October 2020 Monthly Running Challange
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@durhammfp - I tried to make the distinctions of “PT” clear enough because different things share initials... but I probably got fuzzy somewhere.
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I eventually in this process sought the services of “PT” in the form of Personal Trainer while the “PT” Physical Therapist was forbidding running, because not running (and still staying on a relatively healthy track) led to my lifting capacity exceeding my ability to self correct on form.... it was the Trainer who gave the recommendation to an orthopedic specific doc, who he had worked with since he was a collegiate athlete, so some known sports medicine experience, and still recommends.... who has a closely associated “PT” as in Physical Therapist, which led to progress.
But, i still seem to need additional support/intervention when I reach 10 miles a week or more.
OK gotcha! I'm glad you got that wonky ankle 'resolved' or at least to the point where you could really start running again.
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Hi all. Have been quiet the last few days as a combo of sickness (mine and/or the kids) plus relentless torrential rain has meant I have not yet had a run in October. I’m now feeling better physically but a mess mentally and need to get out there!!
Hopefully tomorrow morning will be better. In the meantime, @TheMrWobbly I am in for Run the World and would love it if we all passed through my hometown of London UK!
Brave souls are running a squelchy marathon here today. I wanted to watch but am too busy attending to the rain that has now made its way into my house (yes it is raining in at least two separate parts of the house, sigh...)
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@martaindale Yeah for the longer run and faster than normal. You are doing great! And, you're right. You can't fail as long as you are moving forward!
@rheddmobile Thanks for the honesty. I know that is going to be the worst part - the chest cracked open. Getting the bone to heal back as quickly as possible will be the number one concern. The only broken bone that I recall having was an elbow back in 1994. It didn't really hurt, unless I accidently moved it too much. I suspect this will be a lot different.
@hanlonsk Wow! Another inspirational story. So sorry about all that you had to go through and that your partner was NOT supportive or just didn't care that you were in pain. Glad you are trying again. I have a feeling this is the time that it will take and you are going to keep it up!
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@HonuNui Even in not ideal conditions, I love the picture!
@ContraryMaryMary Glad your finally can run, and walk down stairs, without the soleus muscles giving your grief! Thanks for the input. I know that the surgeon, his PA at least, is a runner, so they understand. Not sure, being in a small town, that I will have the luxury of having everyone I deal with being a runner. I have already decided that I am going to try to get them to forgo Cardiac Rehab because I know, from when dad went through it, that the local person is NOT a runner and follows all of the government recommendations, which I don't agree with. Also, the rehab nurse if very overweight herself and doesn't try to do better - I know because she is my cousin. LOL
@Faebert Glad you and yours are feeling better. So sorry about the rain "inside" the house. Hope it's not too hard to stop/fix. I feel for you.
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After 4 sub 1 hour 10ks in 18 months before this week today was the 3rd in the last 4 days. I'm not sure what to do with that information other than maybe go farther?11
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I am nowhere near caught up here but wanted to comment on a few things and then I will come back and catch up on the rest...
@eleanorhawkins - great job on your virtual race! I have never been able to really push myself for my virtual races so I am very impressed by those who can really get a pr running one! Awesome!
@TheMrWobbly - That is such a fun great idea! Thank you!! I am definitely in, running from Anaheim, CA (you can use Disneyland as a location marker 😂)
Wow! @rheddmobile - that was quite a journey! I also knew bits and pieces from over the years here but putting it all together makes it more incredible! Makes me wonder though just how many people that ER doctor has misdiagnosed over the years. Scary!
@noblsheep - That article is great, wish I had seen it previously some of the times I have needed to rehabilitate! Also I use my toothbrushing time to do single leg stands to help with my ankle strength and balance although it helps the entire chain.
Monthly question... Had to give this some long thought as I have had a few, some running related (plantar fasciitis, shin splints, metatarsal stress fracture) and some running affected (arthritis in my knee, hand surgery, etc.).
Some background - when I was 14 I had rheumatic fever and was on strict bed rest for a year. Since my bedroom was upstairs my mom moved me to the downstairs den and I could walk to the bathroom 5 steps away in the hall and to the kitchen (even this was not approved but since I was home alone it was a necessity) and that was it. No activity, no excitement, no friends. Homework was sent home and I could watch the limited TV we had at the time. I was also on heavy doses of steroids. As a result I was very heavy afterwards but still with some damage to my heart and joints. Fast forward many years and I have (finally) lost the weight, my rheumatologist told me to keep moving or I will lose the ability/mobility to do so and my HR was going lower and lower until it was becoming harder and harder to run very far even slowly. I struggled with it off and on for the last year until I was frustrated and frightened enough to go back and see the cardiologist (I was seeing him as a precaution every 6 months already). I knew a pacemaker was a possibility I didn't realize it had gotten to the point of being a requirement. This last June I had the PM implanted and while it is better it has been an incredibly hard adjustment. Going from a RHR of 30 to 60 (paced) is hard and feels weird. Going from never getting above 120 on a run even sprinting, to a steady 140 (paced) now on an easy run or walk and feeling completely wiped out as if I had run as hard as I could. One issue I have had, is most doctors and techs dealing with people with PMs are used to older (ok I am), sedentary, unfit people. So having someone who is active and needs more than just a boost up in pace has been difficult but we are getting there. I do appreciate that the EP doctor chose a PM for me that is a bit unusual (it was only available at one hospital and there are only a handful of techs that support it) in that it will 'learn' my requirements and adjust appropriately. It just takes time. I am trying to be patient, trying to take it easy on my runs and walking or stopping as needed. I know it will get better over time as I adjust and the PM learns my requirements and the doctors get it adjusted. I am looking forward to when I can run further and really do speed work again and get my pace down from the 12-13min miles I seem to be forever stuck at. For now I will keep at it, little by little it will improve.
@quilteryoyo - I know that you too will require patience to get back to where you are today but I also have confidence that you will get there and we will be right here cheering you along!
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@Teresa502 Thanks. That's what I am hoping for too.
Thanks @katharmonic. It was definitely stressful.
Thanks @rheddmobile. I am trying to take good care of me. This year has definitely had a lot of stress.
@honunui Love the snorkeling photo.
@Faebert Sorry about the rain in the house. Been there, done that. It is no fun. Hope you and the kiddos are feeling better.0 -
October Goal: 100 Miles
10/1: 6.24 miles
10/4: 11.02 miles
17.26/100 miles completed for October
1077.20/1000 miles for Run the Year Team Pavement Pounders
This morning's run was just wonderful. The weather was absolutely perfect running weather. It was 57°F at the start and even after the sun came up it was only about 60°F when I finished. I felt good and just really enjoyed it. I didn't even cry any and that's the first run in a couple of weeks that I didn't. I ran 11 miles and honestly felt like I could keep going forever. I love runs like that.
2020 races:
11/7/20: Run for 57th AHC Half Marathon12 -
5k tempo plus 5k walk yesterday. So the good news is it was just a shade under my race pace the week before but felt much easier. And also my knee didn’t feel touchy after. I wish the weather would stay like this for longer!7
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@TheMrWobbly WTG! Go further or faster, depending on what your ultimate goals are.
@shanaber I can't imagine having to be on strict bedrest for an entire year. That in itself doesn't seem very healthy. Wonder if they have changed the treatment since then. I know you are still dealing with the PM issues. Glad you got the one that "learns," just wish it learned a little faster as I'm sure you do too. You're patience and persistence is inspiring. Thanks. I will need all of the cheering I can get, I'm sure.
@kgirlhart Glad you had such a good run this morning!
I had planned to run this afternoon, but my friend wanted to play tennis again. She is leaving tomorrow to go see her 102 year old mother in another state and then the next week will be leaving for her winter stay in FL. So, this may be the last time I get to play with her this year. The weather was perfect. I'm enjoying these fall days.5 -
Thanks to those of you who shared your inspiring stories of what you had to overcome injury/health wise. You are all tough and wonderful people.
Date :::: Miles :::: Cumulative
10/01/20 :::: 2.1 :::: 2.1
10/02/20 :::: 1.8 :::: 3.9
10/03/20 :::: 5.0 :::: 8.9
10/04/20 :::: 3.1 :::: 12.0
I refused to set an alarm so I slept in a little, worked all day, and then a friend was able to meet me late afternoon for a run. Then I got home and did a kettlebell and mace workout that my trainer texted, which was tougher than expected. I am somewhat afraid to use my kettlebell in the house for fear it goes through the floor or a wall and having dropped it hard (outside) today that's probably a good thing. There's always the basement I guess.5 -
October Goal 60ish miles
10/1 3.52
10/2 snorkel
10/3 3.08
10/4 3.88
Total 10.48
Upcoming and current races:
D-Backs Virtual Run Against Cancer on 10/17 (which would have been my son's 43rd birthday....)
https://raceroster.com/events/2020/27903/2020-d-backs-virtual-race-against-cancer
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@kgirlhart - I am so sorry about your about your job but Congratulations!! on the new job!
@HonuNui - Love your pictures even in poor conditions! That trumpet fish is amazing!
@ContraryMaryMary - my gp isn't a runner but fully supports my running and defers when I have a running related issue to my Orthopedist/Rheumatologist who is a runner. He also always sends me to a PT (physical therapist) who is also a runner with the goal to get me back out to running.
@durhammfp - I do intervals with 90s rest most of the time. Sometimes more sometimes less but 90s seems to work well for me. Sometimes I run the easy or walk. It really depends on how I am feeling. Another fun way to do 'speed work' is to just pick a point in the distance (not too far away) and run fast to that point then easy for a bit and pick another point and repeat. You can play with how fast, how far and you can change it up as you go. The point is to have fun with it. These are called fartleks (speed play).
@hanlonsk - when you go out to run a longer distance, have you tried wrapping your ankle with KT tape to provide some extra support? I have had pretty weak ankles (thus the single leg stands while brushing my teeth mentioned in my previous post) all my life and used to wrap or have them wrapped before a HM. It seemed to help.
@Faebert - glad you are feeling better but sorry about the rain moving inside your home! Not fun having to deal with that!
@quilteryoyo - I hope you can work with your doctor and the PA for your recovery plan. They will know what you can and should be able to do when and you already know the running side of things.
Rheumatic fever is pretty rare these days. It results from repeated strep infections and a build up of the infection that your body can't fight off. I had weekly and sometimes more frequent blood tests to check my white blood count and the strep load. I actually charted those values hoping to see them going in the right directions over time. The strep infection attacks the joints and heart muscle so they don't want you to do anything that could result in damage. I was also on very high doses of antibiotics and prophylactic antibiotics for years and years afterwards. I am also high risk if exposed to strep again so anytime our daughter (or I) had a sore throat I would get tested and typically more antibiotics.
I had a couple of good runs the yesterday and today despite the heat. We are still in the high 90's and bumping up to 100 again. The meteorologists keep saying a cooling trend is coming but so far not so much. I have to say I think I am FINALLY getting used to the heat somewhat. It also helps that the humidity is down too. None of this is good for the fires so we are all holding our collective breath hoping more fires don't take off and the ones burning get under control. Hobbes unfortunately is still not used to the heat. I took him yesterday and we ended up walking home (it was 88F at that point), despite him wanting to keep running. It was clear he wasn't feeling well and when we got home he crashed out and basically didn't move much the entire day. No more hot weather running for him.
Today on the trail I saw these and they really brightened my day and motivated me to keep running when I was feeling so hot and just wanting to be done. I have no idea who put them out or if there are more along the trail. I will have to look tomorrow.
Date..........Miles........Total
10/01.......5.26..........5.26
10/02.......0.00..........5.26
10/03.......4.08..........9.34
10/04.......5.66........15.00
2020 Run the Year Team - 2020 R.I.O.T. (Running Is Our Therapy) 1277.03/1000 miles (running and walking)
2020 Planned and Completed Races
02/02/20 - Surf City Half Marathon
07/31/20 - ISS Virtual 10K (Late)
08/15-09/30 - eRace Racism (200 miles) 200+ miles completed.
09/21-09/27 - Womxn Run the Vote - 680 mile virtual relay
09/26/20 - Beat the Blerch 10K Virtual8 -
Yesterday morning was 55F and clear skies, so I headed to some local trails. I took my time and stopped some to take pictures, look at animals, etc., but I finished with 4 miles.5
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@shanaber Thanks for the info on Rheumatic fever sounds like an awful experience. I did not know all of that. I'm glad it is rare these days, but sorry that you still have to be extra careful about contracting strep and have lingering issues. Sounds like you are doing all you can to make sure you are healthy. Great run in the heat. Poor Hobbes sounds like my Tippy. If it's hot, she wants inside where it is air conditioned. Love the painted rocks.
@marisap2010 Nice spot for a run!2 -
10-1 7k easy
10-2 7k slow
10-3 7k slow
10-4 7k easy
10-5 rest
October Total: 28k
October Goal: 170k
January Total: 161k
February Total: 167k
March Total: 181k
April Total: 191k
May Total: 200k
June Total: 156k
July Total: 180k
August Total: 172k
September Total: 176k
2020 Total through September: 1584k / 176k per month
Rest day today. Chilly golf instead of running. Got up early to check the weather, ad the sky was beautiful!
When you pop in here claiming your December 2020 mileage, what accomplishments will you have made?
Return to a good running weight of 175 lbs
Run at least 4 5k races
Get a 5k PR
Average at least 138k per month, to meet my Run the Year pledge of 1,020 miles
Stretch goal: If I can average 169k per month, I can run 2020k in 2020
Run the Year Team: Pavement Pounders -- Completed 9-29
2020 races:
9-8 to 9-13 "Virtual Boston with Vincent" Time goal 5:15:00; actual time 4:47:014 -
5 miles this morning. Great weather, but still a Monday.
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10/1 – 6 miles
10/2 – 9 miles
10/3 – 6 miles intervals with Champ
10/4 – 4 with Champ
10/5 – rest day
25 (25.36) of 115 miles
@Teresa50 great long run
@quilteryoyo thanks, it really is a concern when you get to be a “mature” athlete
Great long run @martaindale
@HonuNui I’ve missed your great pictures
Wow @shanaber I didn't know all that about Rheumatic fever.
Races:
173 of 335 miles Pinhoti Trail Challenge done
234 of 248 miles of Space Race doneMother’s Day Virtual 5K – done
Retro Run Virtual 5K – done
Rona on the Run - Virtual for St. Jude benefit - done
Keep Moving Huntsville - at least one mile a day 1 - 31 May - done
The Big Run - June 3 - done
NEGU virtual run - June - Team NEGU helping support kids with cancer - done
Big Foot Wild Thangs Trail Race 5K/10K – June 20 on the trails…all together like a real race - done
Run 4 on the 4th – Virtual 4 miles on 4th of July - done
ISS Virtual 5K in July – done
Jackalope Trail Run 4 miler – done
Flora-Bama 600K - Virtual race from Huntsville AL to the Florida Alabama state line in Orange Beach – done
Scooby Doo Virtual 10K - done
Skunk Ape 5 miler August 1 trail race in person – done
Pirate Challenge – 10 weeks mile challenge June – August – done
Chupacabra 10K/HM – August 22 - done
Running of the Bulls Virtual 5K – 9/14 – 30/2020 - done
The Pinhoti Trail Challenge 335 miles virtual – 1 Sept to 31 Dec – 133 miles done
2020 Liberty Road Challenge WWII soldiers journey from St. Mere Eglisde to Bastogne, Belgium – charity virtual run for the WII museum in New Orleans 716 miles team event 4 July – September – our team has finished
Space Race 400K Challenge 12 weeks running 248.5 miles to the ISS – August to November – 194 miles done
Oak Barrel Half Marathon – October – running virtual5 -
10/1 – 5.23 miles
10/3 – 21.06 miles
10/5 – 6.08 miles
Goal – 125 miles
Good morning! It was a nice 45F when I headed out this morning. It was still dark and I could smell a skunk but I never did see it. My light did catch a dead snake in the road seconds before my foot would have landed on it. Thankfully (?), it was belly-up so it was white and my light picked up on it. Eeek! Other creatures I saw was a bunny rabbit, cows and my neighbor’s chocolate lab who didn’t even bother barking or getting up from where he was laying. His name is Colt so I called out a gentle hello to him. I have no fear of him biting me but he’s a big fella and he loves to lean and jump on you to be petted.
@shanaber – Wow, bedrest for an entire year when you are 14 years old. I imagine it would be hard at any age but for a young teenager it had to be tough. Congratulations on conquering and recovering. I hope that your PM adjusts to your body soon. I hope the CA fires are under control soon too. Hugs to Hobbes and I absolutely love the rocks!
@quilteryoyo – Glad you got an inhaler for your asthma. You are so strong playing tennis and running and taking care of your property. That has to be a good factor in your recovery process. You got this!
@katharmonic – I’m always afraid the kettlebell will go flying out of my hands!
@HonuNui – Love the snorkeling picture!
@Faebert – Hope things are looking up for you today.
Those trials are beautiful @marisap2010.
Thanks @skippygirlsmom! Enjoy your well-deserved rest day!
Has anyone else noticed that when they “like” a post on their mobile device that it gives 2 likes instead of 1?
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Hi, I'd like to join this one. I'm trying for 20 miles. I'm a new runner so I'm starting small. I've already done 2 miles since the 1st. I'll be going tomorrow. I'm hoping to hit a little over 2 miles.12
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October off to a great start with over 1 hour of exercise each day, 3 runs covering 19.7 miles and 2 rides for another 33.2 miles totalling 5 hours 26 minutes plus cool down and warm up walks on top. Eyes on the prize!! 😊
Like the advice @quilteryoyo and I will go for a longer run tomorrow.7 -
Beautiful trails @marisap2010
@Teresa502 I haven't noticed that, but I will try to see if it does that next time I'm on my phone.
Welcome @rebeccahetrick! This is a really fun and encouraging group.5 -
@Teresa502 Mine is just giving one"like."2
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October miles: 16.9
Space Race miles: 205.76
I took the weekend off because my body decided it needed to recuperate. I also caught up on my sadly forsaken housework! Back at it this morning with a 5.1 mile run in the cool temps. Ahhhh.
Please add me to the run across the world. Sounds fun! I haven't really had a running injury except for the spill I took last year and the resulting skinned knee that would make any 3rd grader jealous. It took months to heal properly because of the size and location. I kept breaking the scab and starting all over. Ugh.
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Yay! I’m finally off the mark, and only a little rain to contend with this morning. Managed 10K. Kind of scary as more than half of it was in pitch dark, street lighting around me isn’t so great and plenty of squelchy leaves underfoot made me a bit nervous of slipping. With heavy heart I am currently researching treadmills, that’s if roof repairs leave any spare change!! 😬
Forgot to answer the monthly question @quilteryoyo. Squeamish people may also want to look away from this one....
I think most of you know I had surgery back in December last year. Despite various other running stuff (some nasty falls, a persistent dodgy hamstring from a yoga injury of all things!) recovering from this operation is the hardest thing I’ve ever done. I had a double mastectomy with immediate reconstruction. So it was an incredibly invasive and brutal operation. I had under muscle reconstruction so it meant having my chest muscle cut and lifted from the chest wall. I had nearly 3 months off running and about 5 months no upper body work. My core still isn’t as good as it was and I can barely do full push ups when before I could do 20 or more in one go. But I haven’t given up. And I know from my Mum and my sister it would have been so much worse if I’d actually got cancer. I was so lucky to be able to have the surgery to prevent it. So even if I can’t do all I did before, I can still work to finding my new ‘best’. I have every faith that you will too @quilteryoyo
Amazing stories from others on here. But @rheddmobile yours just blew me away and has made me even more determined!
@kgirlhart I’m late but just wanted to say I’m sorry about the job and am hoping your new opportunity is even better. You deserve the best. X
October goal - 80m
October total - 6.2m
5/10: 6.2m
Jan - Sep: 625.4m8 -
rebeccahetrick wrote: »Hi, I'd like to join this one. I'm trying for 20 miles. I'm a new runner so I'm starting small. I've already done 2 miles since the 1st. I'll be going tomorrow. I'm hoping to hit a little over 2 miles.
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So @eleanorhawkins how's the toe?
@Tramboman your pain is still valid. The rest of us are just crazy.
I have had a couple of surgeries. Not really worth mentioning.
I had to skim a lot, but welcome to all of our newbies - you will not find a more supportive group!
So Saturday's run with Nick, Sophie's husband....
Well it was actually great to share the experience with him because he said he wanted to go but also I don't think I can do that all the time because on one hand I feel like it slowed me down a lot - lots of walking - lots of talking. Then, i couldn't breathe. Then, my knee started hurting really bad, but because of the way it hurts and where I am pretty sure it's my IT band again. He fell a lot. I had not considered that technical trails would be difficult for a novice runner. I am a jerk.
We actually had a great time and I'm glad we went and we'll probably do it again. But I don't think it's something I can do all the time because I run alone, exclusively. I am a loner and I like it that way. I just also happen to love my friends.
I ended last week with over 30 miles which is a huge taper down for me, which is also super wise because I have to do this super progressive build for the 100 miler in Indiana.
I'm very tired today. I'd honestly just like a nap.
Instead, I'll finish out the work day, do some PT, feed the kids, probably run. Bleh. Mondays are really not the greatest.
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@marisap2010 - what a beautiful place to run! I would love to have a cool and shady trail to run!
@Teresa502 - so glad you missed stepping on the snake and that he was dead! One of the guys I follow on Strava literally ran into a copper head, kicking it with his foot and not even realizing it until another runner pointed it out to him! Yikes! I don't use the app on my phone and on the website it definitely only gives one 'like'.
@faebert - I hadn't thought about your recovery from the surgery and coming back to running. I am so happy it was without incident! You are definitely so fortunate that that type of preventative measure is available when cancer is so prevalent in a family. I have another friend who also had the surgery after all the women in her family had breast cancer. She had to fight to find a doctor who would be willing to do it. At that time it wasn't widely available yet and definitely not in TX.
Welcome @rebeccahetrick- feel free to jump into our conversations and be sure to post your progress. We are here to cheer you on and offer advice if we can.
I went out for a run this morning but it ended up more walk than run because the air quality is so bad. My eyes were burning, lungs were burning and I was coughing. I had planned to go longer but cut it short and walked home. I did find more painted rocks though! 😊 I posted my pictures from yesterday on our Next-Door app and found out they were all painted and placed by an 11yo for her Girl Scout "Bronze" award. It is the highest award for the GS level she is at. With the project she wanted to bring hope and happiness to her community. I think it is pretty cool and also fun just to hunt them out as they aren't all obvious.Looks like we have a few more days of very hot weather before it cools down and dare I say it there is a chance of RAIN! But then it gets hot again...
Date..........Miles........Total
10/01.......5.26..........5.26
10/02.......0.00..........5.26
10/03.......4.08..........9.34
10/04.......5.66........15.00
10/05.......4.54........19.54
2020 Run the Year Team - 2020 R.I.O.T. (Running Is Our Therapy) 1282.97/1000 miles (running and walking)
2020 Planned and Completed Races
02/02/20 - Surf City Half Marathon
07/31/20 - ISS Virtual 10K (Late)
08/15-09/30 - eRace Racism (200 miles) 200+ miles completed.
09/21-09/27 - Womxn Run the Vote - 680 mile virtual relay
09/26/20 - Beat the Blerch 10K Virtual
ETA 10/03-11/03 - Race to the Polls Virtual Challenge Level III (80 Miles) - 19.54 completed, 11th place5 -
@Camaramandy648 the toe is ok, thanks for asking. I think it will probably end up coming off, it doesn't look like it's really attached underneath and there's a big hole under it but at least it isn't leaking or anything any more. I'm still slathering some antibiotic cream on at night more as a preventative measure than anything else. I remember the agony of the infection when it was ingrown in my teens that eventually led to it being removed and the roots at the sides killed... I will do ANYTHING to avoid that pain again. Seriously. I would rather give birth to another 9lb baby.
Glad the running with another experience wasn't too bad. I always run alone too, and though sometimes I think I would like someone to run with, it's my me-time and my therapy.
If you would like a nap, I would suggest you listen to your body and take a nap. You do so much, you might benefit from giving yourself permission to be 'lazy' every now and then?
I've lost track of when and what I've posted. My body is still recovering from Saturday's virtual race. I really did push myself hard, and I'm feeling it. I should probably follow my own advice and take some real rest, but mentally I just can't at the moment. The situation with my father has be anxious and uneasy and keeping active is the way I'm coping. They're not operating until the 28th, and we won't know how bad it is or what else they're going to do until after that. He's home to wait, and not coping well at all. He goes from almost normal sounding, to scared, to gloomy and sure he's going to die, to confused and not understanding things, all within a 3 or 4 minute conversation. So hard not to be there. Even harder when we've never really been good at talking to each other.
Yeah, tomorrow ought to be a rest day, not gonna happen.
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