May 2020 Monthly Running Challenge

PastorVincent

TheMrWobbly wrote: »

Serious question on pace and HR which keeps coming up. Having finally decide to pay my $30 upgrade I get HR reports and I am apparently running at Z4 race pace around 60% of the time. Honestly my pace almost never varies, I am quite happy running at 9:30-10:30 a mile and this was my pace on all my runs up to 15 miles which is as far as I have gone so far. I tried slowing down though I seem to come back to around 10:00 without trying. Any thoughts?

First - unless you customized the HR Zones for yourself, they are probably wrong

Second - HR is more closely related to EFFORT than PACE. Weather, road conditions, elevation, slope, your level of recovery, distance, and the like all change the amount of EFFORT needed to hold a given pace on any given run.

Third - If you can hold a steady state at 10 min/mile without really trying for 15 miles, that is not your race pace for any distance 15 miles or less. But it might be for 15 miles and farther.

PastorVincent

marisap2010 wrote: »

@dreamer12151 I would definitely go to the doctor and have those headaches checked out!

I missed the post with the headaches in it, but had I read it I would surely agree! Call you doctor.

janejellyroll

@katharmonic Thank you for posting this. I had dedicated my 2.5 mile run to his memory today. As a woman, I have experienced worries about running in the dark or in especially remote areas. But it breaks my heart that a situation where it wouldn't even occur to me to be worried was fatal for this young man. Running should be for everyone.

5/1: 2m
5/2: 8m
5/3: 18m
5/4: 1.75m
5/5: 5m
5/6: 5m
5/7: 5m
5/8: 2.5m

skippygirlsmom

5/1 – 3
5/2 – 3
5/3 – 3
5/4 – 3
5/5 – 0
5/6 – 2
5/7 – 4
5/8 – 4

22 of 50 miles

@katharmonic today Skip and I ran 2.23 of our miles dedicated to Ahmaud Arbery. I’m glad they finally arrested them and charged them with murder. @mbaker566 the GA good old boy network there, how authorizes could watch that video and not immediate arrest them is beyond me

@Faebert I agree on the dog being alone all the time, our Macy is 9 and used to it and is a great chill dog, this nutcase needs more but they have each other when we go back to being able to go out.

Thanks @shanaber I didn’t think about agility that is a great idea for him. I know herding dogs need a job, there is a place here when things get back to normal we’ll take him. He ran out yesterday because Skip was taking Macy out and he got by her. He’s been good at not wanting to take off but I guess he thought I’m coming too. He went to the next street and he was like I don’t hear you calling me. But went right to her so that’s good. He’s smart and wants to learn he just needs to be taught.

I use Strava too

@Avidkeo just like when you take the car to the mechanic and it’s not making noise anymore.




Races:
Rona on the Run - Virtual for St. Jude benefit
Keep Moving Huntsville - at least one mile a day 1 - 31 May
Flora-Bama 600K - Virtual race from Huntsville AL to the Florida Alabama state line in Orange Beach

T1DCarnivoreRunner

@TheMrWobbly @mbaker566 Ok, fair enough. The targeted pace is for the first week of a 16 week plan (i.e. week 16) to run a 4:00 marathon. Mind you, this is an agressive improvement over my current PR of 4:38 (everything happened perfectly to even do that as I am normally around 5 hrs).

I was able to do the same run last week with the 2 miles at threshold in zone 5 (HR average 174) at 8:22 pace average. This week, I just couldn't reach the same speed. Part of the discouragement is because I was so much slower this week than last.

I'm trying to improve to a 4:00 marathon from my current PR and may not be able to do it this year at this point. A BQ for my AG is 3:05. After the cut-backs, I need to be close to 3:00 to actually run Boston. This is probably never going to happen.

shanaber

@katharmonic, @mbaker566, @skippygirlsmom - Like @janejellyroll I too have had a few times where, as a woman running alone, I have been concerned with someone following behind me, making comments or just acting weird. This is one reason I mostly run with Hobbes. I have never thought that I would go out, be chased by someone in a truck, shot and never make it home. Or that something like that could happen to my daughter. My heart breaks for his mom 💔
I too dedicated 2.23 miles of my run this morning in his honor/memory. No one should feel their life is at risk because they went out for a run. #justiceforahmaudarbery #runwithmaud #irunwithmaud

T1DCarnivoreRunner

Today, I ran 2.23 dedication for a runner who was killed doing what so many of us take for granted. #IRunWithMaud

Then I ran an additional 0.23 miles to get home.

Elise4270

dreamer12151 wrote: »

To fill y'all in:

Monday 4/27 - Ran 3 miles. Finished around 0930, headache started around noon, noon:30. Finally ended about Thursday (4/30) afternoon/evening. Over the weekend, no coughing or fever, but my body felt like it had been beat with baseball bats & dragged benhind the car. Canceled my blood donation appointment. Monday I felt a little better.

Tuesday 5/5 - Ran 1.5 miles. Ended about 9:15am, headache started about 2-3pm. .

I hope those headaches get better soon, er stay better. I had about 4 days of headaches not long ago. It followed 2 days of extreme tiredness. Then a few more days of mild headaches. I get migraines, stress, food, hormones, and seasonal allergies will trigger headaches for me, so I dismissed it as normal unless other symptoms appeared. Of course yours sounds like covid, so be wary of worsening or unrelenting symptoms. Rest up!

I just hate hearing about the young man that lost his life out on a run. I can’t bring myself to go read the article. All the potential a human being has and it’s spent tormenting others ... what the hell is wrong with people.

katharmonic

mbaker566 wrote: »

i've been posting about this on fb and instagram. someone also posted that we shouldn't forget the arrest didn't come when the officials saw the video but when we did. and the arrests alone are not enough.
i'm considering streaking until the father and son are (hopefully) convicted.
i'll be running tonight for him. we should all have a right to run safely

@mbaker566 that's exactly right - it's horrifying that it wasn't the video itself but the outrage of the public to the video that led to the arrests.

I hope all the support from runners helps in some way - at least to open the eyes of the public who may not have known about it.

Date :::: Miles :::: Cumulative
05/01/20 :::: 16.2 :::: 16.2
05/02/20 :::: 24.1 :::: 40.3
05/03/20 :::: 8.0 :::: 48.3
05/04/20 :::: 2.1 :::: 50.4
05/05/20 :::: 2.3 :::: 52.7
05/06/20 :::: 1.8 :::: 54.6
05/07/20 :::: 4.0 :::: 58.6
05/08/20 :::: 5.3 :::: 63.8

I did two runs today - this morning I did the 2.23 miles for Ahmaud. I ran at the parkway and it was chilly with the wind off the lake, but it's flat and open and I haven't been for a while. I really thought about Ahmaud while I ran it, and the fear he must have felt. I felt angry and sad and I pushed the pace and didn't let myself slack off. I ended up running a 9:19 second mile, which is definitely fast for me.

I had promised a friend I would meet her for a run later in the day, so I did a second run at about 4 pm. We took an easy loop around the lakes, which were not crowded for once because the weather was kind of crappy. It was 41 degrees and windy, and it started to snow a little. May. Snow. Thanks goodness it was just light flurries but there's a chance of a little more overnight.

Avidkeo

Hey all!

Well I'm back from my long run. 24k or 15 miles! It was awesome.
The morning started cold, 6 degrees C (42f). I had considered going out in a singlet and sleeves with my brand new merino gloves that arrived yesterday, but reasoned that it wouldn't warm up That quickly, and at the end of 2hrs it's still likely to be less than 10 degrees so I should probably wear my long sleeve top instead. I was wrong. As soon as the sun came up it got warm lol.

So I was running along our foreshore, which is 12k long. I decided to start in the middle, and do the "Hilly" bits first, and then the rest would be reasonably flat. Also by starting in the middle, if I decided to ditch I was no more than 6k from the car lol.

Started great. I was concentrating on keeping my pace slow and not going out too strong. I got to 6k and barely even felt much at all, it felt great. Actually I barely noticed that over half an hr had passed. At 12k I got a weird niggle in my right leg but after about half a km it eased up.

At this point the walkway was getting busier. I was starting to have to dodge a lot of surfers, cyclists, dog walkers and other runners. It was crazy! Fortunately as i passed the middle section, the people thinned out a bit.

As I approached my second turn around at 18k, I realised I was about half a km short of the distance and I was going to have to add it on at the end. Somewhat annoying but a minor issues.

The final leg, I was definitely noticing the niggle in my It band was making itself more known. When I passed the 21.1k mark I had a little internal celebration and realised my pace had crept up again. So had to keep getting myself to slow down. Which helped the ache in the IT band.

The last couple of km I kept a mental clock, just 10 minutes, just 6 minutes, 3 to go.

And then done!! Did a little bit of a walk around and stopped at a grassy point to stretch.

And then got my icecream reward! Loved it.

Before and after pics in the spoiler.

Avidkeo

Been watching the news about the young runner.

As a non American, I'm just gobsmacked. I just don't understand the culture that says "armed citizens" is a good idea, let alone "citizen arrests".

I'm even more horrified and appalled that the police were not going to do anything until the footage came out.

I don't know the answer, and it saddens me that one person can think that of another.

hamsterwheel6

Great running @Avidkeo !

I too ran 2.23 today and then walked the rest to get to 5K.
I usually don’t run on Fridays as it’s a rest day.
But for this I had to.

hamsterwheel6

@shanaber Thanks for the shoe suggestion. I see that REI has them. Hopefully soon I can try them to see how they fit.

rheddmobile

Re: running safely.

Back when I was in college and dating my husband, we used to walk a lot in the office complex adjoining his apartment building, which was beautifully landscaped. We weren’t runners at that time, but we loved walking at night and had made friends with the security guard after the security guard stopped to ask if we had a car breakdown and needed a ride somewhere. (Walking is still not common here and was even less so back then.) Then my husband got a roommate, who was a young black man studying to be a veterinarian. We mentioned to him how much we enjoyed walking in the neighborhood. So he tried it. On his first time out, he was stopped, asked for ID, then frisked by the friendly security guard who accused him of planning to break into the offices. I’ve lived in Memphis almost my whole life, so of course I knew there was such a thing as prejudice, but I didn’t really appreciate how it worked and how my daily experience was different from my husband’s roommate’s because of my skin color before that incident. We were doing the exact same thing he was, the assumption was that we needed help, the assumption was that he was committing a crime.

I’m still not running because of my knee, but I will think of Ahmaud on his birthday. Just a terrible thing.

katharmonic

@Avidkeo awesome job on your long run!! Well done. It looks beautiful there. I'm jealous of the sun and the view.

And believe me, as person from the US I'm also horrified by gun culture and the idea of citizen vigilantism. I will never understand it.

@rheddmobile that's such a statement, isn't it.

PastorVincent

katharmonic wrote: »

@Avidkeo awesome job on your long run!! Well done. It looks beautiful there. I'm jealous of the sun and the view.

Ditto! Well done!

renydo2

Kind of a late start - but I’ll see if I can catch up!
2 miles with the dogs today!

hanlonsk

@katharmonic sorry my snowy May weather made it clear over your way. Fair warning, since winds are bringing square state weather your way....today was a respite, and I ran in a tank and shorts- but based on the forecast, it is once again a trick- precip is in the forecast for most of the next week, and until Monday temps could create snow. So for you, until Tuesday?

Got my 2.23 today. My “day off” from work turned into 8 hours of work without a lunch break. So, the significantly underfueled state led to a rather terrible feeing run. The podcast that happened to be lined up for my run was a “behind the bas-tards” (trying to not get kittened here) that was covering yet another awful white supremacist/group....that and the self induced suffer-fest seemed very fitting for #irunwithmaud

2.23 today = 15.49/50

ETA- in this particular instance ... it frustrates me that Strava read the garman info as 2.22- normally I don’t care... but why can’t it match???

dreamer12151

Thank you to all who made suggestions about my seeing a doctor. Yes, I've been seeing doctors for years. I have chronic, clinical migraines that unfortunately seemed to increase when I moved back north & take daily prevent meds for them. We have been talking about different meds & treatments for them, and he did give me a new one not too long ago for attacks. (and of course, I did not take it last week) I did have an appointment scheduled in March for my GP, but with all this Covid stuff, it has been rescheduled for July, and WI is still in lockdown mode, so "emergency only" appointments right now. I have been talking with my chiropractor when I see him, and he has helped somewhat. Other than the headaches and those couple of days, I have felt fine.

5/5 - Ran 1.5 miles
5/7 - Walked 3.11 miles
5/8 - Walked 3.2 miles

TheMrWobbly

I will be running with Maud today and joining @hamsterwheel6 @T1DCarnivoreRunner @skippygirlsmom @katharmonic @janejellyroll @shanaber and all I am hoping millions of others worldwide.

If you would like a comedic view on gun control and don't mind a bit of swearing this guy is fabulous https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rR9IaXH1M0

Great running @Avidkeo and you gave me a boost to push forward as I was wavering a little.