight loss. We got fat; we are bad people; we must suffer to expiate our sins; we must eat WFPB carnivore keto on an 23:45/00:15 intermittent fasting schedule cutting out all white foods, alcohol, and anything we personally think tastes good; while hitting the gym 6 hours a day to do HIIT and the heaviest possible lifting to failure!

    Lasts about 5 minutes, confirms sense of sin and failure, "fall off wagon" for a few months and eat/drink All The Things, . . . then rinse and repeat.

    (/cynic).

    Sigh.

    For clarity: No criticism of specific food regimens intended, to the extent that people find those regimens let them eat a well-rounded balanced diet in a way that's easier and pleasant for them. Or exercise regimens that are enjoyable, and provide some semi-rational route to health and fitness. It's the "suffer to pay for sin" model I'm railing about.

    It's this exactly I think. I also think there is an element of thinking that the average American diet is terrible, therefore the more different your diet is from the average, the better it is.
  • rhondafae
    rhondafae Posts: 1 Member
    While I've never posted here in all the time I've used MFP, I felt that I had to jump in, here. I started a Keto diet 10 days ago. It's easy, but expect to cook your own food, and make those WHOLE foods! Meals can be so simple...today I had a grilled center-cut pork chop and sauteed spinach. Grilled chicken wings are DIVINE and I find it easy to stay, "low carb". The one drawback is that while everything I eat now is delicious, my appetite has diminished to the point that I'm struggling to make my daily minimum. As a result, I've lost 8 lbs in ten days. My waistline has been the most dramatic change, although I typically lose weight from the top down. I do need to add that as it's springtime in southwest Mississippi, I have been working outside nearly every day, sometimes logging 19,000 steps a day. I'm probably not typical, but I feel fantastic with more energy than I know what to do with!

    But to answer your question, yes, CI/CO is the trick, however a low-carb diet will cause your appetite to decrease and while you'll eat healthier, you may struggle to take in enough calories. I've added multi-vitamins and drink only water or lemon-ginger tea. The first couple of days saw a few light cravings, but those passed after the first week. Hey, I can do ANYTHING for a week!

    I'd like to lose about 10 more lbs and once I accomplish that, re-introduce a few old favorites back into my diet such as a glass of wine or slice of bread. Even still, Keto will always be a part of my life, maybe a week out of every month just to make sure I don't go off the deep end.

    Good luck, you!

  • Avidkeo
    Avidkeo Posts: 3,206 Member
    rhondafae wrote: »
    While I've never posted here in all the time I've used MFP, I felt that I had to jump in, here. I started a Keto diet 10 days ago. It's easy, but expect to cook your own food, and make those WHOLE foods! Meals can be so simple...today I had a grilled center-cut pork chop and sauteed spinach. Grilled chicken wings are DIVINE and I find it easy to stay, "low carb". The one drawback is that while everything I eat now is delicious, my appetite has diminished to the point that I'm struggling to make my daily minimum. As a result, I've lost 8 lbs in ten days. My waistline has been the most dramatic change, although I typically lose weight from the top down. I do need to add that as it's springtime in southwest Mississippi, I have been working outside nearly every day, sometimes logging 19,000 steps a day. I'm probably not typical, but I feel fantastic with more energy than I know what to do with!

    But to answer your question, yes, CI/CO is the trick, however a low-carb diet will cause your appetite to decrease and while you'll eat healthier, you may struggle to take in enough calories. I've added multi-vitamins and drink only water or lemon-ginger tea. The first couple of days saw a few light cravings, but those passed after the first week. Hey, I can do ANYTHING for a week!

    I'd like to lose about 10 more lbs and once I accomplish that, re-introduce a few old favorites back into my diet such as a glass of wine or slice of bread. Even still, Keto will always be a part of my life, maybe a week out of every month just to make sure I don't go off the deep end.

    Good luck, you!

    But what is a whole food? A whole loaf of bread? A whole pumpkin? A whole head of lettuce? If I did that diet, I'd still be gaining weight!
  • psychod787
    psychod787 Posts: 4,099 Member
    Avidkeo wrote: »
    rhondafae wrote: »
    While I've never posted here in all the time I've used MFP, I felt that I had to jump in, here. I started a Keto diet 10 days ago. It's easy, but expect to cook your own food, and make those WHOLE foods! Meals can be so simple...today I had a grilled center-cut pork chop and sauteed spinach. Grilled chicken wings are DIVINE and I find it easy to stay, "low carb". The one drawback is that while everything I eat now is delicious, my appetite has diminished to the point that I'm struggling to make my daily minimum. As a result, I've lost 8 lbs in ten days. My waistline has been the most dramatic change, although I typically lose weight from the top down. I do need to add that as it's springtime in southwest Mississippi, I have been working outside nearly every day, sometimes logging 19,000 steps a day. I'm probably not typical, but I feel fantastic with more energy than I know what to do with!

    But to answer your question, yes, CI/CO is the trick, however a low-carb diet will cause your appetite to decrease and while you'll eat healthier, you may struggle to take in enough calories. I've added multi-vitamins and drink only water or lemon-ginger tea. The first couple of days saw a few light cravings, but those passed after the first week. Hey, I can do ANYTHING for a week!

    I'd like to lose about 10 more lbs and once I accomplish that, re-introduce a few old favorites back into my diet such as a glass of wine or slice of bread. Even still, Keto will always be a part of my life, maybe a week out of every month just to make sure I don't go off the deep end.

    Good luck, you!

    But what is a whole food? A whole loaf of bread? A whole pumpkin? A whole head of lettuce? If I did that diet, I'd still be gaining weight!

    Actually bread would fall under nova class 3. So, it's not exactly a "whole" food. If you ate a whole pumpkin with a whole head of lettuce, doubtful you would gain much body fat. Might gain weight and a little stomach discomfort though. I suggest to the poster that a whole foods low carb diet can, in many people, reduce appetite. So can a whole foods high carb vegan diet. Or a whole foods paleo...insert "diet" here. It's not magic.... we have seen in multiple studies, that a more whole foods based diet people generally spontaneously eat less... why? The mechanisms are still being worked out. Trouble I see with these diets are that the practitioners never learn how to flex when they need to.
  • psychod787
    psychod787 Posts: 4,099 Member
    kshama2001 wrote: »
    rhondafae wrote: »
    While I've never posted here in all the time I've used MFP, I felt that I had to jump in, here. I started a Keto diet 10 days ago. It's easy, but expect to cook your own food, and make those WHOLE foods! Meals can be so simple...today I had a grilled center-cut pork chop and sauteed spinach. Grilled chicken wings are DIVINE and I find it easy to stay, "low carb". The one drawback is that while everything I eat now is delicious, my appetite has diminished to the point that I'm struggling to make my daily minimum. As a result, I've lost 8 lbs in ten days. My waistline has been the most dramatic change, although I typically lose weight from the top down. I do need to add that as it's springtime in southwest Mississippi, I have been working outside nearly every day, sometimes logging 19,000 steps a day. I'm probably not typical, but I feel fantastic with more energy than I know what to do with!

    But to answer your question, yes, CI/CO is the trick, however a low-carb diet will cause your appetite to decrease and while you'll eat healthier, you may struggle to take in enough calories. I've added multi-vitamins and drink only water or lemon-ginger tea. The first couple of days saw a few light cravings, but those passed after the first week. Hey, I can do ANYTHING for a week!

    I'd like to lose about 10 more lbs and once I accomplish that, re-introduce a few old favorites back into my diet such as a glass of wine or slice of bread. Even still, Keto will always be a part of my life, maybe a week out of every month just to make sure I don't go off the deep end.

    Good luck, you!

    I'm glad you found something that works for you :)

    However, while low carb may have caused YOUR appetite to decrease, this is not universally true.

    For example, while I love fat, I don't find it especially satiating.

    I've never had such a high percentage of carbs in my life as when I was in Costa Rico, living on rice & beans, tropical fruit, and veggies. I had mangoes and bananas several times a day, every day. Never-the-less, I found this filling, effortlessly and unconsciously created a calorie deficit, and dropped a size without even trying.

    However, foods made from flour, like bread and pasta, I don't find filling at all, and can eat and eat and eat them.

    Kinda what I was getting at ma'am. 😉
  • JoeyTheWanderer
    JoeyTheWanderer Posts: 224 Member
    Calories in vs Calories out is how most people loose weight. Roughly 3500 calories is equivalent to a pound. If you have a 500 calorie deficit everyday; you would loose a pound per week.

    MFP calculates your calories based on basal metabolic rate + activity levels. BMR is your calorie expenditure at rest; based of your weight/age/height. Generally the heavier you are; the more you need to maintain.

    If you get meet your nutritional needs and have a deficit~ You will loose weight. If you don't~ Then you either haven't given it enough time ;have miscalculated in some manner or if all us fails you "Might" have a metabolic disorder that needs to be diagnosed by a doctor.




  • bmeadows380
    bmeadows380 Posts: 2,981 Member
    And to go along with what Anne says, there are a lot of different calculators out there that can give you different estimates - sometimes as much as 200-300 calories different, so finding that appropriate calorie intake to lose weight is definitely a process and shouldn't just automatically be assumed to not be working just because the initial calculated estimate is off.
  • pandaapo
    pandaapo Posts: 10 Member
    Low carb because more volume more satiety... also trying to eat every 3 hours( waiting more if ure not hugnry) works. but i love carby foods i have them too sometimes.