Lose a stone in 21 days with Michael Mosley - opinions!

Fuzzipeg

Michael Mosely has another programme coming out. Only had a glance at the trailer, seems he is working with a number of specialists to see if as a group they can help individuals with persistent health issues.

Vailara

It was the person themselves who said that their Vitamin D levels were down to eating greens, and MIchael Mosley agreed, but I think was just being polite! But a little bit of misinformation!

I can see how the dramatic results would be motivating for the participants. And I think they did take care to do it safely.

OP, it is based on some research - it hasn't come out of nowhere. But having said that, there are lots of caveats about people who should not do it, so you are right to be concerned (for instance, it's only for people who have a fair bit of weight to lose). It's definitely not for everybody. I'm not sure if one size fits all anyway, when it comes to dieting. If 1500 calories and exercise is working for you, then why change unless you want to? Please don't feel bad about not jumping on the latest fashion (because although there's evidence for it having good results, I do think it's just one of the things that's "in" just now, not a magic cure, it's only a few weeks, and we've yet to see the results many years down the line).

ninerbuff

Dude is an actor. NOT A DIETICIAN.

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Fuzzipeg

He qualified as a doctor some years ago since when he has been a medical journalist. His wife is a dietitian who worked in collaboration with a University team, I did not realise I would need to remember which one. I doubt very much if you have seen any of his broadcast output nor read any of his books. He is in the UK and I am fairly certain you are in the US.

TeaBea

Fuzzipeg wrote: »

He qualified as a doctor some years ago since when he has been a medical journalist. His wife is a dietitian who worked in collaboration with a University team, I did not realise I would need to remember which one. I doubt very much if you have seen any of his broadcast output nor read any of his books. He is in the UK and I am fairly certain you are in the US.

In the U.S. I read a book of his -the 5:2 diet. This is a recycled version of the Rotation Diet. Many Americans have heard of him. His current diet plan (he comes out with a "new" one every couple of years); the Blood Sugar Diet is another 800 calorie plan. Then there's the program you are referring to. Diet books and programs are his living.

His book 5:2 was NOT based on science. His "proof" regarding his findings is similar to many diet books (a billion dollar industry). His "proof" was this happened to me, so 5:2 is responsible for all of these positive findings.

What diet books and programs don't tell you is losing weight (using any method) can result in improvements for several health markers. Starting a regular exercise program can result in improvements for several health markers. Diet books don't use control groups (but real science does). Attributing 100% of positive findings to a diet program is false advertising but the diet industry is largely unregulated.

I did read that he qualified as a doctor.....but then in the U.S. we have doctor OZ, a doctor that will sell his opinion (no matter how reckless) to the highest bidder. I don't put much stock in that.

Fuzzipeg

I'd not realised he was read that far. I wonder though, did you see the programme? Listening to medical related programs as I do, I know it is not unheard of for some practices to do similar plans with their at risk/high risk patients. True I can't bring and exact case to mind. Years of listening and reading is a long time. When there was the "New" way of treating Diabetes, lower carb, the idea was take up all over because it worked. If this programme gives some "at high risk" persons the incentive to request similar support from their practice and they become more healthy, that must be a better outcome. As well as in long run cheaper for the NHS. I've no experience of your Doctor Oz. I gather many of your doctors provide pills and the like for their patients, ours in the NHS have to use what is in their lists.

I know there are many faults with our medical system, the treatment of those with endocrine issues can be open to post code differences in available treatments. I had to turn to a "functional approach" to get my health back. Saying so on here brings down a hail of, "its not medicine" and disagrees. The same and more in-depth tests were done as any doctor could call on here, yet its rubbished. For me and many others, it works.

IronIsMyTherapy

Just like "Get Rich Quick with Jim Smith!". The people that benefit most are the people selling the program.

JoDavo66

I was sceptical but found the programme interesting.
The key thing that was missed by the media & probably many people who watched it was that this was a short term 3 week programme to give people with obesity & related health problems a kick start to improve health, motivation & change mindset in short term so following something more sustainable was more realistic.
I could not function at work on 800 calories a day & wouldn't try it BUT I've been told by my GP & Nurse Practitioner to reduce my carbs & up my protein as my previous diet stopped working with perimenopause and I have gained weight on a previously healthy diet for me. So, I bought the recipe book for Mosely's diet and am trying a lot of the recipes because they are keto based (therefore high protein) but most include a carb addition too (which fits his 5:2 regime) so good suggestions for mix & match. Lots of salmon & other fish recipes as well as vegetarian which is good for me as I'm pescitarian although tend to eat more vegetarian meals- so good for increasing protein.
It certainly isn't a long term diet or a quick fix

greyhoundwalker

JoDavo66 wrote: »

Lots of salmon & other fish recipes as well as vegetarian which is good for me as I'm pescitarian although tend to eat more vegetarian meals- so good for increasing protein.
It certainly isn't a long term diet or a quick fix

Which book did you get? (He has loads) I’m also pescatarian but mainly vegetarian, also couldn't manage on and wouldn’t eat only 800 calories per day, but the food in that programme looked really good. Lower calorie and yummy. I already tried the mushroom base pizza and that was super tasty.

age_is_just_a_number

Sustainable weight loss is achieved with a small caloric deficit over time. On average no more than 2 lbs per week is recommended.

Vailara

But the studies cited challenge that view. The NHS in England are now paying for people to go on these very low calorie diets because of the evidence that it seems to help in the longer term. Yes, it goes against the grain of what we have thought for years! But I do think it's good that the thinking is open to change.

800 calories isn't as hard as it sounds, as the people on the programme showed (especially combined with lowish carb, intermittent fasting, etc., which maybe help with hunger).

janejellyroll

Fuzzipeg wrote: »

He qualified as a doctor some years ago since when he has been a medical journalist. His wife is a dietitian who worked in collaboration with a University team, I did not realise I would need to remember which one. I doubt very much if you have seen any of his broadcast output nor read any of his books. He is in the UK and I am fairly certain you are in the US.

A good chunk of UK television shows and books actually make it over to the colonies via the magic of re-broadcasting, video streaming, and international publishing deals. It's why I've got cookbooks by Nigella Lawson and have seen every episode of "Sherlock." I've actually watched a lot of BBC shows via BBC America, including some of the diet/lifestyle shows.

I wouldn't assume an American hadn't seen a show from the UK any more than I'd assume someone from the UK had never seen "The Biggest Loser" or read about the Atkins diet.

J72FIT

RockAndSausageRoll wrote: »

As far as I can tell, he's recommended 800 cals & a keto approach

Insane...

JoDavo66

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JoDavo66

@greyhoundwalker
The Fast 800 recipe book.

czmiles926

My parents are going to start this diet next week. I feel like it's going to be a challenge because it's so drastically different from how they currently eat.
They are both obese so I'm really glad they're doing something about their health, but I'm not looking to living with them while they do it!
I'm going to join them on the diet for a bit because I have 6 or 7 vanity pounds I want to lose but I'm going to have to eat bread and pasta while their not looking!
Has anyone here actually done the diet?