October 2020 Monthly Running Challange
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@durhammfp I started using the Hal Higdon Novice 2 HM training plan when I trained for my first Half. I picked it because it has you running 4 days a week instead of 5 and that is what I do. The distance was less than I was already running though so I tweaked the mileage. But I stuck to the basic plan of 1 long run, 1 day of speed work and the other runs easy. That was actually advice given to me by @PastorVincent.
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Indeed. Too much food everywhere. And I can't even go the bring no money route anymore with mobile payment nowadays.1002-5.6k, total-5.6k goal-100k
An easy run to kick off the month. 15 degrees C. I think the days of short sleeve shirts are coming to an end, and there are gloves not far in the future. Was starting to feel exceedingly hungry toward the end, and somehow ended up in a convenience store. Only escaped four pieces of fried chicken later. Argh.
I had to laugh out loud at this and then thank my lucky stars that I usually run on country roads with no convenience stores! The struggle is real!
It was microwaved so a bit damp, but otherwise slightly above average fried chicken.
If I weren't 7000 miles away I'd want to go watch too!Camaramandy648 wrote: »...they only said yes to helping me because it's insane and they want to watch.6 -
martaindale wrote: »You are where I want to be in about in 3-4 months. Right now I'm finishing a 10K training plan, will do a virtual 10K, take a week off, then start on training for a HM that would be in mid Feb, if it were being held. How did you choose that particular training plan for your HM?
I'm not @kgirlhart but I've used Hal's plans for HM training and really liked them. Not sure how she modified it, but I usually tweak them a little because I run 4 days a week and the plans often have 5 days of running. I used the novice plan for my 1st HM and then the last 6 weeks or so of the intermediate 2 plan in the time between my 1st and 2nd HM. Both were exactly what I needed at those times. The volume of running wasn't too crazy once I tweaked it for my schedule but it was enough to get me ready. I even dropped a little less than 30 minutes off my time between my 2 races.
I do a similar thing with Hal's plans, except I start with the advanced plans (because I like the speedwork suggestions), delete one easy run and sub out another easy/medium run for cycling or swimming. I do the days in whatever order fits my schedule. So he probably would say I'm not actually following his plan. I'm ok with that
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The main thing I like about the Hal app is you tell it which days you want to run and it adapts the plans to that. So as long as you always run on the same days it's great. No flexibility though.
So, dunno if anyone believed me when I said I wouldn't race my virtual race this morning. Cause oh boy did I race it. Apparently dodgy toenails lead to PRs galore! I had never expected to run a sub 30 minute 5k (28:53), or a 61:13 10k, even less so during a solo virtual race. The high hasn't worn off yet :-)
Whoever said the Galloway (run-walk-run) method isn't running can look at those numbers and go take a hike! 😂
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Nice running @eleanorhawkins and you blitzed through that 5k!2
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I was going to have salmon for dinner and then thought about @rheddmobile so chicken it is!0
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Our Pastor Vincent challenge that @rheddmobile set up was very inspiring so I would like to set up a challenge for this group to "Run the World" in 2021. We have over 30 active members in the group so covering 24,901 miles (the equator of the earth) between us is achievable especially if @AlphaHowls is on board!
The challenge will run for the full year and I would like to create a route map with as many of our home towns on as possible so if you would like your home town featured or a memorable running spot let me know where to add. It might not be possible to fit them all in though I know I can get Europe, North America, Japan, Australia and New Zealand in the mileage depending on how many zig zags are needed.
If we have enough people I will organise some free bling to go with the challenge.11 -
@eleanorhawkins that toe gave you super powers! WTG on your 5K and 10K PRs! That is very impressive to get both on one run!
@TheMrWobbly "Run the World" sounds like a fun challenge. I'm in!1 -
@TheMrWobbly Run the World sounds great!0
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marisap2010 wrote: »@TheMrWobbly Run the World sounds great!
As above (there's very little I won't do for bling or pizza! 😂 )1 -
@eleanorhawkins CONGRATULATIONS! Those are awesome paces. Glad the bum toe didn't hold you back! Imagine what you could have done in a "real" race! I love the Jeff Galloway method of running. You go girl!
@TheMrWobbly The Run the World challenge sounds great! I'm in, assuming I will be recovered and running again.
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I don't think we had a monthly question in September. I'd like to propose that the following as a strictly selfish one to give me inspiration as I recover from surgery - hopefully this month. "What is the worst injury/medical issue that you have come back from and how did you do it?"3
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quilteryoyo wrote: »"What is the worst injury/medical issue that you have come back from and how did you do it?"
I have been fortunate so far with small niggles like shin splints and the like which have just required patience.
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Morning!
@TheMrWobbly im down for your challenge! Arkansas. Yee haw. 😂
@quilteryoyo do you mean diagnosed injuries? 😂😂😂
The worst one i have and still deal with is my IT bands. Strength training and PT have been the cure, but i have to be REALLY consistent or they get real bad again. Add strength training and PT when I did was a God send for all these ultras.
Today i am running with a friend for the first time in my life.
Here’s how much i hate running with people.
This is like my best friend and i want to say i have diarrhea or something.
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@eleanorhawkins Great job on your 5K and 10K PRs!
@TheMrWobbly I would be in for a "Run the World" challenge!
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10-1 7k easy
10-2 7k slow
10-3 7k slow
October Total: 21k
October Goal: 170k
January Total: 161k
February Total: 167k
March Total: 181k
April Total: 191k
May Total: 200k
June Total: 156k
July Total: 180k
August Total: 172k
September Total: 176k
2020 Total through September: 1584k / 176k per month
Partly cloudy, lower 40s F and frosty this morning. Watch wouldn't lock on the satellites, so I just ran what I ran yesterday.
Great running, @eleanorhawkins!!
@TheMrWobbly I'll be glad to Run the World from Ohio.
When you pop in here claiming your December 2020 mileage, what accomplishments will you have made?
Return to a good running weight of 175 lbs
Run at least 4 5k races
Get a 5k PR
Average at least 138k per month, to meet my Run the Year pledge of 1,020 miles
Stretch goal: If I can average 169k per month, I can run 2020k in 2020
Run the Year Team: Pavement Pounders -- Completed 9-29
2020 races:
9-8 to 9-13 "Virtual Boston with Vincent" Time goal 5:15:00; actual time 4:47:015 -
quilteryoyo wrote: »I don't think we had a monthly question in September. I'd like to propose that the following as a strictly selfish one to give me inspiration as I recover from surgery - hopefully this month. "What is the worst injury/medical issue that you have come back from and how did you do it?"
Honestly, I've been pretty lucky too. Early on in my running, I injured my psoas muscle. It was actually injured during a pilates class I think, but I really felt it when running. It was mostly patience and some rolling, but it sucked because I could feel it every time I took a step. And of course it happened at a time when I was still building a running habit so it was so hard for me to take a day off. When I did start back I did short runs to test it out because I was worried about reinjuring it and having to start over. But, I haven't had any more issues from it.3 -
quilteryoyo wrote: »I don't think we had a monthly question in September. I'd like to propose that the following as a strictly selfish one to give me inspiration as I recover from surgery - hopefully this month. "What is the worst injury/medical issue that you have come back from and how did you do it?"
Yeah skip the following if you are squeamish about surgical details.
Ovarian torsion caused by a massive (benign) tumor which led to the death of the ovary. Did not have health insurance at the time so the hospital really wanted to pretend I didn’t have a problem - they sent me home with a torsion, saying that the ultrasound showed I had blood flow (found out later by reading this is not diagnostic of torsion) where I stayed for about a month in off and on blinding pain. At this time I developed diabetes for the first time, which is apparently pretty common for it to first emerge during a severe illness when stress causes a cortisol spike, blocking the effects of insulin. Anyway I felt as if I was starving, too exhausted to get out of bed, and scarfed down entire bags of candy at one sitting, yet lost 25 lbs in a month, because I wasn’t getting enough insulin to metabolize my food. Finally went back to the ER and literally threatened to kill myself if they didn’t do something, which got their attention - I had to have someone sit with me at all times from that point forward - but also got a compassionate doctor to call his personal friend who was a gyn to recommend I be admitted. Seriously that dude has a place in heaven. They took 2 days to get me stabilized enough to operate, found out the ovary was dead and necrotic and had a 11 cm tumor on it, and also oh by the way your bg was 270 the first time we saw you, we just didn’t bother mentioning it to anyone.
I definitely got to see the best and worst of the medical profession at that time! The ER doctor who claimed I didn’t have anything wrong with me is still an ER doctor. I have encountered him since when visiting the ER and he once again misdiagnosed me, saying my ruptured Baker’s cyst wasn’t ruptured because “they don’t do that.” When I eventually got into an ortho clinic they said it was the worst rupture they had ever seen of a Baker’s cyst. On the other hand once I got past the ER, the staff at the women’s hospital were amazing. My surgeon went out of his way to get my tumor out without having to convert to an open surgery - he was very proud of his ingenuity, he put the tumor in a baggie and drained it into the baggie, then brought it out without having to enlarge the incision.
And then once I was back in the care of normal, not women’s hospital professionals, they were Star-spangled morons again - like the endocrinologist who sent me home with a massive prescription for medication that lowers blood glucose, no advise and no monitor. And the hospital dietician who gave me a consult for my diabetes and recommended eating no more than “three carbs” per meal, with one carb defined as a baked potato, sweet potato, piece of pie, or whatever. I still have the chart she gave me and it’s horrifying in how inappropriate the advice is. I guess she was used to dealing with people who ate a certain way and weren’t willing to make changes, so she had dumbed everything down to the point of uselessness. I do remember that I asked if quinoa was better or worse for diabetics than other grains and she had never heard of it. It occurs to me now that possibly she had seen it written and never heard it out loud, and had no idea how it was pronounced. Fortunately I did my own reading, bought my own meter, and got my own blood sugar under control.
So, when I emerged from the hospital, I had a new diabetes diagnosis, lots of meds, a three inch incision on my belly, and instructions not to drive for at least two weeks. I also couldn’t see, because the sudden change in blood glucose had warped my corneas and my vision was temporarily very blurry. I was morbidly obese and had been so sick for so long that I couldn’t walk to my mailbox without getting winded. And I was d.o.n.e. Done with being sick all the time. So I sat down with my husband and had a talk about the bad habits we had and how I wasn’t going to be a part of them any more. I had previously lost 50 lbs twice before, and put it all back on both times due to gradually giving way to eating more like he did. I told him I wasn’t cooking junk for him, I wasn’t going out to eat junk, and I wasn’t going to be around it in my home. And I was going to start working out every day, and I didn’t expect him to complain about it. And having seen me nearly dead he was pretty scared and agreed to support me. And to be fair he has done exactly that ever since.
I was so weak when I started that walking around my block was exhausting. But I did it, the day after I got home. I started lifting cans and water bottles until I was strong enough to lift weights. I did research and started eating to the meter - testing my blood after every meal and adjusting my carbs accordingly to keep my blood sugar within normal range. At my first follow up appointment my doctor lowered my meds because I kept going low. By the second appointment he took me off everything but metformin, and called in the other doctors to show them how much weight I had lost and how he wished all patients were like me. I still had stitches at Christmas and my goal was to be no longer obese by my birthday in June. I made it, and started running shortly after. By December of that year I was normal weight and had run my first 5k.
So, when most people say couch to 5k, they didn’t literally start from the couch. I did. I could barely even walk short distances and was almost completely disabled by illness when I started. This short telling makes it sound like I was determined and put in a bunch of hard work, but I’m leaving out the parts where I cried and cursed my life and screamed things like “If I have to work out every day in order to eat I don’t know why it’s even worth it to be alive!” Yes, this is a real thing that happened. For months, while I was getting used to doing what I needed to do. No pie, ever - sugar substitutes taste like poison to me and even a small sliver will spike my blood glucose. No Coke, ever. I used to drink giant coke icees all the time, they were literally my favorite thing. And instead of playing video games all day (I make video games for a living so playing them is an occupational hazard) I didn’t have time, because I was running and lifting. And I really did hate it. But I did it, because when you need to do something or you will die, you just do it. Not being able to see really brought home to me that high blood glucose destroys the body. Reading about the high chance of stroke, heart attack, and amputation if I had uncontrolled diabetes, combined with the death that year of my dear friend from diabetes related causes, drove home the point. I had to change to live and I did it. But that first six months I hated every moment of every day.
I had to seek out new pleasures and new sources of pleasure to keep going. Now I love running, I love lifting, and I love the food I eat. I don’t fear going back to my old way of living because it seems terrible and I can’t imagine why I liked it at the time.16 -
@eleanorhawkins Great job on the PR's! Glad the toe didn't give you trouble. I don't think anyone on here ever said run/walk wasn't running. You are definitely running!
@TheMrWobbly I think Run the World sounds awesome! Count me in from Texas!
@quilteryoyo My worst medical issue was a tumor on the heel of my foot. I think it was a type of lymphoma and the doctor said that if it had been on the side we could have left it alone. But since it was on the bottom of my foot and was causing me pain they removed it. I had had it for an embarrassing number of years (like 10-15) and by then I was tired of stepping on something small and then being in pain for days. Plus the days were becoming weeks. Not only did I have to have general anesthesia, I had to be on crutches for 2 weeks (I had about 14 stitches in the bottom of my foot on the heel) and I was not allowed to put any weight at all on my foot, not even the toes. The recovery wasn't particularly painful, but it was annoying. And this was over 20 years ago and I think my kids were around 2 and 6. I also wasn't a runner back then so I don't know how long it would have taken me to get back to running, but after the 2 weeks it didn't take too long to get back to my normal routine. They did say there was always a possibility that another one could form and I am always a little worried about that especially since I started running, but so far so good.
Wow @rheddmobile! I knew a little of your story from things you've posted over the years, but that is amazing! I'm so glad you made it through all that. You are very inspiring!
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quilteryoyo wrote: »I don't think we had a monthly question in September. I'd like to propose that the following as a strictly selfish one to give me inspiration as I recover from surgery - hopefully this month. "What is the worst injury/medical issue that you have come back from and how did you do it?"
When I first started out running I had really bad knees. To the point that I couldn't do a quarter squat without holding onto something because they would hurt like kittens. (To whomever blindly advocates that running is bad and cycling is good - badly fitted bikes are awful for knee health, peeps.) Luckily for me, they didn't hurt much while running. It was mostly a matter of not overextending my own abilities. Used KT tape as needed, rested as needed, did wall sits whenever I brushed my teeth so I wouldn't skip them. It was a slow process but eventually they got to the point where I didn't need to constantly monitor them. Still do wall sits while brushing teeth though, I think the habit has stuck.
There's this article that I shared last year and I think it's quite applicable so sharing it again. This line really hits home: You are still an athlete, and recovery is now your sport.
@rheddmobile I'm going to file your story away in my long term memory to tell anyone who ever tells me they're too lazy/sick/stuck in their ways to live healthier.
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This week has been another crazy week in the *kitten* up year of 2020. I work for a petroleum geologist in a small family owned business. September 25th was my 20 year anniversary. So I was not prepared on Thursday when my boss said he was going to have to let me go. I should have been. I run the office and do all the bookkeeping and I know that things have been really bad. When oil prices are low it really ruins the economy around here. I think he felt possibly worse about it than I did. There were some tears shed and not just by me. I have actually known him since I was about 15 and I was their babysitter when I was in high school and he and his wife are my kid's godparents so I know he felt really bad about it, especially with the timing and my dad passing away.
But there is another company that we do a lot of business with and they need an accountant for one of their businesses and they really wanted me to come over to work for them. I think that is a lot of the reason he finally made the decision to let me go, because he knew I would have a good job offer and they need someone now. I am equal parts scared and excited. It will really be a little more work than I have been doing lately, but I have really been kind of bored with my job the last few years but felt guilty at the idea of quitting. And the pay will be a little more so that is always good. I may have to adjust my running schedule which will probably mean getting out about 5 to 5:15 instead of 5:45 to 6. And I probably won't have as much time to browse this thread at work like I do now. ☺
I am going over there on Tuesday to meet with them and be shown around. We have worked with them a lot over the years so I already know a lot of the people. In fact 2 of my brothers in law work there. But they are not in the accounting office. And I guess in 2 weeks I will be starting a whole new job.
I know this isn't running related, but I wanted to share it with y'all. Because I feel like as a runner every thing that affects us can affect our running so therefore everything is running related. 😁15 -
quilteryoyo wrote: »I don't think we had a monthly question in September. I'd like to propose that the following as a strictly selfish one to give me inspiration as I recover from surgery - hopefully this month. "What is the worst injury/medical issue that you have come back from and how did you do it?"
Broken leg. It was fairly easy to come back from after cast was off. I had to get used to walking again for a few weeks (2 crutches to 1 then none). I started with 30 minutes of walk 4:30 then run :30. Increased the running by 30 seconds each week until I could run the full 5 minutes.
Hardest part was getting the range of motion back. My big toe took longest. And I still don't have the same flexibility/ range as before. Some times it's hard to get shoes on. Sometimes when the weather changes quickly it aches.5 -
quilteryoyo wrote: »I don't think we had a monthly question in September. I'd like to propose that the following as a strictly selfish one to give me inspiration as I recover from surgery - hopefully this month. "What is the worst injury/medical issue that you have come back from and how did you do it?"
I've been plagued by lower leg injuries every year since I started running 8 years ago. But the worst has probably been one of the bouts of Plantar fasciitis a year ago (or maybe it was 2018). In any case, I remember it hurt 24 hours a day even when I was sitting. But at some point running just became unbearable so I took about 6 weeks off. All that time it still hurt to walk, but it started feeling a little better. Started some strength exercises (single leg calf raises, towel curls, bridges, squats, etc) and after another 4 weeks started slow short runs. Didn't hurt too bad, and slowly increased miles for about 2 - 4 weeks. Then was able to increase pace slowly.
I still get niggles now and again, but I believe strength training is the answer to injury prevention (and foam rolling and foot golf ball rolling every day)5 -
After reading up to this point, my niggles, both big and small, do not even rate a mention.
My hat is off to all you courageous runners who overcome the challenges life throws in your paths and keep coming back for more.6 -
@rheddmobile Very inspiring! I'm glad you made the choice to be healthy and that your DH got on board with it!
@kgirlhart Sorry about the job loss, but sounds like it is a great opportunity for you. I know you will do well. I feel bad for your old boss though and the fact that the economy is hurting his business so badly.
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@rheddmobile you have true grit and determination! Yes, you are an inspiration to us all.
@kgirlhart very sorry about the job loss. You're right, it comes at a very bad time, but the blessing is you have an immediate replacement, and with better pay That's pretty hard to beat.
For the first time since October of 2019 I ran somewhere besides my neighborhood! I drove about 15 minutes to the next town and ran the trails. They are paved, but wind through woods and around 3 small lakes. It was glorious! Temp started out at 58F and finished at 61F. Light wind, just wonderful. Before I knew it I was at 14 miles, with an average pace of 9:01/mi. I really need to get out of my neighborhood more.
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Great run @Scott6255 !0
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I did skip as I am not great with grizzly details but I feel for you @rheddmobile
That was a fantastic run @Scott6255
Change is always a little concerning @kgirlhart though you have to know how well thought of you are by everyone in how they have let this work out. You are going to nail this and not look back 😊
Thank you to everyone confirming they are up for the 'Run the World' challenge. Once I think we have all the replies we can get I will sort the route map and post a link for you all.
A much better 10k tonight with steady splits between 09:30 and 09:47 all the way. Slower than Thursday's PB though I could keep on running after and only stopped as I had reached the shop and needed to get dinner sorted.4 -
10/1 – 6 miles
10/2 – 9 miles
10/3 – 6 miles intervals with Champ
21 (21.27) of 115 miles
@kgirlhart Skip used Hal Higdon’s plan for her marathon and loved it. So glad you weren’t out of work long!! Wow. Everything is run related!
@TheMrWobbly I’m in too
October question of the month
"What is the worst injury/medical issue that you have come back from and how did you do it?"
I think the worse was when broke 4 ribs. I fell running into the church parking lot in the dark, I could understand God’s sense of humor if I was running out of the church. I went to the ER about a week later and was SHOCKED when they told me I broke 4 ribs, I said that explains why it hurts like *kitten*. The worse part was waiting almost 3 months to run but the doctor was adamant about the fact I could puncture a lung. So I lost all my stamina and it was hard to come back, it hurt to run, it hurt to breathe when running. I started to race a trail series in June and the first 5K I wanted to die at the end, Skip was waiting there with a bag of ice. Finally by August I was feeling better and fell during the 10K of that trail series and the doctor thought I broke both knee caps, that was another 6 weeks of no running. I’ve learned that I have to listen to my body to heal, when I’m in pain and hurt, not just in pain I need to stop and heal. Being in my late 50s doesn’t help either I think it takes me longer to heal. When I did start back I started slow and listen to my body. Of course after both those falls I was scared to death to fall again.
I’ve been through other things that weren’t ask bad, IT band, foot surgery and a torn labrum nerve in my hip. My foot still hurts at least once a week, I ignore it, the hip will bother me after long runs or if I’m on concrete like sidewalks running a lot. IT and labrum I did PT for and when the hip talks to me I make sure I stretch it good.
Good night @rheddmobile that was painful and awful to read.
Races:
169 of 335 miles Pinhoti Trail Challenge done
230 of 248 miles of Space Race doneMother’s Day Virtual 5K – done
Retro Run Virtual 5K – done
Rona on the Run - Virtual for St. Jude benefit - done
Keep Moving Huntsville - at least one mile a day 1 - 31 May - done
The Big Run - June 3 - done
NEGU virtual run - June - Team NEGU helping support kids with cancer - done
Big Foot Wild Thangs Trail Race 5K/10K – June 20 on the trails…all together like a real race - done
Run 4 on the 4th – Virtual 4 miles on 4th of July - done
ISS Virtual 5K in July – done
Jackalope Trail Run 4 miler – done
Flora-Bama 600K - Virtual race from Huntsville AL to the Florida Alabama state line in Orange Beach – done
Scooby Doo Virtual 10K - done
Skunk Ape 5 miler August 1 trail race in person – done
Pirate Challenge – 10 weeks mile challenge June – August – done
Chupacabra 10K/HM – August 22 - done
Running of the Bulls Virtual 5K – 9/14 – 30/2020 - done
The Pinhoti Trail Challenge 335 miles virtual – 1 Sept to 31 Dec – 133 miles done
2020 Liberty Road Challenge WWII soldiers journey from St. Mere Eglisde to Bastogne, Belgium – charity virtual run for the WII museum in New Orleans 716 miles team event 4 July – September – our team has finished
Space Race 400K Challenge 12 weeks running 248.5 miles to the ISS – August to November – 194 miles done
Oak Barrel Half Marathon – October – running virtual
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I have been very fortunate to not have any running related injuries other than a shin splint. My worst illness though happened my senior year of college. I felt awful and kept throwing up, so I went to the campus clinic. They gave me an antibiotic, which didn’t help, so they then sent me to the ER, where I was diagnosed with a UTI. Two days later, I had a fever of 104, so my roommate and boyfriend took me back to the ER, and my mom drove several hours to see me. I ended up being in the hospital for a week with an infection of unknown origin in my gallbladder, liver, spleen, and both kidneys. My gallbladder totally stopped working, and I ended up having it taken out a few weeks later when my platelet count went up and my white blood cell count went down. I had so many tests done, and we discovered my allergy to azythromyacin. I still have no idea what caused it. It took me awhile until several weeks after the gallbladder came out for me to get my energy back to do much of anything.
@rheddmobile, your story is incredible. You are such a strong person.
@kgirlhart I’m sorry about the job loss, but I am happy something else was waiting for you. I hope the new job goes well!
Last night was just a brief walk with my dogs, followed by strength training. Today, I got in 1.75 miles, and I went to a new class at my gym- RIPPED. I have never done so many burpees. I am exhausted and think I will likely be sore tomorrow.
10/1: 1.5 + ST
10/2: .5 + ST
10/3: 1.75 + RIPPED
Total: 3.75/506
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